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12:00 PM
Something to do with copy pasting text?
 
@Wolgwang O.o
 
@user692942 Makes sense, given the image
 
@user692942 from where to where/
 
Well, I earned it now too...
 
@AnkitSharma pasted in this chat
 
12:02 PM
But I don't think I copied something on Meta.SE
 
A bit, yes.
I am defender of unicorn somehow :O
 
This text is simply a copy paste. Please ignore.
 
@YaakovEllis 🥲 So I reproduced whatever I did on chat.se on chat.so but didn't get the hat. 100 messages over a period of 4 hours chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/53661045#53661045
 
@Wolgwang was there a question here?
 
Just earned thought bubble on Sharepoint which I haven't been on for years!?!
 
12:04 PM
you seem to be very sure that you know what the hat criteria is
@user692942 your chat user profile is parented on sharepoint
 
@YaakovEllis I am sure I know nothing but I defended unicorn unintentionally and am happy with that
 
@AnkitSharma What :-)
 
@YaakovEllis weird how does that happen?
 
@user692942 Weird than this ?
 
@AnkitSharma you know what you did
 
12:06 PM
@AnkitSharma Had you typed konami?
 
A J
@YaakovEllis He reported the bug?
 
@Wolgwang yup
but not on main meta
 
@AnkitSharma Where?
 
I just got "defender of the Unicorn" hat but I don't know why. I've not even tried to do any of the things for it. I saw the scrambled message that should lead to (I suspect) a series of clues but I've not even deciphered it.
 
@Wolgwang WB page only
 
12:07 PM
@VLAZ Tried konami?
 
@Wolgwang Not consciously?
As in, no. Dunno if a weird thing triggered some weird keystrokes. I assume not.
 
I don't care what is the trigger just don't take my unicorn back \o/
 
I got the hat on MSE. AFAIK, the only thing I did was to start the browser and restore all my previous tabs.
 
@YaakovEllis I suppose that there is a big bug running with Defender. See above.
 
If it is being given on meta only then it should be related to that unicorn page
 
12:09 PM
@SPArcheon not that I know of
 
@YaakovEllis should people be able to get it like that?
 
@SPArcheon define "that"
 
3 mins ago, by VLAZ
I just got "defender of the Unicorn" hat but I don't know why. I've not even tried to do any of the things for it. I saw the scrambled message that should lead to (I suspect) a series of clues but I've not even deciphered it.
 
@VLAZ what message?
 
Y'all are assuming that the criteria for Defender has been unchanged since the start of the event. Any worthy Defender should know that they need to be flexible, and adapt to circumstance.
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12:12 PM
@CinCout added it.
 
@YaakovEllis hahaha
 
@YaakovEllis noted
 
@user692942 added what?
 
:59897442 where else to copy paste now
@CinCout manual key in hat list
 
To clarify - I saw the page yesterday. I didn't feel like deciphering, so I've not done it yet. Today I've not done anything I'd consider "abnormal". Most recently, I booted the laptop, and restored the previous Firefox session. Which opened a bunch of tabs from before but the Unicorn one wasn't among them.
 
12:13 PM
@AnkitSharma What?
 
@AnkitSharma great
 
@CinCout added the Manual Key hat to the list
 
@user692942 got it
 
Hat it manual not automated :P — Ankit Sharma 2 mins ago
 
12:15 PM
@YaakovEllis Is the "Game hat" with ID -100 a leftover from the "right to jump for joy" from last year?
 
FWIW to help with deciphering: there was a problem with the awarding of Manual Key - whatever the criteria is, it will only be taking into account actions performed starting today at around 08:00 UTC or so
@gparyani definitely maybe
 
@YaakovEllis I also just got that hat before I got the unicorn defender one.
 
@YaakovEllis One would just want to know if the game has started yet or not... Since you know, one hast already lost quite a bit time last year looking for a time gated hat BEFORE the hat was available... (and please forgive the adeptus speak here)
 
@SPArcheon are you asking to know if there is a game that has or will start?
 
@VLAZ whoa. Wasn't aware of its existence!
 
