The Sphinx's Lair

Sphinx

01:06

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> exe find plaintext SYSTEM ERROR: Unable to analyze image. > exe show ciphertext WMJS LX BN HCBMSQF MHXTAJJ UO GJNOQXURDYF HRB UHH HJPKJS PUT (UM) VTGTZFSE ZTSKV. > exe help file INSTRUCTIONS: THE IMAGE SHALL HELP YOU DECRYPT THE CIPHERTEXT. SYSTEM_ERROR: "puzzling_bash" I...

Sphinx

03:29

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Q: What is a Breech Phrase™?

This is in the spirit of the What is a Word/Phrase™ series inaugurated by JLee with his original Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a phrase adheres to a certain rule, then I call it a Breech Phrase™. Use the examples below to find the rule. In case you want it in CSV: BREECH PHRASES, NOT BREE...

cipher pattern word-property

user61230

04:29

I'm going ahead and making the change from my comment on this question, just to see how it works out.

Feeds

Emrakul has made a change to the feeds posted into this room‌

Alconja

04:55

@Emrakul *sits staring, waiting for the next question to appear*

user61230

@Alconja waiting... waiting.....

user61230

(Note that bountied questions and meta questions still appear in-line.)

Alconja

@Emrakul Oohh! I think I sa-- ..no, just a smudge on my screen

Puzzling — BOUNTY!

05:45

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Q: The mess of Adrian Puzzlinger

Adrian Puzzlinger has gone missing again. Even worse, for puzzle lovers, the latest puzzle under construction is a mess. The only shred of order in the chaos of Puzzlinger's puzzler parlor is this puzzling chart, which, predictably, puzzles the perpetually puzzled puzzle police. ...

enigmatic-puzzle reverse-puzzling

Ankoganit

Hmm, why does the star on Emrakul's message looks different?:o

Alconja

@Ankoganit Assuming it's some sort of self-mod-star...

Ankoganit

@Alconja That's a thing?:O

Wait, the history of that message says "pinned by Emrakul", so it must be something like that...

Mmm, nice

user189275

06:11

@Ankoganit Your recent wordplay puzzle is fun and good . How did you manage to find the words, though?

Ankoganit

@ArbitraryKangaroo Thanks. Python ;D

user189275

@Ankoganit Oooh. How did you manage to get so many words to perform brute search?

Ankoganit

I've a wordlist with 435k words that I made by union-ing three or four wordlists available online

user189275

@Ankoganit How long it took to perform the search ?

Ankoganit

06:27

@ArbitraryKangaroo Umm..not much, like <1s for each digit IIRC

humn

08:28

Re: "Click here to toggle grid" at Square number of sequences: @Rubio, you are a MathJax ManiaC!

Happen to see the mathjax puzzles? (not many users have) Care to add one sometime?

Rubio

I've been doing MathJax for like 4 days now. I'm just good at locating useful bits from other people's postings and putting them together to do what I want.

I wanted to show those answerers' results in something other than the plaintext digit dumps they did, but doing anything with fg/bg color in a Spoilers tag makes the color bleed through. I figured there had to be a way to prevent that. Turns out there isn't, but I did find the "click here" toggle bit in another post, and put that to good use to sidestep the issue :)

oh. man. what have you done. now i'm looking at those puzzles and discovering more fun that can be done with MathJax. @humn you monster.

humn

Who's scaring whom? The \toggle command you found is just what many puzzlers here have wanted to incorporate. Talk about interactive! Especially when combined with state tracking. (Variables can be tricky but are certainly possible.)

...

Hiya Jonathan, does your superdoku solver work on small grids? (Thinking of basing a puzzle on a small one.)

Rubio

08:46

I just read through the first 4 or so puzzles that came up under the MathJax tag and I'm now deeply and tragically aware that I've barely scratched the surface on MathJax. Hehe... Seems like an interesting environment to get to know, and powerful in the right hands.

humn

at least not all of those puzzles revolve around \def tricks

but it is really is great to have a programming language built into each post

Alenanno

I think testing your own puzzle to see if it works is the hardest part of puzzle creation.

Sid

ANyone seen this? puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/45345/…

The link won't open on my laptop showing some sort of error...

