Winter / Summer Bash 2022

starball

12:00 AM

:O nice secret hats catija

nobody

@Catija As in hat for a a meta site, or a hat for a hat? :P

Catija

@nobody Heh. The former.

Nordine Lotfi

12:22 AM

are the number of hats always the same per year? how many are there?

lyxal

how many people have gotten the verified hat?

emanresu A

~~divide SE's monthly revenue by 8~~

lyxal

1

A: Show off your hats! (2022 edition)

Lyxal @lyxal · 1 hr ago I swear I didn't pay $8 for this hat #verified #twitter-joke #how-the-hell-did-I-get-this-hat

I have done the funny

Panda

12:40 AM

@NordineLotfi Different every year. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/358301/…

13

Q: How many normal and secret hats have there been in past Winter Bashes?

Does Winter Bash have the same number of normal and secret hats every year? Is there a breakdown of normal and secret hats featured in past Winter Bashes? Having such a list could perhaps allow us to estimate the number of secret hats in future Winter Bashes and approximate the number of secret h...

Nordine Lotfi

Thanks :o

lyxal

tied first with catija :p

Catija

Grrrrr I have one that I should have earned but hasn't been awarded.

Nordine Lotfi

I think I never managed to get more than 2-3 hats

maybe I'm not trying hard enough hmm

lyxal

Or maybe you're trying too hard :p

I went to play a game for 30 minutes and came back to +4 hats

Nordine Lotfi

12:53 AM

honestly I only do the routine I usually do when on SO/SE

lyxal

1:13 AM

Uncontested first place let's go!

wooo yeah baby that’s what i’ve been waiting for thats what it’s all about woohoo

Catija

:/

I'm blaming my family coming home and interrupting my hat search.

lyxal

lol

@Catija do you know what the exact trigger for verified is?

And if so, does it have anything to do with changing one's pfp to their identicon for a bit?

Catija

It was my idea, so I certainly hope so.

What's a pfp?

lyxal

Profile picture

I'm just thinking back to the things I did before getting the hat

gparyani

1:52 AM

Is there a chicken quest as part of this year's Bash? Since balpha is back, I hope so

Speaking of, how involved is/was balpha in the running of this year's Bash? Same as earlier Bashes when he worked for SE?

lyxal

ain't no way this person wearing long pants in summer

Catija

2:04 AM

Seems very appropriate that I was actually tricked into answering a data-tagged question.

@lyxal Some places have quite mild summers where pants are totally reasonable options. :D

lyxal

wish I was in one of those :p

Catija

@lyxal No

@gparyani He was involved in a few ways but not in creating any sort of easter eggs.

lyxal

@Catija "mild summer" how I wish that were true for Australian summers.

Catija

Same in Texas

Unrelated String

can't loose white pants actually be cooler than shorts if the sun's bad enough

Catija

2:11 AM

I feel like I've heard that, yeah.

31

Q: Winter Bash 2020 hat names & references explained

Here is a list of the 'etymology' for the Winter Bash 2020 hats. Everything about the naming (whether related to Stack Exchange mechanics, memes or anything else that isn't obvious to most readers) can be found here. What may be obvious to you (because you're a game expert, or a native English sp...

discussion winter-bash fun winter-bash-2020

I'd love to see a question like this this year, if only to see how many of the references y'all pick up on. :D

lyxal

2:23 AM

So for the splunk hat, would a tag data-structures count?

Catija

Yeah - I got mine from a question with community-data

4

Q: Cumulative Winter Bash hat data

Is there anywhere that data could be found regarding Winter Bash hats, such as how many of each hat have been earned, when such hats were first earned, and the amount of each hat earned per site? I remember that Stack Exchange used to release data following the Winter Bash in prior years, but cou...

feature-request winter-bash community-data winter-bash-2022

Also, I'm back in the lead.

lyxal

For now

What's fun about winter bash is thinking you know what got you a hat on one site only to get the same hat on another site without having performed the same action you thought was the trigger

Catija

2:40 AM

:D

starball

2:52 AM

hat suggestion for next year if covid is still a big enough thing: covid hat. you get it if you reply to or get replied to by someone with the hat.

