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4:00 PM
hah :)
 
Recruiter!
 
this is spetsnaz?
I don't think I do either.
 
Welp.
 
lol really?
 
I'm pretty sure I've seen the word before and probably knew it once, but not any more.
 
4:00 PM
I would've expected you to know that
 
@dcfyj Hey, we're down 5-3 on team members.
 
I know
 
I... sigh
 
@n_palum You... are out of luck lol
 
My guess is that if someone tells me the definition I'll go "oh, yeah, I have heard that before", but not "oh yes, how could I have forgotten?".
 
4:01 PM
This might be where Fun Game Theory breaks out. When there aren't enough players to fill the playground.
Rules must bend.
 
@GarethMcCaughan Remind me after the game
 
Sid
@Rubio how has that clue lasted so long?
BIG+OT
 
Oh.
I'm not sure a bigot is really a hypocrite.
But I think you're right.
 
bigot != hypocrite
but yeah, it's gotta be right
 
Sid
Eh, I think it's close enough..
 
4:06 PM
It seems like it fits
 
Sid
@TheGreatEscaper oh, you are back!
 
it's BIGOT
 
@Sid that does appear to be the case, yes :)
 
which means hypocrite, though that meaning is (Obs)
Bigot \Big"ot\, n.
1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]
 
oh yeah, so it does (so saith the OED)
nice one, then
 
4:10 PM
Sid's up
 
Oh, Gareth, you began as a thorn in my side, then proved to be a feather to tickle my hide. ...unnecessary, but what ?...
^ worth deleting, but honest ^
 
Sid
Does anyone have a clue ready?
@TheGreatEscaper how was Brazil btw?
 
@Sid You need to be setting a clue...
 
@Sid it was great :)
Met loads of cool people
Even saw @Ankoganit a few brief times
 
Sid
@GarethMcCaughan okay okay.. got a funny one which makes no sense...
CCCC: The Beatles with charms became robbers (7)
 
4:21 PM
I assume it's BANDITS but not seeing why ITS = charms
 
BANDITS
oops, just got beaten
 
Clash of the titans!
 
Sid
That's the part I was unhappy about. More like "the It factor" as it is called=charm
 
not sure that can be pluralized
 
Oh no I was about to explain that Sid :(
 
4:23 PM
^^
 
The clue can still work: the Beatles, with charm, became robbers
?
 
@TheGreatEscaper Then where does the S come from in the wordplay?
 
Oh... yeah
 
details, details ... :)
 
Sid
Yeah, well.. It was too funny to let it go.
 
4:25 PM
Regardless, did Beatles ever have a song named "Bandits"?
Monty Python had "Time Bandits"
 
Sid
Well, if I search extensively in Google, maybe I will get a couple of sites that might show the pluralised version
 
CCCC: Map features parties around Oregon. (7)
 
FORESTS
 
of course
 
yay I got one
 
Explanation?
 
F(OR)ESTS. It's a weird definition but it seems to fit.
 
Ahh
 
Fests are forests where the "Or is gone". :)
 
Heard of Oregon Pine?
 
4:31 PM
@dcfyj This is your reminder.
 
I only forgot that Oregonwas OR
 
(But I already looked up Spetsnaz.)
 
Sid
Are we on a record today? Max clues solved in a day was 22,I think
 
Oregon Pine is known by all kinds of faultonyms.
 
Let's keep it going
 
4:33 PM
@MikeQ, you're up
 
Yes, I know, I'm working on it
 
nowhere near 22 today, I don't think.
 
Except me ^
 
@MikeQ Why is it a weird definition?
 
4:35 PM
If someone asked "What is a forest?", responding "It's a map feature" is kind of a strange response
 
That's not so unusual for cryptic clue defs.
 
Yeah. Or regular crossword defs for that matter.
 
Sid
Oh,plum, it's your birthday? Happy Birthday?
 
Thanks?
 
