The Sphinx's Lair

Sciborg

11:00 PM

(here's the autograph)

bobble

it is wonderful

matt

agreed

Sciborg

Literally the coolest thing i own

bobble

what would you do if someone spilled water on it?

Sciborg

cry

matt

11:01 PM

better not spill any water on it

bobble

what would you do if someone purposely burned it?

Sciborg

these are threatening questions

matt

what are you planning @bobble

bobble

me? nothing. the bobblies? well...

Sciborg

oh no

bobble

11:03 PM

DISTRACTION: One thing I found out on a random internet dive was the nerdy scientists can be easily read as autistic if you want, so you could try that?

matt

what

bobble

fitz & simmons, SHIELD's nerdy scientists

Sciborg

I tend to read a lot of nerdy scientist characters on TV that way honestly

bobble

fair

when will you be re-attempting Statue Park?

Sciborg

trying to work on #7 at the moment, but i'm still a bit stuck

bobble

11:07 PM

I can help!

(maybe. no guarantees)

Sciborg

It looks like this

bobble

just the tetrominoes, right?

Sciborg

yeah. I'm having trouble with the fact that like... there are way too many black circles

bobble

well, one thing: does every shape have to have a black circle?

Sciborg

Not necessarily, no

bobble

11:09 PM

rephrase: can you identify 5 dots that cannot share shapes with each other?

Sciborg

uhhh

i think so?

bobble

does that help?

Sciborg

um

bobble

better yet: can you identify 2 different sets of 5 dots?

Sciborg

arrrgh

bobble

11:11 PM

okay, let's do a different plan

how many given dots can the O use, at a maximum?

Sciborg

it looks like one in this particular puzzle

bobble

how many dots are left over?

Sciborg

three

bobble

???

there are more than 4 dots?

Sciborg

are you asking how many black dots the O covers in this puzzle?

bobble

11:13 PM

no, how many of the remaining black dots must be used by non-O pieces

Sciborg

ohh

um

bobble

this requires counting & subtraction

Sciborg

there are 10 black dots total in the puzzle

the cube can only be placed so it covers 1 one of them

so 9 have to be used by non-O pieces.

bobble

there are how many non-O pieces left?

Sciborg

4

bobble

11:15 PM

so what can you say about how many dots each must cover?

(hint: division)

Sciborg

each one has to cover 2 and one has to cover 3

bobble

yes

so how can you fit that?

Sciborg

a couple ways?

oAlt

@bobble gl :0 (is it a hard subject over there?)

bobble

first off: how can you make a piece cover 3 dots?

Sciborg

11:17 PM

wait, the straight piece can't cover 3 dots, so it has to be the S piece that covers the 3 dots?

bobble

or L

Sciborg

how would L cover 3 dots?

bobble

top-middle extend right

Sciborg

ohh

Okay, so either S or L has to cover three dots

bobble

Okay, so can you figure out which dots would have to be connected if it was the L?

(drawing circles and/or arrows on your picture may be helpful)

Sciborg

11:19 PM

this feels like i'm brute-forcing it

bobble

I'll look for a better way, then

Sciborg

i mean, this way is 100% how i would do it, but deus told me to avoid brute-forcing

bobble

(I can place all the necessary shapes in my head, so it feel less brute-forcy to me)

Sciborg

that's fair, i can't do shapes in my head like you can

are there any logical/nurikabe steps i can do?

bobble

one thing: given that the 3-dot shape has to be an L or an S, can you place any ocean cells?

Sciborg

11:23 PM

possibly?

bobble

then do that and report back with picture

@oAlt it was just introductory concepts, so not that bad

Sciborg

like this?

bobble

does this feel like progress to you?

