The Sand Trap

lyxal

00:05

I made the TOUGHEST phone lock in the entire world.

►

Ginger

00:19

I'll take clickbait thumbnails for $400, Alex

lyxal

man really threw the phone in a lake with an alligator tho

Ginger

00:43

suboptimal deals

user

01:38

@lyxal How does that prove phone locks?

The gators around here can barely do SQL injections, let alone hack into phones

lyxal

the gator bites people trying to access the phone

which is in a block of cement

which is in the bottom of the lake where the alligator is

user

Oh, so the gator is part of the lock, not a malicious actor trying to crack it

lyxal

yup

move over apple icloud lock

this new method is much better

:p

Rydwolf Programs

04:00

@Ginger How do perms work with the commands?

Ginger

11:04

@RydwolfPrograms status-notmyproblem

if you want to implement a perms system you do that on the CB server side

makes the code simpler for the client

(to clarify, the CB client is the MC server)

Rydwolf Programs

13:51

It's hard to resist the urge to keep updating and improving SOCK², even tho I know it's a week until the end of school lol

@Ginger Don't "store" and "war" rhyme for pretty much everyone?

Don't think I've heard any dialects where "war" sounds like "wario"

Seggan

I’ve heard it a few time

@RydwolfPrograms what’s sock2 again?

Rydwolf Programs

My proxy setup

Seggan

Ah

user

16:29

@RydwolfPrograms Not for me, at least

I pronounce the "o" like the one in "blow"

And the "a" like "awe"

Do you say staur and war? Or stohr and wohr?

DLosc

17:22

@user I say wohr (pronounced the same as "wore"). Looks to be an example of the horse-hoarse merger.

user

Huh, interesting

How have I not noticed people pronounce stuff that way before?

Seggan

So I've been thinking about how useless LLMs are

then i realized: they are not all useless

LLMs are good at one thing: interpreting natural language

so say I hook up GPT to a discord bot, and with a few of the right prompts I can probably get it to do spam flagging

mousetail

Be careful, it might get false positives

Seggan

assuming you can get the right prompt for it to constrain its answers to something dumb code can parse

mousetail

there is a reason smokey posts in a chatroom rather than flagging itself

Seggan

17:32

@mousetail yeah, that's why I said flagging, not detection

As in humans still do the actual work of banning

mousetail

So basically smokey 2.0

Seggan

Yeah

or you can use it to implement natural language commands

mousetail

Seems like it would be a interesting project, interested to see how it goes

Seggan

instead of some slashes you can say "hey bot, do x y and z for me"

mousetail

Chances are bot will say "Sure thing, " then do the opposite of what you intend

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Seggan

17:35

@mousetail I never said I'll actually do it lol. Although if @RydwolfPrograms lets me use his OpenAI subscription...

mousetail

If you decide to do it, I'm interested to see how it goes

user

@Seggan They're far from useless, as long as you recognize their limitations

They're great for entertainment, for summarizing long and annoying articles, for getting definitions of random words/phrases (including slang), for suggesting ideas

ChatGPT is 10x more creative than I will ever be

Ginger

17:57

~~and you can turn them into furries and have them tell R-rated jokes~~

user

> entertainment

Ninja'd :P

@Seggan Apparently it's very cheap, so you could always pay for it yourself

Seggan

Due to circumstances I can't :(

@user no it's not, it's humans that are creative

user

Guess I'm not human :(

@Seggan I feel ya, I'm an adult and still don't have access to any money (I have a card in my name but my parents pay for it and use it to get the cashback rewards lmao)

@march ONE TIME I GOT RADON ON MY BUTT — rob ♦ yesterday

I'm concerned about why this person is checking the radioactivity of their dryer in the first place

Seggan

@user I have money but it's all cash

user

Ah

Seggan

18:11

My only gift card I spent on ksp2

user

I have a $20 note

Seggan

i can't use the cash for online purchases for reasons

user

I'll get access to my card next semester since I'll actually need to buy stuff then, maybe I can make my own ChatGPT Discord bot

Seggan

It's not actually a ChatGPT bot I'm proposing, but one that uses it for natural language processing

user

Anyone know how hurry and furry used to be pronounced before the merger?

@Seggan Isn't that a ChatGPT bot?

A bot hooked up to ChatGPT

Seggan

18:16

In my mind that's more of a bot that acts as a discord interface to chatgpt

user

Ah ok you're drawing a distinction between something that directly pipes stuff from ChatGPT and something that does some processing

@user Oh there's audio recordings, should listen to those later

Seggan

Yeah

@user the hurry is pronounced more like "uh"

user

That's how I pronounce furry too

Oh wait is it the length of the vowel?

Seggan

Yeah

user

Hurry has a longer "uhh"?

