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4:02 PM
@Catija btw, should I report a feature-request for the missing two seasons on the Bash site? The game I posted had all four, you know... and you promised same theme :P
 
@SPArcheon Missing two seasons?
 
Rob
@YaakovEllis Is the hat "Spotting Scope" manually awarded for finding an important bug that doesn't affect everyone, IE: needs to be fixed, as opposed to deferred?
 
@Rob See the starboard (if you can). He's out until Wednesday
@SPArcheon I didn't promise four, I was only focused on the seasons. :P
 
@Rob Natty has it, so probably no
 
4:06 PM
@Catija Friday next week...
 
It's oddly worded but he misspoke. He's out today through Tuesday.
 
@Rob Also I found another user...
@Catija I think initially it was Sun-Wed...
Yes it was
 
Rob
@Catija OK, I pinged him because I thought he manually awarded it related to that particular bug report.
 
There are no (generally) manually awarded hats this year.
 
Any guesses for trialogue yet?
 
4:10 PM
@nobody Yes
But am trying to confirm it.
 
Rob
@double-beep If you look at Natty's activity that's probably the answer, because they've only done one thing since the 14th.
 
@Catija that was clearly false advertising :P (just joking obviously)
 
@Wolgwang What is it?
 
Rob
^^^ Thanks.
 
@islamm How did you get the scope? :)
3 hours ago, by Lukas Rotter
@AnkitSharma You just earned the trialogue hat on SciFi, right? I think it's because 3 unique users participated in the comment section of the answer. (my comment was deleted by a mod, lol)
8 hours ago, by Ankit Sharma
I think this comment back gave me the tri hat
Just got @AnkitSharma theory matched/confirmed here
 
4:13 PM
So which of the three commenters gets the hat?
 
The question OP
 
Okay, wanna test it here? :p
 
@Rob I think it is related to commenting...
@nobody @CinCout Should post something not me.
 
ah, okay
 
@Wolgwang post what?
 
4:15 PM
does it need to be 3 different users?
 
sorry i was zoned out of the convo
 
just the question and answer posters
 
Rob
I just tried it.
 
@CinCout Anything
@Rob What?
 
@Wolgwang as a comment?
 
4:16 PM
@CinCout Yes
 
Rob
What you were talking about.
 
@Wolgwang on the question or the answer?
 
@nobody You have got the dialogue hat?
@CinCout answer
 
@Wolgwang Yep
 
@Rob I had jumped topics...what?
 
4:17 PM
@Wolgwang @nobody just did
which hats y'all testing?
 
Fingers crossed
5 mins ago, by Wolgwang
8 hours ago, by Ankit Sharma
I think this comment back gave me the tri hat
 
@Wolgwang good luck
 
@nobody Keep us posted :)
 
waiting for someone to post an answer here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/374119/…
 
@Wolgwang gotta wait 4 mins
 
4:20 PM
and also for Yaakov to mark it as status-completed
 
@Wolgwang No hat yet.
Maybe we need three users to interact in the comments.
 
Wait
Let me first upvote the comment
@nobody Got something ;-/ ?
 
@Wolgwang Not yet, but 5 mins haven't passed since you upvoted :)
 
@nobody they must have, i got Plus 44 for that answer :P
 
Okay, I didn't get the hat yet
 
4:29 PM
What is plus 44?
 
@Wolgwang Try commenting as well, maybe we need three users
 
Ok
 
@Wolgwang a non secret hat
guys I need some love for Sheldon Cooper
 
@nobody If that doesn't work...try posting another comment...I have seen two comments by the question OP in at least 3 questions for ex math.stackexchange.com/a/4333795/820922
@CinCout Hmm?
 
5
A: Show off your hats! (2021 edition)

CinCout"Good morning everyone and welcome to 'Science and Society'. I'm Dr. Sheldon Cooper, BS, MS, MA, Ph.D., and ScD. OMG, right?" "Bazinga" "I'm Not Crazy. My Mother Had Me Tested." "I'm exceedingly smart. I graduated college at fourteen. While my brother was getting an STD, I was getting a Ph.D." "

 
4:34 PM
@Wolgwang Okay
Should I ping you in the comment?
 
@nobody Wait
@nobody Got something :-/
If no
@nobody Ping @CinCout
 
K
 
(If that doesn't work, I am out of ideas)
 
dbc
@Catija What about commenting on a self-answer to a question where the question has a positive score? Nothing so far.
 
Ugh, not working
 
4:43 PM
@nobody Progress?
 
Nope
 
dbc
@Catija and actually, for Dialogue, I haven't gotten the hat for this comment to another user's answer to my positively scored question after 30 minutes.
 
@nobody Ugh
@CinCout Post another comment ?
 
I both love and hate this bash. So damn difficult.
 