12:19 PM
UIF VOJDPSO IBT CFFO LJEOBQQFE!
XIFSF JT UIF EFGFOEFS PG UIF VOJDPSO OPX?!?!
TUBZ UVOFE…
 
@YaakovEllis I thought you would say "https://i.stack.imgur.com/whadS.png" XD
 
Also, for what it's worth: last year, the team broke from tradition and didn't disclose the triggers for the unsolved secret hats at the end, which they did for 2019 and earlier Bashes, so they could re-use the same triggers for this year's Bash. Those who want to try and guess may want to look at past activity from Winter 2020 for hints.
 
@VLAZ check the page source
 
@gparyani they kept secret so that they can recycle it maybe :D
WE have no festiwal hats or tehy are secret O.o
 
@YaakovEllis So that keyboard prank was on SO and I visited SO today. It is the trigger?
@VLAZ Had you visited SO today?
 
12:23 PM
@Wolgwang you need to be more specific with your definition. Visiting SO is not the trigger.
 
@Wolgwang Yes. And MSO, and RPG.SE, and MSE.
 
@YaakovEllis left you a message somewhere else. You should have a notification.
Also worth noticing, I just got "I voted" on SO.
......
 
Guys! there is an MSO/SO logo on manual hat
 
@SPArcheon "stay tuned…" means the same as last year
 
@Wolgwang I got the hat on SO, I assumed it's because of that.
 
12:25 PM
Hmm but I got it on MSE
 
@VLAZ what you did
 
@AnkitSharma I don't know.
 
@AnkitSharma
 
@YaakovEllis was I way off the mark with the spotting scope criteria?
 
It's possible it's because I used the keyboard shortcuts.
 
12:26 PM
I have a theory
 
@Wolgwang CV referring to "Close Vote"?
 
@YaakovEllis Will owning an actual The Key device (that hasn't been reprogrammed) make it easier to earn Manual Key? I own one, but I've reprogrammed it.
 
@Wolgwang i see nothing
 
@user692942 No
 
@Wolgwang is there a shortcut key for close voting perhaps?
 
12:27 PM
@user692942 Yes, M -> C
I have not used that.
I used F to get the newest questions.
 
I didn't use any keyboard shortcut
 
@AnkitSharma So 1) Today a question was closed and opened on MSE and CV. 2) I am very active in adding hats on Meta hat list post which requires shortcut
@YaakovEllis Using ctrl+v to paste something in markdown triggers it?
 
@Wolgwang no
 
I have used it extensively for pasting images today :-/
 
@Wolgwang AFAIK, I wasn't even writing anything when I got the manual hat.
 
12:30 PM
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A: Can I actually buy a copy-paste keyboard like the Stack Overflow April Fool's "The Key"?

gparyaniI ordered one of the initial 2,000 keyboards, and I've just received mine today. Here are some shots of the box it came in: Opening the box: Here's a close-up shot at the cable. It's wound like a telephone handset cord so it's long but not unwieldy. The keyboard itself uses a USB-C interface,...

 
The manual key hat was delivered for triggering it today, or it was something like "You triggered it yesterday, so you got it today because of the bug"?
 
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A: Manual key not showing up on hat leaderboard

Yaakov Ellis Comp Sci, two hard things: cache invalidation, names, off-by-one errors

 
@VLAZ Have you posted any answer today?
 
Coming to this....
Last year the Defender had TWO possible award trigger. The "cheating in the game" and the hidden quiz. The quiz was added later and was NOT available from the star.
Accessing the quiz at the start of the event gave a "stay tuned" message.
This year, we have a similar "stay tuned" message.
so, I only see three options:
a) the Defender hat trigger is not related to any future game the message could be a placeholder for or will have TWO triggers this year too
b) the users that got the hat got it because of a bug or hacking the script on that page
 
@Wolgwang No, I have not.
I started writing an answer on RPG.SE but I've not finished it. I went to SO and noticed I had the manual hat.
 
12:34 PM
@VLAZ Edit?
 
