I'm sure that you are both reasonable people who will be able to sort out their differences in a civilized fashion without making references to parts of the human anatomy.
I'm not familiar with the background of this particular debate, but I would think that it might be worthwhile to take a step back and let things cool for a few days.
@jrg, you are right, I should not have said that. I apologize mew. But this isnt 1 conflict, more of a series of conflicts. I'd like a moderator to get involved, as Its impossible for me function on this site when I get plunged into these abrasive discussions.
@jrg but yes, generally I am better with that. I should not have been childish.
I fear that if Neo becomes a moderator, he will not have the capacity for discussion, but will resort to harassment claims at start of any potential conflict
Oh, fun. Um, I guess in that case, you should find a SE employee. I will go ask someone to take a look at this conversation and get back to you guys. Is that acceptable to both of you?
Thankyou jrg, Neo's antagonistic actions on this site and then his refusal discuss in chat and harassment claims are distrubing to me. I would appreciate a moderator mediating our conflict
is conducive to starting a discussion about why your post was downvoted.
@Neo I think your best course of action is to not respond any further to Mew. Let the current chatlog stand on its own and now that he's flagging comments, he's just going to try and bait something out of you that he can flag so he can appear to be in the right.
@Neo don't let him have that opportunity and just ignore him. Nothing constructive has come from your interactions and I don't believe anything will in the future.
@jrg I've pinged our community manager about this, it has been going on for days
@casey, thanks for your input but I believe it is an overreaction to my statement "why did you downvote my answer"
There have been additional disputes in the past, but most have been trigged by Neos actions on the main site, which have raised the tensions between us
After our early disagreements Neo made a very antagonist comment to one of my comments. This is what lead to the previous disagreement where Neo first claimed harassment when in fact Neo's antagonist comment is what I perceived as him harassing me
Asking a user why they downvoted should be encouraged on the site. I honestly believed Neo downvoted since he was online at the time, and his downvote count increased by 2. I didn't mean to bully Neo out of his downvote, I just wanted some feedback to help me improve my answer if he indeed was the downvoter
Since he denies downvoting, that is fine - but I had deduced in all liklihood he was the downvoter. Not harassment just a mistake in reasoning assuming he is speaking the truth
I was not against the downvote by all means, but I was just seeking feedback
I'd also like the moderator reviwing this to ask Neo and Casey from insisting on my revealing my personal identity
@Mew watching vote counts of users and then frantically searching for the one that changed when one of your posts is down-voted is not healthy. The occasional unexplained down-vote is just part of life on a system such as our's and you have to be able to be okay with that.
Both of you also need to realize that conflicts can only happen if they're fed by more than one.
Getting constructive feedback was an opportunity here, but a missed one. The thing to have done is said "Someone down-voted my answer, I think it's a perfectly good answer, does anyone have any idea what might be wrong with it (if anything)?" and then linking to it.
The answer was down voted because I lost my keys. Please, stay with me, let me explain this odd chain of events.
Earlier today I couldn't get to the store on time because I could not find my keys. That caused me to miss the opportunity to run over a golf ball, which would have bounced between a...
(which I wrote after answering 'why was this down-voted' for the 200th time)
@TimPost thanks for the comments, I agree with everything you've said (I am to blame for some of this). If you would, please take a look at some of our other conflicts. @Mew has accused me of being an antagonist, but I have no Idea how, and we are un able to have a dialog about this despite a few efforts.
The pressure gradient is given by hydrostatic equilibrium. In a solid, this may not be exactly true, but creep will make it so. Let $p$ be the local pressure, $g$ be the local acceleration of gravity and $\rho$ the local density. Imagine a small element of volume with area $A$ horizontal and h...
@TimPost While do not take offense to the content of the criticism (in fact, I addressed those very points in my acceptance post!) , I take offense to the relentlessness in which he makes his points. A man who spends an entire night, repeating the same argument over and over, despite people acknowledging it is a bit strange.
Why does any of this even matter? We're far beyond the impetus for the conflict at this point. Now, we're at the fact that it's still going on and isn't likely to stop unless you both stop it. I'm going to purge comments under both of your posts.
@Tim, in light of Neo's perception of being harassed, I'm willing to refrain from conversing with Neo. I just want to make sure I can defend myself before a moderator makes harsher actions
@Neo, I didn't consider it an accusation I apologize
If I say, why did you brush your teeth, it is not an accusation unless it is a bad thing to brush teeth
@TimPost I intended it to be flippant. Not because I like being rude, but because other methods has not worked. I am at a loss. If he agrees to try and be a bit more cordial, thats fine, but I've indicated that I am not comfortable in how he approaches me for a while ow
I think he's come to realize that this escalated a bit more than he intended and that's kind of easy to get lost in once it happens - you're not always aware of it until all of a sudden you realize where it went.
