Photography Chat

This is the place to submit and vote on photos for the week of 4 July to be featured on the main site. This contest should showcase your best quality work, demonstrating at least moderate skill with a camera and a general understanding of the artistic aspects of photography. Remember, the selecte...

jrista

11:28 PM

lol

JamWheel

found it

jrista

jam, your a lazy git!

THERE! Look at it! Its the second freaking sentence!

"This contest should showcase your best quality work, demonstrating at least moderate skill with a camera and a general understanding of the artistic aspects of photography."

JamWheel

lol, dude, chill - I am there :p

jrista

no, not talking about you

talking about all the people who keep submitting total crap

JamWheel

"jam your a lazy git"

haha

jrista

11:29 PM

that was like, 15 seconds ago...get with the times man

JamWheel

it's you're btw :D

jrista

my auto-correct doesn't auto-correct that

and I'm also a lazy git :P

JamWheel

the peregrin is quite nice, bit different

jrista

yeah

but its still just one photo

we should have 8-10 nice photos to choose from

JamWheel

the tube corridor is... well, a tube tunnel

there are more interesting tube tunnels

jrista

11:31 PM

yeah

JamWheel

the composition of the gears is good

i would enter something but i never have the inclination to crop something to that silly size

i went out in the sun yesterday and photographed the local red kites: jameswheelerphotography.com/Animals/wildlifeandanimals/…

jrista

it is a pretty silly size

@JamWheel nice shot

those birds frame beautifully against a blue sky

JamWheel

it just means you have to faff about - nobody composes for that shape, so it potentially ruins the image

thanks man

they do look good

they have camera detectors though, almost always do a runner when i have my camera

jrista

yeah

rfusca

@JamWheel love that shot

jrista

11:34 PM

those birds of prey are always tough

There are a bunch of falcons in a park near me

JamWheel

@rfusca thanks

jrista

but with their eyes like radar, they can see you preparing your camera and take off

JamWheel

this lot are tame enough that if they are hungry you can walk about photographing them. I was stood in the road when I took that one lol

yeh, lots of patience and missed shots

handy having such an abundance of them living in the area

I took a couple of others but that is the best

rfusca

@JamWheel that one's pretty good too, but i like the other better

jrista

@JamWheel I like this one. Love the light coming through the feathers

lol...art is so subjective

JamWheel

11:37 PM

i think the pose in the first is more dynamic

rfusca

@JamWheel yup

jrista

@JamWheel indeed

JamWheel

but the light coming through the wings is good and pleased i managed to keep some detail despite the light being behind

the 2nd shot was almost full frame, the first was more of a crop

and that was with my 2x converter on

which allegedly takes rubbish photos

jrista

which lens?

JamWheel

it doesn't perform so well in poor light but works fine in the sun.

@jrista 300mm f/2.8

jrista

11:39 PM

oh, 600mm

thats why they are so close

7D?

JamWheel

1dmkiv

rfusca

1d iv

JamWheel

the first is ISO 1000

2nd ISo800

rfusca

ya @jam rolls in style

jrista

1.3x crop?

JamWheel

11:40 PM

and last ISO1000 again

yeah 1.3

jrista

yeah, thats nice

you got an effective 780mm there

JamWheel

yeh

hand held baby

lol

bit wibbly

jrista

the iso and af on that body are second to none though

JamWheel

the nikon high ISO is pretty good

jrista

I would never be able to take a shot like that with the same lens+extender and my 450D

JamWheel

11:41 PM

but the pixels vs sensor size ratio is pretty much spot on i think

jrista

yeah

probably a huge benefit for such a long focal length like that

JamWheel

the 1Ds mkII makes some lovely clean shots though

same mp but full frame

you put an iso 100 shot from each next to each other and the full frame is sooooo much cleaner

jrista

i bet

JamWheel

hey, i managed some cracking shots on my 400D with my 100-400 :)

jrista

its when you start amplifying the signal that newer technology really shines though

"cracking shots"?

rfusca

11:44 PM

do any of the cropped sensor Canon sensors complete with the new Sony sensor yet?