@Wolgwang Yes, most recent is 4 hours ago.
Two edits total on SO.
From today, that is.
 
@AnkitSharma Have you edited anything after 8 utc?
 
@Wolgwang on SO, I guess not
 
@AnkitSharma No, on any SE...
 
My most recent edit is from 07:52:58Z
 
12:38 PM
Hat Update: I voted is being awarded for both up and down votes
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Awesome!
I already found something to upvote so it doesn't matter for me, but it's nice that this inconsistency is fixed
 
@YaakovEllis Any inputs here ?
Ok
 
@Wolgwang just status-reviewed it. It is weird
but not a super high priority
and it's been that way since at least 2018 (I took over WB management in 2019, and haven't touched this logic yet)
 
@YaakovEllis ty :)
 
@AnkitSharma What happens if you edit a tag?
 
12:43 PM
manual key probably has something to do with copy-paste. It is the only thing I just did on meta.
copying the unicorn name from an old post and pasting it in the search box to see if it was referenced before.
Oddly, I had tried to copy some code from an SO answer before - didn't trigger anything.
currently trying to replicate on SO
 
@SPArcheon Hmmm I also did some copy-pasting here
 
@Wolgwang has to be something like that - copy&paste code from SO is a meme.
so, only natural to add an hat related to that.
 
I have copied text from a question and then pasted it in a comment today.
I suspect I might have done it multiple times, too.
Just a wild guess here but roman numerals? CV would be 105, IIRC.
 
@VLAZ so copy paste at least 105 characters on any site?
 
@VLAZ Am more interested in what you did to get that unicorn hat. Makes no sense imho unless there is a double trigger involved this year too.
 
12:50 PM
Dunno, it just connected into my brain that C and V are roman numerals.
CV = 105 indeed. And the charcode 105 = i
Dunno if that makes sense.
@SPArcheon No idea.
If anybody knows what should be triggering the hat, we can work it out perhaps. I might have stumbled upon it by accident.
 
@SPArcheon ^_^
@AnkitSharma
 
@Wolgwang so you got final trigger?
I got on meta
 
@AnkitSharma trying it on more se
 
@VLAZ look, I am trying to non waste any work Yaakov MAY have done (may because I am not sure of anything right now). If he is fine with it, I will explain why this feels so off to me.
 
wait let me also try
 
12:54 PM
I only mentioned it here because I think I got it wrong. Or by some very lucky accident, I suppose but I'm leaning on being awarded wrong.
 
@YaakovEllis Thought Bubble: Send a message in chat. The hat will be awarded to your chat parent user. Can you confirm it, please?
 
same trigger didn't work on differt site
 
@VLAZ interesting theory
 
For records, I had copied a comment from comment template post and commented.
 
Is satellite for wearing hats?
 
12:55 PM
@SPArcheon please speculate all you want. If you get the correct definition, I will confirm it.
 
I just got the manual key without posting anything, fwiw. I just wildly copied the contents of code blocks, entire bodies of answer/question and pasted it in an answer editor I've never posted. Sorry for being so unstructured in my attempts :)
 
@LukasRotter Same
@LukasRotter @YaakovEllis
 
I'll try a more structured approach on other sites. There seems to be a significant delay to actually receiving a hat. Any idea how long it takes?
 
Catija said 5 minutes, but I made a test today that I waited for almost 10 minutes, I think
 
@Wolgwang you need to be more specific with your definition. If you are asking whether "wildly copying the contents of code blocks, entir bodies..." is the trigger, then the answer is: no
 
1:00 PM
16 hours ago, by Catija
~ 5 minutes?
 
the scheduled job to award hats runs every 5 minutes
 
@YaakovEllis Can you confirm if the Thought Bubble trigger is this? Send a message in chat. The hat will be awarded to your chat parent user.
 
but there can be caching involved that can delay it showing up in your WB inbox by a few minutes
 
@YaakovEllis Aren't you being irritated by pings? :)
 
@RafaelTavares no
 
1:01 PM
@RafaelTavares No
 
@Wolgwang at the moment I am just in the room, so they dont bother me.
 
