The Sand Trap

des54321

00:58

i have discovered that some newish update to steam has made it so that you cannot cancel verifying a games files

it used to be a separate window the the verification check that had a cancel button

now its just this and its stuck at 0%

des54321

01:09

i have spent the last 3 days trying to get this one fucking steam game to work, with little to no success

I am now attempting to move this 78 GB game to my C: drive, which only has 85ish GB of free space, in the hopes that this might fix something

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des54321

the game starts up fine, but then i need to sign into my xbox live account, and the window that pops up for that a completely empty white window

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yikes

Radvylf Programs

03:34

Opinion: Glitter should be illegal

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seriously fuck glitter

lyxal

no, I don't think I will

because then it'd get all over places it shouldn't be

user

13:43

@lyxal Can't get pure helium for it

lyxal

what?

bruh stop overthinking it

user

Bad joke, nvm

lyxal

just grab a frying pan you dumbnut

user

Good idea

lyxal

or use a wall or something idk

no need to get all chemistry on me when physics works just fine

smh

user

13:44

No, I'm too thick-headed for that

@lyxal bruh chemistry is just physics

Except really really complicated

Hmm I could try walking into a college bus

Get my tuition forgiven

lyxal

I hear that's the new american dream

user

Yeah

lyxal

at least, that's what the top post on r/2irl4meirl says

user

Dying with less than a few millino dollars of debt

@lyxal Hadn't heard of that sub before

lyxal

it's 2meirl4meirl

missed 2 letters lol

user

13:46

Is it cringe twitter reposts like meirl?

Oh ok

2meirl4meirl has decent content

2meirl42meirl4meirl is...mmmm

lyxal

I'd move this conversation to Off-Topic TNB but my RO powers don't exactly extend to these parts of Chat lol

because this isn't exactly Scala

user

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@lyxal tbh it's noot that new

lyxal

yeah, the meme I was talking about was posted 2 years ago lol :p

user

@user Wait no it's filled with super depressing posts

When did this happen

lyxal

> For relatable posts that are too real for /r/meirl or /r/me_irl. Meaning jokes/posts about mental health issues and self deprecating humour.

I would assume since all time

user

13:52

lol I guess I just didn't notice before

Yeah if you ignore the suicidal posts the rest are funny

lyxal

pretty much

thejonymyster

now we need 2meirl4meirlbutnotmeirlenough42meirl4meirl

user

ngl the depressing posts are also kinda funny

@thejonymyster /s/butnotmeirlenough/nottoomeirl

thejonymyster

aha

lyxal

r/thirdsub

thejonymyster

13:54

one sub i want to make i havent gotten around to is r/thereisadeadlypoisonousspideratthebottomofthissub

and as you scroll down people are increasingly more afraid of the first post

user

I can't find it

lyxal

just a reminder that subreddit names have a max char limit of 20

continue with your regularly scheduled jokes

user

Aww

lyxal

my favourite sub is r/vyxal

thejonymyster

@lyxal OTL im done for...

user

13:59

@lyxal There's literally nothing there

lyxal

@user wdym it's really great and populated and totally wasn't made just now by me for a quick and cheap joke here

thejonymyster

thats a little surprising actually

lyxal

(disclaimer: I made it a few minutes ago for a quick and cheap joke here)

thejonymyster

that too is surprising

no uh, id expect there to be a vyxal sub

lyxal

really?

wow

thejonymyster

14:02

... well, now there is, so i was right, retroactively?

lyxal

probably :p

it's just that with the context of only having recently made a discord server for the language, a subreddit would be relatively not feasible

thejonymyster

i mean as one of the most popular programming languages out there, youd expect...

lyxal

*esolangs

there's barely any esolang users on reddit

doesn't make sense to have a subreddit except for the lols

thejonymyster

there SHOULD be esolang users on reddit. OR else !

sorry im so bored at work

user

@thejonymyster Even the most popular esolangs don't have those many users. Esolangs are, well, esoteric

lyxal

14:03

thejonymyster

they started actually paying attention to my productivity so i cant slack off as much

:P

lyxal

I'm sorry how tf is there 31 people on the subreddit?

thejonymyster

what sub?

lyxal

r/vyxal obviously

thejonymyster

holy hell

they were just waiting patiently

user

14:05

Bots?

lyxal

I think the counter is a little broken :p

thejonymyster

for you to make it

lyxal

@user maybe.

