The Sphinx's Lair

Saiid

15:00

that happens to me a lot too lol

I think I'm going to change my name sometime

Beastly Gerbil

You do so in 'Edit profile and settings'

Saiid

I found a better solution to my problem

Pentatonix mix on youtube

no need for so many tabs

Beastly Gerbil

new hat

It will

Appear

Soon

Saiid

Never

Jim

For the CCCC is there something where "turned" and "urn" (synonym for jar) can be something?

IAmInPLS

15:03

@BeastlyGerbil For what?

Beastly Gerbil

Search you must

IAmInPLS

Oh yeah

Saiid

@Jim URN!!!! muahahaha

Beastly Gerbil

Woo

it

loaded

Look <-

IAmInPLS

So you meant "appear soon it will"

Saiid

15:04

No <-

Beastly Gerbil

:P

IAmInPLS

@Jim I don't think so

Jim

Ok, just was the first thing that popped into my head so I typed it

IAmInPLS

@Jim In general, it indicates a reversal

Jim

Under my rule I'd say anything when solving

I figured but I like to explore coincidences

IAmInPLS

15:06

And you're right to do so

Saiid

hmm

well

to wait

for lag

now

dcfyj

Why are we typing super short sentence fragments instead of whole sentences?

Display name

So the profile pic gets bigger, probably.

Saiid

Well

I'm waiting for the lag to catch up

lol

dcfyj

It's kind of annoying honestly

What lag?

Saiid

15:08

lol

IAmInPLS

Still better than having removed everywhere :-)

dcfyj

True, it's still legible at least

Saiid

lol

Techidiot

@GentlePurpleRain- I screwed it up. :(

IAmInPLS

TrojanByAccident?

Saiid

15:09

lol

dcfyj

@Techidiot GPR has it and the enumeration is (7)?

Display name

He wants to hide the fact that he's the bot of Sid.

Techidiot

Yes, I made it for Gujrat and missed an "a" Too bad

@GentlePurpleRain Go for the new CCCC

IAmInPLS

Ah, damn

dcfyj

@IAmInPLS ToBeAnnounced? :P

Techidiot

15:10

Sorry, apologies!

IAmInPLS

@dcfyj Saiid's new name

Display name

KangarooByAccident

dcfyj

:34286814 Saiid, we had enough of that mess with ak, we don't need you to start that up...

Saiid

Start what up?

dcfyj

(removed)

The best part is, I could delete that message and it would break nothing!

Saiid

15:12

¿(removed)?

Also, @Saiid doesn't mention me anymore

Jim

@BeastlyGerbil finally at the office. Get to look at your puzzle now.

dcfyj

At work? Time to solve puzzles instead of working :P

Saiid

^^

Beastly Gerbil

@Jim I had a look at your but the hex codes didn't decode to anything as far as I could tell. I tried hexadecimal and ASCII.

Jim

@BeastlyGerbil Good, it's working.

Beastly Gerbil

15:17

Well I'm off now. @Jim I hope you have good luck solving my puzzle

IAmInPLS

@BeastlyGerbil Cya

Jim

@BeastlyGerbil I'm on it now. Will report back. No CCCC to distract me (nor any real work to speak of today)

Saiid

@Jim Lucky. I've got 20 assignments due by midnight

Sconibulus

twenty?

dcfyj

@Saiid Have you been procrastinating? :P

IAmInPLS

15:23

At this point, this is not procrastination anymore

Saiid

"no"

IAmInPLS

This is dedication to not doing assignments !

dcfyj

@IAmInPLS Sure it is, He has stuff due and hasn't been doing it.

Jim

@Saiid Luckily I've put myself in a really good position :)

dcfyj

@Saiid "no"?

Why the quotes?

Sid

15:26

Guten abend people...

Display name

*Abend :)

dcfyj

@Sid I see this and think Gluten lol

Sid

@Displayname The capital letter is important?