Seggan

where does the hat originate?

starball

@Seggan dunno. community user? a created account with a bat profile picture?

Catija

Oooh, that reminds me, I should go set a hat for Community.

emanresu A

Give it whatever the hardest hat to get is

Catija

Right now it only has four to choose from but I think I made a good choice.

3

starball

3:12 AM

I like the way V2Blast wore their hat xD

Vickel

3:32 AM

hey all, it took me some time to find the room :)

James Risner

Anyone know how to get the Not Found secret hat yet? I'm not sure what I did to gain it.

gparyani

@Catija Did you post this answer and reattribute it to the Community user?

(The homepage lists you as modifying it with the same timestamp as the answer, and following the last activity link shows that one)

Catija

... I don't know what you're talking about...

The bot did it and is trying to frame me.

2

nobody

3:51 AM

@JamesRisner You visit a not found page :)

Although I'm not sure exactly which not found pages work

Visiting /404 definitely does

Vickel

@nobody I did that and it didn't trigger

Joshua Lin

What grants a "heads up!" hat? No idea what I did lol

nobody

@Vickel That's weird. Visiting /404 triggered it for me on two separate sites

Vickel

@nobody did you click on a broken question link?

nobody

@Vickel No, just literally went to stackoverflow.com/404

Broken question links don't work for me either. Hence why I said I'm not sure which Not Found pages trigger it

nobody

4:09 AM

@JoshuaLin Did you flag anything?

I got it on SO and I think the only thing I did there was spam flag a post

James Risner

4:27 AM

Seems heads up (confirmed on 3 sites) can be triggered from removing a thank you comment (but likely any comment if the flag is cleared.) I can't confirm whether post flags would do the same yet.

nobody

Well, I didn't flag any comments on SO

So post flags probably work too

So the trigger would be: flag a post or comment that subsequently gets deleted?

Or does any sort of flag work?

James Risner

Motor Vehicle earns Heads Up for flagging a comment that is deleted.
Serverfault and Etherum flag a comment that is deleted and try again (error: "This comment has been removed") earns.

So yea, flag and get cleared/removed/deleted earns.

If you just post flagged and earned, it's probably all flags that are cleared.

Catija

5:21 AM

@gparyani I'm not quite sure why you feel like you need to "ruin" the fun of Community posting on Meta about her hat.

James Risner

5:34 AM

@nobody Confirmed, flag anything, wait for it to be approved = heads up. Do I get credit for discovery? ;-)

(I just got a site with only an approved post flag award heads up)

Flagging is confirmed, 10x approved flags (only verify comment - but suspect it's a bronze version of heads up)

Panda

I think X Marks the Spot is awarded for having 3 secret hats on one site.

i.e. Propel Thyself in past WBs

James Risner

@Panda My three X marks match that (3 secret, 4 secret, and 4 secrets)

Panda

@JamesRisner Nice!

Eran

5:51 AM

Hello

Panda

@Eran Hello, nice to see you!

Eran

@Panda Hi, good to see you too

James Risner

Unflagging is retracting a flag.

V2Blast

6:19 AM

@starball Haha, thanks. When one pair of sunglasses isn't enough... Add another one :D

gparyani

@Catija To prevent confusion from newer users as to how or why a supposed "bot" account is posting that kind of answer.

V2Blast

@nobody I think that's the only one that works for that hat.

gparyani

See also: stackoverflowteams.com/c/charcoal/questions/516 and stackoverflowteams.com/c/charcoal/questions/627 (requires Charcoal team access)

James Risner

@Catija You actually searching? Or did you have the list?

Panda

Hmm was trying to find users with Collection Complete but in the midst of doing so, got it myself

James Risner

6:39 AM

@Panda I've been trying to get it. Any idea how you got it/

Panda

@JamesRisner Hmm, I did a variety of random things, can't tell which one earned it. I did some edits on posts and edited my profile too.

