The Sand Trap

Seggan

01:42

@Bbrk24 i can see 724 actually being used

@DLosc lol same

Bbrk24

yeah true

Rydwolf Programs

02:08

My school district's budget for "Data Processing Services" is around $9m...I wonder how much of that is the fancy new grading/attendance software they recently purchased

I've maintained for a while I could write something better in a month

And I'd sure like to have $9m...

user

03:19

I hate how every site that talks about signs of ADHD uses relative/subjective terms such as often and too much

How tf am I supposed to know if I’m more forgetful than normal if I have no reference point?

Also practically every article talks about children

Very few talk about adults

Imma just go to reddit to get some expert opinions from the very smart people there

> missing details

This is something literally everyone does, how bad does it need to be to fall outside the boundaries of normal

Bbrk24

@user RIGHT?

@user If it interferes with your day-to-day life

Everyone forgets their keys every now and then. If it's a regular occurrence, that's a problem.

user

Ah ok

Looks like i probably don’t have adhd then, I’m just bad at time management+lazy+sloppy, not enough to screw up my life all that much outside of academics

—-There go my dreams of becoming an amphétamine dealer—-

Bbrk24

A lot of people I know with ADHD, myself included, fall into the ""high-functioning"" category: apparently fine at school/work, but a disorganized mess at home

lyxal

@user but mr white why would you want to distribute such a drug that you can't make yourself?

user

You know how hard it is to get pseudo?

lyxal

03:31

you don't need that

user

@Bbrk24 oh so you can kinda make yourself prioritize school/work but that results in the rest being neglected?

Bbrk24

Yeah

It's also why so many of us hate the word "high-functioning"

lyxal

@user besides, why wouldn't you want to have a signature blue colour?

user

Ngl i used to think high functioning meant like functioning at a higher level than the average person because i first heard the term in the context of autism

@lyxal how are we going to cook without pseudo , mr white?

lyxal

methylamine

duh

user

03:34

Was thinking about savants but i guess rain man would probably be “low functioning “

@lyxal methyma-what?

lyxal

you've watched part of season 2 right?

user

Yeah

S2e4/5

lyxal

then how do you not know what they use?

user

Jesse is unable to pronounce methylwhatever when white hands him that shopping list

Iirc

lyxal

that's not something you get from the shops :p

user

03:37

Like the list of stuff to buy

Ik they end up obtaining it through question able means

lyxal

I know but I'm talking about when he does know how to pronounce it

user

Ah

Rydwolf Programs

I'm down to two unfinished assignments!

Both are due Friday, and I don't expect to get any more, so that means school is basically over Friday (which is also my last AP test)

lyxal

05:20

thanks visio

worst part is that I can't delete it

now it's just permanently on the page

got rid of the box it was stuck in and it stayed

can't even move it

math scat

07:24

what.

@DLosc maths teachers debating whether to cancel sunnyv2, yup

lyxal

07:44

@mathscat visio

$1000 software and they can't even spell return correctly

It's even worse because I'm on the professional version of visio

Thank goodness it's free with student benefits lol

Ginger

11:10

@DLosc can't believe they're cancelling cancel

Ginger

11:41

today in US news: Montana has become the first state to "ban" TikTok

I'm using "ban" in quotes here because 1. it doesn't take effect till next year, 2. it only fines appstores that distribute the app, not people who have it installed, and 3. it's probably going to be challenged before it goes into effect

Ginger

13:09

hey @mousetail what're the criterion for a finished chat client?

mousetail

We did have a list right? Somewhere in TNB

Ginger

I'm not sure

I don't think there's a list

but my client now supports all of the non-RO message operations

mousetail

Nice

Ginger

so it is now usable by the general public

and therefore I will now be putting it on GitHub

mousetail

I'd consider that winning if you want to

Ginger

13:12

cool

just a few things I need to take care of first tho

oh wait, I forgot the starboard

nevermind lol

lemme add that real quick

mousetail

Did you get the user list?

I wanted to plagarize that

Ginger

yeah, I forgot that too

Ginger

13:36

stupid starboard

Dannyu NDos

14:00

Wanna eat some?