We have to get 22 cryptics in today for @n_palum
and then we can go one more for the record, and ... er ... just pretend we stopped at 22
 
4:37 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Spetznaz Russian special forces
 
"What is a bigot? A hypocrite." Nope. "What is Bloody Mary? A spirit in a glass." Nope. "What is a mynah? A thing whose song might imitate." Nope. Those are just from other C4s today.
 
CCCC: Polaris get on relative right (9)
 
@dcfyj Yup, I looked it up.
 
@GarethMcCaughan I mean, I think "a spirit in a glass" is fine
 
Oh, it's OK, but it's not a thing anyone would actually say.
 
4:38 PM
True.
 
You probably wouldn't describe a river as a "flower" either, but that's perfectly fine.
 
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it. A forest certainly can be a feature on a map.
 
lol
That's good
 
A river of flowers.
 
4:40 PM
A flower of flowers.
 
A flower of rivers?
 
Flowers flowing.
 
Overflowered!
 
Bees may be overflowers
 
Sid
@Rubio to me a river as flower is simply genius
 
4:42 PM
pun overflow
 
@MikeQ your C4 answer is STARBOARD
(polaris=STAR, get on=BOARD, relative right=STARBOARD)
 
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Q: If 71:64 then 92:?

Prithvish BaidyaThis question was in the logical reasoning section of an exam I had recently appeared in. I still have no clue how this is solved. The given options are- 25 32 35 42

 
CCCC: Rio event at which genius loses 50% to Shakespearean princess (6)
 
Gah, what is it today with all the unclued definitions by example?
 
nice surface
 
4:44 PM
IMOGEN
 
@GarethMcCaughan aye sir
 
(was meant to be quick & easy & topical)
 
Rio event = IMO, GEN is half of genius
 
zigackly
 
4:45 PM
yi!
 
would be grotesquely unfair in other venues or at other times of course
 
Sid
Fitting that TGE gets that. :)
 
hehe
 
so I don't think I heard how any of Puzzling's IMO delegates actually did. Anyone want to spill the beans?
 
4:45 PM
(and if Puzzling were a country, where would it have placed?)
 
@Wen1now got silver
 
silver is good: well done @Wen1now
 
@TheGreatEscaper got bronze
 
also good, well done
 
"Through a crack in earth, molten lava spills out over the land"
 
4:46 PM
I got HM
 
I think that Moravian karst caves kinda fit the description of "stack exchange"
 
Nice! As did @boboquack
The paper was weird.
 
Yeah
 
HM means full marks on at least one question but no G/S/B medal?
 
Yep
 
4:47 PM
(I don't think they had that back in my day)
 
questions 1 and 4 were quite straightforward, and then everything else was ridiculously difficult
 
I've looked briefly. 1 is really easy, 4 looks like it might be routine geometry-grinding (which I hate).
 
IDK how I slipped down from bronze last year to Hm this year
 
I solved by constructing a parallelogram
 
But still, it was fun
 
4:48 PM
2 looks approachable, and I'm pretty sure I know what the answer is even though I haven't found a proof yet
 
I think you need a construction for 4.
2 is the most unapproachable functional equation I've ever done
 
2 is harder than it seems at first
 
3,5,6 all look rather tough
 
I heard it's an A6
 
3 is statistically the hardest IMO question ever
but I think it's also partially because everyone fell into the function trap
 
4:49 PM
3 and 5 both have the property that to solve them you have to come up with a strategy which to my mind almost always makes a question hard
A6?
 
q2 = a6
Algebra 6
on the shortlist
 
what does that actually mean?
is the 6 a level of difficulty?
 
which goes from 1 to 8, with 8 being the hardest
 
ah, gotcha
 
i think it was N1, A6, C5, G2, ??, ??
 
4:51 PM
,,, no lullaby for a baby? ,,, time for a nap but the only music playing is hardass ...
 
