The Sphinx's Lair

12:03 AM

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Clues: type of Indian cows; what's done to money; needs a good groom; more than deserved; needs a good groom. Construct the word square! (I created it myself; hoping the above is enough info to solve it.)

Sphinx

12:38 AM

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Q: Guess a common 5-letter word!

Something with a very low pH, though not alive, I evolve as I age. My grandfather was used in building; My father, though smaller, was ground-breaking. Though I'm smarter, I'm not much safer, for sometimes I'm crashing and burning Please comment on how to improve! This may b...

riddle word lateral-thinking rhyme

stacksfiller

12:56 AM

have you guys heard brainstorm/green needle?

that's some serious craziness

I've realized you can present it as a magic trick

ask someone to pick of one and think of it, and then you'll play the audio clip corresponding to the one they're thinking of

works good, but would be better if it were less contrived words

I do not understand at all how it works though, so i cant really try to construct a better one

Brainstorm or Green Needle?

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here's it for context if you haven't seen it

(and in case it doesn't work for you, many people always hear the one they think of)

Eric Tressler

That illusion has been well-known for a long time. Stairway to heaven backwards, for instance.

There's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGurk_effect, which is triggered by a visual (some youtube videos of that too)

Or you can just read through en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_illusion

I guess there's also this article about exactly the same thing (a different clip, though) from a few weeks ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanny_or_Laurel I can't find a specific name, but it's just generally that if you're primed to expect to hear something in a noisy signal, you can hear it.

stacksfiller

welp

still, the facct its been known for a while doesn't make it any less cool cause I haven't known about it for a while!

do you have any other good example? (in audio form)

Eric Tressler

1:14 AM

No, I imagine most of the famous ones are linked from the "auditory illusion" page. I've spent a lot more time reading about visual illusions. There was a good TED talk about those.

youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 is about the McGurk Effect

I expect that the illusion you linked is similar, except instead of visuals overriding audio, it's the thought of a specific phrase

stacksfiller

yeah seems very different to me tho

like

you couldn't really present that one as a magic trick

i'm not even sure it HAS been well-known for a long time

I haven't seen any other examples of it

phenomist

oh i've seen the ba/fa thing

and yea, the addition of visuals makes that less impressive

ffao

doesn't work for me, I only hear green needle

phenomist

i was able to hear (brain|green)(storm|needle)

Eric Tressler

@stacksfiller the stairway to heaven backwards thing is similar; if you don't read anything and just listen to it, it sounds like nonsense. Then if you read the "lyrics", suddenly that's the only version you can hear

ffao

1:21 AM

of course this phenomenon is well-known to everyone since they as a child misheard the lyrics to a song and sang it wrong for 10 years before realizing

Eric Tressler

Anyway, I guess if you want to draw the line distinguishing this from that, then maybe it is new.

phenomist

but yea misheard lyrics are definitely not new

stacksfiller

ok yes that's a good point ffao

you can change what you hear just by thinking about it

if the mishearing is reasonably good

but it's nothing on the scale of brainstorm / green needle because they're so different said aloud

they don't share a lot of letters!

I don't understand where the s comes from!

(I always hear "What are you waiting for? Say goodbye to my heart tonight")

wait is that the real lyrics

ffao

what the hell, I just heard brainstorm

stacksfiller

oh lol

ffao

1:25 AM

this is freaky

stacksfiller

it changes in the official lyrics from "take a bite" and "say goodbye" but they sound the same omg

why

im so confused

Deusovi

the brain/green part is easy to understand. but the rest took me a while

stacksfiller

I did genuinely do is as a magic trick for someone

Deusovi

it's actually something like this:

BRAIN S--TR
GREEN EEDL

stacksfiller

and I "guessed" 9/10 times correctly what they were thinking

they thought it was like a pattern thing

Deusovi

1:29 AM

and we fill in the gaps

the weirdest part is the S/E sound to me

ha, nice

stacksfiller

I want to try it on others

Sphinx

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Q: can someone help me?

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cipher

stacksfiller

but if they always hear one -- like some do -- it will be awkward

"why are you always guessing the same one?"

haha

ffao

1:50 AM

listening on slow, I agree with Deus -- the speakers are saying brain storm but there is some sort of static high pitched noise at the time of the ST-

that sounds a lot like EE

so it depends on if you're focusing on the high sound or the low voice

same as the Yanni/Laurel thing -- a combination of a very low voice + very bad speakers

phenomist

interesting, it's possible to hear "yanny" even in the original source (which presumably has the highest fidelity)

stacksfiller

Oh here's another example of it

BILL BILL BILL BILL BALE BALE PALE PAIL MAYO

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ffao

in the viral recording I can only hear yanny

stacksfiller

It does use visual, but it's not needed

ffao

in the original source I can switch depending on which I want to hear

stacksfiller

2:02 AM

just to make you think of the specific word

ManyPinkHats

2:34 AM

@EricTressler Y[OwinG]URT

North

@stacksfiller works well

Sorry couldn't stop myself

Like my fingers just automatically typed

Eric Tressler

@ManyPinkHats that's it!

