Photography Chat

12:07 AM

@mattdm yes

@jrista most of the reviews of that amazon branded pack compared it to that canon pack but gave the edge to the amazon pack for some small features, waist strap, slightly larger, flaps over interior zippers, etc

jrista

the canon has a waist strap

and I believe mine has flaps over all zippers

can't say about the size

rfusca

interesting

well who knows then

Evan Krall

they might've licensed it from the exact same manufacturer

Pearsonartphoto

They do look pretty similar, but I'd have bought the Amazon one if it was around.

I love my pack that I got though:-) It's awesome:-)

rfusca

1:56 AM

there's a real lack of pictures in this week's running so far

jrista

2:50 AM

yeah

I have hardly had time to do any photography lately.

jrista

3:07 AM

This is cool: stoppelbart.deviantart.com/art/Tutorial-199975691

Evan Krall

whoa

I want to try that now

jrista

me too

need to get that kind of wrapping paper

really finishes off the effect

I'm also curious to know what might happen if you put a film of oil on top of the water

or try to float oil droplets

Evan Krall

might make it work better; might not

soap almost certainly would make it worse

jrista

yeah, although soap might make for some interesting normal droplet shots

since it will loosen the surface tension

rfusca

3:30 AM

@jrista thats pretty sweet

jrista

wow, there are a lot of people on this site who live in colorado

and a lot of them who live very near me

Evan Krall

how do you know?

jrista

Jerry Coffin, Rob Clement, Kendall Gelner, and one other (lost the user while browsing) all list their location as in colorado, within an hours drive of where I live

there are some others too, mostly around 200 rep...no one I know

there are a lot of people from sweden and canada too

Evan Krall

4:23 AM

man, I need to jump on used equipment deals faster

there was a nikon 80-200 f/2.8 AF on adorama for $650ish the other day; now the cheapest one is $1079

which is grey market

Evan Krall

4:40 AM

alternatively I could get a used push-pull AF 80-200/2.8 for under $500, but apparently the autofocus is very slow

Evan Krall

5:04 AM

what does a 16-35mm lens need VR for?

keh.com/camera/Nikon-Autofocus-Zoom-Lenses/1/…

rfusca

marketing?

jrista

at 35mm, it could be useful

its not really needed, but it could be useful

especially in low light

rfusca

ok, wierd....everytime i try to go to keh.com it downloads instead of viewing

i literally can't get to the page in chrome

jrista

yup, thats weird

Evan Krall

nifty: keh.com/camera/Nikon-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/…

This lightweight GN Auto Nikkor performs automatic flash exposure through a guide number coupling system. Once the flash guide number is set, the diaphragm is coupled to the focusing mechanism.
Thus the diaphragm is automatically set for correct flash exposure. There is no need to adjust the diaphragm with each change in focus. This coupling is disconnected when the flash is not used

jrista

5:08 AM

wow, $172

and its manual

very nice

@EvanKrall Has Nikon always had that feature?

Evan Krall

don't think so

I think that's unique to that lens

rfusca

@jrista Educating the Clueless

handy andy

jrista

great

now he has two accounts with the same name

getting@boring.net

getting@bored.com

so, when he gets bored, he comes here and trolls

rfusca

if we don't give him any responses to troll, he'll weary eventually

jrista

yeah

I just deleted all his new answers on both accounts

doing an IP cross ref to see if he has any more

he seems to primarily come from two IP ranges

but he's had a few other random IP's as well

rfusca

5:20 AM

ya

Evan Krall

I wonder how well a mirror lens would work for astrophotography

jrista

probably pretty good....since most astrophotography is done with reflector or schmidt-cassegrain telescopes anyway ;P

those basically are mirror lenses

well, I'm off to bed

nite

rfusca

5:41 AM

@EvanKrall ya,i've wondered that ALOT

enough, i think i'm going to use some birthday money next week to get a mirror 500mm

amazon.com/…

lol f/16 aperture - only size

and its manual focus....i mean...how would you ever...

it'd have to be so bright

night

Evan Krall

5:56 AM

f/16 would be fine with newer cameras

sorta

you could hand-hold with ISO 1600

mattdm

8:37 AM

@EvanKrall photo.stackexchange.com/questions/6129/… :)

@jrista proxies

mattdm

8:58 AM

I removed the "kit" tag from a handful of questions, to match the death of "equipment". And now, here's Handy Andy again. sigh. So I just want to point out this question that came in meanwhile, so it doesn't get lost in the noise: photo.stackexchange.com/questions/10843/…

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Q: Why does a higher-end camera body like the Nikon D700 cost so much?

What are the features that make a DSLR costlier? For example, I am wondering why the Nikon D700 costs $2000?

chills42

12:55 PM

@jrista I took a look, one range is from the opera mini proxy farm (all the traffic for opera's mobile browser is passed through a proxy and reformatted), and the other range is in PA, US. Not important, but interesting.

the others groups seem to be from the moderators, because the merge actions are happening from our addresses

rfusca

2:23 PM

@EvanKrall the problem is the viewfinder would be so dark it'd be difficult to manually focus

Sean

3:02 PM

@rfusca But live view could help with that, right?

rfusca

i guess, not sure. I'll test later.