Could be new sub caching bots

@thejonymyster would you like me to send memes to ease the pain?

because rustles through meme stash I've got funny stuff that should make things bearable

that's a sample of my collection

tell me if you require more

thejonymyster

14:46

lmao

thank u

user

15:37

@lyxal idk about thejonymyster but I would like some

Radvylf Programs

16:35

Ah, YT comments. Was in a discussion about the master vs. main thing, where I commented that main's a more clear description in the first place and that even if it on;y makes a single person uncomfortable, it takes five minutes to switch for future projects so why not, and I get this gem:

> can you explain how the word 'master', without any context whatsoever is a racial slur? If you think about this for more than a few seconds I think you'll answer your own

Hey everyone, here's today's news digest: 3f198e976b3b64d65202f34d245de717a766db576a2c7d8d73e434c1

pxeger

ato.pxeger.com/…

very funny

Radvylf Programs

Gross, use printf

Sure is convenient how SE never lets you send the same messages twice except when you don't want to >:|

pxeger

printf %s news | sha224sum?

Radvylf Programs

printf 'news' | sha224sum

pxeger

you shouldn't pass user input to the first argument of printf

Radvylf Programs

16:44

It's not user input it's Radvylf input

pxeger

hmm.

Radvylf Programs

Like, that's like saying I shouldn't use REPLs because I could type in arbitrary code, and running arbitrary code is dangerous :p

user

The only thing you need to know about master vs. main is that main is shorter. That's it. No point in discussing it further

pxeger

I'm just in the instinctive mindset that you should only ever put a format specification, and never anything resembling data, as the first argument of printf

not that it even really matters in shell like it does in C

Radvylf Programs

Well my formal specification is that the user input will be formatted like the string news :p

pxeger

16:51

Well, today's news digest is echo -n news | sha224sum, but maybe tomorrow's news digest is echo -n NEWS | sha224sum

Radvylf Programs

SHA-224 doesn't get enough attention, its big brother with the fancy power-of-two steals all its fame.

Yeah, my reasoning is that "main" is more descriptive than "master" (what's it in charge of?), more concise, and more consistent with other stuff. It's just a bonus that some people dislike "master" due to the master/slave terminology thing.

(But of course even suggesting that that last one's a valid factor to take into consideration results in far more impassioned rants against "the SJWs" and "snowflakes" than is at all reasonable)

Ginger

I leave for 2 hours and yall are making jokes about digesting news

pxeger

do you need a minute to digest that?

Ginger

*rimshot*

you might say I made a hash of things

or is that too cryptic of a joke for you?

pxeger

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before we turn this into a joke chain that fills up TNB

des54321

17:22

@RadvylfPrograms your first mistake was trying to have a meaningful discussion in a youtube comments section

Radvylf Programs

Yeah...

hyper-neutrino

even ignoring historical context, main literally just makes more sense to me lol

so even if literally zero people in the entire world were uncomfortable with it I'd still switch to main

youtube comments are not a place for logical discussions though; i think only twitter is worse :P

Radvylf Programs

Yeah I've had lots of...fun poltiics-tangential discussions on YT lol

hyper-neutrino

i only really have somewhat politically related discussions either on se chat or in private discord channels/group dms cuz I don't really have any interest in intellectual discussions in places like yt anymore lol

ever since I stopped using Quora I decided it's really just not worth the time to attempt

Mayube

20:25

The halting problem was solved on 2041 by Prof. James Jameson, who had devoted most of his life to the problem. As it happens, the solution was a small lizard Jameson found in his yard one day. The lizard would only eat paper, and specifically only paper that had a halting program written upon it.

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Ginger

Dispatches from an Alternate Universe #002

Mayube

To demonstrate this, Jameson presented the lizard with a piece of paper upon which he had written while (1) {} The lizard looked at the camera with an expression of unamusement. Jameson then took the paper, and between the braces wrote break;. The lizard lept up and devoured the paper from his hands.

Radvylf Programs

If that lizard existed it would break every cryptographic protocol, solve every open mathematical question, and quite possibly save billions of lives. Hopefully nobody steps on it.

I ehar the NSA has a special pair of spiky boots on hand in case it ever shows up.

Ginger

did you just write that now?

Mayube

@Ginger me?

Ginger

20:29

yes

Mayube

Yeah, my brain gets a lil loopy after a long day of crying over other peoples' code

Ginger

wow

Radvylf Programs

You're rather easily impressed lol

Mayube

Oh crap I accidentally said on 2041 instead of in 2041

Ginger

I am

Mayube

20:30

@RadvylfPrograms Hey give em a break, maybe they can't afford imagination :D

Radvylf Programs

We all have imagination lizards, maybe Ginger's ran away

Ginger

I have a Ginger Technologies GT114 Humor Processing Card

is that good enough?

