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12:09 AM
You got that in search results I take it. I'd guess it tried to intelligently deal with Mathjax formatting and got things badly wrong.
@boboquack multi line text doesn't parse markdown. I'd guess that's what happened here.
 
@boboquack where pls link ty?
 
@ffao my level 0 hints are perfectly useful and helpful. It just takes other hints before you realize why. Usually. :)
 
@ASCII-only this one
 
@boboquack I've seen stuff from the leaping sets (before your hint, which I think is what you're hinting at), but didn't post anything because I don't see how it links to the meta puzzle, which makes me think I'm missing something...
I'll update my answer and see if it triggers anyone else... (after I double check my maths to make sure I'm not missing something stupid/obvious)
 
Yeah, the extraction isn't necessarily obvious
@Alconja You can update the answer and have me check the maths
 
12:29 AM
Minor issue: I'm just re-looking at it now, and I've forgotten what I had done to get what I got (tried so many random things, and have a txt file full of seemingly random numbers)... :) I'm sure it'll come back to me.
 
why...?
why does that happen
 
12:45 AM
@stacksfiller ?
 
11/19/27
12/23/34
11/17/23
22/25/28
I might be onto something :P (probably not)
 
@boboquack ahh, so this turns out to be due to the vagaries of parsing when it's got just snippets of the MathJax code. It was trying to highlight a "0" that happens to be in part of the formatting code, because you searched for "level 0" and that zero is something it thought you'd care about. The surrounding text happens to follow the 0 with a } and a newline, and then:
  \begin{array}{cc}\Pad\T&\NT\\\end{array}}}}\atop\def\V
which is just enough to make the page parser to try to format that as MathJax, but at that point it doesn't have the macros defined, so the text there get displayed as array components - but as unexpanded red macro tags because they're unknown.
 
1:11 AM
 5 11 19 27  29  37  65  81       6  8  8  2  8 28 16
12 21 23 34  76  89  90  98       9  2 11 42 13  1  8
 2  8 10 11  16  17  23  47 63    6  2  1  5  1  6 24 16
 2  6  8 11  22  23  25  26 28    4  2  3 11  1  2  1  2
 2  7 18 19  35  48  52  66 90    5 11  1 16 13  4 14 24
12 21 24 27  39  72  78  87 93    9  3  3 12 33  6  9  6
15 25 35 40  75  95 100 120      10 10  5 35 20  5 20
12 18 21 41  61  91 100 162       6  2 20 20 30  9 62
21 28 35 91 119 126 140           7  7 56 28  7 14

KLKVRUOUU
Okay that's either ciphered, or I extracted wrong
49 mins ago, by boboquack
Yeah, the extraction isn't necessarily obvious
 
There is the somewhat hint that they are (un)ordered.
 
The differences give HKFCQCJTG
@Apep Yes, in my solution order doesn't matter but it helps
 
@boboquack Sorry, already scrubbed most of it... and what I do have left I've double checked and doesn't actually work for all sets :(
 
@ASCII-only you extracted wrong
 
Yes :P
 
1:20 AM
@ASCII-only you extracted wrong again
:P
 
I know :P
Hmm, does it involve wrapping? i.e. 27 would be A?
 
@ASCII-only no, that would be mean
 
@boboquack just making sure you didn't intentionally make it mean :P
 
(also, try to find the antipattern)
 
Time to look for the most obscure extraction method then I guess
 
1:26 AM
@Rubio sorry I should specifiy
Talking about all the sports related acounts
why are there so many always being made
 
@boboquack Wait, all of the Not ones have a different pattern (not just a lack of pattern?)
 
can something be done about that besides just individually finding each one
is it like a random spam attack or something
 
yea whats up with that
 
puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/40691/jaim2017 looks suspicious, many of the sporty profile names match \w*(20)?17
@stacksfiller we could probably train an offspring of Charcoal
@ASCII-only yes (other people have found that already)
Yay, nice views
 
1:35 AM
CAESAREAN
 
@ffao correct!
 
take the letter that you'd get from an extra leap
 
Oh :|
 
The property looks much simpler than it is to spot in a set of a bunch of mostly random numbers
 
@ffao Pls explain in english ty
 
1:39 AM
it seems to be really easy to notice the property when you know what the property is, which I guess is why bobo thought no one was trying
in reality it's actually difficult
 
@ffao no, I knew that one would be quite tricky. I just expected people to discuss it more.
 
