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00:00
Anthonyking: Hi yall, the courseware says complete sections 1-10 of the CodeAcademy Ruby Track during week -1 and then sections 11-19 during week 0. The Introductory Ruby Track goes from 1-16. Am I doing the wrong track?
GlenK: Anthonyking: so depending on how you fair with progamming, you should studdy a lot or not at all. you're asking us. you think that's cool?
GlenK: frick
GlenK: dude just quit
GlenK: as I said something
GlenK: gay
00:19
Mitchbones: It wasn't exactly a helpful answer to his question
Mitchbones: Codecademy redesigned their website so the lessons are no longer numbered, so it is a little confusing what this week's homework is.
00:30
McCoyBoy: Hello!
wspicer: ahoy mccoy
McCoyBoy: I'm trying to run the rails server on my VM and I keep getting the the error "Could not find gem 'therubyracer (>=0) gem in the gems available on this machine. Run 'bundle install' to install missing gems." Anyone know where I can find this "bundle install" they're talking about?
wspicer: RVM list // rvm gemset list // what do you get?
wspicer: the gems should already be installed. Is this the stock VM download or did you do your own iso VM install?
wspicer: go to your Documents/rottenpotatoes directory, then run bundle install
wspicer: this will take some time as some gems need to compile locally, (libv8 about 20 minutes) but after it will not take as long
JoeC: @McCoyBoy anywhere in your VM would do. just type in bundle install
wspicer: no Joe, not if you have different Gemfiles or no Gemfile at all
JoeC: the machine will install the gems in the right place. Possibly /usr/local/bin or somewhere default.
JoeC: O really?
JoeC: Sorry about that.
wspicer: think of them as project files
McCoyBoy: Ok. I ram the rvm set and I got "gem sets for ruby -1.9.3-p448 (found in /home/saasbook/.rvm/gems/rubi-1.9.3-p448 => default (next line) global
McCoyBoy: I will try to run the bundle install of of the rottenpotatoes directory and see if that gives me anything
McCoyBoy: And thanks for trying to help too, JoeC. :)
McCoyBoy: Missed your other question, it should be stock. That's why I was so confused.
McCoyBoy: I did have to use Ubunto x64 since the plain Ubunto was not given to me as an option when I was setting up my VM, but everything else has been the same so far.
wspicer: what does "lsb_release -a" say?
wspicer: in particular the release number
McCoyBoy: It's still running/installing things. I'll run that in once it's through with installing everything
wspicer: ok so as long as the bundle install is going that's good. It will take a while because libv8 needs 15-20min to compile a local version to your computer. So take a break and just let it run ;)
wspicer: after this, future bundle installs will be quick
McCoyBoy: I was wondering what was taking that one so long. Thanks a lot, wspicer. This has probably saved me about 12 hours of painful google searching. :)
JoeC: anyways
JoeC: I was wondering which version of VM image to use.
nathura: hi all
JoeC: Probably the stable one, but why there were optional betas?
nathura: any one help mein installing the vm
nathura: ???
JoeC: wspicer just did explain a few things.
JoeC: Scroll up. I think the only issue for now would be getting prompted to install bundled gems.
McCoyBoy: @nathura Have you checked out the vimeo video? vimeo.com/34754478
wspicer: thanks Joe, saves retyping
nathura: @McCoyboy nope
nathura: i would
nathura: thnx
JoeC: The video pretty much explain it all, except the bundle installation.
nathura: could you suggest me any other sources for learning ruby other than code academy
wspicer: rubymonk
wspicer: just do the free parts and that will help
nathura: ic i will do
nathura: thnx
JoeC: or try Why's poignant guide to Ruby
JoeC: Could be a fun experience.
nathura: thank you guys for helping me
McCoyBoy: @wspicer: ran the lsb line you gave me and got 12.04 as a release number. And, in other news, the rails server is running just like in the video. Thanks for helping me out!
wspicer: great
wspicer: you're welcome
wspicer: did you try the website, localhost:3000 and that's ok?
wspicer: you can see the movies app?