Rosie F

@Sid Yes. I wondered if it was written especially to be obfuscated (a 256-entry look-up table would be slicker).

@Sid And seeing as it's a programming puzzle, should we say that it belongs at PPCG and not here?

Sid

Not sure, I am not a member of PPCG and haven't seen any of their stuff...

humn

08:52

Not an expert but have seen many of them say that the P for "Puzzling" in PPCG is vestigial.

Sid

puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/31614/mushroom-bang-boom - I have a weird feeling that this guy is a sockpuppet of some user here... Maybe I am wrong. But that question sounds like the guy is an established user who is pretty familiar with everyone around here...

humn

Are they you? (open question to whoever reads this)

No kidding about test-solving being the hardest part, @Alenanno! And when test-running results in revisions, it becomes the hardest part of solving many puzzles that never even get presented. But at least it's never a race against some of the sprint-solvers around here.

Sid

@Techidiot Is the rhyme tag really necessary for your puzzle? Given, that you state that you could use other tags which might be relevant to your question..

Techidiot

@Sid-Rhyme only due to the fact that the lines rhyme.

Alenanno

@humn yeah the revision part is horrible, I hope I don't have to do much of it.

Sid

09:02

@Techidiot Nothing to do with the answer?

Techidiot

No. Nothing to do with the answer.

Sid

@Techidiot Just the riddle to solve in it??

Techidiot

"Follow the rhyme and reach your destination!" is for a reason. :)

Rosie F

I see that an RSS feed of questions posted to the main Puzzling.SE has been set up here and is on by default. How do I switch it off, please?

Alenanno

09:19

@RosieF I don't think you can...

Mods can, you can't lol

If I understood what you're talking about

are you referring to the drop-down announcements?

Rosie F

09:43

@Alenanno Yes. They are even more intrusive than the "Sphinx" feed, because they stay on screen even if you scroll the transcript.

Alenanno

@RosieF There is a "remove" button when they come out. :P

But I guess that's not enough for you.

Rosie F

@Alenanno A "remove" button? Where? I see a "dismiss" button at the right-hand end of the drop-down (with the RSS logo as a background). But that just dismisses that particular drop-down.

Alenanno

@RosieF Ah yes, that's what I meant.

Rosie F

@Alenanno You're correct. It's annoying to choose: either move hand from keyboard to mouse to dismiss the drop-down, or have it obscure three or four lines of transcript.

Rubio

the tradeoff is having every new puzzle appear as a (large) chatbot message, or not seeing new postings in here at all

Rosie F

09:50

@Alenanno I know many sites have RSS feeds, but IME those feeds are off by default. Rather than on by default and not turn-off-able.

Alenanno

@RosieF Well, if it was a regular user, you could use the "ignore this user" trick. :P

Personally, I'd turn them off, or allow them to post only some questions.

Lukas Rotter

10:29

I just realized that you can't start a bounty of lower value than the ones the question had before.... I guess dcfyi will also get +500, lol.

Rubio

I can't decide if I want my answer here to be right, or not.

Techidiot

10:47

Lol. Messed up puzzle :D

No use of pattern anywhere I guess :D

Rubio

Yeah that was kinda odd.

Given the error, I didn't actually expect that to be the right answer - but OP accepted it, so I guess that was the intended solution.

Techidiot

Yeah. Indeed. I am still lurking in 4 sheets of excel with "AABCEHMUH" :D

user189275

11:28

@LukasRotter Just saying, why are you giving away most of your rep ?

Lukas Rotter

@ArbitraryKangaroo Because it's fun :P

Rubio

@ArbitraryKangaroo I think he said previously that he doesn't really care about rep, and just wants to keep enough to be able to get around without undue restrictions.

Or, well, ^ that^ :)

Lukas Rotter

@Rubio The things that you said are also correct, I obviously wouldn't do this if I cared about rep. My minimum is 125, though. (so in that sense I do care about it :(( )

Alenanno

@dcfyj Are you here?

user189275

@LukasRotter Ah, good thing.

Lukas Rotter

11:41

BTW, I think TBB finally improved the quality of questions he posts. (at least it looks like it)

Rubio

@LukasRotter TBB?

Lukas Rotter

@Rubio TheBitByte (he changed his username)

Rubio

Ah. Gotcha - haven't been here long enough to see someone do that, let alone know who he is/was.