(and yes, that's right)

Sciborg

yes

...now what, is the question i guess

bobble

random things I notice:
if left-middle dot goes down, it has to be an L
middle dot is either L or T
there are very few places the I can go

Sciborg

11:28 PM

the I has to go horizontally, yeah. it can go 3 places right now

oAlt

@bobble epic

Sciborg

middle dot has to be L or T

bobble

yes, fixed typo

Sciborg

i guess i'm struggling to find the logical intended solve path, even though i can probably figure this out intuitively

bobble

my logical solve path is "rotate shapes around in head" which is probably also not intended

Sciborg

11:31 PM

yeah. i'm trying to do it the Deus Way

bobble

This is the Way

My family watches The Mandalorian

Sciborg

I love that show

matt

~~star trek~~

bobble

there are also only 3 ways to place the O, and all of them block one I placement

Sciborg

True, yeah

lol, partner is texting me "are you still over there doing puzzles like a n e r d"

bobble

11:34 PM

only three places to put the S

matt

"y e s"

bobble

@Sciborg you answered?

Sciborg

yes, this will not stand

i will not have my extremely normal pastimes be insulted

bobble

send them a puzzle back

Sciborg

do you think i can place oceans on the left, given that the left blue spot can only go two ways?

like, the top left two boxes must be oceans

well, no... wait, they could be the cube piece

arggggh

matt

11:37 PM

cube piece? this is a 2d puzzle

Sciborg

*O piece

bobble

nope, they can't

matt

(but 3d statue park would be amazing)

bobble

because then middle-top and left-middle dots would BOTH be L pieces

John Dvorak

@matt and bloody difficult, potentially

bobble

11:38 PM

7

Q: 3D Statue Park: Daggers and dashes

This is a three-dimensional Statue Park puzzle.1 The five squares in the below image depict the five levels of a $5\times5\times5$ cube. The goal is to fit inside it the eight pieces shown in the picture, so that the resulting space satisfies the following conditions: Pieces can be rotated or r...

7

Q: 3D Statue Park: U shapes

This is a three-dimensional Statue Park puzzle.1 The five squares in the below image depict the five levels of a $4\times4\times5$ cuboid. The goal is to fit inside it the four three-dimensional pieces shown in the picture, so that the resulting space satisfies the following conditions: The pie...

grid-deduction three-dimensional

you ask, I provide

John Dvorak

Thank you for that

Sciborg

ask and you will receive

bobble

anyways, does the upper-left cannot be a cube proof feel brute-forcy to you?

matt

@Sciborg (except in the case of Bad Things)

bobble

it's one step to the future

Sciborg

11:40 PM

i think that makes sense

so then the top left is ocean

bobble

yes

matt

how about 1d statue park?

bobble

you mean "a line"?

matt

mhm

Sciborg

i told partner i was doing nurikabes and he called me a nerdikabe, i'm offended

matt

11:41 PM

as you should be

bobble

your partner sounds like someone I would like to meet

John Dvorak

methinks it was meant to be affectionate

Sciborg

you would absolutely get along

bobble

and you're doing Statue Parks, not nurikabes

matt

@JohnDvorak methinks that is early modern english

Sciborg

11:42 PM

Statue Parks are just fancy nurikabes, prove me wrong

matt

not quite, there are no numbers in statue parks

bobble

nurikabes have the 2x2 rule, which is fancy

Sciborg

nurikabes are fancy Statue Parks, maybe?

bobble

statue parks have white dots

John Dvorak

Statue parks can have multiple clues per island

Sciborg

11:44 PM

...okay, maybe they're not the same, but they're the same in my heart

bobble

then there are my Tetromino Mineweepers, which are like nurikabes except opposite - the clues are ocean cells that tell you how many surrounding cells are island

(and no connectivity or 2x2 rules)

Sciborg

True!

bobble

and are also like statue parks because they have a piece bank

so I guess they have more in common with Tetromino Nurikabe than plain nurikabe

Sciborg

The diversity of the types of grid puzzles is part of what makes them fun :D

bobble

When I post new polyomino + grid-deduction mashups, I have the most experience with that genre of anyone here

John Dvorak

11:47 PM

Is Battleship the first Statue Park species?

bobble

due to all the failed puzzles made during creation process

you should really try to construct a grid-deduction, Sciborg! It's fun and ~~takes up way too much time~~ ~~gets you a bunch of rep~~ ~~lets you cackle while others try to figure it out~~

Sciborg