North

:4474120 Honestly I had Larry when I first heard it

ManyPinkHats

in honour of the recent chat

CCCC: Strong associate of Laurel (5)

Eric Tressler

2:49 AM

@ManyPinkHats HARDY

ManyPinkHats

Yup

North

Codenamed or contact anyone?

ManyPinkHats

I'm always down for Contact

North

I'll be in Contact if anyone wants to play

Call to arms:

in Contact, 45 secs ago, by Eric Tressler

Eric is defending P

Eric Tressler

5:43 AM

CCCC: "Golden Ring"'s decline imminent, by the sound of it. (8)

Sphinx

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Q: Find the missing number using calculation in the graph

Which number will replace the question mark in given graph?

mathematics pattern calculation-puzzle

Mithrandir

7:31 AM

@gareth puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/49437/roberndsan puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/49412/johnsdlsan puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/49405/dujei

ASCII-only

@Mithrandir :| why do they keep showing up

Mithrandir

they get paid to do it

ASCII-only

who even clicks on the ads from Puzzling.SE though

Mithrandir

Clicks aren't what's important.

Gareth McCaughan

8:25 AM

@Mithrandir Gone, gone, and gone.

Sphinx

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Q: A man was born in 1881 and died in 1883, yet he was 90. How?

A man was born in 1881 and died in 1883, yet he was 90. How it is possible?

lateral-thinking

boboquack

9:00 AM

^ don't think that's a duplicate

ffao

9:14 AM

then it's too broad because the other question's answer still applies

won't bother reopening just to close again

Sphinx

10:06 AM

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Q: Solve the puzzle to complete the sequence

Solve the puzzle with the logic, what should the missing number in the last sequence

number-sequence

Sphinx

12:54 PM

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Q: Why is this the cause of the dread brewing in my stomach?

What do they have in common? It’s the beginning of a new future. Discard trivialities and you’ll reach what’s perpetually yet to come. Tomato and the mouse’s nemesis Nor is it an connecting option that Crows go gently down the stream. Another treat: Silencing pastry marks the begin...

riddle enigmatic-puzzle

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Q: How I'm paying off my student loans

I've got this QR code that is very important to me, but my stupid cousin was carrying it around with him and dropped and broke it. He tried to hide this from me using tape and Elmer's glue and got it back together, but it doesn't work now. Can you help?

visual

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Q: Is it the crown that makes the king or, is it his throne?

This puzzle is quite literal so, rather than keeping it boring I dressed it up a little. /* _\|/_ (o o) +----oOO-{_}-OOo------------------------------------------+ |Is it the crown that makes the king or, is it his throne?| +-----------------------------------------------------...

riddle trivia

Eric Tressler

1:09 PM

C4 early hint: This is not in the dictionary

Sphinx

2:33 PM

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Q: A brief int counter

The following infinite sequence is used by those taking first steps in maths. 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4, 5, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ? Find the next number.

number-sequence english

Sphinx

4:30 PM

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Q: I’m friend with a song

I’m friend with a song, we both come along, with joy and celebrations I love my tattoo, my dancing cane too, I speak across all nations I take part in games, and sometimes in flames, I’m different from all the rest I see you were brave, I’ll visit your grave, remembered by generations ...

riddle rhyme

Sphinx

5:02 PM

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Q: A party of jealous guys

I was really happy for the fact that I won the inter-galatic best magician award. So I decided to throw a party of $n$ people (excluding me). The people who came to that party was jealous, really jealous of each other. Some people were not jealous of each other, but some - if not most - people,...

mathematics graph-theory

Sid

6:14 PM

Does Mod-hammering also apply to reopening questions?

Dragonrage

@Sid yes, a mod voting to reopen will do so with a hammer

Sphinx

6:54 PM

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Q: Tiling a rectangle with just the Y pentomino

Inspired by this question series, which was inspired by this question. They give rise to beautiful pictures (at least in the eye of the beholder mathematician) and some nice generalizable solutions. Together, they make eight questions of the type 'take a pentomino and some rectangle-shaped tiles...

geometry no-computers tiling polyomino

Mithrandir

9:05 PM

I'm pretty sure I'm allergic to tomatoes.

Which is bad, because I like tomatoes.

Puzzling Meta

10:09 PM

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Q: My trivia is too broad?

Is it the crown that makes the king or, is it his throne? I do not understand how a question with a specific answer can be too broad? Admittedly, the answerers so far have guessed or, used inaccurate reference material or material upon which their own inferences have been incorrect. If there w...

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