okay, how about just: if middle dot goes up, it is a L, and 3-dot is an S, so top-left dot is stuck?

I removed one step

i'm not sure how that helps with placing oceans though, since the middle dot might not go up

the point is middle dot can't go up, since it makes a contradiction

middle-dot becomes L, 3-dot becomes S, and top-left dot can't be squat

ohh

proof by contradiction

too far ahead contradiction?

i'm not sure, it feels like it might be one of those big intuition jumps that i'm not supposed to do.

@Deusovi when you're around, we need help on a statue park :p

this is frustrating for me because I can't turn off the part of my brain that just places shapes in my head

and those deductions seem to be too far ahead

Your way is fully a valid way to solve it, I'm just trying to do it the intended Deus-y way so I'm trying to avoid the intuition jumps

i'm gonna go back to my first picture and start over, i feel i've wandered too far off the path

another 2-steps ahead contradiction: if top left two dots are connected, they must be T, and left-middle dot must be L, and middle dot is stuck

oops invalid

aggh

could be an I

what do you have so far? let's see if i can, y'know, actually solve a statue park

I can see the solution in my mind's eye. That isn't helpful to you at all.

not really

oh, oh, I GOT SOMETHING

The middle-right dot HAS to be an S

oooh why?

if it goes up, it is an S, if it goes down, 3-dot makes an L so it has to be an S

but it could be a horizontal L couldn't it?

middle-right?

it can only by 3-dot S (if it goes up), or go down and join with bottom-right

do you follow?

(this is important for next part of deduction)

i think so

okay, so if that is the S, then middle-left HAS to be an L

agree?

an L??

is this too far ahead, or is the for-sure piece-here part making it better?

left-middle

is probably better way to say it

dot on left side

oh

I tried pointing at it on my computer screen

why does that have to be the L?

if it goes down it is L

if it goes up it can't be S, so it must be L

ahhh, okay

now i follow

this still is okay for you?

i think so yes

@bobble hm

okay, now for BIG reveal

middle dot... has to be a T

because it can't be an L

right

and there is only one way for it to be a T

so now you can place the T!

ah

this makes sense to me but how do i express this chain of logic in the solve pictures?

you can put on right "must be S", then on left "must be L", and point to middle dot and say "must be T"

sounds like a plan to me!

see if you can solve with that observation

or if you get stuck give more pictures

that is a very good observation, thank you

and it has no looking ahead!

yup!

(oh btw mick, i don't think i told you this, but i made my own chatroom)

ahh, and now i know where the I has to go, which is the key

all the pieces are falling into place?

yup!

(by the way, right before that message my hands grabbed a blanket and hit me over the head with it)

very strange tic there

maybe your hands were just trying to give you a blanket to cuddle and missed

at least blankets don't really hurt

@bobble indeed

is this it?

that is it

the T was key

yup! thank you for the nudge

now give this one to your partner and cackle

gonna text it to partner to see if he's proud of me

no just give them the puzzle

:p

lmao, i texted him the solution and said "are you proud of me for solving this" and he's trying his best to be supportive boyfriend-

it means you are officially a Statue Park Solver

give him one to solve and see what he does

he's confused but trying to be encouraging

i'm not gonna make him solve one

do you think you're good enough to try to construct a basic Statue Park?

the secret of construction is if you get stuck and there are multiple solutions or you can't see a deduction, you can just add clues

I'm not sure I would be confident enough in having only one solution

I will test-solve it for you

you'd do fine! *virtual huggos*

it's okay! i like solving them, i'm not gonna be any good at making them yet - have to learn the more advanced stuff first :D

warning to not attempt my Bobblie Statue Park until you feel very confident with mixing global & local deductions

it ended up being a weensy bit hard

no worries, i'm gonna continue through this basic pack - starting #8

how did your tests go?

econ was 100%, physics I am very confident in

that's good :)

Nice

is #8 coming along well?

i may actually take a quick break to run to the gas station since i forgot earlier today - will start it when i get back :)

okay! see you!

I'm almost done with my new connect puzzle!

nice

It's also flag themed :P

I'm planning a Monday morning release of my 2nd flag connect-wall

in case that affects your plans

Releasing mine sometime tonight

'borg is back, but I must go

sadness

Aww

Seeya bobble!

a cute old man held the door for me at the gas station and it was very wholesome

wholesomeness

sometimes you need an adorable grandpa to improve your entire day

indeed

meanwhile i am just sitting here playing free rider

How was your day? (and yours too North?)

good

yours?

Had a surprisingly great day today

@PrinceNorthLæraðr how are you?