That one is ... er ... puzzling. The image is just two colors that I can tell, doesn't all that practically lend itself to redimensioning, and isn't tagged steganography.

dcfyj

@Alenanno What's up?

Alenanno

11:57

@dcfyj I was wondering if you knew how to copy formatting of a table... As in background/borders. :D

dcfyj

In excel?

Alenanno

Yeah.

dcfyj

Format painter usually works pretty well

It's on the home tab in excel, no idea where it would be for you

Alenanno

13:59

@dcfyj Sorry, wasn't here lol Format painter? Thanks, I'll check it out.

Lukas Rotter

15:25

@Rubio Even with known plaintext I still have no idea how to decipher the image. Kinda sad, the way to decipher the image looks rather complicated, but the ciphertext was extremely weak... And because of that I'm not sure whether the shown ciphertext is the "real" ciphertext... A trap? :P

Rubio

@lukas it kinda looks like, maybe, possibly, if you take only the horizontal and vertical lines of the image with Stuff™ in them—basically, cut out all the rows/columns of pixels that are totally black—the resulting collapsed image might be intelligible. i don't have a good way of doing that, though.

dcfyj

Paint?

Alenanno

@LukasRotter Honestly, the white stuff in the image reminds me of monospace fonts, like the ones you see in bash or terminals. Also, if you zoom, there are small 5s as exponents.

I keep testing my puzzle, but it's hard to emulate a group of strangers cooperating to solve it lol

._.

dcfyj

Why? Don't you have multi-personalities to help? :P

Rubio

Yup. But not much beyond that. What it looked like to me is what you'd get if you put black text on a white background, and then bucket filled all the areas around the text in black - leaving just the gaps inside the letters in white. But it just reminds me of that; it doesn't actually seem to BE that, and even if it was, it'd be hell to recover the letters as everything but the white bits are uniformly black.

Alenanno

15:36

@dcfyj They're all on vacation :D

dcfyj

I'm really hating this form control right now...

Alenanno

@dcfyj Form control?

dcfyj

Specifically a panel on the form

I want it docked left, which works fine (for the most part), but for whatever reason it insists on not being anchored to the bottom of the form when docked left...

Alenanno

@dcfyj Are you creating a form?

dcfyj

Modifying, but yes

Alenanno

15:43

I think I'll just post my puzzle. If it turns out to be too hard, I'll add a couple of hints. I honestly don't know how to check for that.

And I've been doing it for days now. I'm fed up. lol

dcfyj

It's a guess really

Deusovi

@LukasRotter Honestly I think they just wrote a message, then paint-bucketed the outside of it and expected us to recover it.

Alenanno

@Deusovi I was thinking something similar lol

Lukas Rotter

If that's it, I guess I'll take my comment about how TBB improved question-quality back :P

Deusovi

I mean, it's possible that they improved. And I don't mean to be rude or seem like I'm "calling them out" or anything.

But considering puzzles like this...

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Q: What is an Isolated Word™?

This is in the spirit of the What is a Word/Phrase™ series started by JLee with a special brand of Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a word conforms to a special rule, I call it an Isolated Word™. Use the following examples to find the rule: Isolated Words™,Not Isolated Words™ Reclusive,Affable ...

word pattern word-property

dcfyj

15:51

Not sure that's really a puzzle lol

More of a Thesaurus

Alenanno

@dcfyj lol

Sconibulus

I made another puzzle, that might maybe qualify for Tag Fusion

Deusovi

Ooh, can't wait to see!

dcfyj

is the ball a specific piece right now?

Lukas Rotter

@Sconibulus The puzzle itself / the idea is unconventional IMO... But I'm not sure if the tags are... Isn't chess considered a sport?

dcfyj

15:57

I believe so, for whatever reason

Rubio

@LukasRotter I still don't see how you were able to Kasiski that ciphertext. i only found one usable repeated substring. how'd you find the potential key lengths you found, if I may ask?