McCoyBoy: it all seems to be working just fine. :)
wspicer: alrightie
McCoyBoy: I do have a question though, the instructions on the Bookware website imply that you can turn on copy/paste bidirectionally (from VM to, say MS Word, and vice versa). Is that possible? Because their steps just give me an error.
wspicer: Go to the Devices menu and select install for the guest additions. This should activate the menus
wspicer: you can then select bidirectional
wspicer: or if you've done that just go to the devices menu and select Clipboard, bidirectional
McCoyBoy: The exact error is "Unable to insert the virtual optical disk C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso into the machine Sasscourse. Would you like to try to force insertion of this disk? Could not mount the media/drive 'C: \Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso' (VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED)." And I have the options of "Force Unmount" and "Cancel".
wspicer: Cancel
McCoyBoy: Yeah. I figured forcing anything was a bad idea since I just got it all working. :)
wspicer: on the main desktop do you see a disc on the right side menu?
McCoyBoy: I selected the clipboard option and it still won't let me copy/paste into Word
wspicer: err.. left, side menu?
McCoyBoy: yeah
wspicer: right click on it and select eject
McCoyBoy: ok
wspicer: then go back to VM's Devices menu and select install at the bottom of that menu
wspicer: it should then "do something"
wspicer: basically reset the guest additions. I did this with the stock VM and it helped activate all the device menus
McCoyBoy: hmmm...it's not really
McCoyBoy: doing anything except bringing the CD back into the left side menu.
wspicer: is the bundle install done yet? if not wait until its done then reboot the VM. The guest additions iso is just a file included in the installation of VirtualBox. I don't know why they don't just add it, but when it's on it allows the menus to not be greyed out.
wspicer: it's not vital right now so you can leave it and try again later
McCoyBoy: The bundle install is done. I"ll try later just to make sure, though.
McCoyBoy: Thanks for all your help with this, wspcier.
wspicer: you're welcome. I've done both the saasbook VM as well as a Lubuntu iso VM, so this is fresh in my mind
McCoyBoy: Glad there's someone so knowledgeable to help the neophytes like me out. :)
wspicer: my saasbook VM had stuck guest additions so I ejected it and reloaded it and then my menus worked. This won't affect your rails project just your ability to connect with your host OS. For example, I run in Full Screen mode. Without Guest Additions I'd be forced into a small screen only.
wspicer: so it's really just for features
McCoyBoy: Yeah. I just noticed that I seem to be locked into the small screen, even if I maximize the window it's held in. I'm sure it'll work eventually.
wspicer: this is what the guest additions iso fixes
wspicer: if everything is ok you can reboot the VM (it'll happen fast) and you can try the iso again
McCoyBoy: WEll, I'll try it again later and see if everything works. It's getting rather late where I am, so I'm going to have to sign off and get some shut eye before work tomorrow. Thansk again for all of you help in explaining everything.
wspicer: you're welcome
wspicer: cheers
01:44
AndrewGoett: howdy all. I've been working on getting everything in order on my virtualbox and had a question: Do I need to take these updates from Ubuntu's update manager seriously ?? I've installed some, but others fail to install
AndrewGoett: Do they matter ?
wspicer: The updates should run okay. While they don't matter to the software already on the VM and as such would run okay, I'd still be curious what the error message says!
wspicer: if you're Host OS has its firewall turned on it may not see the VM, so leave it in a training mode or off during updates
wspicer: I had to do that in Windows
wspicer: holy grammar... it's your not you're
wspicer: inconceivable
AndrewGoett: just closed my updater window.... going to reload it ... but this time I will try the updating with my firewall off and report back in a few . I am not host
wspicer: yes the VM is a "guest" and whatever it run on is the "host"
JoeC: Hey, just shifting from Python here
JoeC: Just curious...do Ruby blocks in fact lambda functions?
sampriti: Do you mean to say "ruby blocks are lambda functions"?