@TimPost I agree, which is why when I have had conversations with other members on this forum about it, to get advice, I have always said that he is a force for good in this community.
@TimPost I really hope you do not delete the posts under my moderator nomination, I think he has some valid points.
This is a pretty awesome community. This is the kind of site I've been looking for to explore with my 8 year old. Find some random question and then just go exploring it.
@Neo There were a ton of unrelated / obsolete comments on all of them, I just cleaned those up.
@TimPost, thankyou for mediating our conflict. @Neo I will aim to be more amicable and I will show more restraint with voicing concerns in a tactless manner
@TimPost I agree. I think we are growing at about ~20 members per day since open beta. I think that is pretty healthy, though this site is in dire need of experts. We have a few, but it isnt enough to keep up with the questions.
There was a bit of a disconnect on Sustainable Living when they first started, a lot of people read more of 'environmental science' into it, but that's not really the case (though there is some overlap). It showed a lot of potential for a community like this, I'm glad that energy found a home.
@Neo Don't feel bad at all about asking that so early. That's a great question to draw a good expert on the topic, and the amount of votes says "Yes, this is the kind of stuff this community likes to talk about. I think I'll stick around."
In my experience, a small hand full of hard questions going unanswered is quite healthy, as that gives the truly skilled something to do when they arrive.
I hope. I've been advertising this site at my department; Geologists tend not to be big computer users in my experience. It seems to me that most SE users are in some sort of computer related field, or at least the most active ones are. Which makes sense. The experts for this site will often be out in the field and unable to answer for months at a time as well. It will be interesting to see what kind of base we retain.
I constantly have to teach jr/sr level undergrads how to use excel when I TA....
When we launched Seasoned Advice, we horribly underestimated how many amateur cooks we had in our ranks of programmers, sysadmins and super users. Programmers tend to be interested in a plethora of sciences, including geology (I'm a bit of a rock hammer buff myself).
Neo, if you want experts, think of a question, find an expert on it, and email them; I've done it before, it's easy, and it works 80% of the time. Also, just to be clear, I posted the question to SE and got the expert to answer on SE.
Never a good time to ask, and sometimes it takes people months to get back, but point is to send an email, then followup; the followups are key. Plus, I'd suggest picking experts that are already active online, not ones you know.
Neo: Okay, here's a possible example of what I mean, here's a list of four people with emails that might have some thoughts on your Navier-Stoke based question.
If you agree that they might add value to the question, just draft one email, saying "nice paper", and ask if they have any thought on the topic you've presented; don't cc them all, send one email per person, with their name in the Dear, though otherwise use the same email to save time.
Issue with the link you provided is that there's nothing "personal" on the page - people are much more likely to respond to something that is personal to them. As for reading the paper, point was to find possible contacts, not stuff to read.
Well Neo, not like they'll know who you are, that is unless you use your real-name. Another "dirty trick" of mine is to find speakers that presented on a topic recently, email them, and say really enjoyed your presentation and our brief chat, "had a question"... :-)
No, idea what is good, honestly SE makes it very hard to understand the health of a given site, and I gave up getting them to develop public facing stats on this years ago. Hell, Area51 has been dead for years, in my opinion.
Just a reminder, but the "classic" Area51 stats are here; guessing this is where you're pulling the new user data from, though your math appears to be off "295 users / 11 days = 26.8 users per day", or you're attempt to track new users based on the last full days count.
Comment on expert questions: There is really a difference between questions that can be answered by experts and questions which are only answerable by research. For the latter it is better to join researchgate and talk to the people involved in the field. Sometimes questions lead to new research topics and on researchgate you can find people to collaborate on that research.
I don't think we should censor impossible questions. If there is even a remote chance that somebody will see it and say "I need to research that", we did something well.
Researchgate works well after you have some publications and met some of your network in real life.
Collaboration anyway becomes better the longer you are in your field.
The pressure gradient is given by hydrostatic equilibrium. In a solid, this may not be exactly true, but creep will make it so. Let $p$ be the local pressure, $g$ be the local acceleration of gravity and $\rho$ the local density. Imagine a small element of volume with area $A$ horizontal and h...
What on Earth?
What on Earth?