6 has the look of a question that (unlike most IMO questions) might be a straightforward consequence of some high-powered machinery known to Real Mathematicians in the appropriate domain. I.e., if you gave it to five algebraic geometers there's a good chance one of them would say "oh yes, this is an easy corollary of So-and-So's theorem".
 
in Contact, 17 secs ago, by Rubio
Rubio defending: S
 
The last two were c4, n7
 
Or maybe algebraic number theorists. Or commutative algebraists. Or something in that general vicinity.
In case it isn't clear, I do not myself know of any such high-powered machinery.
 
4:54 PM
If that is (or contains) a solution to Q6 then I don't want to know -- I haven't tried it myself yet.
 
... (not your responsibility, worth a try in any case) ...
 
It contains a reference to a paper which has a generalization of p6 (and the adjacent posts do contain solutions)
 
CCCC: Tired, knackered, and finally comforted inside social media (6)
 
aha, so my conjecture was right? Nice to know I have good intuition :-).
reddit
 
Yup, didn't expect it to last more than a few seconds :)
 
4:57 PM
nice
 
Reddit
crap
 
On that, I gotta head off. Catch y'all later!
 
bye @TGE!
CCCC: Get in before erotic diarist pulls the covers off, lying slightly opened (5)
 
Sid
How do you get IT?
 
5:07 PM
@Sid tired*+d
 
In TGE's clue? It's D in TIRED*
 
Sid
Clearly, I had the wrong construction
 
5:20 PM
The hint at erotics seems to have driven everyone off ...
 
Apparently. Prudish lot we have here. :-)
 
Sid
That looks awfully big for a (5) clue..
 
... as the actress said to the bishop.
 
Sid
So, it must be hard. Hard!=Sid's solving material
 
Or maybe the TSL denizens' knowledge on that field is limited. The canonic erotic diarist, Anaïs Nin, doesn't get me far. Unless "erotic diarist pulls the covers off" is a convoluted way to clue I.
 
5:32 PM
"Prudish lot"...
but followed by Sid saying followed by "awfully big" and "hard"
 
yes, I noticed those
 
Sid
Eh. Yeah. I absolutely meant that. :P
 
5:50 PM
hm
 
Hm what?
 
-aNAI-s (covers off), L_ S_ (opened), "NAILS" = "get in". Hey, I'm just following the clues.
 
BWAHAHA
 
dat surface, though
 
(I am assuming that is not the solution. hehe)
 
5:53 PM
conjugal mismatch, as it were...
 
hah. nicely played.
 
we're finally entering into my knowledge base. innuendo is where I shine
 
go for it
 
pff
 
oh, I meant the banter, not the CCCC
I mean, I'm still an idiot
though is "lying slightly opened" is the def, there are some things that come to mind. I just don;t think Gareth (that I've seen) would go for the suggestive language and then also have a confirmed ribald answer
 
5:57 PM
Yeah, completely agree. I just found it amusing that in playing with the wordplay I stumbled on that, and had to share.
 
which we appreciate
 
anyway.
PSEers, there's two new Sheriffs in town. Be sure to congratulate @Deusovi and @GentlePurpleRain for putting up with you lot for a whole year. :)
 
Modiversary?
 
Yup. I can't believe it's already been a year. How time flies.
 
@Deusovi and @GPR, thank you for your time and effort in keeping the place something resembling sane.
5
 
6:01 PM
NAILS is not the solution to the current C4. Obviously. (NAILS does not mean "get in". It could possibly mean "gets in" but that isn't what I wrote.)
 
yes, yes, it wasn't a serious effort. hehe
 
How is nails -> gets in?
 
We'll explain it to you when you're older.
 
pretend you're twelve
 
if you end it with "heyoooo" it makes more sense
 
6:02 PM
I like the combination of Rubio's and Sconibulus's comments there.
 
that is absolute perfection
 
twelve? fourteen, I think, but sure.
 
So just an immature pun then, I wouldn't really call that a definition for "gets in"
 
sigh...
 