JoeC: Yes, are they?
sampriti: Blocks in Ruby are a part of the syntax of the method call whereas Procs are objects of the proc class. Both can be passed to a function to be yielded to.
sampriti: Lambdas in Ruby are a instance of the Proc class but are slightly different in the way they treat arguments and returns
02:18
AndrewGoett: wspicer: I tried reinstalling updates with my firewall off but I kept geting these error messages.... i.imgur.com/N5yBHQx.png <---- screen shot of my installation
AndrewGoett: wspicer: thanks for your help too while I troubleshoot this
AnandNadar: AG: if your browser is working fine for other sites, this is probably a mirror site issue...otherwise, this is a network issue...
AndrewGoett: AnandNadar: Cool, thanks. My internet connection has always worked fine on this virtual box.... just thought I'd ask the community what they thought. Thanks
Sydharth: I saw the same update issue as Andrew, I tried turning off the firewall, even thought VirtualBox was allowed through the firewall. From the VM I am able to connect to Google, edx etc
Sydharth: I was also able to ping that IP from the host
Sydharth: If it helps, all the updates that failed had to do Generic Kernel Headers, other updates seemed to download fine
AndrewGoett: Sydharth: yes, I found too that some updates installed fine and all that are left are the generic kernel ones... I dont have much experience with this stuff, ping? how? haha so thanks for letting me know how the updates wend on your side
Sydharth_: Andrew: I just opened a Command Prompt and typed in "ping 91.189.91.15". I gave up trying to install the updates. I am just happy to get as far as getting the Guest Additions and Shared Folders working so far.
AndrewGoett: Sydharth: ahhh ping. Its all making a little more sense now. (as in, I know what a ping is, but going about doing a ping, no clue) Sounds good. I'm off for the night. Thanks all
AnandNadar: ping means box is alive...but nothing more than that....so the server module that provides the file might have conked out and ping will still come back fine
03:13
Wookiejm: Is the codeacademy ruby course working for anyone? Just hangs loading, tried some basics such as clearing caches and what not but no go. Using chrome, latest version
zkay: wookiejm: have you tried another browser?
wspicer: works okay on FF. I have it running this very second actually ;)
Wookiejm: Hanging in IE..must be my firewall or something. Will continue troubleshooting, just wanted to be sure it was on my side
Wookiejm: Thanks
PedroJRamirezR: I have got set up the vm and completed th Ruby track
nathura: please help me weather to choose ubuntu 64bit/ubuntu 32 bit in virtual machine
zkay: nathura: will your vm have more than 4gb of memory allocated?
wspicer: how much memory do you have currently on the entire computer?
nathura: zkay: u mean RAM?
zkay: nathura: yes, RAM
nathura: 4 GB
zkay: nathura: probably safe to choose 32bit, as your entire OS only has 4gb available to it and so the VM won't have to address more than a 32bit OS will allow
nathura: ok i will choose 32 bit
nathura: thank you
zkay: nathura: of course
nathura: what hard drive file type i should choose
nathura: could any one tell me the cons and pros of different hard disk types
wspicer: I'm sure there's a lot online. It depends what advantages you want versus common systems
wspicer: journal vs ext4 vs ext3 should give you a lot of data
wspicer: If you don't know a linux install will suggest defaults
nathura: i asked about vm hard disk file types
zkay: wspicer: I'm thinking he means the extension of the file that holds the virtualdisk
zkay: .vdi, .vhd etc
wspicer: oh
wspicer: vdi
zkay: nathura: .vdi is probably solid bet, interoperable and all
nathura: yes zkay is right
03:39
nathura: ACTION slaps nathura around a bit with a large fishbot
Stratos: is ruby better than node.js?