Sconibulus

@dcfyj The ball is never a piece between turns

dcfyj

@Sconibulus Then I don't understand your rules

Sconibulus

When the ball is captured: e.g. by a pawn on E4, it then moves immediately as a White Pawn to D5, E5, or F5, and reverts to being the Ball

dcfyj

ah, so if the bishop on f1 captures it, it can go to h3 or anywhere from f3 - a8 (on the diagonal)

Sconibulus

16:01

It would then be Blacks turn, if black play F5, it could move the ball to E4, F4, or G4. E4 would turn it into a White pawn, which could play the original moves again.

right

it could also go to where the Bishop moved from, F1

dcfyj

or the corner

Sconibulus

yeah

Lukas Rotter

@Rubio Turns out I changed "43" to "44". Nice. So I accidentally found the correct key length. How do I explain this in my answer O_o :P

Rubio

"Serendipity". :)

dcfyj

@Sconibulus Can chain reactions be done (passing)? i.e. Say it were Black's turn, Knight to ball, ball to queen, ball to other knight, ball to goal

Rubio

16:07

@dcfyj that's how I read it.

Sconibulus

Yeah, that's rule 3 I think

dcfyj

ok

Do we have to play smart? because if not I found a solution for black :P

Rubio

Hehe

So do those count as moves? Or are you counting a "move" as a half-turn in chess?

dcfyj

True, there's that too

Lukas Rotter

@Rubio True, even though my generated Kasiski table displayed the correct 43, I assumed it made a mistake and tried it with 44... A very bizarre way how to arrive at the solution, but hey! At least I didn't brute-force it :P

dcfyj

16:13

lol

Rubio

Hehe. So basically you found 44, factored, picked 4, tried it, it worked, huzzah ... only you started wrong from the get-go and you only thought you Kasiski'd it. I love it

Sconibulus

Oops, I may have meant turn

dcfyj

?

Lukas Rotter

@Rubio I found 43, but assumed it was 44. (i.e. not trusting technology) The other parts of your comment are correct :P

Rubio

@Sconibulus And one more clarifying question - if (say) white captures ball with knight and then uses his knight move to "capture" Black's queen, does Black then get a free move of the ball as a queen before his turn starts - and then gets to play out his turn?

dcfyj

16:18

I'm interested in that answer :P

Sconibulus

Yes, black would get a ball move, without using his half turn

dcfyj

What if, in capturing the ball, the pawn changes to another piece, does the ball move as a pawn or as the other piece?

Deusovi

It would have to move as the other piece. It can't move as a pawn because it'd be on the top row.

dcfyj

That's what I was thinking

The problem I have with puzzles like these is I suck at playing against myself...

Sid

16:36

So, the king is the goalkeeper?

dcfyj

Not much of one, he can only move on their turn...

Sid

16:48

@dcfyj How is the long diagonal bad for white? The bishop gets almost a free route to the back

dcfyj

I said most of it is bad for white. The four spots before the Black Rook all cause black to win if the ball stops there

Sid

Say, Bxg2. Then, if Nd5, Bishop can capture on d5(I think) or does it mean, that black gets the ball as he intercepts the bishop's diagonal?

dcfyj

So you're sending the ball to g2?

Sid

The ball is on g2, right?

Sconibulus

yeah, Ball is on G2, if BxG2, Ball needs to move off of G2

dcfyj

16:52

I meant d5 sorry

If the ball stops on d5, Nxd5, ball passed to f6, passed to h4, passed to f2, goal

That diagonal send the ball that way every time for black

Like I said, it's bad for white

Sid

Ok, that means Black wins this.

dcfyj

It's possible white has an optimal play that gets the win

If White wants to wins I'm pretty sure it has to use the Knight as it's first move

Sid

Probably needs to capture that annoying black knight in f4

Sconibulus

we decided it didn't count as unconventional tags though?

dcfyj

Unconventional puzzle, but I don't know on the tags

Sconibulus

17:05

I am hoping that I can end up doing more than one of these

Sid

can the ball go over the black king?

dcfyj

If it's a Knight I don't see why not

Sconibulus

Only if it's being kicked by a Knight

Rubio

17:21

@sid your answer doesn't address the (out of "turn") ball moves that should be triggered by capturing the ball. if white makes Rxa4, he loses immediately when black moves.

dcfyj

That's what I said :)

Sconibulus

You said it faster than me, because I went through the whole notation :)

dcfyj

yup

Sid

Wait, so, if black takes g2, he has a free move? And white can't capture him?

