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12:02 AM
Sure hope you (someone) played that loudly. It is both music and poetry. Guess that equals song.
Doesn't happen by accident.
It's a song superficially about chess.
And then it churns into notes and chords beyond description.
(Yes, i know they have descriptions. I have the sheet music. But all that is approximate.)
It was quite liberating to find out that what's written are hints, not blueprints. Changed the way i arranged.
Instead of trying to control every note, i began to paint landscapes where players could explore.
Those landscapes are what i saw all along. I ignorantly thought they had to be lineariszed. For a while. Now i spread multilane freeways, full of choices.
Some players stick to a lane while others cross all lines.
Nothing nothing but but yes yes yes from now on:
(By the way, boboquack, i try to play every song here on keyboard. Always worth a try.)
 
12:39 AM
I'm defending in Contact right now
 
12:49 AM
Why do my friends even bother sneaking doses on me? Because they're my friends. Outwardly who'd notice the difference? I'm bizarre by nature. Inwardly, though, it gives angles like a kaleidoscope, and i'm a sponge.
Not Yes, but extemely psychedelic:
 
1:09 AM
Back to Yes:
 
1:22 AM
Don't make me @boboquack. And there i did. ^ that song contains every element.
 
Sid
1:34 AM
Okay. Time for a much bigger hint for the C4 now.
HINT:Unending is used on a synonym of fire.
 
1:47 AM
fire = s[HOO]t (no I am not saying this is the answer)
 
I don't really see how that works. Where's the def?
 
You're right
We already knew (strongly suspected) the definition was either Watch or Watch and Order. An earlier hint implies that Order is either O, or "alphabetize", or possibly something else -- but probably not part of the definition
So we need a 3-letter word for "Watch". I have "see", "eye", "spy", maybe "sit"?
 
order as an anagrind?
 
None of those have an O. @micsthepick no
"HINT: Order is not an anagrind. However, I have seen (i think)only one other clue in which order is used in the same way as used in this clue "
I looked through the past clues to see how they've been used, and there are not many choices.
 
1:56 AM
Oh I think I know what order does then
50% sure
 
@Wen1now spill.
 
Is this a team effort?
But I'm sure it's already been mentioned
 
@micsthepick From what I saw, it was probably "O" or "alphabetize", as I said. If you look through the past hints, there are only a few that use "order" in any form.
 
is contact still on?
 
I'm switching to google
 
1:57 AM
if you go defend, I think so
 
2:11 AM
I cannot find anything for Watch. I'm done :(
 
2:28 AM
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Q: What will replace the question mark?

user43533Please find out what word should replace the question mark. apple----------garlic---------- amla pointed gourd----------?----------radish guava---------pineapple----------watermelon

 
3:17 AM
If order means alphabetize, then watch has to be 3 letters in alphabetical order
But I looked for a synonym like that and didn't find it
 
3:29 AM
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Q: Longest path in a rotating maze

Br0therBrighamThis maze was inspired by the Deusovi Honeypot . The rules of this maze are simple. The solid colored triangles inside the bigger triangles are shrunken replicas of the bigger triangles of there same color. and don't forget to rotate them 30 degrees clockwise for each level in you go. The yell...

 
3:44 AM
@Sid, what about PRY (as in probe or scrutinise, which is kind of watch-ish) and alphabetise (order) PYRe (unending fire-ish)
 
@Alconja Nice
 
4:02 AM
That seems pretty likely to be the answer. But Watch!=Pry IMO. -1 from me
 
Yeah, it's definitely tenuous... but it was the best I could find out of a long list of tenuous watch synonyms
 
 
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5:07 AM
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Q: Soliloquy of a Naval Gazer

mrfishYou fall asleep with a twinge of fear somewhere unshakeable in your mind. Hours later, you awake from turbulent dreams to find your bedroom unchanged save a note speared to your door with a deli sandwich sword. As you read it, comprehension dawns with the sun. While you slept, puzzle pirates b...