Stratos: ruby on rails*
wspicer: ACTION slap
Stratos: lol i'm curious what's so good about ruby
Stratos: just spent the last 2 months learning node instead of ruby, but i want to take this course :(
tracyjeannine: hiya
tracyjeannine: anyone know: I have an older version of the textbook, from last summer, I see the current course info recommends the 2014 version, will it make a difference? pls/thx
Amarveer: which is better Python or Ruby?
Stratos: prob not
tracyjeannine: thx
zkay: I don't think there's any "better", it comes down to using the proper tool for a job..or whichever you prefer
tracyjeannine: bfn
zkay: it's like asking who's right when two people are presenting arbitrary opinions
Amarveer: ok, thanks
nathura: zkzy help me to sot out this problem as shown on the screencast i couldnot run rails server it throws some error
nathura: any one here??
zkay: nathura: what does it say?
nathura: couldnot find rubygem
zkay: nathura: in a terminal try this:
nathura: try what?
zkay: gem install rubygems-update
nathura: i have given bundle install, do i quit that
zkay: if that is running I'd just leave it
nathura: ok
zkay: if it fails try what I pasted
nathura: but it is running for a long time so i asked here
zkay: as I understand it several of the gems take a long time to compile (30 minutes) on the vm
zkay: so unless it's been that long or longer I wouldnt worry
nathura: i see
nathura: zkay r u an TA
zkay: nathura: nope, just a guy with a cat
nathura: cat ??
nathura: cat means...
zkay: I PM'd
04:29
AtifC: ACTION slaps AtifC around a bit with a large fishbot
AtifC: ACTION slaps AtifC around a bit with a large fishbot.
zkay: night all
04:49
shirhad: Finally a successful test run ....
05:32
rajece451: HI,Im new to these website,please help to start course
rajece451: how,procedure,rules to fallow
rajece451: proddatur
tansaku: should get you started
tansaku: that's the syllabus and then the getting started page
tansaku: best of luck in the course
Oliver_Schafeld: I might have found a small text error in the edX introductory quiz.
Oliver_Schafeld: Question 2 reads "According to the course info page corresponding to CS169.1x, how many hours per week are you expected to spend on the course?".
Oliver_Schafeld: However, the course info page doesn't mention hours. (The syllabus page has three average values for time required by students.) Is this question meant to introduce students to the "show answer" button? ;)
Oliver_Schafeld: ... I wanted to put that into a comment on the page, but (maybe) the comments aren't open yet?
Oliver_Schafeld: I got an "We had some trouble processing your request. Please try again." error when trying to post.
Oliver_Schafeld: Wondering if I should report this on Pivotal Tracker as a bug?
StevenJD: What introductory quiz? I don't see one.
06:03
Oliver_Schafeld: Ouch, silly me. You're not an TA, right?
Oliver_Schafeld: We got early acces as TAs. Sorry, will report this somewhere else, see ya... ;)
dahalco: Guys, I have ruby 2.1.1 and rails 4.1.0 installed on my mac , do I still need to install VM?
StevenJD: Right. I just came online to see if anyone's around. I have an especially stupid question and I thought I'd give it a shot.
dahalco: Go ahead Steven
dahalco: I am here with the Q too, I dont see anybody around but wd be glad to answer if I can.
StevenJD: When people say "the cloud" they're speaking loosely, right? There's more than one cloud, I assume?
dahalco: Ofcouse there will be.
StevenJD: I meant in general. But I guess specifically in this class too.
StevenJD: I was trying to explain the topic to my parents and I was reasonably sure that there was more than one cloud. But we got hung up on semantics.
dahalco: I dont see any connection here, what does this cloud have anything to do with this class.
StevenJD: I thought saas was mostly useful in the context of cloud computing. But I barely understand what the term means and am just trying to go with a definition someone gave me before I think
dahalco: I would show them this video : youtube.com/watch?v=TTNgV0O_oTg
StevenJD: Thanks!
dahalco: You welcome.