dcfyj

He doesn't have a free move, the ball does

Once a side "captures" the ball, they can keep moving the ball as long as it hits a square that they have a piece on

Sid

17:29

where is that mentioned in the question?

dcfyj

Rule 3 I think

Combo of Rules 2 and 3

Sid

Ok, with say, Nxg2, white can keep moving the ball as long as he wants, till it reaches a square a piece is on?

dcfyj

@Sconibulus your edit just made me think of en passant

Sconibulus

The ball could probably be captured via en passant, but it hasn't come up yet. I'd say yes, but I don't think that can be relevant for this puzzle

dcfyj

For example, If the Bishop on F1 moves to G2 (where the ball is) the ball may now move to any square that a bishop could move to.

@Sconibulus There are only 2 pawns that could do it anyhow

Sid

17:33

@dcfyj without black's move?

Sconibulus

@Sid The ball would get one Knight move, if that move lands on another piece, that piece moves it again

dcfyj

Before black's move

Just imagine the ball as a morphing chess piece, it moves (once) in the same fashion as the last piece that "captured" it

So if a Knight "captures" it, it moves like a Knight once; if a Rook "captures" it, it moves like a Rook once; etc.

Sconibulus

We have been saying 'Kicked' but that seemed like extra terminology

Sid

I would say, white's knight is its only hope. It sort of looks like, it can escape from black clutches....

Maybe, Bxg2 Ob7 and then try to pass it to the white queen...

dcfyj

no, because Rxb7, OxF7,OxF6,OxH4,OxF2,OxGOAL

Black is very well positioned

Sconibulus

17:40

And has a sizable material edge

Alenanno

@dcfyj OK I posted it. U_U

@Deusovi Are you here? I posted the puzzle, that's what I meant.

dcfyj

@Alenanno Rather confusing. I think I understand the instructions, but regardless not a puzzle I'll be attempting as I suck at these too :(

Alenanno

@dcfyj Why confusing?

dcfyj

The whole gray square with a wall thing took me a bit to even think I understand it.

Sconibulus

Is 'cipher' right?

dcfyj

17:48

He said the words were encrypted

Sconibulus

oh, wait, I see, the name in the gray boxes is enciphered

Alenanno

@dcfyj Feel free to ask if you have doubts about that kind of stuff.

Sconibulus

So the 'pieces' are straight lines of words that can cross wall boundries?

but the words we want do not cross the wall boundries?

and when there are letters in a square, that means one of those letters is the correct letter for that square?

Alenanno

@Sconibulus Basically, it's a grid, so one letter per square. You must follow the thicker borders to place the words. The thinner grid is just to show you the ... squares. :D

The gray cells share a letter so two words can both start from there, or cross there, etc.

But you must always follow the thicker borders to place the words.

dcfyj

I see no way to place s next to r while maintaining the bold borders...

Sconibulus

17:56

@dcfyj yeah, that's what made me start this questioning :)

Alenanno

@dcfyj Are you talking about the small letters? They do not indicate what letters you must place there... ;)

They are supposed to be cryptic clues.

dcfyj

ah ok

Alenanno

@dcfyj For a moment, you had me scared, I thought I had miscounted the fragments.

dcfyj

You should make your dots easier to see :P

Alenanno

@dcfyj But it's stated in the first point! :D Did you not read it? lol

> The gray cells with the dotted border are cells in common. Therefore each one of such cells shares two words. The gray cells at the center, which appear without any particular border, are not shared by any word (but still important for the solution, of course).

dcfyj

18:09

I did read it, but I still think it should be shown better in the image lol

Sconibulus

so the fragments... will they be straight lines, or may they bend?

it says it's a broken mosaic, so we'd probably know the shape which makes me think straight lines, but I could easily be wrong

Alenanno

@Sconibulus They bend according to the thicker borders.

@Sconibulus Mosaic is just an image broken in smaller pieces (of any shape). I just reused that idea figuratively. :D

Can anyone suggest me an unconventional tag couple by the way? I want to try the challenge.

dcfyj

If the mini-letters on the board are just cryptic clues to the cipher then I'm definitely not doing this puzzle lol. I don't have that kind of time to try and guess at a random collection of words.