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@YaakovEllis is it close?
 
I've got 3 hats doing this... Maybe time is involved and it checks previous messages :(
 
@YaakovEllis Kitsune is "Vote to reopen and answer a question." (same trigger as last year)
 
1:02 PM
I can confirm that posting just a message doesn't trigger
 
I will be out Friday-Tuesday (Dec 17-21), please don't ping me then (or if you do, don't expect a reply), other staff will be monitoring here, feel free to ping staff who are in this room for hat confirmations
 
@RafaelTavares 3 hats?
 
@ThomasMarkov very close
 
@Wolgwang I mean, one hat in three different sites
 
9 hours ago, by Catija
Yeah. So I can confirm that reparenting if you already have the hat will just award the hat again, so any data you've collected about it with subsequent sites on chat.se is bad data.
 
1:04 PM
That's too bad
Thank you for mentioning it
 
@YaakovEllis both the Q and the A must have a positive score
 
@double-beep closer
 
@VLAZ About Defender of the Unicorn.
Last year @YaakovEllis added a game to the Bash site - a reskin of the Google Dinosaur game. People started finding ways to cheat, so he added a bounty - the ones who found a way to cheat and reported it got the hat.
At the same time, he also had the /unicorn url on the site (a reference to previous years when urls like /dog, /chicken and so on were part of an easter egg) give out a message. "Stay Tuned". Later, the page was changed to a quiz that awarded the same hat.
@VLAZ I hope this is clear enough.
 
@YaakovEllis Don't worry we will easily find all the secrets hat before next week Sun. XD
 
I just got manual key
No idea what for.
mmmmm
 
1:07 PM
@ThomasMarkov I am testing a theory
15 mins ago, by Wolgwang
user image
 
@Wolgwang I know what triggered it for me.
 
anyway,
 
@ThomasMarkov Listening :)
 
@SPArcheon What?
 
1:08 PM
@Wolgwang Not sure if it helps, but I tried pressing the i key and haven't gotten a hat for it yet. It's been a while now. Unless it's very slow, I assume I should have had it.
 
@Wolgwang Up there where I mentioned Kitsune to Yaakov, I copied that trigger text from last years hat post and pasted into here.
 
@Wolgwang there is an old user with that name apparently.
 
@YaakovEllis vote to close, edit, vote to reopen and answer a question
 
@double-beep I didnt edit the question that triggered it for me.
 
isn't it "Can a familiar attack with Magic Stone?"?
 
1:11 PM
@Wolgwang you might find them, but I wager that y'all aren't commited enough to guess all the triggers correctly by then.
 
@double-beep OH right, forgot about that one character edit.
Maybe youve got it.
 
@SPArcheon same name does not necessarily mean the same trigger
@double-beep for kitsune? nope
 
@SPArcheon IMO it must have a negative user id.
 
@YaakovEllis I think we continue to miss the point here you know...
 
you are oh-so-close to the definition for kitsune (from what someone wrote above)
 
1:16 PM
@YaakovEllis fyi:
> Uncaught TypeError: $(...).typeWatch is not a function
in /leaderboard/network
 
correction, now there are two.
this one is more sus, never posted, and could easily be a renamed sock of some staff member.
 
@YaakovEllis Are we supposed to include the "both actions must be during winter bash" bit?
 
@SPArcheon but it has too low reputation to chat with
 
Anyone received any hat in past 5-7 minutes?
@Dharman How did you get defender?
@YaakovEllis Copying something from Meta of a site and posting it as comments on the main site triggers?
manual key
 
@Wolgwang no
 
1:27 PM
@YaakovEllis Do I have to say broadly?
 
I dont understand "broadly" in this context
are you asking if you need to be precise in your definition?
 