 
Sid
5:21 AM
@Alconja Bingo!
(Pry is more like watch closely but I figured Watch was findable as a synonym of PRY. At least in some random sites on the internet)
 
5:55 AM
I guess it's acceptable... but I've always thought of it as PRY -> watch TOO closely
 
I would've said that pry is an "active" thing, as opposed to watch being "passive". But it is still listed as a synonym in some places (hence I found it), so it's not outright wrong, just a little obtuse.
Glad to get it though... just need to write a new one now (spent all my CC efforts in my last puzzle)
 
Just take one from your last puzzle. I'm sure nobody would notice...
 
6:11 AM
CCCC: Shaky start following scam's opposition (8)
 
6:26 AM
@Wen1now I would notice.
 
I've got it
@Alconja CON (scam, fraud)+TRAST (shaky start) = opposition ?
@Deusovi I still have no idea about either of the two "favorite clues" you shared the other day
 
7 - (6 - 9) = 10, maybe? (4)

EVEN (from SEVEN - (SIX - IX))
000-ish (5)

O+VOID
 
ok, the first one is pretty great. The second one: is that a further clue, for "ellipse" or something? How is that (7)?
 
@Deusovi Oh. I was hoping you weren't here (I actually did think about you when I wrote the comment)
 
meant to be 5, I can't count
(was thinking about clue length in characters)
@Wen1now I'm always here. :P
5
 
Sid
6:38 AM
000-ish blew my mind when I first saw that. I would have refused to believe it was ever possible if I hadn't seen it.
 
@Wen1now he knows when you're awake...
 
I think it's the best clue/answer ratio we've gotten? Other than the null clue, which is cheating.
 
@Deusovi You did correctly put 5 when you told me the clue earlier, but I had no idea.
 
Best = lowest I assume
 
yeah
 
6:42 AM
@EricTressler yep. Well done.
@Deusovi my "Open/close (10)" was 1:1
 
CCCC: City with famous building listing (4)
 
Sounds like a cryptic def for PISA
 
Is PISA a city?
 
It is - I didn't think it would hold up for long, but I wanted to use it anyway.
 
:( I even thought of PISA and changed my hat to match (I'm joking about the hat part but not the PISA part)
@Deusovi, do you have any tips on writing a good meta
 
6:59 AM
Make it thematic somehow, both with the answer and the extraction method. (The former may not be possible if you're working it into some larger structure, but the latter still should be.) For both of them, bad puns are always great to use.

For instance, an MIT meta had you catching a "criminal mastermind", and the answers had you literally playing a game of Mastermind with the answers. Another one had you looking for a way to stop a gelatinous cube (from D&D) from reforming after you cut it into two smaller ones, and the answer was FERMAT'S LOST SERUM.
 
7:11 AM
(half awake from the peanut gallery: Deusovi, you make making it look easy look easy.)
@EricTressler , many others didn't think that tower would hold up long either.
It's actually banana shaped. Took almost 100 years to build it so wrong.
(I should return to fully asleep and stop sleeptyping.)
 
If you're doing a pure meta (with no other content besides answer words) then it'll probably be harder to crack. The trick should be apparent from the words somehow.

A shell meta (one with some other content) is usually easier, but you can be more creative with your methods of extraction.

Either way, flavortext often helps make it easier. If your meta is particularly difficult to figure out (or even if it isn't!), you may want to use flavortext to hide a hint. for instance, a meta involving binary somehow may say something like "you're in a bit of trouble". One involving Braille might say
@lauir (Thank you!)
 
I should probably go to bed soon too.
 
"I dream about you, even in my sleep."
. . . a little birdie told me my ideal woman will pick through the door sometime soon . . . seems everyone i know is a lockpick . . . she had a key for years and gave it away . . .
. . . that ideal lockpick and i first met when were nine.
. . . she's, again, the only person who beats me at cards. And that's not even what i love about her.
. . . when we met for the third time, decades later and decades ago, i saw what i'd been looking for so many other places.
. . . she asks why i close my eyes. "Are you asleep or fantasizing?"
. . . "Yes."
. . . and then, "close your eyes too and just feel the difference."
. . . that recently rediscovered human language spoke loudly then
. . . that language of finger tips.
. . . even the feral feline seems to understand it. Soon as i begin to twiddle for whatever reason, he alerts.
 