@Wolgwang done
 
4:46 PM
@dbc That question is from 2020!
Moreover I am not sure if self answered question works..
 
A J
@CinCout Bazinga!
 
@AJ Bazinga!
 
dbc
@Wolgwang What does 2020 have to do with it? The spoiler on the winter bash hat list only says Comment under an answer to your own question - the question must have a positive score. But, yeah, it's totally unclear whether a comment under a self-answer should count as Dialog, which is why I asked.
 
@dbc The whole winterbash is revolved around winterbash.
 
dbc
So is the spoiler incomplete?
 
4:50 PM
@AJ sadly not much love for Dr Cooper here
 
11 hours ago, by Catija
@Wolgwang That's usually assumed but it's not explicitly in the info.
11 hours ago, by Wolgwang
@Catija Both actions must be done during winter bash?
@nobody
 
@Wolgwang No luck.
 
We literally tried everything....
@nobody @CinCout Remove the unwanted comments
 
@Wolgwang Flag them as no longer needed to see if there is a hat for that
 
@nobody (-_-)
@nobody Free for testing something for thought bubble hat?
 
5:01 PM
@Wolgwang Can you wait ~20mins?
I'll be free after that
 
@nobody Yes
@CinCout What about you..?
 
Does anybody know if there are any secret hats related to teams or collectives?
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Collectives?
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Teams is meant to be private, so probably no. And collectives is SO only, so again probably no
@Wolgwang Ok, I'm free earlier than I expected.
 
@Wolgwang You can't test it with someone who already have it
 
5:13 PM
@RafaelTavares Nobody doesn't have on meta chat server
 
Rob
2 days ago, by Catija
Teams don't get WB.
 
yesterday, by Catija
Yeah. So I can confirm that reparenting if you already have the hat will just award the hat again, so any data you've collected about it with subsequent sites on chat.se is bad data.
I think you are not able to test anything related to Thought bubble after getting it for the first time
 
@Catija kitsune: vote to close, vote to reopen, and then answer a question. The Q and the A must have a positive score
 
@RafaelTavares We will test on chat.**mse**
 
I'm not sure it will work, but feel free to try
 
5:15 PM
Those are different servers, so it should work
 
Maybe
I hope so
 
Rob
You can test it here, if you need the SO server:
in WB Starring Room - Stack Overflow on Stack Overflow Chat, 18 hours ago, by Rob
@U12-F̉͋̅̾̇orward That earned you the secret "Thought Bubble" hat on SO:
 
I think it is related to the amount of messages the user sends, Catija said it was close
 
@nobody glare reducers (a normal hat) is also SO only, so I'm must sure if that's correct.
 
Rob
^^ The answer is there ...
 
5:19 PM
That was for teams I thought.
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica SO and localized SOs
 
5:31 PM
@double-beep Not quite
 
be the first to VTC?
 
It is going to forever be on my mind that "Helping Heart" is harder than "Helping Arm," but appears earlier on the list in public... and a bit of surprise that Helping Arm seems to be more common now than Helping Hand.
 
Wasn't Kitsune a hat last year?
 
Any chances there's a "Helping body"? hahaha
 
Kitsune was a hat last year, but it had a different trigger, @Catija. (At least as far as I remember...)
 
5:46 PM
@Slate It was indeed
> Vote to reopen and answer a question.
Vote to reopen a question, and answer it when it gets reopened. Both actions must occur during Winter Bash.
 
:)
 
I wonder...is the staff trying to give hints?
 
If we are, we apparently suck at it.
4
 
Hint: Some hats require you to take actions on the site to obtain them.
2
 
X files theme plays
 
5:51 PM
@Slate That's worse than Hint: Waffles may contain some food.
 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Hat.
 
did the parrot just mentioned a not-yet-listed secret hat?
-_-?
 
Blue Jay, and unfortunately not. Happy Fun Hat is a great hat name idea.
Should just be artwork of the crying sock and buskin.
 
13 hours ago, by Catija
@Wolgwang close but not quite. You're touching on some aspects, missing one aspect and have something extra (if I'm understanding your guess correctly).

TB hat Another failed attempt

28 mins ago, 21 minutes total – 10 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 24 secs ago by Wolgwang

 
"Complete eight consecutive suggested edit reviews, where the majority of voters agreed with you. Reviews without votes don't count! (Note: takes 25 on Stack Overflow.)"
If I am the first reviewer, and I edit it (either approving or rejecting), does it count for something?
 
5:57 PM
@Slate Yes, but it is also an hat name that I expect to be a picture of Huggy Wuggy from that horror game Poppy Playtime.
 
Is one buried penny gotten from an approved suggested edit to a post [some amount] old with at least [some amount] of votes?
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Right direction, wrong conclusion.
 
Is it based off of the last time it was edited or answered instead of the time it was asked?
 