TrojanByAccident

@dcfyj I 'haven\'t' been procrastinating

Display name

@Sid Yes, all nouns have to be capitalized. (no matter where they are in a sentence)

TrojanByAccident

15:31

A car goes around abend

dcfyj

@Sid Yes, German is weird like that.

Beastly Gerbil

Past participles and auxiliary verbs are the most annoying though

dcfyj

@BeastlyGerbil I thought you said you left...?

Beastly Gerbil

I'm about to, sneaking on for a quick few minutes ;)

IAmInPLS

He did

dcfyj

15:34

Ah

Sid

@BeastlyGerbil Is that an "U" in the link in your puzzle?

Beastly Gerbil

?

In the link to my puzzle... Where?

Sid

Tom this risk.... The things written above it..

Beastly Gerbil

In the picture above?

Sid

Nvm... It's L and J. Got it...

Beastly Gerbil

15:37

@Sid here you go

Sconibulus

I just posted a dumb riddle

race to solve it!

Sid

Literally speaking, your riddle actually has "we".

Sconibulus

...yes it does

Beastly Gerbil

I think the answer is literally 'one' but not sure

IAmInPLS

Was thinking about the letters o,n,e as well

Sphinx

15:40

0

Q: One for All, and All for One

We three are one For ear or tongue Yet not for eye nor hand Of our good three But one lacks three As this riddle lacks we

riddle

IAmInPLS

Hey, you're faster and faster @Sphinx

Sconibulus

I wish there was a way to lock a message in a box to prove I thought of it immediately but not actually say it until later :)

TrojanByAccident

There is

IAmInPLS

@Sconibulus what do you mean?

Sconibulus

I mean I have something incredibly punny to say but it's also a huge hint, so I can't say it :)

TrojanByAccident

15:42

There is

Encrypt it, post the ciphercode, then release the decrypter later

Beastly Gerbil

^

better yet, encrypt it with the answer, so when you've solved it you will know its right and get the pun as an award

Sconibulus

eh, sure

pazeucnnsawzynwzdh

TrojanByAccident

lol

now to break that cipher

Sconibulus

please don't try to work backwards from that :)

TrojanByAccident

unless it's just pure encryption

in which case I won't even try

I want to make a puzzle that makes you download a file that's actually malicious and destroys your computer, but I can't think of a way not to get caught

Display name

15:48

@TrojanByAccident Great idea.

@Sconibulus I hope it's not a One-Time-Pad, because than you could just fabricate something later.

GentlePurpleRain

@BeastlyGerbil Everyone thinks it has something to do with Prince, but I was just looking for a random assortment of words to use that wouldn't conflict with other usernames. Kind of like "correct horse battery staple".

Sconibulus

nah, I encoded it with an answer to the puzzle

vigenere style

Display name

Which puzzle are we even talking about?

GentlePurpleRain

CCCC: Infirm lions running back and forth (6, 7) (a1z26 sum for confirmation: 134)

TrojanByAccident

That one->

Infirm = soft, runninG back? and 4th?

or maybe it's running back anD fortH

GentlePurpleRain

15:51

@TrojanByAccident That doesn't sound like a solution...

TrojanByAccident

@GentlePurpleRain Is that a hint?

IAmInPLS

Nice riddle @Sconibulus :-)

GentlePurpleRain

No. I just meant you didn't provide a phrase for the solution.

TrojanByAccident

Oh, I know

I'm 99% sure that infirm will be the def

Sconibulus

@Sconibulus "well you're half right"

TrojanByAccident

15:53

@Sconibulus Another hint?

Display name

twotwotwotwotwotwo, for everyone lazy

TrojanByAccident

well = pit, you are(UR) half riGHT

scon's word is URGHT

IAmInPLS

@Displayname wot wot wot?

Ok, my turn to post a puzzle

Sconibulus

@Displayname or, you know, just 'two'

Sid

Why is it that when I post a puzzle I like, I get far less upvotes than the one which I don't like?