Ah

Seggan

18:21

@user no

shorter

user

oh

Ginger

18:37

sometimes when I'm bored I like to read through the "Toxic body detected" flagged posts on Metasmoke

> Metasmoke is violating my freedom of speech.

xkcd.com/1357 moment

we've also got the return of Berodrito Pembrunk

user

Why do Islam, EL&U, and Ask Ubuntu feature at the top of that pie chart?

I get SO but those three sites aren't even that popular

Ginger

I guess those groups have very strong opinions?

user

EL&U?

Ginger

Grammar Police

user

I get that Islam is religion and Ask Ubuntu is Linux

@Ginger Ah, it's all starting to come together

ELL is right after AU too

I'm surprised Math and Christianity aren't higher up

Math definitely feels like it should be fighting SO for the spot of most toxicity generated

Why delete that lol

Ginger

18:42

because it's a reference to a webcomic, but I can't find the link

user

Especially since Math.SE has a lot of users (not as many as SO but still)

Ginger

and I try not to make obscure references without context

user

Ah ok

Ginger

it's the post titles that amuse me the most

user

The false positives are funnier than the true positives

Ginger

18:44

> [$!X$] YOU GLORFINDEL <Japanese text>

user

Can't put a screenshot here because they're NSFW but I am tempted to click on all of them to figure out the context

Ginger

> Why is Stack Overflow so fked?

good question

user

Oh it looks like a lot of the questions on Islam.SE talk about sex-related stuff, which gets them flagged as false positives

3

Q: A great use of the f-word

Can someone analyse this sentence for me please? I heard a trucker say this, in the workshop, when we told him the starter motor on his truck was knackered. To our amusement he said: "Fuck, the fucking fucker's fucked!" I reckon it's a pretty good effort, being a 5 word sentence with only one ...

descriptive-grammar

Ginger

there's also metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging/logs/unflagged, which is full of people claiming to be "the admin of Stack Exchange"

user

lol what

Ginger

18:46

yes really

mousetail

@user The answer suggesting "Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgh!" as a translation is great

user

What are those for?

Scammers?

mousetail

Probably, threatening a ban is a common scam technique

Ginger

yeah, they all have the same content too

> Please let me know what you think I should be able to Die the song I should be able to get it to enjoy the music haha I don't have any money on it and it will work out better for me if that's okay with you.

it's not really intelligible tho

user

The internet is such a weird place

Ginger

18:48

agreed

good thing it's all out there and not in here

user

Yeah in here we're all normal well-adjusted human beings

Ginger

yup

nothing weird here

user

(please don't check the transcript, anyone coming here)

Seggan

They can't see that without coming in here

Ginger

I stand by what I said, that tracker should've been detected

user

18:54

sadlfwefaishdpvc

Ginger

exactly

ಠ_ಠ

user

:|

Ginger

the body is an ad for a guy calling himself "Hacknetcyberprofessor"

> Hacknetcyberprofessor was the one that saved me from being forever poor.

okay why tf are there so many spammers named "Berodrito Pembrunk"

user

Have you considered that maybe it's just one person/botnet?

Ginger

it's probably a botnet

there are too many posts for it to be one person

Googling the name only gives results on SE tho

wtf is this lmao

blech, I just found one for a metaverse [spicy times] company

not gonna link that here

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

emanresu A

20:31

Rydwolf Programs

21:33

@Seggan Sure, lmk if you need a key and how much budget you'll need

Seggan

Budget?

Rydwolf Programs

@user I'm guessing they just made a regrettable impulse purchase and are trying to justify their ownership of a $100 geiger counter

@Seggan Yeah, Snowy gets by on like $3/mo but I need to know what to set the cap at (in case the key gets leaked or something)

Seggan

What does the budget determine

Rydwolf Programs

No just like, a budget of how much you expect it to cost. So I know what to set the spending limit to

Idr how much the tokens cost

Oh right

> $0.002 / 1K tokens

There's a ton of other models tho: openai.com/pricing

Ginger

yo @RydwolfPrograms I'm pretty much done with Chat Bridge

any other features you want?

Rydwolf Programs

21:44

There's only one feature I want and that's chat bridging. If that works we're good :p

Ginger

it does indeed work

as I said, I've added chat relaying, user join/leave events, announcements, and remote command execution

just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious

but apparently not, so I guess I'll go ahead and put this on ~~the Hub~~ GitHub

oh waiiit, I was gonna add getting a user list

lemme do that real quick

Ginger

22:07

ok, added that and TPS

I think that oughta do it

Ginger

22:22

@RydwolfPrograms Published!

now that that's done we can start the fun bit

Rydwolf Programs

Nice!

Ginger

github.com/GingerIndustries/ChatBridge/tree/v1.0.0

don't look too hard at the code, you might regret it

you'll definitely hate me when you figure out what protocol I'm using

Rydwolf Programs

Magic Wormhole?