7:41 AM
CCCC: Nuts occasionally lead to this lunatic recalling erotica (8, 8)
 
ALLERGIC REACTION*
 
Wow!
 
wow
What helped is that each word is anagrammed separately
 
no, the n moves
 
oh. Almost separately then.
 
7:50 AM
@Sp3000 , you should pick my lock too sometime. Bring a friendeusovi for protection.
So many doors, which lock should i pick?
 
Q: How do you pick your nose in public without disgusting everyone?

A: Just before rhinoplasty.
 
! "God picks our enemies. Thank god we can pick our own noses."
 
(whoops, clue didn't work. am dumb, give me a sec)
 
CCCC: Nets occasionally lead to this chef who brakes (12)
(@Sp3000 :D )
 
8:02 AM
Oh boy, well played
 
what can I say, I like riffing off other people's clues
 
I'm very impressed by how well you do so - rift sundered still amuses me
 
yeah, that one was a nice find (it amused me how I noticed that instantly)
 
@Deusovi I was thinking about trying to solve the clue, but then I notice "(12)", i can forget it x)
 
8:15 AM
Don't worry, it's not as hard as it looks.
 
But harder than talcum.
 
It's looks like a ddef, and if it is, it's really not for me
talcum is hard ? @lauir
 
Hardly. It was a spurious comment.
 
A ddef &lit would be cool. Do we have some in the archive?
 
Nope, it's 1 on the Mohs hardness scale.
@JohnDvorak "Spirit in a glass! (6,4)"
 
8:18 AM
Was that in the chain? Nice.
 
I was going to say (incoming one of Deusovi's favourites) but I was too slow
 
@Sp3000 did you know which one it was gonna be, or was it just a general "welp here goes Deusovi again"?
 
@Deusovi (6,3) would be "liquor jug"
 
I only recall one (namely that one) -- was there another?
 
Nope, don't believe so.
I double-checked the archive. Searched for &lit, and that was the only double def I could find
@lauir It could be! But the clue says "spirit in a glass", not "glass containing a spirit".
 
8:22 AM
And what is &lit ?
 
"and literally so" - it's a type of cryptic clue where the entire clue is both definition and wordplay.
 
It's when a clue is so good it's "lit"
 
I need sunscreen. (And a gag order.)
 
For instance, "Terribly evil! (4)" --> VILE*, or "Russia, reorganized without last remnants of Nikolai and Alexandra! (4)" --> USSR*(-i,a)
 
OK i see, combine wordplay and definition and then you got a &lit
 
8:27 AM
yup. it's a type of clue that's very difficult to pull off
 
and then i'm lost :D
 
because there has to be a double meaning, and both interpretations have to lead you to the same answer - one through wordplay, the other as a regular definition
 
"occasionally" has 12 letters, but who's counting . . .
 
*very difficult to pull off well stares at traitorous semi-&lits and &lits with dubious defs
 
@Sp3000 semi-&lits are the worst. they're a mark of either not trying enough or of trying to force something that clearly won't work, and better thrown away than published proudly
 
8:30 AM
Now i need an entire sunhat. It's so bright here.
And my skin is so sensitive, especially around the eyes and ears.
 
(also, y'know, for solvability purposes, they don't work well at all)
 
Time out for music:
(Just to reinforce an important consideration even less related, i sure wish that backyard visitor didn't fade into the carpet so completely. It's enough that he jumps onto the keyboard and takes the blame for things i don't admit. But he just happens to match the shade and shag of the rug so much that i fear a false step will make that match permanent. So far so good, but maybe i need a different carpet or backyard.)
(Also in the meanwhile that carpet should be beginning to harbr a grudge. The cat in question has done all kinds of incriminated damage, often in the spirit of generosity. Here, carpet, have some gak. Or a fresh kill. Or just lie still while i try to tunnel through you and expose some up-pointing tacks.)
("Gak" up there means puke, not whatever else the internet links first. I know the other meaning too, and the phrase "carpet farm," but my problems lie elsewhere. At my feet, at the moment, that little sleeper reminds me of me more and more.)
 