TrojanByAccident

15:56

Because

IAmInPLS

I'm off by the way. Don't forget that Santa Claus needs to bring me a Guru Badge.

TrojanByAccident

I said so

Matt

man, you guys and your cryptic clues. I had no idea they existed till I started hanging around here. I read the wikipedia page on them, and I find them fascinating, but utterly confusing nonetheless

TrojanByAccident

@Matt Excuse me, you forgot to give a word length for your clue

Matt

how do you know where to separate the definition from the wordplay?

Sconibulus

15:58

I hadn't really heard of them either until the CCCC started

Display name

> There may be a word or phrase such as "or", "is", "and", "to be" indicating where the split is between definition and wordplay, but there often is not. The solver must figure out the location on their own.

Sconibulus

you usually don't until it's solved, unless something looks very definitionish

Matt

Oh. well then

with the latest clue, infirm clues anagram to me

TrojanByAccident

@Matt Interesting.

GentlePurpleRain

@Matt (and @Jim if you're interested), you might want to look at Deusovi's excellent Cryptic Clue Guide.

Matt

16:01

but (6, 7) really discourages that

Jim

@GentlePurpleRain I've read it a couple times, but coming to know it is a process

GentlePurpleRain

I hear you.

Sphinx

0

Q: Two brothers, two watches

Two brothers, Jack and Joe, were born in May. One was born in 1932, and the other, a year later. Each brother owned a watch, which was previously possessed by their father. Considering their age, the watches worked pretty well. Nonetheless, one watch gained ten seconds per hour, while the other...

logical-deduction time

GentlePurpleRain

It took me a long time to get the hang of these clues.

Jim

Yup, which is why I'm here...to learn

GentlePurpleRain

16:02

I think the only way to get good at them is lots of practice.

Jim

If it's not uncomfortable, I probably don't like it

Sconibulus

forth could probably be 'fourth' in wordplay, but could it be in definition?

TrojanByAccident

Hmm

No, I don't think so

Sid

Why can't lions be the def? Lions could easily mean "animals"..

Maybe not..

Matt

I got a cryptic crossword app, but in my first puzzle, I was only able to solve three clues

TrojanByAccident

16:05

@Sid It's not at the end

Sconibulus

I want to take 'lions running back' to be one thing for some reason

but I don't know enough about football

Matt

Theo Riddick

Jim

Theo Riddick is the Lions

yeah

which I liked because of "The o"

Sconibulus

don't teams have like ten of them?

Matt

not more than a few

Jim

16:08

kinda sorta but not really

Matt

it would be uncommon for more than 3 different running backs to play

Sconibulus

in a game or a season?

Matt

there are other positions that might see handoffs, fullback, even quarterback

still, it's usually clear who the starting running back is

Jim

@Matt agreed

Matt

"the o" doesn't help because (6, 7)

Jim

16:10

agreed

Matt

unless ... theory, which can be infirm is 6

but I fear I am stretching too far

Jim

I'm awful at these, so I'll be on my way :)

Matt

I'm no better

TrojanByAccident

@Matt Generally, infirm things can be stretched :)

Matt

also generally, the word "theory" is followed by the word "of", so again, I think I'm off the mark

Jim

16:14

runningback can be RB, but i don't know how that'll help either

TrojanByAccident

Hey, I've got a question. Who would be interested in having a separate room specifically for Cryptic Clues and such?

I'm going to assume that means 'sure, I'd use it'

Display name

For me it means the opposite.

TrojanByAccident

lol

well for anyone that wants

Sconibulus

what was it, three rep-caps for a hat?

I'm about 30 away from #1 if so

Matt

three rep caps in 15 days on 3 different sites iirc

unless 3 consecutive rep caps on one site is a thing

TrojanByAccident

16:23

nah

it's just 3 rep caps total

Sconibulus

oh, it takes three sites? probably won't happen

TrojanByAccident

what site doesn't matter

Matt

well, then I stand corrected

@Sconibulus how about a hint on your music box?