Mayube

my imagination lizard evolved into an imagination dragon, then got fat and lazy and started making bad music instead

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Radvylf Programs

My imagination lizard keeps getting fed JS and PHP and it sometimes goes missing and comes back with a long beard and a moderately good shitpost carved into the wall of a cave

Mayube

20:32

When questioned about how this lizard could possibly know whether a program halts or not, Jameson gave a shrug. "Magic, I guess."

thejonymyster

my imagination lizard keeps poisoning my imagination spock

Ginger

my imagination lizard moves backwards in time and exists in 4 dimensions of space

Radvylf Programs

What if you gave it a program that connected to a camera, watched the lizard, and infinitely looped until the lizard declared that the program it was given would eventually halt.

Or worse, waited until it decided the program would go on forever

Mayube

Unfortunately, two days later, Prof. Jameson snapped and killed the lizard. He was arrested by authorities and seen being dragged away screaming that his whole life was a waste and that science is a lie. He died of unknown causes whilst awaiting trial

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms The lizard would explode.

Mayube

20:35

Well I guess we'll never know thanks to that asshat Jameson

Ginger

lizard emulation when

Mayube

@RadvylfPrograms The lizard actually considers all programs it looks at to run within a sandbox, so the paper would also have to define the camera, at which point it's no longer a real camera, just one on paper

and therefore can't look at the very real lizard

Radvylf Programs

The lizard was actually the ghost of Alan Turing in Narnia, and he just thinks really quickly and writes it down, and since the time is weird in Narnia it seems instant

des54321

@Mayube but if the paper defines the lizard the camera is looking at, then that lizard has to be looking at a piece of paper with the same program, and that paper has to define its lizard, and etc etc ad absurdium

Mayube

@des54321 the lizard has a finite stomach

also the lizard is not a computer, nor a piece of code, so if the paper defined the lizard it would no longer be a program

and therefore the lizard wouldn't eat it

Radvylf Programs

20:40

What if the code is a polyglot

Ginger

what on earth is going on here

Radvylf Programs

@Ginger chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240

Mayube

@RadvylfPrograms the lizard only knows D

but by 2041 D has incorporated a rust-like borrow checker and become the defacto language for all types of development.

Ginger

bold of you to assume that Y2K38 won't have ended civilization by then

Mayube

@Ginger Society banded together and sacrificed Linus Torvalds to the Unix gods in 2035, and they gave us 400 extra years

Ginger

20:48

wow

Radvylf Programs

Nah everyone just started using floats for the time. In a few million years seconds will start to pass slightly faster.

Mayube

When asked what we plan to do in 2438, world leader Jake Paul shrugged and said "Iunno about you but I plan to be dead by then" before sticking out his tongue at the gathered press and shotgunning a white claw

Ginger

the year is 2041. the Stack Exchange network is long dead. chat.stackexchange.com is still online, kept alive by a coalition of TNB users running a custom backend.

Mayube

having rewritten it in D

Ginger

the nation of Python is under constant attack from armies of D users seeking to steal their tabs and brackets to fuel their Doomsday D-vice

user

20:54

@Mayube lmao that would actually be not bad

D is cool

Also, this is getting kinda off-topic, wanna move it?

Ginger

colorado is violently radioactive and flooded with spiders

user

@Ginger This is made worse by the colonies on Phobos revolting

curious

21:31

thejonymyster

mission success

Radvylf Programs

@curious Thanks!

thejonymyster

oh hey, ←←

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there we go

thanks

user

Woohoo

des54321

21:32

here we are

thejonymyster

@RadvylfPrograms can we move this message back into tnb so we can have ←←← :P

curious

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@thejonymyster i don't think it would accumulate more arrows--all of the double-moved questions above it only have one arrow, and it only has two because the second arrow is just part of the message (since it was not itself ever moved)

thejonymyster

drat

Radvylf Programs

Wake up babe, possible new AP exams just dropped:

First one makes sense, AP version of another common science class, second one would be super cool, third one would be neat too (but would probably lead to a literal riot if it was added in my school district), and last one's a really interesting possibility

des54321

21:44

huh was AP precalc not already a thing?

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why would it have been

des54321

ah yeah I'm probably thinking of my states standardized precalc exam

thejonymyster

22:16

making a lang cause the last one i made was too bad

this time everything is an array which is good because that makes it apl basically

numbers are also an array

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