@dcfyj Have you seen the surface reading of that clue? :-)
 
6:03 PM
@GarethMcCaughan I see it, doesn't the answer is in the same vein (usually isn't)
 
Is it really NAILS?
 
Incidentally, Forklift is right: I think naughty-looking clues are funnier when they have perfectly decent answers.
 
no
 
omg you guys
 
@MikeQ No, of course it is not really NAILS.
 
6:04 PM
oi. do you read? hehe
 
lol
 
@GarethMcCaughan Agreed.
 
@Rubio your joke is now ruined
 
@Rubio Reading is for squares
 
@GarethMcCaughan Agreed, and I fully expected it here.
 
It would also be funny to have an exceptionally decent clue (with, perhaps, a religious theme or something) whose answer is extremely naughty.
 
you're not wrong
as a clarification, if I chose to interpret "erotic diarist pulls the covers off" as "remove letters", would the result be ED or ECDT?
 
I would think it would be ROTI IARIS
 
To pull the covers off suggests to me that the outer letters are removed.
 
^
 
6:10 PM
Unless you can somehow subtract the letters of BEDLINEN, of course. (Or whatever covers your favourite erotic diarist.)
 
so "neither, idiot"
so (if I chose to interpret it that way still) there's a chance I would need to synonym erotic diarist before pulling the covers off
 
Most likely, yes.
 
huh.
I guess I won't be google cheating this clue at work or before my wife goes to bed
 
It could be (Get in before erotic)(diarist pulls the covers off) = (lying slightly opened) or something like that
 
it's not impossible, but increasingly unlikely, that "erotic diarist" is anything but either Anais or Nin
 
6:18 PM
Erotic might just be X as in X-rated.
 
what are those things, @rubio? ...asking for a friend
 
51 mins ago, by M Oehm
Or maybe the TSL denizens' knowledge on that field is limited. The canonic erotic diarist, Anaïs Nin, doesn't get me far. Unless "erotic diarist pulls the covers off" is a convoluted way to clue I.
 
incidentally, just for fun I made an example of the opposite sort of clue. This is one not to solve in front of the children. Born paying little attention to the Sacraments, figure of pious patience might call upon his god upon receiving this gift (7)
 
oh my.
 
I have done five escape rooms, and I can say there is a world of difference between bad ones and good ones
 
6:20 PM
No hyphen?
I guess it's one word
 
(Not unlike low quality puzzles and high quality puzzles)
 
never bothered to, um, look it up
 
@Rubio I've never been more frustrated with my inability to CCCC
 
I won't be typing the solution here. heh
 
I assumed
 
6:22 PM
I think I have a guess, though I can't figure out the wordplay at all
 
I'll put it in my pocket and work it out
 
Trying to think of 7-letter "naughty" words...
 
@GarethMcCaughan Pffft that doesn't need so many words
 
@MikeQ yeah, if it's what I think it is the "definition" is really long
 
I'm actually not sure what the intended def is, but - heh
or, more to the point, how it works as a valid def
 
6:24 PM
@Deusovi More of a description than definition
 
it seems to be missing an "it", at the very least
 
Oh, I'm sure I could make a shorter clue. But could I make a shorter clue equally far in tone from the solution?
yeah, really there should be a "one" or something in an appropriate place; the grammar of it isn't great.
 
this is like when my parents would talk about work at the dinner table. I have no clue whats happeningn
 
buahaha
 
it's fine. just sharing
 
6:27 PM
Perhaps I should explain that in some contexts (e.g., the Church of England) it is traditional to classify Christian churches and individuals as "low" or "high", corresponding roughly to more-Protestant and more-Catholic respectively.
 
What ever happened to "This is one not to solve in front of the children"?
 
Ah, that gives me the answer. Yep, you definitely could've clued that shorter, but this version is funny.
 
@MikeQ I was fine with that, honestly. Just amused at the conversation
 
@MikeQ I have not stated the solution.
 
He has just given an interesting bit of trivia, that's all.
 