GentlePurpleRain

@TrojanByAccident Are you suggesting this because you don't like the cryptic clues clogging up the Sphinx's Lair? Or just because you want a place to be able to discuss them in more depth?

TrojanByAccident

Both

Sconibulus

16:26

I added a little something this morning

TrojanByAccident

However, it does get rather confusing when we have some people spouting off stuff for the CCCC, and others on a completely different track, discussing a new puzzle

GentlePurpleRain

It might be a good idea to move the cryptic clues to a separate room. They do occupy a lot of the discussion here. It doesn't bother me, because I enjoy them, but others might not appreciate it.

@TrojanByAccident Why don't you suggest it on Puzzling Meta, and see how much support it has.

Matt

I don't mind it here. I enjoy seeing the solutions go by

TrojanByAccident

@GentlePurpleRain Eheh.. about that...

GentlePurpleRain

@Matt, but you could easily see them in another room, too?

Matt

16:29

I could

Jim

CCCCs feel like a way to keep conversation going in here at times when there's not

But I also love chaos

Sconibulus

I personally don't often feel confused about that, I think the CCCCs have noticably increased the amount of activity in this room though, and I don't think that's a bad thing

Matt

but I am less likely to pay attention in 2 rooms contemporaneously

Jim

@Matt ditoo

Techidiot

^^

Matt

16:30

hundreds of buttons

"the better part of a thousand"

leads me to 512

specifically 8 bits

Sconibulus

the more helpful change was probably in the message

512 is 9 bits, isn't it?

Rubio

Chat on mobile is a royal pain. I hop on chat when i'm not home from time to time, but I won't do more than one room at a time. I'd quite prefer keeping the CCCC here, personally.

Matt

omg

yes it is

GentlePurpleRain

@TrojanByAccident What about that...?

Rubio

The app keeps teasing me too - there's a new chat thingie built into it now, but it won't let me use it; thinks I'm not logged in. so I end up pushed back to the web version. So annoying.

Matt

16:33

what's more interesting is that there are 8 different notes used in the treble line, and 9 in the bass line

TrojanByAccident

@GentlePurpleRain You see....

GentlePurpleRain

@Rubio When did that happen? I would love integrated chat in the app.

@TrojanByAccident No, I don't...

Rubio

It's happened twice, actually

and then it goes away

TrojanByAccident

@GentlePurpleRain I see....

Rubio

But it started happening maybe a week ago

There's a setting in preferences somewhere for it, even

Display name

16:35

Do you mean the mobile chat website? There's no chat built into the app.

Rubio

Eh. Yeah it might be an update mobile chat version rather than in the app

I honestly didn't pay it much attention as it never worked right

[✓] Use new mobile UI if your device supports it in Chat prefs

And oh - I see now... it actually says there that "Currently, this only applies to the live chat view and the rooms list. " That explains a lot.

When it says "view" it seems to mean it, cuz you can't actually interact in it.

Feeds

17:00

GentlePurpleRain has added Rubio to the list of this room's owners.

TrojanByAccident

Nice

Congrats @Rubio

GentlePurpleRain

Based on the score of 11 here.

Rubio

Huh. Nice, thanks! :)

Oooh. I'm all italicized and stuff.

GentlePurpleRain

Don't let it go to your head... :)

TrojanByAccident

@GentlePurpleRain There's 21 for Gareth, though?

Rubio

17:04

NOW MY REIGN OF TERROR SHALL BEGIN. GROVEL BEFORE ME, LESSER CREATURES, OR FEEL MY WRA... er. sorry, what was I saying?

6

@TrojanByAccident Gareth has already been exalted

GentlePurpleRain

@TrojanByAccident Yes, but he was made an owner a while ago. He wasn't at 21 then.

TrojanByAccident

Oh

Forgive my ignorance, mighty rulers

Rubio

He was somewheres around 15 if I recall aright

GentlePurpleRain

Hard to say. He shot up pretty quickly...

Display name

Now I have one more person I can blame for all my issues in chat. Great.

