@Malachi So long as you support my platform of handing out snarky sarcasm, surly cruelty, and swift retribution to those who deserve it, I would gladly support getting you a modhammer of your very own.
How can I do this in Chrome? > Copy + paste in this code in Election page for some fancy graphs & sorted votes
Never mind, figured it out. Right-click > Inspect Element > Console > Paste > Press Enter =) But I think there are bugs. Negative votes show as positive.
actually i meant to refer to your point "negative votes are recorded not displayed". unless the script can query SE servers and fetch the negative vote count, it only has the information in the page code. the question is, does the page code have the negative vote counts even if they are not displayed?
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It was decided to be too cruel to display a person as having a score less than 0.
There was talk during the SO election that massively negative scores was unnecessarily demoralizing; the point of the primary is to find the 10 best candidates, not to say "this person is ridicu...
out of curiosity, how did you determine the number of downvotes JG got?
oh, looks like the split vote count shows it. i can indeed see the actual negative score for a candidate using this feature even if the final score is just shown as no less than -1
@ADTC What makes you think I'm not serious? "surly cruelty and snarky sarcasm" are just what a lot of the lusers need. Well, that and a swift kick in the fun bits, but until the technology to kick someone in the genitals over IP is developed, I'll have to settle for hurting them with words.
1. (computing, slang, derogatory) A person who does not have the ability to use computers.
2. (computing, slang, derogatory) A user (especially in IRC) who disobeys the rules of the servers that he or she is using and usually resorts to disruptive or offensive behavior/behaviour.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork You realize that users who have problems with using computers (in one way or another) sort of make up the majority of question askers?
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork Well, maybe you can post an example next time you see such a question during review on SU. Just out of curiosity because I'm not able to imagine how that'd look like in practice.
This was posted as an answer, but does not attempt to answer the question. Please consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word "answer" before attempting to answer another question. — HopelessN00b18 secs ago
I apologize for the relatively tame nature of my response... it's a busy morning here at the office. I'll line up something snarkier and crueler for the next one I see like that.
@slhck Yup, that's tame. I made the generous assumption that he was unsure of the meaning of the word "answer," rather than other possible explanations, such as him being an illiterate idiot, a wildly inconsiderate jackass, some combination of the two, or something else completely.
@slhck Oh, and that jackass posted another not an answer. You sure you don't want to instruct him on the meaning of the word, and or smack him around with the modhammer?
@Malachi Whatever it is, it's meant for thwacking people. People who can't even figure out that questions go into the questions and answers go into the answer need thwacked with it.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork Yes, we're sure. You can try informing them politely once. If they keep doing it, then you can go for snark but not as a first resort. Please.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork thwack too many times and the stick breaks, whereas guiding with the stick it stays firm and isn't feared so it is respected and keeps the flock safe
I am still debating whether or not it would be worth my time to answer the questions for the election or if I have already been kicked out of the room...
@Malachi ...pretty sure that modhammers don't suffer from the same physical degradation as real hammers. For that matter, I have a hammer at home I've had for 20 years, and it hasn't broken despite heavy use and being run over by a car.
@Malachi Except that someone who wanders by and posts something barely comprehensible and/or moronic is not a member of the community. Such a person is worthless. Worse than worthless, in fact, because in aggregate, they drive away talented people who are part of the community and do contribute something of value.
@Malachi: though, usually mods just warn folks when that happens. Nearly everyone gets warned for using close flags when they're newly minted with VTC powers
@slhck How's he not a jackass? At the very lest, he's being inconsiderate and wasting the time of everyone who reads his crap. Not to mention, as an SO member with a few hundred rep, he does know better, he just chooses to... well, be a jackass.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork The user was just granted their association bonus. His first answer wasn't just pure crap. One last time: stop calling a user a jackass.
I am only going to answer a couple of Questions, there are several Mods already and I believe that one Mod will not be required to do everything all the time, meaning that I should specialize in a couple of mod aspects to compliment the rest of the mods creating a good team atmosphere.
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@slhck Right, he got >200 rep on another SE site, so he ought to know how the whole question & answer thing works. But, whatever, coddle new users too inconsiderate to bother reading or following the rules. Still leaves the question of how to get quality community members who'll contribute quality information, because I suspect that people who can't even get the answer part of Q&A right might not be up to the task.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork Point them to the appropriate help section at the first "offense". Then, if they continue to do something against the rules, we'll find other measures.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork you seem to think that all sites are SF. We want clueless users here, that's the whole point of the site, to help people who don't know.
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Your approach makes sense on a site for professionals, the point of SU is that your grandmother should be able to post here and as long as the Q is clear, she should get an answer. At the very least, she should be treated with civility and not "snarky sarcasm".
@terdon Clueless is one thing, unable/unwilling to read the very user-friendly tour, and put questions in the questions and answers in the answers is a whole other level.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork Do you always read forum rules before posting? Yes, people should but they often don't and usually because they didn't know. Users should help guide them, not be pricks at them. That goes triple for mods.
@terdon I do, actually. Must make me a superlative human being, or something. But if someone doesn't even to bother to read the rules before posting something, what are the odds they'll end up being a useful contributor/member of the community? Pretty close to 0. It's like showing up to a first date smelling like an open sewer.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork I sort of agree with what @HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork is saying with out the snark. If someone tries to understand and puts forth an effort, and follows the rules, than they're ok no matter what skill. I can't standup for the people who blatantly disregard the rules, and or put no effort into something.
Well, looks like it'll take more than a minor miracle for it to matter, but the extra effort involved in converting someone into what amounts to showing common courtesy is probably not unrelated to the large (and growing) size of the SU mod team.
@slhck Yeah, the reaction to the first polite-but-corrective comment or non-suspension mod message is usually a pretty good indication of how the user will turn out. It always makes me happy when new users respond well to feedback, and then stick around to be awesome.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork When people discover our seemingly intuitive system, and see lots of questions getting answers, they just .. well .. start asking questions. That's precisely what we want them to do because we do force them through some of the initial help before they can ask their first question. If they miss something, it's ideal if there's a civil, polite and helpful community of people willing to guide those that can be guided.
I am only going to answer a couple of Questions, there are several Mods already and I believe that one Mod will not be required to do everything all the time, meaning that I should specialize in a couple of mod aspects to compliment the rest of the mods creating a good team atmosphere.
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little hint for candidates: don't start with things like "I probably need no introduction" or "what can I say about myself that the community doesn't already know?".
I'm a regular user who comes here, eventually ask and answer questions, frequently upvotes this or that. I know nothing about you, it's the first time I ever saw you, and even if I had seen your user before I would still not know anything about you, because I don't use my time to go stalking other users. And I believe at least 90% of the other people voting are like me. Be humble.
@msb: I'm slightly internet famous, least as far as SU goes. Besides, I said, "many of you" not "All of you". (I also wrote that part of the candidate introduction on a phone when I was in india with no desktop access. It probably could be better).
status-bydesign
It was decided to be too cruel to display a person as having a score less than 0.
There was talk during the SO election that massively negative scores was unnecessarily demoralizing; the point of the primary is to find the 10 best candidates, not to say "this person is ridicu...
I am only going to answer a couple of Questions, there are several Mods already and I believe that one Mod will not be required to do everything all the time, meaning that I should specialize in a couple of mod aspects to compliment the rest of the mods creating a good team atmosphere.
Quest...
Super User 2014 Election
Super User 2014 Election