StevenJD: Are you a TA? I think you were here last time I was on too. Seems like some harsh hours depending where you live.
dahalco: No I am not. This is my first time here. I live in Houston. Just thought about checking on whats going on before going to bed.
StevenJD: Thanks for the answer! It was nice that you were available to help! I'm up late too. I live in central Minnesota.
dahalco: do you have prior ruby/rails or any languages programming experience?
dahalco: You are welcome BTW.
StevenJD: I have prior experience in Several languages, but not ruby. C++ and Java are probably most relevant.
dahalco: Oh great.
StevenJD: How about you?
dahalco: Same here, some C++, Java, but suck at both.
dahalco: Some ruby/rails. Self taught.
dahalco: Built some sample apps with ruby/rails. Some html/css/js ofcouse.
dahalco: Not much
dahalco: dahal.me . This is me by the way.
StevenJD: I am a beginner at Java. I have done OOP C++ but mostly for scientific purposes. So I don't know much about hashes, lambda expressions, or other advanced techniques.
dahalco: hashes are something like :_
dahalco: YOUR_INFO = {name=>"Puru", home_town=>"Houston"}
dahalco: I dont know much about lambda either.
StevenJD: Thanks, yeah. They made sense in the tutorial. And I've read a little about the other stuff, though I've never used it.
dahalco: Gotta go StevenJD, it was nice chatting with you. Good luck with your class.
Buland1Malik1: ---'''[
07:14
joaopapereira: Hello
user58869
what is cs169-1x-irc?
sampriti: Hi!
user58869
@CS169ChatBot hello?
Hi
This isnt the chatbot.
sampriti: This however is
user58869
07:19
where is the chat room?
@Alex I built a bridge bridge between the course IRC and the StackExchange chat.
user58869
where does the chat bot live?
You need to run /join jb_test
user58869
thanks... i dont have an irc client... i'll get one later
Its complex in that the bot fetches messages from the main room and posts them here.
But the messages posted here go to the jb_test room
So that the main channel does not get polluted.
user58869
07:23
that's really interesting
nathura: could anyone tell me the difference between the saasbook vm and ubuntu
joaopapereira: saasbook vm have everything you need installed
sampriti: for the course
joaopapereira: and ubuntu don't
sampriti: you will have to do all the installation on ubuntu
nathura: so i can use it as a general purpose os
sampriti: yes
joaopapereira: if you know how to install everything yes
nathura: i have done installation in virtual box
nathura: could you suggest any linux/unix installation
joaopapereira: it depend on what you like :D
nathura: could you suggest any linux/unix tutorials
joaopapereira: the easiest distribution to use is the ubuntu based ones
joaopapereira: because they have everything and the support on the forums is very good
joaopapereira: i would suggest you to go to ubuntu if you do not want to worry much about the OS
nathura: i did a bare metal installation of ubuntu but it is over heating my laptop
joaopapereira: are you using X?
nathura: i could not get appropriate drivers from dell
nathura: x??
joaopapereira: Graphical interface?
nathura: dont know about that
joaopapereira: what i am asking is if you use graphical interface to work on linux
alfatomes1: i need someone help about my Ubuntu
nathura: yes
nathura: startx
joaopapereira: alfatomes1: shoot the problem here
joaopapereira: nathura: then you might want to try not using it accessing using SSH
alfatomes1: ubuntu installation is not complete
nathura: @alfatomes1 try vm it is easy to install
joaopapereira: @nathura: have you tried with the Ubuntu version that is provided by the Course?
nathura: yes but in a vm on a windows7 host
alfatomes1: yes have install vm on my system
alfatomes1: it re mean ubuntu to install
alfatomes1: on window 7
nathura: yes
alfatomes1: but i can not install ubuntu on my install
joaopapereira: @alfatomes1: are you trying option 1 with SAASBook VM or trying to install ubuntu by yourself?