Minesweeper/crossword? :P

Alenanno

@dcfyj You did that! lol

@dcfyj I think you can easily guess what the letters mean. Just observe! :P

Sconibulus

I think the problem is that to solve it at all, you have to solve basically the whole thing

dcfyj

18:12

I know, but not for the fort.

And to solve the whole thing you have to guess and check where the fragments go

Alenanno

Ehm guess? No, you don't have to guess.

dcfyj

Maybe you don't, but I would, I have no way of knowing what goes where.

Sconibulus

The thing to do is probably count the word lengths, then try to make words of those lengths from the fragments

things like 'quez' will probably only have one available word

Alenanno

@dcfyj Well, the no-computers tag implies no scripts or just no tools at all?

Because I have no problem if you use a crossword solver to see what a fragment can be used where. I just would appreciate if you didn't use automatic scripts. :P

dcfyj

I believe no scripts, Since I tried to use it as no research (no googling) and they used google anyways :(

Alenanno

18:16

For example, those solvers like *nanno, or ?l?n?nn?, are fine.

:D

Is it me or is the site deserted lol

Sconibulus

I don't think it's deserted?

Alenanno

Well, it's only the 3 of us in chat.

Not that I don't enjoy talking to you guys lol

dcfyj

Chat has been pretty quiet this week

Alenanno

By the way, I thought about adding some letters here and there to make it easier. If I see that the solving process is not working, I'll do that. But I wanted to try making it harder first.

Sconibulus

Oh wow, apparently Alconja had a very similar idea

Alenanno

18:28

When? Where? lol

Sconibulus

in Unconventional Tag Fusion, Oct 28 at 4:46, by Alconja

So a soccer/football version, where pieces move normally, but there's a "ball", and if you "take" the ball it moves equal/opposite to your move

Alenanno

@Sconibulus Ah to your FootChess?

Sconibulus

now I feel bad... I don't think that I saw that, but if I did then I was half asleep at the time and I totally stole it

Alenanno

18:53

@Sconibulus I think @Alconja is going to hunt you down! Quick, hide! :P

ffao

I think you should elaborate on what you mean by no computers if it isn't obvious

But stopping google usage is nearly impossible anyway

On a happier note, the Puzzling T-shirt has now been officially introduced to the andes mountains

We must take over the world

Alenanno

@ffao I did, check at the bottom of the question.

Only automatic scripts are forbidden.

Lukas Rotter

@ffao Meanwhile, rand al'thor is still waiting in the UK for his shirt...

Alenanno

Where is he by the way?

Lukas Rotter

@Alenanno I think he mentioned something about being "busy in real life".

Alenanno

19:03

@LukasRotter Yeah, but I thought he meant that temporarily...

Rubio

@Sconibulus did you ever answer what piece the ball moves as if you "capture" it in the process of pawn promotion?

Sconibulus

Well, since it can't move as a pawn, it has to move as the promoted piece, because it's not allowed to stay in place

Rubio

makes sense.

Sconibulus

The only scenario where it could theoretically move as a pawn, the game's already over, so it doesn't matter

Alenanno

@LukasRotter @ffao @Rubio Do you have any suggestions for an Unconventional tag question? :D

Sconibulus

19:13

steganography rebus?

dcfyj

@Sconibulus That sounds nasty

Rubio

logic-grid+rebus or logic-grid+steganography would both be ... er ... interesting

Sconibulus

Yeah, I worked on one for a while before giving up

It seemed impossible

but I'd love to be proved wrong

dcfyj

Depends what kind of rebus you're trying to use methinks

Alenanno

@Sconibulus I have a rebus ready. Not sure how to add steganography to it lol

Sconibulus

19:16

well... it wasn't a REJBÄS

dcfyj

A rebus like this:

WEAR
LONG

would be much easier to add stegonography to than an image one

In my mind at least

Rubio

awww man

dcfyj

?