@RafaelTavares The intent was to reward consistent agreement with other curators - if there are no other curators to agree or disagree with, the review doesn't count towards the hat.
 
@Slate are moderators able to get the hat at all then?
 
6:02 PM
(Or it shouldn't. Review queues are wonky, though, and there are a lot of triggers. Bug-freen't guarantee.)
 
@Catija Doing continued conversation of 5 messages each gives thought bubble. @nobody Just received one.
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica if you want to investigate, I got the two pirate hats after my edit was approved here . I upvoted, suggested an edit to the answer, it was approved and upvoted by another person (probably after the edit was approved, but I'm not sure)
 

TB hat Another failed attempt

34 mins ago, 21 minutes total – 10 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 6 mins ago by Wolgwang

Not failed
in Sandbox, 3 mins ago, by nobody
whoa, wiat a minute, just earned thought bubble
 
has someone already tried to check if the Satellite View is related to either a certain number of view on a question or getting to HNQ list?
 
@SPArcheon I got it on SO without asking anything during winter/summer bash
 
6:03 PM
Isn't HNQ for sure
 
@Slate ty
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Afaik moderators can get the hat, they'd just need to be the 2nd+ reviewer in the queue.
 
Slate can you confirm
 
Can I confirm what?
 
2 mins ago, by Wolgwang
@Catija Doing continued conversation of 5 messages each gives thought bubble. @nobody Just received one.
2 mins ago, by Wolgwang
Not failed
in Sandbox, 5 mins ago, by nobody
whoa, wiat a minute, just earned thought bubble
 
6:05 PM
Oh yep, you hit the nail on the head with that test. Congrats! :)
 
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I wasn't expecting this
 
That's impressive.
 
That was the hardest one to nail so far.
 
6:06 PM
There are a couple implementation details I wouldn't expect you to get - for posterity, the trigger is worded in the doc as: "Have a conversation in chat: at least 5 distinct blocks of messages [sent] in chat in one room [in] a day"
 
@Slate He's trying for two or three days hahaha, the manual key was hard too, but not that hard
@Slate That's specific
 
@RafaelTavares would you mind upvoting this question and the answer by Schwern in 10-15 minutes after I edit both of them? (Though retract your upvotes before the vote lock if you don't think if they deserve upvotes)
 
@RafaelTavares Yeah, I wrote it that way so that spamming messages wouldn't count - some degree of organicity to the conversation would be required to get the hat. But it also made it trickier to discover what exactly was happening.
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica They both? I think it should be after your edit is approved
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Also, I edited only the answer in my adventure
 
Oh, that's interesting.
I'll try editing just the answer next.
 
6:14 PM
Ping me whenever you want me to upvote it
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica
JK
 
I just earned a Silver Badge... Waiting to see if I'll get a hat for this :)
 
@RafaelTavares I earned one on MSE today, no hat so far
 
Everyone is earning a hat instead of me -_-
 
6:20 PM
Does the Spotting Scope hat have something to do with flagging?
 
@CinCout That's sad... I'll earn a golden badge in four days, but I'm not feeling that it'll come with a hat
 
@RafaelTavares Me too, but it seems not ...
 
@Ollie A certain amount of flags being helpful, maybe? Does bots have this one?
 
@RafaelTavares too many hats for questions this year, and that is something I don't like doing deliberately
 
@Ollie I think so... specifically close, duplicates
 
6:21 PM
@Wolgwang Because you're only hunting =D
 
@Wolgwang I have it, but I dunno how I got it
 
@Wolgwang I don't think so. Natty has the Spotting Scope hat, and it only flags NAAs.
 
@Wolgwang You have more hats than me though
 
@RafaelTavares But maybe you'll get a hat for a golden badge. I only got a silver one
@Ollie I got it after having voted for closing on a lot of posts. but not necessarily only duplicates
 
Let's consult the blue jay. @Slate?
 
6:24 PM
@CinCout nice hats by the way! +1
 
What can I help ya with?
 
@Slate The Spotting Scope hat. It is awarded after a certain number of helpful flags?
 
@JasperHabicht which one did you like the most?
 
@CinCout Mine, ofc
 
@Slate Helping hands: Post three positively scored comments under a users' first post and the OP edits the question after the comments?
 
6:26 PM
@CinCout the one with the snorkel
 
@Ollie You're on the right track, but you've got a fair amount of work left to do to name the trigger.
 
@Slate OK, thanks
 
@JasperHabicht thanks. Sheldon loves it too meta.stackexchange.com/a/374148/258356
 
@CinCout looks like an overflow valve for the brain =D
 
@Wolgwang Believe it or not, that's actually a bit too restrictive. You're very, very close, but the hat has been awarded in cases that haven't gone as far as you've listed.
 