Right :P yeah I had to use hint 1 to get it
I mean I knew leaping = differences, but seeing that Mea Culpa Nay's answer was close but not correct gave me enough information to narrow it down :P
 
all this talking of leaping and bunny hopping reminds me of A Letter to the Past
 
so just square numbers left I guess
 
@ASCII-only and not leaping sets and not square numbers
 
1:42 AM
@boboquack But you said other people have found Not Square Numbers :/
Oh wait.
There's two words per puzzle
 
whats the answer to squares?
 
@stacksfiller Nobody's done it yet
 
oh whoops misread
 
Yes:
 5 11 19 27  29  37  65  81       6  8  8  2  8 28 16
12 21 23 34  76  89  90  98       9  2 11 42 13  1  8
 2  8 10 11  16  17  23  47 63    6  2  1  5  1  6 24 16
 2  6  8 11  22  23  25  26 28    4  2  3 11  1  2  1  2
 2  7 18 19  35  48  52  66 90    5 11  1 16 13  4 14 24
12 21 24 27  39  72  78  87 93    9  3  3 12 33  6  9  6
15 25 35 40  75  95 100 120      10 10  5 35 20  5 20
12 18 21 41  61  91 100 162       6  2 20 20 30  9 62
21 28 35 91 119 126 140           7  7 56 28  7 14
Yay wall of text
I think I'm doing Not Leaping Setsā„¢ wrong :( oh well
 
I thought it might be that the differences would be x and 2x instead of x and x, but this given more than one possible triplet in the first non leaping sets
 
1:52 AM
Ooh, another part was found?
 
what were you trying? I don't get the table
yes Deus, Leaping Sets have three elements for which the middle one is the average of the other two
 
@ffao Which table :P
 
your jumble of numbers above :P
 
the table is successive differences. not-leaping sets have a pattern A B A on the third successive difference, which probably has a nicer interpretation
 
@Deusovi Doesn't seem to be, one set has none of those and three have two
 
1:55 AM
I don't understand why you just stopped with one set
 
Hmm?
 
unless I'm misunderstanding the table, that is
Each sequence in a row is the successive differences of the previous one, right?
 
Nope
The second table only
 
wait, no. I just assumed it was
oh, I think I get it then
 
Second differences for either one would be include negatives so I didn't do those
 
1:56 AM
they're successive differences skipping n-2 elements? (except the first sequence in each row obviously, which is the original)
anyway, @ASCII-only, why didn't you continue with one row?
 
2:12 AM
@boboquack is fine. others nuked.
I'm glad these spammers let me keep abreast of upcoming events of high popular interest.
 
@Deusovi Nope, they're me trying to find a pattern
 
seems like CCCC should be P(ER(C)E)PTION or P(ER(C)E)IVING but i don't know how to get the outside
ERE being "earlier" and C being "primarily certain" and def being "feeling"
i am sketched out by the note he added though maybe also overanalyzing it
 
you lot should really stop overanalyzing notes that aren't meant to be hints :P
 
thats our type though
overanalytical
sometimes not even very ytical
 
pff
 
2:44 AM
Has anyone found the property of Not Double Jump Wordsā„¢ yet?
nvm, found it
[db][np][om][rt][su][sq][tv][bd][us][hj][np][mo]
IDK how to extract though
 
take the middle letter
it was already found tho
 
Oh
@stacksfiller Right, just couldn't find the existing one >_>
 
3:05 AM
Not Leaping Setsā„¢ should be pretty obvious since Leaping Setsā„¢ are known now
Apparently someone has already found it too but I can't find that
@stacksfiller Oh :| how could I miss that
 