Panda

6:56 AM

@JamesRisner Just recalled that I saved, upvoted and edited a post. Maybe the 3 actions make a Complete Collection.

Ankit Sharma

7:07 AM

Is there some hidden requirement for cookies hat?

Not triggereing for me

Catija

@gparyani There's no indication yet that anyone is confused, though.

@JamesRisner I have the list, I still have to do the work, though. :P

@AnkitSharma No. Did you wait 10 minutes?

Panda

@Catija Could you confirm this?

2 hours ago, by Panda

I think X Marks the Spot is awarded for having 3 secret hats on one site.

Catija

I could, yes.

Ankit Sharma

@Catija I think it's more than 10 min. Cookie setting is same which come in popup right on bottom corner?

James Risner

@Catija But shall not at this time?

Panda

7:14 AM

That’s an easy one, thanks @Catija!

Ankit Sharma

did we break any secret hat yet O.o

Catija

Lukas Rotter

I think you have to literally to go /404 for the NotFound hat to trigger, invalid question ids / random other urls didn't cut it for me.

James Risner

@catija Also can you confirm: Heads Up = 1 helpful flag, flagging = 10 helpful flags, unflagging = 1 retracted flag.

Catija

It runs every 10 minutes on the 10s, generally. There are some we had to cache longer for performance reasons but I don't remember which hats it was.

@JamesRisner Yes, no, no

Ankit Sharma

7:23 AM

@Catija thanks

Catija

@AnkitSharma I just got it on M&TV so hopefully it'll work for you eventually.

You don't actually need to save any changes, just open it and close it again.

Ankit Sharma

Got that

I tried both ways in two different sites and got it in both

Catija

Cool

James Risner

8:04 AM

@Catija Any benefit for trying to keep pinning down the award requirements for hats I have? --- Kinda guess I'm asking if there's a hat for learning how to find hats?

Catija

There's not. We haven't been doing manual hats like Archimedes for years.

James Risner

8:23 AM

On previous years there were hats that required "Pinging an SE employee", what did that mean?

flydev

Hello, I got a Collection Complete hat, and I wear it :) but I am wondering which collection they want to speak about and/or what's is the trigger

James Risner

@flydev We've been trying to discover. What were you doing between 7 minutes and 30 minutes before the hat?

flydev

cool, been trying to discover it too. I did nothing, just woke up and saw my awarded hats

James Risner

hmm, interesting.

flydev

And before going to sleep, I just visited SO. However, I have a tab open on a question for 2 days.

James Risner

8:33 AM

@flydev I have 50+ tabs open on questions for months - so it's not likely that.

@flydev comparing our profiles, I think it may have something to do with badges. Maybe the fact you have one or more of these that I don't:
Census
Curious
Enlightened
Good Answer
Nice Answer
Popular Question
Scholar

InanimateBeing

9:03 AM

Hi, got the Albert Einstein hat but am confused about the trigger. Perhaps answer a question within 12 hours (or 3 hours) of question posted with at least 1 (could be 0 too) upvote?

emanresu A

Nope

If so, Neil would have it

InanimateBeing

@JamesRisner wait a second... it's not instant(!)... Well then Albert Einstein hat might be given for approving (2) suggested edits ¯_(ツ)_/¯?

@emanresuA I see, just realized my folly.