6:27 PM
@JasperHabicht haha yeah. Suits his witty ass
 
@CinCout I just contributed the stupid-gloves hat =D
 
@Slate Believe it or not, I actually got both Helping hands and fingers from same set of comments.
 
@JasperHabicht how's that?
 
I can tell ;)
 
Anybody knows if the Manual Key trigger works on mobile? I copied some text but didn't got the hat (the question has the [discussion] tag). I'm using Chrome 96.0.4664.101 in iOS 15.
 
6:30 PM
@CinCout out of other ideas ... but I also eventually decided to snorkel =)
 
@hkotsubo They were discussing it yesterday, but I didn't read if it had a conclusion
 
Maybe according to hat...there are two hands so two such comments. What do you think guys??
About helping hands...
 
21 hours ago, by Rob
@YaakovEllis I'm not convinced that copying for the "Manual key" hat is working on touchscreen phones, do you have a phone that you can test it on? Thanks.
 
@RafaelTavares 👍
 
@RafaelTavares ping :)
 
6:38 PM
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Just the answer or the question too?
 
Both preferably :P
@Slate the OP doesn't have to edit it, it just has to be edited?
 
@Slate @Slate Helping hands: Post two positively scored comments under a users' first post ? This matches with the another user on math.SE...and only two users have this.
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Done
 
@RafaelTavares thanks :)
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Can confirm 'no' math.stackexchange.com/questions/4333911/…
 
6:42 PM
@RafaelTavares you can retract them now, I've got the hat :)
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Ping staff and get the trigger confirmed...
 
@Slate is two buried pennies upvoting an old answer that later gets upvoted? Possibly the question might also have to be upvoted.
@Wolgwang done :)
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Answer/question Can confirm that
 
Hmm. I think if y'all look for a few more examples for the Helping series you'll narrow it down quick. Helping Finger has been awarded a bunch. Helping Hand less so (it is harder), but there are still at least a couple dozen awardees.
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Posts have to be inactive >6 months ,no?
 
6:44 PM
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica No
 
Not even close?
 
@Slate helping finger's trigger is already discovered
 
Oh it is? Missed that, that's cool!
 
@Slate Funny thing...I received helping hands first and then finger :-/
 
@Wolgwang were they nearly the same time or was there a significant difference? If it was the first one, it's caching.
 
6:46 PM
That's possible, yeah.
 
But I had only posted a comment or two after helping hands.
 
@Wolgwang I have Imgur disabled for the next couple hours, so I'm sadly not able to see that image.
 
I need help verifying a trigger but that involves asking for an upvote on one of the main sites. Is it fine to do that here? One can always take back the vote later if they think the post doesn't deserve it
 
@hkotsubo I copied something on my Android (Chrome) and didn't get the Manual key too. Maybe it's worth creating a bug report on MSE for further investigation
 
@CinCout yeah just ask them to retract the upvote before the 5 minute timer and it's okay :)
 
6:49 PM
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica ibb.co/yPDyf94
 
@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica I can always re-edit the post to unlock it anytime in the future
 
20 hours ago, by Yaakov Ellis
@Rob I tried on Android Chrome and did not get it
 
Is the trigger for one buried penny confirmed?
 
@nobody dont think so
 
@CinCout Well, somebody added a trigger for it on the hat list
> Two possibility: I got it after a edit to an old post to direct a deadlink to webarchive, and I did upvoted an old question (+1 year) that was -1 but roomba didnt deleted it because an answers was in it at a 0 score.
Looks like they thought adding their guesses to the post was fine.
 
6:51 PM
@nobody yeah looks like.
 
I rolled back
I tried to edit the summary but I made two edits for this, lol
 
2 days ago question are before winterbash?
 
can someone please UV this? stackoverflow.com/a/70397488/2912665 Testing for a secret hat obviously
 
Funny thing, the one buried penny has three pennies on it.
 
59 secs ago, by Wolgwang
2 days ago question are before winterbash?
 
6:55 PM
@nobody only one of them is buried though :P
 
it would be awesome if the "no hats for me, please" button just gave the person another secret hat.
 
@JasonC have you tried it?
 
no i didn't have the nerve to take the risk, lol
 
I think I have just hit a jackpot.
 
and now i'm suspicious that you're trying to troll me into hatlessness ... 😬 what to do, what to do...
 
6:57 PM
@JasonC did it three times, nothings happened.
 
Does community user flag questions?
 
oh. yeah. i just did it. that was anticlimactic. it just took me to the bot profile. and had a button to opt back in.
 
Oh!
 
@JasonC you went to the bot profile when you opted out of hats?
 
6:59 PM
@YaakovEllis One Burried penny is; upvote a old negative question, that was -1, but roomba never deleted, as an accepted answer was there at 0 ?
 
@all got Kitsune. Test successful
 
@yagmoth555 Can confirm "no" IMO
 

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