Sid

17:06

Master Rubio, What dost thou command of me? :P

Rubio

I think I upvoted him to 16 between Emrakul asking if he wanted to do it (and me quoting his prior response that he'd do so if asked) and someone actually making it so, which was about 5 minutes, so

I'm pretty sure he was at 15 ;)

dcfyj

@Sid I'm pretty sure that should be "What dost thou command of me?"

Sid

There you go

Sconibulus

I'm pretty sure it should be "What is thy bidding, my master"

Rubio

This is the correct youtube.com/watch?v=58JrxLL3u2s

durnit ninjaed

Sconibulus

17:07

"It's a disaster, skywalker we're after"

Rubio

oooh! I love that @Sconibulus

Annnnd now I have to go play it. Thanks. :)

Sconibulus

"but if he could be turned to the Dark Side"
"yes, he'd be a powerful ally, another Dark Jedi"

"He will join us or die!"

Rubio

Luke, use the Force, and run! Run to Dagobah! Run to Dagobah!

GentlePurpleRain

<spoiler alert>! :P

Rubio

@Sconibulus So here's the real question: Original, or Special Edition?

Sid

17:09

Star wars?

Not my forte...

Sconibulus

I don't think I've seen it in five years or so, so I'm going to go with Original?

Rubio

Star Wars Gangsta Rap Special Edition

►

Sconibulus

I don't have headphones and am at work :<3(

(sad man with giant nose)

((hence the sadness))

Rubio

lol. Well, you know how it goes; mute it and watch the new animations. (that's the diff between original and S.E.)

Sconibulus

hey, I saw that corvette a couple days ago

Display name

17:12

I can't decide what my favourite quote from Star Wars is. Either "I don't like sand [...]" or "I've seen a security hologram of him... killing younglings (not Anakin)". I think I haven't managed to watch either of those scenes without laughing.

Rubio

I don't know what you're talking about. Those lines were in a Star Wars movie? (*cough*)

Sid

And I am watching "The scent of a woman" from 1992. Al Pacino is the man!

Display name

I actually learned to appreciate the prequels as fantastic comedy movies.

Rubio

I really wanna see Topher Grace's 85min cut of all three prequels.

(nofilmschool.com/2014/05/…)

TrojanByAccident

@Displayname My favourite quote from Star Wars is "Are you kidding me? I'm blind!"

Sconibulus

17:22

I'm a little partial to "Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?"

TrojanByAccident

lol

Mithrandir

Apology accepted

Matt

@Rubio I've seen it, it's quite good

Mithrandir

62

Q: Since when has Darth Vader had a sense of humor?

In Rogue One, after Darth Vader makes the comment This comment displays a sense of humor that seems entirely out of character for him. Is it ever explained in-universe?

star-wars darth-vader rogue-one

Matt

jar jar has 2 lines

Rubio

17:26

Heh. I read that thread when it was on HNQ

Mithrandir

*“We were promised a reward,” she gasped. “A h-h-handsome reward!“*

*"I am your reward,” the Sith Lord said. “You don’t find me handsome?”*

Rubio

Or on "Related", I forget

I enjoyed it

@Matt How did you see it?

Matt

it was on youtube or vimeo or something

Mithrandir

I've only watched ANH, none other SW movies. Didn't like A New Hope

Sconibulus

but it's so good... and Empire and Jedi are even better

TrojanByAccident

17:28

@Rubio Same

Sconibulus

what didn't you like about it? If I might ask

TrojanByAccident

For those who have watched them both, which do you prefer, TFA or R1?

Rubio

The trailer is, but I have looked for the full cut and it seems to have never been released.