@jrista fyi i dropped some info that was discussed on the troll attack into that meta question/comment about it

mattdm

@rfusca d'ya want to link to photo.stackexchange.com/users/4595/handy-andy ?

rfusca

3:21 PM

@mattdm done

mattdm

cool

mattdm

4:22 PM

doh! out of votes and it's only noon.

cabbey

4:32 PM

@mattdm there's a thread for that. :)

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Q: I want more votes!

Especially during the beta, I've been reading nearly all questions and answers, and I'm upvoting and downvoting a lot -- for two reasons: First, I hope to raise the content quality by making it clearer to newcomwers what a good and a bad *) post looks like, and second I want to motivate the users...

discussion feature-request

mattdm

@cabbey Ha. I'm actually with Robert Cartaino there -- i just need to calm down a bit.

rfusca

5:29 PM

Looks like nikon's coming out with a G version of the 50mm 1.8

they must be feeling the need to put something out for their 3000 and 5000 series cameras that don't have the motor and are in the same budget range

mattdm

5:43 PM

@rfusca surely that was their plan all along.

Long term, they can drop the motor from the higher-end bodies too.

rfusca

@mattdm ya, i've figured the same

cabbey

7:09 PM

need to kick @photoangle out of my twitter stream, keep getting distracted by questions and not getting any work done.

mattdm

7:20 PM

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Q: What should I attach to the wall in order to be able to use this video camera perch [it uses a vice to attach]?

http://www.amazon.com/Makaw-MKVP06-Camera-Mounting-System/dp/B002OREONQ We need a solution to mount a camera to a wall. We'd like an option that swivels and tilts, which this option does. This option uses a vice to mount, which means we need to install something into the wall to attach the vice ...

mounting

cabbey

case in point. ;)

mattdm

-> diy.stackexchange.com ?

cabbey

maybe... but I'd expect the powers that be there to view it as just about as borderline off topic as we do

chills42

@mattdm it might be a candidate to migrate, but I'd consider this borderline. it's basically a form of tripod recommendation, which we've long considered on topic.

rfusca

technically only cuz you edited the word "video" out ;)

mattdm

7:26 PM

lol

ehh, looks like @chills42 you've got a good answer anyway.

chills42

@rfusca haha, that may be true... but I'm ok with that.

mattdm

oooh, the "mounting" tag is a grab-bag of random. photo.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/mounting

two for prints, two for obscure ways to hold a camera, one for lens mount adapters

chills42

haha, yeah, we need to break that up into framing and lens adapters and tripod-related stuff

that is pretty bad

rfusca

when you tag a question, the wiki should display somewhere so you know if you're using it appropriately

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chills42

@rfusca in this case that wouldn't help since there was no wiki :(

rfusca

7:35 PM

well i know, but there would be some day and it would help then ;)

mattdm

@chills42 Should we, then, alias mounting -> framing?

chills42

@mattdm I'm not sure it should be aliased, it seems like to general of a term

we should probably retag the current ones and just do away with "mounting" entirely

print-mount lens-mount camera-mount?

mattdm

7:52 PM

My thought is: if we alias it to something, it goes away permanently and doesn't creep back.

I don't know a better way to do that.

Except Eternal Vigilance, of course.

@chills42 print-mounting, camera-mounting?

camera-mounting to separate from camera-mount

or lens-mount

which already exists

chills42

@mattdm seems fair, although some might actually be more about the mount itself than the act of mounting it

mattdm

@chills42 *shrug* :)

jrista

8:46 PM

@mattdm mounting and framing are rather distinct

and mounting has different meanings depending on context

for one, you can mount a framed print on a wall

however, you can also mount a print to some kind of base

but mounting a print to a base such as in plaq or art block mounting is not really framing

if you wanted a tag that covered them both in appropriate fashion

perhaps [art-display], with [framing] -> [art-display]?

as for the mounting tag, we could probably do away with that one, and where necessary, replace it with more specific tags such as lens-mount

Rowland Shaw

@jrista isn't that the point of tag wikis though - to say what the tag means to us

jrista

Sure, except that "mounting" in and of itself does have distinct meanings

and they depend on context

which wiki do we write?

The one that describes art mounting? Or the one that describes lens mounts and mounting?

I think its too general of a tag to really be useful

I am not sure what the camera mounting stuff was

Rowland Shaw

9:08 PM

I'd say mounting was only for prints, with lens-mount for, er, lens mounts

jrista

9:32 PM

I would agree, but our users don't seem to understand it that way.

Even if we add a tag wiki, thats assuming our users read those, which I would figure is only a percentage, and probably only those who know stackexchange sites (i.e. came from another site or have been here for a while.)

Evan Krall

10:59 PM

@rfusca very true

cabbey

11:13 PM

heh, I really need to start following @shizam's lead and posting a short answer quickly, then editing it with detail instead of just sitting down to write out my full thoughts, only to get beaten tothe punch by @jrista

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Evan Krall

miminum viable answer?

cabbey

for the one I just did, minimum viable answer woulda been "no."

took me over 600 words to say that.

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