Though if hats aren't awarded even after 30 minutes or (2 hours) after the trigger, then that would complicate things a bit more. (Like getting tag edits approved). Is it the case?

flydev

@JamesRisner ah yes maybe, what first was coming to my mind, was because I got reputations on multiple area, and / or getting 150 visits on consecutives days.

mousetail

9:51 AM

Chatterbox seems to just be talking some amount in the chat

CinCout

hola

Daneel Olivaw

10:12 AM

Is Collection Complete obtained by having's one's question saved by another user?

emanresu A

That's gotta be it

For the hat, I recently saved a question from someone who hasn't been on the site in months, and they have only it

CDJB

I could confirm it for you if someone saved this question , chosen absolutely completely at random

emanresu A

Of course, completely random

nohillside

@CDJB done

emanresu A

(I created a politics account to save that lol)

mousetail

10:19 AM

If everyone does it we won't know how many saves are needed though

CDJB

@emanresuA Maybe there's a hat for that, you never know!

emanresu A

Already got it

starball

@InanimateBeing I don't think so. I've approved 10 today (and do not have that hat).

CDJB

@emanresuA I think it might be going too far if I asked you to ask a question so I can close, edit and reopen it :D

CDJB

10:32 AM

@DaneelOlivaw Well, I haven't received it so far - don't think this can be it.

CinCout

@CDJB you can do that to my latest question on SO

CDJB

@CinCout I was really on about the 'Hey, Listen!' hat - needs the user with the closed question to be a new contributor.

@DaneelOlivaw Ooh, I tell a lie - just got collection complete. Guess we can confirm that one :)

CinCout

@CDJB makes sense. I thought you were testing a secret hat!

Stiv

@Panda Another possibility (linked to the use of 'My Day' in the name) might be voting on a post that pre-dates the user's own membership of a site, perhaps? Easy to disprove if any long-time members have picked it up for voting on relatively recent posts, but the cut-off might be a relative time period like this rather than a static one.

gparyani

in You Are Here, 19 mins ago, by Xnero

@Willeke If you save someones post they get a secret hat. Can you save one of mine (you can unsave it after) and I'll save one of yours?

InanimateBeing

10:44 AM

@nobody yup that link worked for me too and got the hat on SO. Even though I checked 5 MSE (M=Math) not found pages but that failed to trigger the hat on MSE.

Panda

@Stiv If true, that would be novel. Usually "old" refers posts from a year ago, based on hats from past years.

0

Q: Unable to adjust my hat as hat control is hidden

I can't adjust the position of my hat as the hat control overflow is hidden. I'm using Safari v16.1 running on macOS.

bug design winter-bash winter-bash-2022

Just wondering if anyone else has this problem too, or is it just me?

gparyani

I'll let you all know that the Not Found hat was the very first hat I earned on the network. I loaded the Meta.SE homepage at the time WB started and I was immediately awarded the hat.

That means to me it's awarded based on past activity.

in Winter Bash 2021, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:20, by gparyani

Also, for what it's worth: last year, the team broke from tradition and didn't disclose the triggers for the unsolved secret hats at the end, which they did for 2019 and earlier Bashes, so they could re-use the same triggers for this year's Bash. Those who want to try and guess may want to look at past activity from Winter 2020 for hints.

InanimateBeing

@starball Well then the only other thing that I did before getting that Einstein hat was suggest some tag wiki edits. I did 2 edits in total. 1 was that of excerpt of a tag and the other was the description of that tag. They were blank before I edited them. The edits got approved (obvio).

James Risner

@InanimateBeing 30 mins should be close to the most delay, not 2 hours.

gparyani

Changing your chat parent site, once you've earned it on your original parent site, will allow you to earn it on other sites too

InanimateBeing

11:00 AM

@JamesRisner still worth a try perhaps... for Einstein hat? I mean from my side nothing else could explain. Under "All actions" that's all I've got.

Rest is just surfing here and there AFAIR.

nohillside

I just got Einstein on U&L. Only action was processing some review queues

James Risner

@InanimateBeing I've approved more than 2 suggested edit, so it's not 4 or less.

@flydev I'm 117 consec days. From the rep on multiple areas? You mean sites or tags?

InanimateBeing

@nohillside It worked for you and me but why it's not working for others? User starball and JamesRisner say otherwise.

mousetail

@nohillside What specific queues did you do?

nohillside

2 x close, 4 x suggested edit

Ankit Sharma

11:11 AM

chatterbox is for star or pinning?