Yes
 
Then the answer is: yes. I will only confirm a precise definition. But if you are almost there, I will let you know that you are close. In this case you are going in the right direction, but are off in a few ways
 
I see it is something between the process, searching, copying, pasting...
Fellow hat hunters
I copied "Be specific If you ask a vague question, you’ll get a vague answer. But if you give us details and context, we can provide a useful answer." from android.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2086/… and
Be specific If you ask a vague question, you’ll get a vague answer. But if you give us details and context, we can provide a useful answer. — Wolgwang 11 mins ago
What can we infer from thi?
Did same on HSM
In order to edit the question and try to get it reopened, I'm asking for some advice how best to modify the wording. — Wolgwang 5 mins ago
 
@Wolgwang I just got it on RPG by copying something from meta into chat.
 
1:38 PM
@ThomasMarkov Copying from meta is common
 
BTW, didn't someone mention the konami code plugin loaded on the WB site? where?
 
@ThomasMarkov Maybe you need to copy some text including a certain word (such as "question") and paste it somewhere?
 
@YaakovEllis Copying anything from meta triggers it ?
 
@Wolgwang not quite
 
@Wolgwang this could still just be half the trigger you know
 
1:40 PM
@CinCout Welp
 
@JasperHabicht The text I copied from meta.se to here was "Vote to reopen and answer a question.", the text I copied from rpg.meta was "What is Bountymas? Well, you go place bounties on questions that you think either need some more attention or have answers that you think are worthy of a bounty."
 
and i had copied
6 mins ago, by Wolgwang
In order to edit the question and try to get it reopened, I'm asking for some advice how best to modify the wording. — Wolgwang 5 mins ago
8 mins ago, by Wolgwang
Be specific If you ask a vague question, you’ll get a vague answer. But if you give us details and context, we can provide a useful answer. — Wolgwang 11 mins ago
 
So the string "question" would be in all of these
 
I have decided that I can no longer contribute my efforts to Stack Exchange and therefore I am stepping down as a moderator and planning on leaving the community. I will not be deleting my accounts or content, but I will not be actively participating. — Wolgwang 6 mins ago
 
@Wolgwang getting hats is easy, getting the trigger though :P
 
1:46 PM
I think that a javascript game replayer would be interesting and useful.

For a brief list of requirements - something that can display several variations and move comments as well as be fairly easily edited (at least for minor edits).
 
Im seeing several unicorn hats now
Including @double-beep
 
I have this "manual key" hat on Meta.SE but I didn't comment, edit, answer or ask
 
... What does the Manual Key hat look like?
 
@RafaelTavares copied something
 
@YaakovEllis @Catija trigger for Manual key: "Copy text on a meta site which contains the word "question" and paste it as a comment on the main site"
 
1:51 PM
@CinCout Confirmed "no"
 
@Wolgwang Idk, I tried reproducing on other sites, no success
 
@Wolgwang oh already denied?
 
25 mins ago, by Wolgwang
@YaakovEllis Copying something from Meta of a site and posting it as comments on the main site triggers?
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward hi
 
@CinCout no
 
1:52 PM
@RafaelTavares Ive gotten it by pasting it into chat.
 
how to get unicorn defernder
and manual key?
 
@YaakovEllis well, now denied @Wolgwang
 
@YaakovEllis Pressing ctrl+c and ctrl+v on sites triggers?
 
A J
I got it on Android
I copied the text and pasted it into chat.
 
I tried inspecting for event listeners, but no success, I'm not that good at hacking :(
 
1:54 PM
rather than fishing randomly with these guesses, how about you folks try it experimentally. You can figure it out. I believe in you.
 
11 mins ago, by Wolgwang
user image
 
@AJ You copied the text from Android site?
 
A J
Yes
meta post that was linked here.
 
From android meta ?
@RafaelTavares Are you familiar with site codes?
 
@YaakovEllis One buried penny: suggest an edit on a >6 month old post that gets approved
 
A J
1:57 PM
@Wolgwang yes
 
Can a site know if i copied something from it
@double-beep confirmed "no"
 
@Wolgwang Yes
 
@double-beep in the ballpark, but no
 
7 hours ago, by Slate
@Wolgwang You're on the right track, but this needs refinement
@RafaelTavares Really how?
 
It's possible to check which keys you are pressing; Another option is that the Browser fires an event whenever the user copies something, among many other actions the user may do
 

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