@ASCII-only I haven't seen that yet
 
2 hours ago, by ASCII-only
@boboquack Wait, all of the Not ones have a different pattern (not just a lack of pattern?)
Oh you meant the other Not puzzles/the fact that they exist
:D Carmeister found it
So the probable info we have on Square numbers:
numbers involved in it are relatively small so a number related to them can be used to index into the alphabet
square is most likely n**2

They probably have nothing to do with:
Digital sum
Squares of substrings
about the CCCC: unworldly enthusiasm seems so much like (NUSISM)* -R (IDK what the -R would do though)
 
gah, I swear I tried geometric progressions but the fractional ratio threw me off
I'm failing so bad at that puzzle u.u
 
@ffao haha I put that in because I knew someone would trip up at that
 
but... that's mean
I thought you were nice
 
3:18 AM
Nice? Me?
 
2 hours ago, by boboquack
@ASCII-only no, that would be mean
 
@ASCII-only but that's counterintuitive. There's a difference.
The alphabet has 26 letters. But r in a geometric sequence isn't defined to be integral.
 
@boboquack :P i know
@ASCII-only Also nothing to do with the shape, or factors
 
With 80% of the subpuzzles, you should be able to start working on the metapuzzle
 
yeah, that's what I was just doing
 
3:28 AM
I want to finish the subpuzzles first :P
 
@boboquack Yeah, the Not Square Numbers will give *TI*TI*
 
but we could backsolve some of the subpuzzles
 
Reverse engineering Backsolving the final 20% is just cheating
 
@Alconja ah, REPETITION
 
Not so sure about the Square Numbers, given that AIRCRAFT breaks the obvious rule
 
3:29 AM
@Alconja which is?
 
*XY*YX*
cAEsarEAn, anTIquITy, poYTonaliTY
 
nope, it's fine
RCR
CREATIVITY
 
Ahh. overlap. duh
 
yay!
 
O_o that was fast
 
3:31 AM
Pity numbers suck so much :P
 
Anyone want to edit that in?
@Alconja Yeah well there's that extra layer of extraction especially
And the fact that you need arithmetic :P
 
yes, we got that
@boboquack - calling in VINDICTIVE for Square Numbers?
 
oh how could I not see that
 
Or divisively
 
@Deusovi yep
 
3:33 AM
woo! backsolving is fun
 
do you know why?
 
not a clue!
VINDICTIVE and DIVISIVELY were the only two reasonable words that worked, and the former seemed more likely
like I said, backsolving is fun :P
for the *AB*BA* ones, is there any indication which to take?
 
@Deusovi unfortunately no, I was going to put a star or something on some puzzles but forgot to when I posted it
It would have been fairly obvious when you tried it anyway
 
yeah, it wasn't difficult
the word obviously didn't start or end with RC or YT
 
@somebody not quite
 
3:39 AM
wow that's super nice
CREA[TI]V[IT]Y and REPE[TI][TI]ON
 
@boboquack .-. fixed but I think I explained it terribly
 
yeah, it is
I'm working on editing the post with an explanation.
(and REPETITION has the added bonus of being thematically linked to the extraction method)
(not a hard meta, but props for how well the theme worked)
 
@Deusovi which I (kinda?) mentioned
Also.
 
also?
 
We can now conclude that TI is in every puzzle :P
 
3:42 AM
@ASCII-only huh?
 