DarkWishMaster: Helloooo
joaopapereira: Hello DarkWishMaster
alfatomes1: so now i will need to download saasbook for ubuntu
nathura: yes you have to download
joaopapereira: @alfatomes1: you have 2 option or use the VM provided by the course and you just need to do "bundle install" in the folder
nathura: it is the easy way lol
joaopapereira: or you will have to install ubuntu in a VM and then get the repo, and run some scripts
joaopapereira: but you have all the steps that you need in saasbook.info/bookware-vm-instructions
joaopapereira: options 1
08:16
sinai4l: Hello over there
sinai4l: i have a question , is there a .image file for VM for Book version < 0.10.0 beta versions
joaopapereira: Hello sinai4l
joaopapereira: @sinai4l: no
joaopapereira: if you really want you will need to install ubuntu
sinai4l: oh okej, so you cannot use Vm for book versins below < 0.10.0
joaopapereira: but why not use the 0.10.3?
sinai4l: THNX by the way
sinai4l: i acnnot get the book
sinai4l: i cannot get the book
nathura: what book??
nathura: chrome book?
sinai4l: i am living in NL and dont know where to gett it for the right price
joaopapereira: @sinai4l: you can always try the Amazon EC
sinai4l: Book:L Engineering Long-Lasting Software AN AGile software development..
joaopapereira: at least it looks like is online, did not tried it
joaopapereira: @nathura: there is a book that is recommended and it is the base for this MOOC
sinai4l: @Joaopapereira yeah guess thats what i have to do
sinai4l: really want the book
nathura: it costs 8$
nathura: omg
sinai4l: @nathura : Yeah second handss
sinai4l: THNX going to get one
nathura: just use the materials in the net
nathura: dont waste money lol
nathura: but books are cool things
nathura: +2
sinai4l: Yeap mans/womans best friends
sinai4l: ;)
Ma_Gr: The saasbook-0.10.3.1.zip ?
Ma_Gr: Is the download super slow for anyone else too/
nathura: nope
nathura: some what slow
nathura: it took 9 hours for me lol
nathura: it is a huge file 1.85 GB size
nathura: it all depends on your bandwidth
Ma_Gr: Past 6 hours for me has only downloaded 500 mb... tested it very quickly with a 1 GB file on Steam, which took 10 minutes, in comparison.
nathura: r u downloading it directly or using torrents
nathura: i downloaded that directly
joaopapereira: The place where the VM is hosted is pretty slow, so it takes some time
nathura: but not this much
nathura: I am having a very slow connection(512 Kbps) but it took only 9 hours
 
2 hours later…
10:33
alfatomes1: hello
tansaku__: hi
joaopapereira: hello alfatomes1
alfatomes1: have download saasbook I try to load it on my vm it load error
joaopapereira: what error?
alfatomes1: machine execution stop
joaopapereira: what is the step of installation you are at?
alfatomes1: I open vm
joaopapereira: so you finished the installation going through all the steps in saasbook.info/bookware-vm-instructions and now it doesnt start?
alfatomes1: I create new vm window visa
joaopapereira: did you get to this point: This screencast explains how to set up, boot and log in to the VM.?
alfatomes1: I create memory
alfatomes1: size
alfatomes1: I select my saasbook file
joaopapereira: can you open the Helpdesk Hangout?
joaopapereira: if so please enter
joaopapereira: the chat there will be a TA
joaopapereira: that will help you with this
joaopapereira: it is easier
joaopapereira: if we see the problem
joaopapereira: i need to go ill be back in 10, if you were not able to solve it and need help ill be around after that
alfatomes1: okay
joaopapereira: brb
GordonFern__: The hangout is open alfatomes1 are you able to go onto it and share your screen showing the error.
alfatomes1: is open
jsoto008: anyone using aws?
joaopapereira: @jsoto008: yesterday i helped someone with it but i am not using it
jsoto008: ah I'm setting it up now
joaopapereira: there is a post
jsoto008: when does course material show up?
joaopapereira: in the forum
joaopapereira: that explains
jsoto008: I'll look at that

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