Ginger

oh nooooooooo

Rydwolf Programs

14:34

> True story: I was once prevented from leaving a neutron-science facility at Los Alamos after the seat of my pants set off a radiation alarm on exit. This was odd because the neutron beam had been off for weeks.

> It was a Saturday, so the radiation safety technician on call didn't arrive for half an hour — at which point I was clean, so the detective questions began. I had spent the day sitting on a plastic step stool. The tech looked at it, said that radon's decay products are concentrated by static electricity, and told me that I needed to get a real chair.

DLosc

15:25

in The Nineteenth Byte, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:23, by DJMcMayhem

D:< Y U NO CRITERIA? — Matthew Roh 1 hour ago

Ginger

17:54

so, uh, Snowy just broke 4k notifications

in Snowpaw's Den, 44 secs ago, by Ginger

DLosc

Shoulda taken the screenshot when it hit 4096, smh /s

Ginger

friiiiiick

now I'm going to be bothered by that for the rest of the day, thanks DLosc :b

hey wait a minute how in the frick can chat edit messages if their markup gets converted server-side

ick

I'm about 90% sure that it saves the data of the message internally

AHAAAAAA

GOTCHA

there's a server endpoint for getting plain messages!

this is great, I can use this for all sorts of stuff

DLosc

18:17

@Ginger o7

Ginger

alright, time to ~~abuse~~ use this endpoint to make the starboard work better

mousetail

What endpoint did you find?

Ginger

~~I'll never tell~~

it lets you get the raw, unformatted text of messages

Rydwolf Programs

18:55

I've had The Kill by 30 Seconds to Mars stuck in my head all day and I have mixed feelings about that

On the one hand it's a good song

On the other hand 30 Seconds to Mars does weird stuff and their lead singer has a lot of accusations against him

Ginger

yikes

Rydwolf Programs

I asked Albert Einstein about his thoughts on it but he was pretty vague

via ChatGPT

Ginger

presenting: the mostly-final ~~form~~ design of Crosstalk

Rydwolf Programs

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

not you

SE

but UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ginger

oh no what'd they do

Rydwolf Programs

19:02

I may have just found something slightly concerning

Ginger

aw hell

whenever you say things like that I know shit has gotten real

Rydwolf Programs

Lemme check Meta, this may have been discovered already

Okay I can't find anything

But basically

Big privacy issue I just found

Ginger

1 min ago, by Ginger

aw hell

Rydwolf Programs

If we consider the timing of site activity to be private, which there is precedent for

Ginger

you have been silent for 5 minutes, this is very concerning

Rydwolf Programs

19:09

Writing a meta post

Ginger

ohhh boy

~~can't you at least tell me what it is first?~~

Rydwolf Programs

It's not anything big

Wait

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Q: Websockets can be used to spy on users' activity

Stack Exchange's removal of "last seen" has demonstrated that the time that users are active is considered private information. However, there are still a variety of ways to circumvent that, and I've found what I believe is a new one. SE's websockets have a <userid>-topbar endpoint. This is used ...

I posted about this exact thing a year ago 💀

Ginger

whoops!

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger Looking spiffy

Ginger

:D

I still need to actually make the starboard functional, but once that's done I'm uploading it to the Hub

...probably

I'm not sure if I want to expose the horrors of MonologueWidget to the world d:

Rydwolf Programs

19:15

@Ginger ...the Git one I hope?

Ginger

...yes, that one

Rydwolf Programs

"the hub" usually does not refer to the git one

Ginger

what other- oh goddammit

:/

that would certainly be interesting tho, maybe I could use that tool I found a while back for storing arbitrary data in YT videos

Rydwolf Programs

That would be something tho

ninja'd

Ginger

get noinja;d

agh

Rydwolf Programs

19:17

hah who's dammiy-nonija'd now

Ginger

I've been meta-noinja;d!

user

@RydwolfPrograms Docker Hub?

Rydwolf Programs

ofc

user

Cool cool cool

Ginger

agh I can't think of any other Hubs to make a joke about (besides, you know, that one)

user

19:20

@Ginger The one with images

Docker images, that is (is that the term? container images?)