See stacksfiller's message :P
 
oh, yes. I liked how well it came out
 
Actually IVI would be valid too for CREATIVITY
 
that just means it's doubly-creative
 
VINDICTIVE -> 22  9 14  4  9  3 20  9 22  5
If that helps at all
 
3:46 AM
I'm doing a major rewrite of the CW answer - condensing each set of spoilers into one, for instance
 
That's a good idea :P there are way too many spoilers right now
too bad SE has no inline spoilers
 
@ASCII-only MathJax coloured white
 
@boboquack :/ I guess that kinda works but then it's way harder to reveal isn't it
Like you actually have to select the text :P
 
@ASCII-only Actually, I'll link you to an exemplary example of inline spoilers
62
Q: The Puzzling Times

Rubio$$\bbox[orange]{\begin{array}{rcl}\\\hline\huge\ \ \star\ \ \star\ \ The&\huge{Puzzling}&\huge{Times\ \ \star\ \ \star\ \ }\\\hline\\\end{array}}$$   Vol. 4, No. 1 $\raise 2pt \tt{\large{\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ MONDAY,\ JANUARY\ 9^{th},\ 2017\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ }}$ Price: On...

 
CW answer edited.
The missing answer is probably one of the following:
activating activation activities antiaditis antibiotic antiseptic antistatic antithetic appetition appetitive artistical astigmatic dentitions dermatitis dietitians docetistic donatistic entitative estimating estimation estimative estivating estivation etiolating etiolation extinction extinctive factitious
fictitious futilities identities inartistic initiating initiation initiative intimating intimation intinction justintime latitation litigating litigation mitigating mitigation mitigative motivating motivation mutilating mutilation nativistic nativities nepotistic optimistic partitions par
...It's going to be slightly harder to backsolve that one.
 
3:51 AM
I'd say it's a pretty common word so 90% of them aren't possibilities
 
@Deusovi you can probably eliminate one option off the bat
 
Plus it's way easier forward normal-solving from Square Numbersā„¢ :P
 
Did you use Qat? I did
 
Yeah.
@boboquack And yeah, I can eliminate TICKETING.
 
@Deusovi actually, two options then
 
3:53 AM
Oh. And REPETITION, of course.
 
URTICATION as well
 
(And REPETITIVE too, probably.)
 
@Deusovi How do you get Qat to limit to a specific length?
 
@ASCII-only That still leaves a lot of options, unfortunately. Too many to call in over and over.
 
@Deusovi Yeah, so don't backsolve that one :P
 
3:54 AM
10: *ti*ti* &! *ing
 
@Apep how do you know I haven't got serious allergies?
 
(removed "ing" because I don't think Bobo would use two words ending in TING)
 
Oh, didn't realise you could do the 10: bit :\
 
yup! you can also do 10-:, -10: or 7-10: if you want ranges of lengths
 
Can you use it with the partial word stuff... eg 10:AB;A;B; doesn't work for me...
 
3:58 AM
you can do that with |AB|=10 ; AB ; A ; B
 
AB;A;B;|AB|=10
yeah, that
 
howdy folks
I see some, er, interesting puzzling conversation has been happening. :)
 
Yeah, got that far, but how about when I want AxB;A;B; etc, for some x
 
AxB;A;B;|AB|=9
 
and when x is non-deterministic length?
 
4:00 AM
not sure if you can do that, unfortunately
 
ACB ; A ; B ; |ACB|=10
 
oh, you don't care what x is at all
then yeah, Rubio's thing works
 
Can I then define C = a*b, or whatever though?
 
that will require A, B, and ACB to be words, but C needn't be one itself
 
But how do I give rules to C
 
4:01 AM
yes, you can C=a*b
there are limits to how you can express a rule for C though
 
Huh... thought I'd tried that, will try again
Unless I hit one of the limits
 
Ah, these are for the missing not- meta. In that case, all of them containing ITI should be excluded, perhaps. Otherwise, they would qualify for the other meta.
 