@Sciborg Meh

I have mock trial scrimmage tomorrow

Ack

Ack :(

Good luck!

Thanks!

Finished the last single tetromino statue park, moving on to #9 Double Tetrominoes!

hey voldy!

Finished my connect wall! This one was much harder than I anticipated it would've been

Nice!

I need a title name

What's the theme of the puzzle?

Flags

"Puzzle Flagged for Moderator Action" :p

Hm, that'd be a good title for a future post

Flag this Question?

Heck yeah

Wordless Connect Wall: Please Don't Flag This Question

Doing that ^

I'd upvote that for title alone

@bobble I'm gonna make a knock-off-knock-off-gladys :P

Budget-Gladys

Gladys's second cousin twice removed?

I'm gonna go with budget gladys :p

Or is that too copy-catty

Clearance 10% Off Gladys

Now With More Flags

Low-Budget Gladys, aunt to the daughter of knock-off Gladys

Perfect

bobble!

yes I am back

North is posting a Low-Budget Gladys flag puzzle and I solved #8 and #9 while you were gone, doing double tetrominoes now :D

I went biking (for exercise), but it is now dark outside and dangerous to bike

Ah, yes, daylight savings

the double tetrominoes are much more fun - more kinds of logic!

They are AMAZING

Where the sun stops shining at 5 PM IN THE EVENING

Daylight savings either gives me more sleep and makes me feel great, or makes me wake up a grumpy zombie - there is no in-between

I was just doing no-hands biking around the local church parking lot, and there are lights there, but I was worried about getting home

no-hands biking is a great rush

no-hands biking while bingeing Harry Potter podcasts

Back when I played Pokemon Go, I would tie my phone to the handlebars and do giant loops around the bike trails catching Pokemon

(don't bike and look at your phone, obviously)

I like the church parking lot because it's nice an open and has a slight hill

also: has there been any window-slamming?

Nope, #8 and #9 were really fun and breezy! Do you want to see solutions?

sure, I shall give you claps

this was #8

(I have all of the puzzle pack solved on a giant Google Sheet)

you can tell I used a lot more shape-fitting logic on this one, because there was no other way to do it

and here was my first double!

you could've gotten the top-right as a square early on

because it can only be O or T, and T is spoken for

I probably could have, a lot of logic I don't always realize until later :p

and then the I comes trivially

which then gives the S

and L and T are easy after

Yeah

bobble presents: solving puzzle off a picture, in his head

I go through these more slowly obviously :p

bobble also has to go again :(

see you!

Bye! <3

North let me know when you've posted your connect wall, I will take a break from grids to give it a shot!

I'm a genius

"Heya, North! So, a couple of weeks back, I went to go watch a WONDERFUL virtual concert- oh! it was just fantastic! Granted, some of the locations [needs improvement], but it was generally amazing because I could go anywhere without leaving my couch! Leave it to my some distant cousin to actually go to places. Always [spam[sic]] me with those puzzles. But instead of being [rude and abusive] to my cousin, I figured, I'll just [duplicate] what she does!"

LMAO

This is brilliant

10/10 flavortext

Posted

It's such good clickbait :P

Ooh, I like the flag choices!

Thank you~

Bottom-left-hand corner flag is one of my personal favorite flag designs :P

It's really pretty

I have to look it up because I haven't seen it before :D

Not much of a hint, and I don't think this one is as difficult, but just do know I am very much of nerd

Like a very specific type of trivia-y nerd

That's fair :p

But once you get the flags, you should be able to solve it somewhat simply

Eyyy exactly 4k

yay!

woahhh

North I have a question about the third flag, fourth row - is it meant to have unequal bands of color?

Definitely yes

Ah, okay. There was a flag that was similar but didn't have that feature, so figured I would ask

Yeah, I just noticed it

Has TSL just become "teach Sciborg how to solve various grid deduction puzzles"?

Among other things

...just a little bit

@HTM Also my rants

but now I'm solving them on my own!

Oh my god, that's terrible... what kinds of puzzles? ;-)

I learned Statue Parks so I am working my way through the big pack Deus gave me, on #11 :D

Dope, hope you're having a good time with them

They're really fun! I'm having a great time.

Ye, they're sneakily addictive once you get into them

Hm, I just realized something really funny on my puzzle

If you deduce one of the flags wrong, it fits in a category

Making a quick connect wall for the FTC right now before I head for dinner, it'll be sports themed

I was posting texts earlier from my very confused partner who is trying to figure out what the hell I've been doing all day.

North I have all the flags identified and one of the groups (I think) :D

@Sciborg Well, actually the wrong flag depends on which flag you use.

@Sciborg Nice!

hm?