9:04 AM
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Q: Test case for Greet Bot

BassSince I think I was maybe a bit mean to the mods in my previous question, I decided that maybe I could pay them back by creating an automaton that helps them in their work, thus leaving them more time to spawn camp the newest questions page. So I programmed a Greeting Bot. When started, it goes ...

 
@Sphinx sigh
 
Close to nearly getting honeypotted
 
Honeypot jokes were funny the first time, going through with it and creating what's effectively a spam post isn't as amusing :/ (or maybe I just lack humour)
 
Yeah, I thought the first one was amusing because it was an actual puzzle. This one is not. (If it were posted without the "theming" it would be closed as a math question.)
 
@Deusovi , I agree. The upfront web site isn't the place for creative protest, unless well disguised as a true puzzle.
This here is the place for that kind of creativity.
 
9:13 AM
I have no problems with creative protest in the form of a puzzle, but that was neither protest nor a puzzle.
(And I certainly hope that we haven't done anything protest-worthy.)
 
@Deusovi , (The juggernaut provides more protest material than we can keep up with.)
(This place is a respite.)
 
Nah, you haven't done anything protest-worthy
And I agree with you on posting only puzzles
 
Favrite word, sligthly misdefined:
Adjective: escondido m (feminine singular escondida, masculine plural escondidos, feminine plural escondidas, comparable)
  1. hidden
  2. escondido (feminine singular escondida, masculine plural escondidos, feminine plural escondidas)
  3. hidden
Verb: escondido
  1. Past participle of esconder....
The way i learned it included the idea of shelter, not just hideyness.
 
Which language is this?
 
Spanish?
 
9:22 AM
Some people here are so talented
 
Speak for yourself!
I thought i was the dullest crayon, even though people stopped me in the halls to ask, "really, you did that?"
 
@Wen1now (Then I suggest voting too, to signal that I'm not alone in this decision. :P )
 
Learn to downvote! Signed, 1000:1 ratio.
 
I thought voting on already closed questions was.. looked down on
 
No, I don't think so. Maybe if they've already been heavily downvoted, but there are certainly exceptions to the rule "don't vote on closed posts" (and I feel that this is an exception. If you disagree, that's fine - I don't want to force your vote or anything)
 
9:35 AM
Side note although that last strip was aimed elsewhere. @Deusovi, you are a true whisker. That's a compliment and a dare.
 
@lauir I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, but thanks.
 
You reach out in all directions before other senses.
Many train accidents could be avoided if that ability were put on rails.
 
Thank you! Your compliments are always so poetic (and it's a shame that I can't understand them sometimes).
 
(you understand the intent)
 
(And sometimes that's all that's necessary! When words fail, your tone still comes across loud and clear.)
 
9:39 AM
I follow whiskers everywhere! They reveal just where is safe to travel.
@Deusovi , indeed indeed, when words fail everything else becomes clear
Signed, word lover.
Sometimes a person tricks me into being their whiskers. I look over the precipice and ask, "really?" And then answer, "guess it's my turn this time."
Sometimes whiskers get singed. Luckily my (companion whiskers) haven't.
And luckily my (own) heal.
(Tied for second favrite word, right there with "number": "singer.")
English is as good as an unattended skate park.
There should be guardrails and crashpads everywhere . . . where they ain't.
I should give blood on purpose sometime. My heros do, while i go out and give blood on pavement.
. . . talk about divergence. Don't get me going. (And just try to stop this.)
. . . nothing so bizarre as someone pathologically shy infected by the gift of gab.
. . . time for a meal, to put something else into my mouth other than another foot.
While the microwave and refrigerator machines grind, found a very nicely pictured (repeat otherwise) video:
 
10:24 AM
^ "pictured" = "depicted" up there.
^ one of these days i'll Learn english.
Until then it's panglish.
"Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else get your way."
"I'll eat my words after you regurgitate them."
"I'll swallow my tongue just as soon as it passes my jaw."
Tied for best song about words ever (to be reposted at least twice a year):
"No one notices. Think i'll dye my hair blue."
^ by the way, ignore the chintzy visuals. The piece itself, including its lyrics, is brilliant.
"It's like the feeling at the end of the page, and you realisze you don't know what you just read."
I hope you're safely asleep now, Deusovi, but until i looked up and found otherwise, your icon reminded me of this:
 
10:54 AM
um, Deus is back? ...oh no :( :p
wait, how many CCCCs exist
 
One for each C.
 
so...which one is to be answered currectly?
usually there's only one CCCC there
 
This might be the latest:
3 hours ago, by Deusovi
CCCC: Nets occasionally lead to this chef who brakes (12)
 
so...shouldn't we unstar the others, they're confusing
 
We would if we could.
 