Or IT.
activation antibiotic antiseptic antistatic artistical astigmatic docetistic donatistic estimation estimative estivation etiolation extinction extinctive inartistic intimation intinction justintime motivation mutilation nativistic nepotistic optimistic patination pentimenti quietistic statistics stigmatics stigmatise stigmatism stigmatist stigmatize stiltiness stintingly subtilties tidivation tightishly timocratic unartistic urtication
(again, I've removed the -ing ones)
that's a more reasonable number, but still not enough to backsolve without angering bobo
 
this rule: A; B; ACB ; |ACB|=10 ; C=e*t
gives this as one of its possibilities, for example: tins own tins·elt·own elt
 
had it been an automatic answer checker, this would be the point where it'd be worth it to try all of them
 
4:04 AM
Why is hoooo a word in qat's dictionary?
 
because it's a word
 
I'm pretty sure it's not a word
 
Japanese phoenix, more commonly romanized as houou
it is a word
 
oh
 
someone suggested it as an answer to the highest-proportion-of-a-single-letter-in-a-word puzzle, in fact
 
...yes, and it's also where "Ho-Oh", the pokémon name, comes from
 
@Deusovi Which is why I linked it :P
 
Is this one of those words which comes up in crosswords a lot just because it's good for filling gaps?
 
nah, I haven't seen it in crosswords yet
 
4:07 AM
I would be surprised if it was actually useful for filling gaps
 
typically "crosswordese" words are 3 or 4 letters, not 5
 
@Rubio if you've got a lot of o's in a row
 
.... then you've made a very odd crossword. ;)
 
if so, you've likely placed some 3 or 4 letter words before a 5-letter word, and those are easier to change typically
@Rubio um, excuse you, crosswords with a lot of one letter in some entries are perfectly legitimate
 
Well, sure, but - not two. ;)
 
4:10 AM
(now I can just see Deus going to make a Christmas themed crossword with entries such as hoooo, ooh and hohoho)
 
@boboquack *with o as the only vowel
 
@ASCII-only and h the only consonant
 
nah, that crossword was a one-time thing
I am tempted now that you mention it, but clue writing would be even harder
 
I was going to toss down the challenge gauntlet but then realized how awful it'd be to come up with more than a small handful of interesting clues, and decided to skip it
 
A Reckless Disregard was hard enough
there are some clues where you can clearly tell I ran out of ideas
 
4:15 AM
@Rubio It could be like a cryptic showcase :P
 
a 9x9 might be practical, but not much larger
@ASCII-only oh dear god no.
 
OH would need to be a mini or it'd be too hard
 
Making cryptics around that would be a nightmare
 
"winning tic-tac-toe combination"
"expression of surprise from a stereotypical British gentleman"
"water's chemical structure"
that's all I've got for semi-entertaining clues
besides the already mentioned OOH, HO-OH, HOOOO, and HOHOHO
 
"Yoo-___"
 
4:20 AM
Water, maybe? HOH
oh you have that nvm
so yeah it'd be a grind beyond that first handful
 
Probably easier if you allow some two-letters
 
"Ding Dong alternative" heh
ok I'm stopping now
 
@Rubio even worse than A Reckless Disregard, since there's probably no easy questionably-reliable Wikipedia list
 
"Sound in a haunted house"
 
Going a step further than a few aforementioned: "Stereotypical ojou-sama laugh"
 
4:27 AM
I know half of those words
 
I know 3/4 of those words
 
well ok I do too but half is funnier
 
I know two thirds of those words
 
(apparently if you Google image search OHOHOHO you get exactly what I envisioned)
 
my wordlist thinks these are all valid: H Hoo O h ho hoh hoho hoo o oh oho oo ooh oooo
 
4:29 AM
not hoooo or hohoho?
 
it's not the greatest list. :)
 
Qat allows these:
h o hh ho oh oo hoh hoo oho ooh hoho oooo hoooo
 
'ooo' as out-of-office (or -order) would work too
 
I think if you allow yourself a few extra letters to spell a message that might work
 
it might, but it'd be annoying
 
4:32 AM
"Australian emergency number, sounded out"
 
relevant (?!): hooooooooo.com (probably don't want to click that at work because that would be really, really, annoying) --edited for better accuracy
 
What's that, "Intro to Doctor Who's theme song"?
 
@Rubio It's one of the websites included here
 
@Sp3000 no, that would be here
 
On the lines of water, I guess you can do hydrogen peroxide too
 
4:35 AM
@ASCII-only lol. that's entirely fitting.
 