@Sciborg Tell them someone "devious" had you under their control :)

@HTM Hehe

:p

I think I got that one flag I was stuck on, it's L----A right?

Yup

Awesome

I will say, you don't have to do that deep of a search through the internet for these. As in, you don't have to scroll through Wikipedia that much

I have to go (I'll be back)

Good luck on the puzzle!

See ya :D

Another +1 from me for flavortext & title alone

jafe should make a puzzle with all the gladyses

So far there are only 3 Gladys

I sense a Gladys Cinematic Universe

I am treating "Gladys" as a collective noun

hahahah

All of them carry puzzles around that they drop of random strangers

Coming in 2020: The Flag-Vengers

supervillain?

Hmmmm

Who would be Gladys's archnemesis?

@bobble they're the last line of defense in case PSE becomes inactive for a long time

a pandemic disease that stops all travel - oh, wait

I've got it. The plot follows the three Gladys and their mission to travel around the world, in search of the mysterious and elusive supervillain: The Mad Mapmaker.

do they make bad maps? why are they a villain?

They make grid puzzles that have multiple solutions.

THEY MUST BE PUNISHED

A true villain

They also make Riley Riddles that have extremely vague clues.

(also: when I referred to myself with the pronoun "his" earlier, I just go so incredibly giddy)

Pronouns are fun!

@Sciborg and respond to every unintended answer with "that's wrong, you're wrong"

i've actually been in a feminine mood today, which doesn't always happen to me

The supervillain's sidekick can be The Riley Riddler

The Rotten Riley Riddler?

Perfect

where each affix must be rot10 to get the actual affix

A true monster

wait, are we doing Boss Rush all over again?

Oh my god, we are

speaking of Mick's Things: bobblie updates?

I thought it was finished

It's finished, yup :)

ah right facepalm

We decided to name it Poofy

So Poofy is Squishy?

yes

I'm getting worried about the jump to Pentomino Nurikabe >< May make a double-tetromino to get more practice.

I'm enjoying double-tetrominos a ton, please do

and do you think you could solve it this time?

hopefully! :)

i solved it last time kinda! (slightly late but still!)

my creation method for that was placing the bottom diagonal numbers, and then placing numbers randomly above it, getting no solutions, cursing loudly in my head, trying to make a legal solution, then placing clues for that and iterating from there

It was surprisingly difficult to make a solution without any 2x2, due to shape constraints

They definitely seem hard to make

(most of my puzzles, somewhere in the creation process, induce cursing in my head)

same here

Hi Deus!! :D

I got to #11 while you were gone!

we struggled though a Statue Park together, 'borg and I

nice!

One of those was definitely a team Bobble-Borg effort

ooh you're coming up to 12, which is one of my favorites

The double tetros are my favorite so far, they are so much fun to solve :D

And none of this would've happened had I not blindly assumed you could solve my Tetromino Nurikabe at post time :)

Yup! Lol

you were like "beat deus!" and i was like "HUH"

and then you got addicted

and there is no hope for you now

Partner is extremely concerned, yes

you will never be able to wean yourself off the puzzles

and bobble leaves on that note

Seeya :)

North, I'm stuck on your puzzle at the moment, am extremely confident in my Group #1 but the other ones are not solidifying yet

Unless that group is just a massive coincidence, but it's so specific that I feel like it must be intended

@bobble hmm

@bobble THanks!

@Sciborg Hm okay

Urg. I keep getting rnadom downvotes

At this point, I just expect a -1 on my post for no random reason

And the thing is, it's not like other posts are getting downvotes

I feel like there's been a serial drive-by downvoter on Puzzling lately - a majority of the puzzles on the Newest page right now have -1, most of them for seemingly no reason.

Couldn't figure out the other groups in the flag wall, but I gave it a good try :p

I'm stuck on figuring out the groups as well

oAlt, did you have rot13(zrzoref bs gur Pbzzbajrnygu bs Angvbaf) for one of your groups?

@Sciborg Maybe it's the The Mad Mapmaker!

Of course!

I got a random upvote on the Bomber Maze - I guess people are just finding it?

This brings my [mazes] rep to 1030

nope @Sciborg and I think I've given up on this for now too :P

more requirements are headed my way

Yeah :( I gave it a good shot though!

Why do I feel like everything I do is so niche?

Maybe you can solve Knockoff Gladys's next puzzle, then :)

Ooh, I would love to!

I'm trying to write proper flavortext as of right now

@Sciborg Aw, you didn't even solve my favorite category!

Countries are hard because there are so many ways they could be sorted - feels like there's 100 categories I have to think about

I try to make at least 2 categories extremely obvious, so the rest are easier