InanimateBeing

2 x tag edits suggested; 3 x suggested edits (I approved all): For Einstein hat

@AnkitSharma Chatterbox is for simply chatting in a group and your messages should appear as 5 (or 6) separate box (in the same chat group) (so 2 or more consecutive messages are counted as 1) to trigger the chatterbox hat.

Also, I got Heads Up hat on MSE and just by looking at the hat's image, it seems one got to have spent at least 42 minutes on that site in a single day. And also I don't think it needs to be spent all at once without a break, not sure on this part though.

Ankit Sharma

@InanimateBeing 5/6 already happened here

InanimateBeing

@AnkitSharma There you go. Let's confirm the suspect.

James Risner

@InanimateBeing Heads up confirmed is an approved flag, a single post or comment flag.

Ankit Sharma

@InanimateBeing I got in movies where I have only one box with two separate line, one self pinned and got one star later

gparyani

11:21 AM

@Catija My official guess for the Not Found hat: have encountered a 404 page on the site at any point in this month. (Also explains why I'd be immediately awarded the hat on Meta.SE the moment WB started)

InanimateBeing

@JamesRisner lol. So the image is leading as anything!

Dharman

stackoverflow.com/users/11995760/dharmanbot I got 5 hats even though I haven't been using this account

emanresu A

My guess would be that their code started tracking 404 page visits a few days/weeks before

gparyani

Also, it seems the designer for the hats is either from Switzerland or loves the Swiss flag

James Risner

More suggested edits got me Albert. So it's more than 2 it seems.

emanresu A

11:22 AM

@Dharman Have you signed that bot up for Smokey or something similar?

Dharman

No, it only runs my bot activities

SPArcheon

@gparyani I visited the 404 page on purpose today and got nothing. That was the first thing I tried

Dharman

i.e. chat messages and flagging

InanimateBeing

@JamesRisner Finally! Congrats.

Dharman

I wonder what X marks the spot is

James Risner

11:23 AM

@Dharman All of those are flagging related (X mark is 3+ other secret). Unflagging is something related to flagging retraction I think but can't pin it down.

Ankit Sharma

@SPArcheon same from charcoal got 404 pages when clicked

Dharman

Because I think I get that chatterbox is chat messages, flagging is 2 flags, unflagging is 5 or 10 flags

@JamesRisner It can't be because my bot does not retract anything

SPArcheon

can anyone provide me a link to a deleted question on SO? Maybe it has to be an existing deleted question that you can not see.

James Risner

@Dharman Not 10, because I flagged 10 without retraction on 2 sites and only got flagging. Might be 11 for unflagging maybe. or I made mistake on exactly 10.

gparyani

I hope we're not being thrown off with some hat triggers, designed to only award based on random chance and not in other times.

It could be with the Not Found hat that with each 404 page load there's a 10% chance of earning the hat

Dharman

11:27 AM

@JamesRisner That's definitely not right. I haven't raised 3 flags and I got it

I got 404 hat before the event started

Ankit Sharma

@SPArcheon i can provide movies deleted link only :D movies.stackexchange.com/questions/111735/…

Toribio

@SPArcheon just recently deleted stackoverflow.com/questions/74810707/…

Panda

Got Albert Einstein after going through a number of Suggested Edits reviews.

SPArcheon

12:02 PM

WB site still references the Konami code script, seems unused

all the animals are still there too,

(and for some reason, "dragon" is now an option)

James Risner

@SPArcheon link? I'm not sure what you talking about.

SPArcheon

@JamesRisner do you remember the old "secret" links on the site that used to point to random emoji and/or youtube videos in the older Bash sites?

They are still there, but I don't remember "dragon" being a valid option before.

James Risner

@Dharman Strange, my account on RPG has exactly 5 comment flags, all approved and only Heads Up for the last 6 hours (so it's not caching or delay)

James Risner

12:18 PM

Anyone have any idea on "Over 9000", I don't think it actually is something more than 9000.

Transcript for