@ASCII-only I just got endless.horse. I have no idea why I find that site so funny
 
or a hydroxyl group, or alternatively as an alcohol clue ...
 
"View of a nebula"
 
hah. endless horse is brilliant in its idiocy. I love it
 
@Rubio I'd say that would be better as a Pokemon clue
 
4:37 AM
@Rubio from the source:
 
"2017 Sukhbir song" (probably plenty like this, but all annoyingly obscure though)
 
" endless.horse
Colleen Josephson and Kyle Miller, 2015
Created during the West Coast Stupid Shit No One Needs & Terrible Ideas Hackathon"
 
hah!
 
One of humn's puzzles had oooOOOOooOOOooooO or something like that
 
the things there are hilarious
"Outcognito Mode is a Chrome extension that publicly tweets every website you visit and everything you type."
 
4:39 AM
oh my.
 
"Fireplace: A virtual reality experience of looking at a fireplace on TV"
"Shakie: Camera app that only takes pictures when the phone is vigorously shaken."
 
I remember the one that randomly orders you an Uber and lunch somewhere random, that looked fun (?)
 
uselessweb took me to weirdorconfusing.com which in turn took me to amazon.com/CTA-Digital-Pedestal-Stand-Holder/dp/B00AQT653G/… which ... I'm still shaking my head over
 
"Holdr by Sam Tarakajian is an iPhone app that tells you if you are currently holding your phone."
 
^ welp that seems helpful
 
4:40 AM
"Adventure Time land"
"Queen-side castling notation"
Probably enough of the answer though, much easier than the others
 
13
Q: A set of lockers

MinusReputationThere is a series of 100 lockers in a school. All of them start closed. Students number 1 to 100 flip an even, two sided coin. If the coin lands on heads, they go through each locker corresponding to their number's multiple and opens it. If it is already open, the student closes the locker. If...

It is.
 
iloveyoulikeafatladylovesapples.com is bizarre on a number of levels.
 
Ugh, and they had to pick that team.
 
@Deusovi that question is more interesting and has more conditions
 
5:06 AM
Oh, whoops. Wrong one, hold on.
 
there's been a whole crap-ton of spam users created in the last two days. it's getting ridiculous.
 
9
Q: Nerds, Jocks, and Lockers

KeithSHere's an oldie but goodie from The Daily WTF; I paraphrase to avoid copyright issues: A middle school math teacher, who also happened to be the P.E. coach, made the following deal with the non-athletic "nerds" in each new math class he taught on their first day: Outside the classroom ...

That one.
 
@Rubio I have no idea why they even chose Puzzling of all sites.
 
it is quite puzzling.
 
pff
 
5:08 AM
(someone had to...)
 
"What Is a Spammer-Targeted Siteā„¢?"
 
-3
Q: Variation of 100 coins puzzle with turning coin every tim

Narayan GvrThere was a table in a room and there were 100 coins(coin 1 to 100) in a row on the table. All the coins were heads up initially. You entered the room and turned all the coins, the second time you entered the room and turned every 2nd coin(coin 2, coin 4,...), the 3rd time you entered the room a...

 
Ask Different, Graphic Design, and Astronomy get a lot more actual spam posts (but I suspect that it would be less if they preemptively nuked users).
 
I love the "type 1 for .... type 2 for ...."
talk about utter failure to even try to tailor a puzzle for where you're asking it
 
yeah, I know
it's hilarious
it's blatantly obvious that it's copied from somewhere, probably homework
 
5:13 AM
it took me a minute to understand what the types were
 
 
2 hours later…
7:04 AM
member - does anybody else think it might be a PSE member?
 
7:29 AM
Huh?
 
Oops, I meant for the c4
 
Sid
7:55 AM
@Wen1now yep. Didn't have too much success though
@boboquack Nice puzzle. That extraction was cute.
 
agree on the niceness, still not done though
we need those square numbers
I'd give a 24h hint for the 4c when I wake up, but I don't know what to say :P
 

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