Ginger

no, but that'd be funny

so are you gonna write your own CB client or use mine?

Rydwolf Programs

No clue

Ginger

22:26

fair warning: I'm writing mine in Python

do with that what you will

okay, now I need to figure out how tf I run a modded server

nice, the official wiki has a guide

Ginger

22:44

ok, what mods shall I have

Rydwolf Programs

hyper-neutrino would be a good start, caird's a good one too

Okay controversial opinion

I think the gun emoji should not have been turned into a water pistol

You don't protest things by censoring language itself

Especially when that creates sometimes dangerous ambiguity

Ginger

23:07

@RydwolfPrograms cannot tell if /srs or /j

I suspect /j tho

Rydwolf Programs

Yes :p

mod mod: adds mods

Ginger

hey bro we heard you liked mods

/srs what mods should I have on the server

Rydwolf Programs

I'm a vanilla kinda guy so idk

Ginger

I'm asking now because anything that requires worldgen needs to be done before I start the server for the first time

obviously CB

Rydwolf Programs

Okay why do people who post cute cat videos have to edit the description when the cat dies

Ginger

23:10

probably also want a- wtf

@RydwolfPrograms bruuuuh

Rydwolf Programs

Like bro I just wanna see floofy boi popping water balloons not hear about how he tragically died of kidney disease at 14

Ginger

:/

as I was saying: probably also want a chunk-claiming mod

Create and ancillary stuff, IE, maybe a magic mod?

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger ...is what someone would say if they were boring and hated chaos

WAIT do it factions style :p

You start with 10 chunk claims and every time someone kills you you lose a claim

Ginger

do you seriously think that I'm going to let lyxal on a server without a chunk-claiming mod

because I will not

anyway: m a g i c

Rydwolf Programs

This is creative right

or survival

~~or spectator~~

Ginger

23:14

creative

(although you can put yourself in survival if you want, I'm going to add a bot command for that)

Rydwolf Programs

@RydwolfPrograms Truly the xkcd 2437 of a server

Ginger

how does screen work? I'd like to run the server in it

Rydwolf Programs

First you type screen

Then you hit enter

Ginger

First you install screen

Rydwolf Programs

(If you're asking about exiting it, it's Ctrl+A then D)

@Ginger It's preinstalled on debian isn't it

If not it's just called screen in apt/dnf

Ginger

23:17

nope lul

I installed it from apt

yeah but like how do I use it to run the server in a manner that lets me use the recovery console

Rydwolf Programs

It just drops you in a terminal

Do it the same way you'd run the server normally

Then ^A+D out and it'll run in the bg

Ginger

aight

Rydwolf Programs

You can screen -ls later to find the ID and screen -r back in

Ginger

and I assume I use screen -dmS server ./run.sh for the service command?

Rydwolf Programs

wait what

What's a service command again?

Ginger

23:20

systemd service

Rydwolf Programs

Ohhh oh wait you're running screen in systemd?

Ginger

yus

Rydwolf Programs

Wack but yeah you'd do that

Ginger

that was my intention

what other options are there?

Rydwolf Programs

I'd use a more descriptive name than "server" tho lol

Ginger

23:21

yeah I know that was just an example

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger Well I just don't really see why you'd be using systemd here in the first place

You probably don't want autorestart right

Ginger

I guess not?

why wouldn't I tho

Rydwolf Programs

idk

Well you wouldn't want to autorestart 'cause it'd mean something's broken

And it would mean stopping the server for updates would cause it to just immediately start up again

which would be silly

and goofy

and just generally wacky

Ginger

you sound like lyxal lol

hmm, I need a cool name for the server

Rydwolf Programs

The with a trailing space

Ginger

23:30

that is an awful idea

I'm sure you can do worse tho

Rydwolf Programs

Someday I'm going to open a restaurant where all of the menu items (mostly sandwiches) start with "the". One at the bottom will just be called "The". It'll cost 98¢ and the description will be blank. Anyone who orders it will be given two slices of bread.

It'll be good bread dw

Ginger

lol

okay, what's a stupid TNB in-joke that nobody else will understand

(cc @lyxal)

user

@Ginger Every TNB in-joke

Bot butter

Ginger

~~The Butter Factory~~

user

What's this for?

Ginger

23:33

the Minecraft server I am about to set up

lyxal

@Ginger fridge nuking

Ginger

I considered that but I'm not sure it lends itself to a name

user

"Fridge Nukes"

"The Server of Limb Stealing"

Rydwolf Programs

FWIW the MOTD of my server was always just the default lol

Ginger

I'm gonna go with "The Butter Factory" for now

lyxal

23:52

@Ginger goofy sounding mfer

Rydwolf Programs

PLDI: Writing helpful information about how to implement the programming language of your dreams
Me writing the spec for rSN 2:

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