JamWheel

great shots

@rfusca no idea

Sigma have an interesting 46mp sensor... 3 layers of image or something

jrista

I think I just accidentally fixed two bugs in my code...

rfusca

lol

jrista

bah

sigma does NOT have a 46mp sensor

its a 15mp sensor, that senses color on three layers

rfusca

and queue @jrista's Sigma Foevon rant...

JamWheel

11:46 PM

yeh

interesting sensor though none the less

jrista

I don't like bullshit marketing

its interesting

JamWheel

they do state on the marketing it is a 3 layer 15mp shot

jrista

but they need to stop messing around with marketing ploys, and start making competitive cameras WITH that sensor

JamWheel

at least they do on what I have read

heh

jrista

yeah, if you dig into the details...but all over the net its described as a 46mp sensor

and I've read dozens of threads all over about people drooling all over the "highest resolution sensor" for mainstream cameras

it makes me sick how easily people buy into the hype

JamWheel

11:47 PM

heh

that will always happen though

jrista

yeah

the sad thing is

while the sensor is pretty cutting edge

and definitely has its merits

JamWheel

people do it with news stories, they even read what they want it to say when the written version of the 'facts' clearly say something else

jrista

the camera body it lives in is a piece fo crap

rfusca

@jrista yes!

its like wtf

jrista

foveon die-hards try to write that off as "oh, you get used to it"...

JamWheel

11:49 PM

i read an encouraging review of it in Black & White Photography magazine

jrista

and perhaps you do...but still, its a PIECE OF CRAP

@JamWheel I think all the reviews are pretty encouraging

JamWheel

i also saw a weird looking and very price Mamiya advertised

jrista

I would love to see Canon make a foveon-like sensor

at least then, I could get a decent camera body crafted with some finesse

rfusca

@jrista i know i saw a story about them doing that, but now I can't find it :(

jrista

I really wish you could

JamWheel

11:50 PM

i want them to steer their pro bodies away from video first

jrista

I've been searching everywhere for that article

@JamWheel why?

JamWheel

as soon as you start diversifying a tool designed to do a specific job, it is in danger of not being so good at its main function - especially if you push too far down that route

jrista

maybe...

JamWheel

i can understand it at the consumer end

broaden your consumer base

jrista

the 5D is pretty superb at both photography and video though

JamWheel

11:52 PM

fine

but pro bodies people want it for photographs

jrista

thats not really true

JamWheel

yeah they are now, aside from some rolling shutter issues

jrista

part of the reason the 5D II is such a success is its video

there are entire movies and TV shows filmed with the 5D

JamWheel

and its failure is the auto focus... which maybe they would have noticed if they weren't dicking about with the video :P

jrista

well

I doubt its AF would have been any different with or without video

JamWheel

11:53 PM

yeh, they filmed the last episode of house on one of the series with one

jrista

they just put a shitty AF system in it

its the same AF system in more than half of canon cameras

JamWheel

it is an extra thing to test though - whilst the differences aren't there now, all the video heads will be chomping at extended video features etc

jrista

the AF issues and rolling shutter issues are supposed to be fixed with the 5D III

JamWheel

more focus taken away from taking photos

jrista

again, maybe

JamWheel

11:54 PM

have they announced that yet?

jrista

depends on how you test

@JamWheel not officially, but the latest rumors have been solidifying

JamWheel

if they get their shit together, they might get away with it - but it is a rocky path to start down if taken lightly i should think

jrista

I'm hoping they announce it in august

extensive testing on both fronts can be done simultaneously, if you have two teams

JamWheel

i would rather then spent some extra £ on R&D on sensor tech or something than fiddling about putting video in the camera

jrista

since video is a HUGE selling factor for the 5D, and since its still the only real camera that serious Canon landscape photographers use, I can't imagine them skimping out on the testing on either front

JamWheel

11:56 PM

on the 1dIV it is very much an afterthought and feels tacked on

not that I would ever use it

jrista

yeah, I can't say much about the 1D IV

it may indeed be cheap

JamWheel

i spose that is how they got away with the 5dII's shocking AF

landscapers use MF for hyperfocal distance :)

jrista

well