Ginger

OSHub?

sounds like an actual thing

emanresu A

13

Q: Does a rock falling down a hill perform computation?

Imagine a rock in the shape of a chessboard with pieces in a certain configuration. Throw the rock down a particular hill. The hill is shaped in such a way that, given the correct throw, the chessboard-rock will be chipped and flinted in a deterministic way as it rolls and bounces down. At the en...

consciousness determinism computation

Ginger

@user I wouldn't know, I don't use Docker (⌐■_■)

emanresu A

Gotta love showerthoughts.se

user

A hub of images would be cool

Ginger

19:21

Did you mean: Imgur?

Rydwolf Programs

@user Yes

user

@emanresuA So many of their questions are "let's take this commonly-used word that doesn't have a clear definition to most people and ask whether it applies to a situation"

@Ginger Like VMs

Docker Hub but more bloated

Ginger

19:42

@emanresuA ugh, even their font is pretentious q:

Rydwolf Programs

20:14

Well it looks like I will be going to work tonight

yayyy

Nothing like wandering a parking lot for six hours instead of studying for your AP test the next morning

Might ask them if I can leave at 8 instead, that'd at least let me get some sleep

Also down to one more assignment in the whole school year

All the well-that's-sorta-an-assignment ones are also finished

And I confirmed with my multivar teacher that I don't need to do anything else to pass this semester (it's a pass-fail class)

So Ginger, if I write a back-end in Rust, would you be willing to collab on a semi-cursed chat program to end all semi-cursed chat programs?

Also wow Rye bread tastes gross

It's like eating rusty metal

I suppose that's why they call it a Rusty on Rye

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms wellllllll

I think Python's a better option for the backend, which I know you won't like, but hear me out

1. this isn't a product that end-users will have to mess with, so we don't need it to have a sensible packaging system

2. Python can be iterated way faster bc no compile time

3. I already have a Python toolchain on my/our VM

4. I know Python and I don't know Rust

Rydwolf Programs

20:31

@Ginger "no compile time"?

Ginger

well, I know some Rust, but not enough to actually be useful

Rydwolf Programs

Python takes as long to start up as Rust does to compile :p

Compilation time with Rust is like milliseconds

Ginger

what kinda programs have you been compiling- oh right Raspberry Pi

Rydwolf Programs

Unless you're on a single core or making a release build

Ginger

okay so maybe not #2, but we don't need a whole compiled language just for this

that's more my point

Rydwolf Programs

20:32

Rust is also really good for avoiding errors and weird multithreading/async stuff

mousetail

Rust can take a really long time to compile, especially the first time

Rydwolf Programs

My reasons for using it have nothing to do with compiled vs. interpreted

Python's just gross

Like Node

mousetail

When switching arcitectures it can take like 5 minutes

Rydwolf Programs

I would never trust it for long-running things

Ginger

I'll concede that, but I'll also note that I have not had to deal with any of that for the two Campfires

Rydwolf Programs

20:33

Good Rust code is also good Rust code

It's far more maintainable because it forces you to do things right up front

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms Snowy's been running for, like, 2 months straight

Rydwolf Programs

Gtg for either 10m or 7 hours

o/

Ginger

and that's with me writing most of the code

so TIL I Learned that depending on your dialect/accent "JSTOR" can apparently be pronounced "j-star"

I pronounce it "j-store", but apparently the "O" is pronounced like the "a" in "war" (according to The Wiki)

so if you pronounce "war" with an "ah" sound that's how you'd say it

DLosc

@Ginger More like 1 month, and I'm pretty sure it's been down a couple of times ;P

Ginger

only because I've had to make changes to their client! and that's still better than Vyxal Bot, who cannot stop crashing!

If Vyxal Bot had a physical form and were within glaring distance I would be glaring at it right now

Ginger

22:38

@RydwolfPrograms Chat Bridge is almost done!

it can currently:
- Send and recieve chat messages
- Send announcements
- Listen to players joining and leaving
- Remotely execute commands

am I missing anything?

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