11:02 AM
waits for Deus to clear stars out of nowhere
 
! language
 
Perhaps ping him?
 
you probably know what I'm referring to :p
@lauir huh
 
I don't :(
I am so slow aren't I
 
One guess is 9 billion names of God. Another guess isn't fit for prime time.
 
11:04 AM
well, remember? :D
 
Can anyone review my puzzle?
 
Huh it actually happened
That's magical
 
@EriktheOutgolfer , now i remember, thank you. Slept through it the first time around.
 
that's for w1n :p
 
@SohaFarhinPine Oh, a puzzle. Sure (as in yes, I'm sure we/I can review it)
 
11:10 AM
@Wen1now Do you have the power to create a private chatroom?
 
Just keep in mind, I'm no puzzle genius
 
No prob
 
I think only mods can create private rooms
 
I'm afraid only mods have that power and it's currently only for moderation purposes around here?
 
11:13 AM
@SohaFarhinPine Would a public room be fine? If you're going to post it here (On PSE), I'm sure it won't matter much
 
@Wen1now that, if you add an appropriate description then getting spoiled is the fault of whoever joins
 
And if a peeper spoils it, a @flag can solve that side problem.
 
well, I'd say something like that doesn't adhere to "be nice"
since it's at the expense of others who might have wanted to solve it themselves, not have it spoiled in front of them
 
I can't see how to do a warning with a low word count
 
link?
 
11:18 AM
SPOILER WARNING: [...]
 
Perhaps 'Puzzle testing: Entering = No solving final puzzle'
 
@Wen1now well, except that you can also "enter" in "stealth mode" by looking at the transcript and refreshing it
 
I spoiled my next pose, in the form of a hint to a previous pose. Just one reason i've cooled it lately.
 
I'd recommend some off-site tool for that purpose
 
Eh. I'm fairly certain >=90% of puzzlers have integrity
And I'm pretty sure not many new people even discover the chat function

 [Spoiler alert] Puzzle testing

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^@SohaFarhinPine that one
 
11:22 AM
It also brings up the question of what anyone wants to accomplish with a P. Sometimes i just want to publish art, and each S is part of it. And i can't wait.
Other times i want to leave an open face that'll never be scaled.
Pure art:
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A: Two many rainbows?

lauirCommunity gallery of almost-answers, begun from comments— feel free to add. Moonbow that stops mid-air https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lunar_Rainbow_3_-_ORION_L_-_Victoria_Falls_-_Calvin_Bradshaw_3.jpg Carrousel du Louvre, Paris https://i0.wp.com/www.sistavoyage.com/wp-content/uploa...

And one that seems destined to camp alone:
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Q: Day and night of the two timers

lauir            Make a non - 24 - hour day /  night cycle            with the most daylight and fewest pieces Specifically, devise schedules and an arrangement for two electromechanical 24 - hour light timers to control the flow of power from an outlet to a light bulb. The challenge is to obtain t...

 
CW issues
 
^Can anybody else see something slightly fishy about that
 
I smell funny.
@lauir , that one has a marvlously concise solution that takes a few galactic rotations to find and will never be worth the points. I'd bounty it for a king's ransom, but there seems to be a limit below that.
(Thought the brownies would be wearing off by now. Still in wonderland it seems. Thanks, friends, or cumulative concussions. Recalibrating on the fly.)
(My friendly lockpicks drop by and leave food in the refrigerator. I used to be afraid to eat anything.)
(Then i stopped driving. Now i'll eat anything and go anywhere (on foot).)
(Including here. Just barely afar the arm of law.)
And one meant as both art and to be solved. Wound up neither:
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Q: Semiminibino...hologram

lauir      ☆   Be the first to make your own semiminibinononohohohologram   ☆ “  !  ” you interject?   Might not be quite as supercalifragilisticexpialidocious as it sounds, though. What could look like a...