6:29 PM
Indeed.
 
@GarethMcCaughan Technically true, although even I was able to figure it out prior to the semi-explanation.
 
I could also talk edifyingly about the biblical book of Job, and its central figure's famous persistance in faith in the face of adversity.
 
@MikeQ I wasn't.
 
0_0
 
Anyway, how about those erotic diarists?
 
6:31 PM
Okay, finally got it.
 
I know right
pretty safe to assume once I know the answer, everyone does
 
Commencing my first ever escape room. Wish me luck!
 
Good luck!
 
High five, Forklift
 
good luck! (but more importantly have fun)
 
6:32 PM
@feelinferrety Good luck, hope you have fun!
 
I'm also completely lost
 
Thanks folks!
 
bye @feelinferrety. Hope we get to see you again :-)
 
@feelinferrety have fun, good luck, happy escape!
 
@ffao I have the answer now, actually. Hence my 0_0 face
@Rubio yes.
 
6:36 PM
So this makes your earlier statement of "if I have the answer everyone does" false
 
@ffao I assumed I would be last, sorry :-/
 
@ffao, put together Gareth's two statements about the church being "high" or "low", and the biblical book of Job, and maybe tack a letter on the front...
 
OK, I'm slow
Thanks GPR
 
In a few minutes Rand will be coming along to tell us all to get our minds out of the gutter.
Even though we're just talking about variations in churchmanship and famous books of the Bible.
 
Indeed.
 
6:43 PM
Well, of course! We would never discuss anything so risque here.
Now, let's talk about that erotic diarist.
 
I was waiting for that
 
6:57 PM
0
Q: Hidden phrase puzzle

Sassy Stuck on the first puzzle. It could be ridiculously obvious Solved the other two.

 
@Rubio Is that part 1? :P
 
7:27 PM
I have returned, and am disappointed nails is invalid.
 
@dcfyj lol nice
 
 
1 hour later…
8:38 PM
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Q: Is it possible to make a game of Tetris un-winnable?

Wheat WizardHere's a puzzle I've been thinking about for a while, but still don't have an answer to. Lets say a friend is playing Tetris, but instead of the computer picking pieces at random you get to choose which pieces are added. (Unlike the computer you do not have to pick from a bag, you may choose an...

 
9:02 PM
So because it was a team building thing, my escape room was set up off-site and only puzzles at tables. Wish I could share but they were very hands-on.
 
Was it fun?
 
Yes. I kicked butt at the first round, pretty much owning my entire team to solve the puzzle collection first
Second round I did NOT do well at all
 
but how did the team do in the second round?
 
I was still the best member XD
 
or was it all competitive within teams?!
 
9:10 PM
I don't think a team who is owned by a single person is going to perform well
 
I mean, I'm not particularly getting the impression that the atmosphere was particularly team-building and collegial...
 
It was coop but there were several people so we split into teams, and each team was responsible for one combination lock.
I solved everything and got the first lock off then helped other tables solve the same puzzles with different inputs
Two of my members started talking shop once we got the go-ahead and the others were kind of clueless and quite happy to sit back and let me do the legwork
 
Wait Deus and GPR are only 1 year old?
 
I don't think you can be a parent at 1
 
9:14 PM
I think Deus is 17 or thereabouts
GPR an older fellow?
I am probably totally wrong. No offense intended.
 
to answer n_p's probable actual question, yes. Puzzling graduated fairly recently.
 
9:26 PM
/s
 
I know, we were just having the age discussion earlier today and I was trying to remember or else be corrected
 
9:48 PM
@feelinferrety In my 30s. Not exactly old. :P
 
Hi @user39586 - I've sent a CM request to have your unregistered account merged to your current one
 
Thanks! :)
 
Feel free to give yourself a more interesting Display Name as well - or keep your spiffy userNNNNN identity if you like :)
 
I think it's enough for now. :)
Maybe if I stick around long enough.
 
You'll get addicted soon enough ;)
 

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