Rubio

@dcfyj just showed us his long underwear

dcfyj

ah

What about this one?
AIRAIRAIRAIRAIRAIR

Sconibulus

19:18

probably better than his entirely-too-short underwear :)

Alenanno

@dcfyj Airline ahah you showed that before :D

Rubio

What's that supposed to be, an airstream?

ahhh. Airline works too

dcfyj

@Alenanno I know, but he hadn't seen it before, oh ruiner-of-puzzles :P

Alenanno

@dcfyj T_T

Rubio

. love velo
. ve ve lo ve
. lo love lo
. ve ve le ve
. love love

ew. that got wrecked

dcfyj

19:23

Not sure what you were trying lol

Shift+Enter is handy for inserting a newline

Rubio

. . . love . . . velo
. . ve . .ve . lo . .ve
. lo . . . . love . . . . lo
. . ve ve . le . .ve
. . . love . . . love

Sconibulus

the chat software condenses multispaces to single spaces, apparently

Rubio

there. that.

dcfyj

@Sconibulus It does, just like most of the stuff on this site

Alenanno

@Rubio Infinite love?

Rubio

19:25

more or less.. i missed a dot or two on the 4th line

ENDLESS love. :)

Alenanno

@Rubio Tomayto, tomahto.

You did the infinite sign, so...

Rubio

bah. It's a song, so it matters. ;)

Alenanno

:D

But if you do ∞, I think infinite

dcfyj

@Alenanno Not sure where you saw the ∞, but ok lol

oh never mind, I see it

Alenanno

@dcfyj Starting from bottom left, follow "love" syllables.

Going top left

More or less

:D

dcfyj

19:28

But it can't be endless love since there's an le in that rebus :P

Alenanno

@Rubio You also wrote a "le" in the middle :P

dcfyj

ninja'd!

Alenanno

ninja'd!

OMG!

dcfyj

ninja'd again!

Alenanno

ninja'd ninja'd :D

Rubio

19:28

Oh dear ;)

Alenanno

ahaha

dcfyj

ninja'd-ception!

Rubio

Well you got the idea. Pedants. hehe

dcfyj

Mine's better because it has an ! :P

Alenanno

@dcfyj There you go.

dcfyj

19:30

Cheater!

Sconibulus

Oooh, @Angzuril has an interesting line going

dcfyj

The one I made better?

Sconibulus

yep :)

dcfyj

Yeah, the moves he had for that part were weird. I was wondering why he didn't just do that instead lol

Alenanno

19:52

@GarethMcCaughan Do you really know the answer? O_o :D

Gareth McCaughan

@Alenanno yes

at least I think I do

and I think you are being a bit sneaky about the name

in a way I will not specify

Alenanno

@GarethMcCaughan Whisper it in my ear :D lol

Gareth McCaughan

@Alenanno any suggestions for how?

(I thought the remark about the name might be sufficient evidence)

(if I have got it right, of course)

Alenanno

@GarethMcCaughan The remark as in the title? "Famous Artist"?

Gareth McCaughan

no, my remark that I think you are being sneaky about the name

Alenanno

19:59

@GarethMcCaughan Well, not sure how you mean it. :D ahah

Gareth McCaughan

hmm. maybe that's evidence that I haven't got it right

Alenanno

20:09

@GentlePurpleRain See added example. Need to run for now, I'll be back later.

Rosie F

20:26

@Sconibulus Just one of the things we have to cope with when making text art.

Lukas Rotter

20:55

Does "I personally did something" sound arrogant / as if you're some important person and it's noteworthy that you did this? The intended meaning is that I just want to express what my personal opinion on something is and what actions result from it. I think "Personally, I did something" sounds better? Just want to make sure :P

Rosie F

@LukasRotter Not sure. But if you want to state your opinion, wouldn't you say "I think..." or something like that, rather than "I did something"? Or have I misunderstood?

Lukas Rotter

@RosieF It's more like "Personally, I did x because I think y". So an action and then the reason why I did it. If the full context matters: Here is it

Rubio

21:11

@LukasRotter for what it's worth I think you expressed yourself just fine, with no arrogance coming through.

It reads exactly as you meant it to - this is what you personally did.

Lukas Rotter

21:30

Thanks. I also read that it's more accurate to write "I, personally, ...". But that's not worth an edit :P

Gareth McCaughan

21:47

In some contexts it might sound arrogant, or at least not the way you probably intend it, because "I personally did X" can mean "I did X myself, rather than getting someone else to do it" and usually when that's noteworthy it's because "I" am someone who would normally not do things personally. "We ordered a sample and their CEO came around personally and set it up for us."

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