But it just might have played a role in my all-time favrite puzzle i wished i'd come up with:
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Q: A simple nonogram

SilenusSolve the nonogram.                   (Click for a larger version.)

I hope this comes across:
There are other puzzles i admire, and have posted tributes to, but that one feels like marrow to me.
 
11:53 AM
That is cool
 
1!
 
Sid
I think there was a private room for SFP. I don't get where it is anymore... which probably means it was frozen or something
 
There was well-known-for-a-time annex once.
 
Yess, it wass frozen
SSorry. My 'ess' button iss broken sso I have to press the double 'ess' insstead
 
My giggle button just got stuck too.
 
12:05 PM
I need more hatssssssssssss
 
Where you gonna wear 'em?
 
On my profile pic
 
Or you gonna keycap your S with 'em?
 
Actually. I think getting a new hat could replace my 'ess' key
Can you get thiss on your own quesstion?
 
If you want to go SEDE-ways, ride along.
 
12:08 PM
You know, I nearly got thiss on here
+7 ansswer with no votess on quesstion or ansswer
 
Those weren't my no-votes. I see fingerprints everywhere.
 
@Wen1now I'm here.
 
I mean the comment :( Jusst one comment

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^Join that one for puzzle tessting
 
Just so everyone knows, it's beautiful:
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A: Try to design a uniquely solvable masyu

Wen1now8x8 has been solved Give it a go! Yes, I know what shape that makes >:)

 
:) Glad you think sso. I wass really proud of that. But the 7x7 casse iss MUCH better! Less ssymetrically aessthetic, but... better
 
12:16 PM
The 7x7 cases look more organic, that's for sure.
But your 8x8 includes that feel and creates a dynamo as well.
 
@Wen1now I think sso, yess
 
The dynamo being a wheel that keeps asking, "what other way can pearls(?) be separated by at least 2 spaces and almost line up?"
 
I feel like that hat is promoting low-quality an'erss
 
I feel like that hat is promoting low-quality an'wer'
 
12:20 PM
'is'
 
:( I began to think that I could avoid that key entirely
 
It'ss indeed difficult to remember to alwayss double one letterreerr.
 
!!
 
Actually would it be better if I changed to the 'e' key? It may be too cliched/overdone though
 
My e key actually broke a couple times
It mad for som amusing mssags.
 
12:23 PM
(Really enjoying this. Almost every keyboard i've had has turned and forced a wrestle-down.)
 
But I actually have to return to just lurking for a bit now, sorry. Latr.
 
Your essence is always f(e)lt, Mithrandr.
(Don't make me edit "evanescence.")
 
I think that to avoid having to apply that button could [be the] point. Darn.
 
What's that term for prose that avoids a letter? Too lazy and busy making food too look it up.
 
poem? I dunno
 
12:36 PM
Those include two of my favrite words "poem" and "dunno"!
But there's another word. Someone (not) here has it on the tips of their fingers and tongue.
There:
A lipogram (from Ancient Greek: λειπογράμματος, leipográmmatos, "leaving out a letter") is a kind of constrained writing or word game consisting of writing paragraphs or longer works in which a particular letter or group of letters is avoided—usually a common vowel, and frequently E, the most common letter in the English language. Larousse defines a lipogram as a "literary work in which one compels oneself strictly to exclude one or several letters of the alphabet". Extended Ancient Greek texts avoiding the letter sigma are the earliest examples of lipograms. Writing a lipogram may be a trivial...
 
@Mithrandir Can you mention me in CSR.
Consulation Room?
 
Who needslettersssanyway?Alliwantisaspacebar.
 
@SohaFarhinPine nope - that needs a Puzzling.SE mod now, because it's a private room and has been frozen.
Perhaps @GarethMcCaughan would be willing to help.
 
Rats/humans!, I tried to get into a space bar but they checked for RUFOIDs. Came up one letter short and went home alone.
^ go-to piece, protocol regardless
Nothing nothing but but . . .
(give it a minute or two, or just point ahead)
 
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