Matt

I enjoyed Rogue One more

Sconibulus

Rogue One had a better plot, but far worse characters

Matt

17:30

I'm more excited to see the continuation of the saga, but there were so many moments in RO that just made me happy to see

Rubio

@TrojanByAccident Someone asked me that on the way out of the theater. My answer to you is my answer to them: they're totally different, I don't know that either was better than the other. I think I enjoyed Rogue One more, but that's probably largely because it stands alone instead of being part 1 of an arc

Sconibulus

Rogue One felt like it began life as the best Star Wars video game ever, and got turned into a movie

Mithrandir

It just felt... Unrealistic.

Rubio

@Sconibulus Yeah they completely forsook character development to get everything in there plotwise they wanted to

Mithrandir

Especially with the Wookie copilot.

Sconibulus

17:32

Unrelated, isn't earning Nice Question, asked via Mobile, supposed to be a hat?

Mithrandir

yes

Sid

@Jim Does your Newton puzzle require colors to be converted to hex?

Mithrandir

How do you fly a spacecraft if your copilot doesn't even speak a recognizable language? He sounded like he was just yawning really loudly all the time.

Sconibulus

I wonder why it didn't happen then

TrojanByAccident

I personally enjoyed Rogue One tons more

Sconibulus

17:33

maybe it's just slow

Mithrandir

What question?

Sconibulus

10

Q: One for All, and All for One

We three are one For ear or tongue Yet not for eye nor hand Of our good three But one lacks three As this riddle lacks we

riddle

Mithrandir

When did it reach 10?

Sconibulus

@Mithrandir Everyone needs to speak the same language?

I dunno, long enough for the badge to register

Mithrandir

@Sconibulus No, but all of Chewies lined were just... yawns.

Sconibulus

17:34

Han was able to speak both, and Chewbacca clearly understood 'Common' or whatever

Display name

On the Winterbash website it says you have the hat

Sconibulus

I assumed it was a vocal cord thing

Mithrandir

Do I get a hat if I singlehandedly sing the entire Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat musical? :P

Sconibulus

ahh, now it's showing, I guess it was just slow, I sort of figured it'd show up on the same pass as the badge was awarded

Matt

it's possible

you might get a lot of strange looks, depending on the context

Mithrandir

17:36

Who, me? :P

Matt

yes

Mithrandir

Well, it's that time of year...

judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/parashat-vayeishev

Matt

like I said, it depends on the context :)

TrojanByAccident

Don't you love when people decide to write half a sentence in one language and the other half in another?

GentlePurpleRain

@Mithrandir For those of us who aren't Jewish/don't understand Hebrew, what time of year is it? (not sure what parashat-vayeishev means...)

Mithrandir

17:41

That's when we read the parsha called veyeshev, that's where the josep s ry is

Matt

@TrojanByAccident things get weird when the other language is written the other direction

GentlePurpleRain

So, for laypeople, it's essentially the time of year when the story of Joseph is read/remembered?

Mithrandir

Yep

So I know basically the whole musical by heart

TrojanByAccident

@Matt Oh jeez

Display name

Now I know why you're #6 in Winterbash :P

Mithrandir

17:50

Not sure whether this is spam: lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/6322/…

dcfyj

I think it answers the question, albeit not the best of answers.

Although, it's also a super old question

GentlePurpleRain

@Mithrandir Looks like blatant self-promotion to me.

TrojanByAccident

I have a question - Is documentation in other languages allowed on SO?

dcfyj

@GentlePurpleRain Well, a promotion of some sort anyhow

Mithrandir

So spamflag it?

dcfyj

17:53

@TrojanByAccident How do you mean?

GentlePurpleRain

I was going to ask that too.

@Mithrandir I did.

TrojanByAccident

Well, I found a documentation that popped up that was in all Japanese

dcfyj

Was it on the Japanese stack or actual SO?

TrojanByAccident

Actual SO

dcfyj

Link?

TrojanByAccident

17:57

stackoverflow.com/documentation/review/changes/117096

Wasn't sure whether to accept or reject

dcfyj

Because chat likes cutting off names, I keep reading yours as "TrojanByAcid"...

TrojanByAccident

lol

Actually, translated by google, it's just a bunch of text repeated anyway

lol

spam then

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