2021 Mathematics Stack Exchange Moderator Election Chat - 2021-11-15

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10:33 AM

@amWhy I wasn't clueless, I just wasn't sure if the questionnaire is what you were referring to due to the way you were describing the voting. I thought we'd reached a place where we had understood each other, and then I told you that our process has changed because of how we built the questionnaire responses into the election page itself, rather than doing it on Meta.

If what gave the impression I was clueless was a lack of MSE link, here you go.

3 hours later…

1:28 PM

I just noticed that many (all except MSE?) sites have historical election data available under the URL <site>/election, for example mathoverflow.net/election, stackoverflow.com/election, askubuntu.com/election. On Math.SE however, this URL leads to the current election math.stackexchange.com/election. Is this known? Is there a reason for it? Do we have historical election data available under a different URL?

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Q: How to show the election history page when there is an ongoing election?

Viewing the /election page on a site where there is currently no election, e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/election/ shows a list of past elections: However, the same page on a site where there is an ongoing election, e.g. https://math.stackexchange.com/election/ shows the current election: ...

support election

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A: How to show the election history page when there is an ongoing election?

It's possible to get to the election history: just add a number higher than the number of elections of a non-existing election to the URL, e.g.: https://math.stackexchange.com/election/9 https://math.stackexchange.com/election/0 https://math.stackexchange.com/election/-1 even works. (thanks @...

@MartinR The different is that the election here is active - in normal times the link is the historical record. Old elections can still be accessed by going to <site>/election/number, for example the 2020 election is at .../election/8.

This has been patched, it doesn't work anymore. — EKons Apr 1 '19 at 21:23

@TheAmplitwist So, i believe there is currently no way to access the consolidated historical election data during an ongoing election.

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@TheAmplitwist Aha – so this is a known issue. Thanks for the references.

@MartinR No problem!

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5:45 PM

@JNat Yes, we did reach that place; and I'm sorry for what may have confused you. Until I located the questionnaire from last year, it was difficult for me to explain know precisely whether it was a meta meta math question, or part of the election page. No problem; I appreciate your patience. I was sort of left feeling like I was seen as crazy, until we figured it out.

@amWhy I was never seeing you as crazy, just got the impression we were maybe struggling to communicate with a shared language, which led to me not being entirely sure of what you might be referring to, until we finally got each other

I strongly request, and insist, on the sort of math.meta post @Asaf asked, following the election of 2017. I think potential nominees need far more information about what self-nomination entails, prior to nominating, because two of four candidates have ceased interacting the day of self nomination, and two days after self nominations, respectively.

@JNat Again, thanks for not dismissing me altogether! :-)

2 hours later…

8:03 PM

Election has begun!

And I already finished casting....

Good luck to all candidates (well, to all serious candidates)!

@amWhy Over at RPG we had a candidate who hasnt logged in since posting their nomination nearly a month ago. They could have won the election, which ended two weeks ago, and they still wouldn't even know it.

Hi

I had to attend to my university work, which was why I couldn't attend to my nomination after day 2

Am I fine?

(I do remember beefing up my nom after amWhy commented)

Is anyone here

8:36 PM

@amWhy here

@ParclyTaxel Thanks!

So I explained my predicament and why I did not come back after day 2

Apparently there are just 4 candidates, reading from this chat. Me, Christian Prince, Paramanand and...?

@ParclyTaxel I didn't catch it all. But thanks for filling us in :-)

catch what?

and The SimpliFire.

8:39 PM

I think I'm going to lose out... I did beef up my statement (and shifted the purpose) after you commented

@ParclyTaxel I mean I thought you referring to the Mathematics chat, which I did not read thoroughly. But yes, I see what wrote above.

@ParclyTaxel I saw that.

Xander Henderson

@ParclyTaxel "Fine" in what sense?

In the sense that you are still eligible, you are fine.

I also saw that you pinged me from the nomination/questionnaire page that did not seem constructive to me, but alas, upon arriving there, all comments and answers were deleted.

Yes, I know that. But I can't edit the nomination now, right?

No, you can't edit once primary/election starts

8:45 PM

@ParclyTaxel I'm more interested with what originates from you, when no one is around to suggest there's a problem with that. I've said nothing to you about editing that comment.

Is that with respect to the viewpoints not explicitly enumerated in my nom?

@ParclyTaxel No.

Hello, @ParamanandSingh ! Now the eight long days of waiting begin :-)

OK, so on my own volition... hi @ParamanandSingh

As I said, I'm going to lose (or so I think)

@amWhy So this situation you are talking about is "if I am a mod, what would I do besides responding to flags and whatnot"?

Biggest suggestion thus far, @ParclyTaxel, don't grovel.

I am just trying to clarify what you were asking earlier

Paramanand Singh

8:54 PM

Hello @amWhy, @ParclyTaxel,

Just casted my votes

It seems that I have casted mine too

As I said in main MSE chat, I nominated myself because I saw it pop up and thought "I've been here for long enough to do this"

@ParclyTaxel That's hardly what I am talking about here. You've written responses to the questionnaire and such, but when users show concern, you flip flopped. You walked back answers to carefully chosen questions, leaving a lot of us wondering what you actually believe, and not what you say when flip flop to please the asker.

I will no longer continue with you at this point, as you repeatedly post, then delete your comments. You asked me questions, I responded. Now, let's move on.

the deleted messages are just typos / accidental early <enter> misclicks (btw, @ParclyTaxel, you do know you can edit your chat messages, right?)

I have been editing my messages, yes (but some messages are too old to edit)

What got edited in became my new viewpoints – I learn as I go along

9:11 PM

Where did the comments under the nomination questionnaires go?

those are only there during the nomination phase

although you can view them in the nomination phase tab here

You have to go to the nominations page to see them

Ok, great - it would be really nice if those were available from the election page, since candidates provided relevant information in them. Currently, there's no way to get to the nominations page from the page you get when you click on "election", and I think that's a shortcoming.

(continuing) So I wasn't editing just to please the asker, I did it to shape my own beliefs towards the mod mindset

I juggle a lot of things besides MSE, in particular my university stuff and my art stuff (furry/MLP)

@Pedro Your comment to me was off base. I was curious to learn how interactive a candidate is with other users, as a few mods don't interact well with users. That's not to say they aren't qualified, just that it is important to me (a quite a few others) that a mod can interact with users respectfully. Case in point, @Pedro.

9:17 PM

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@ParclyTaxel I'm done with my candidate evaluations, as the nomination phase is over with.

@KReiser yes there is

9:35 PM

@hyper-neutrino sorry, guess I missed that button

@ParclyTaxel Yes, I understand. Thanks for all your clarifications.

@TheAmplitwist User currently suspended network wide for seven days, their math.se profile no longer exists.

Homieomorphism has made a post on the Meta.SE post about accounts held by multiple users here explaining their mistakes and the history/situation

9:51 PM

@hyper-neutrino Thanks for linking that. I take it as fully sincere.

10:15 PM

Confused: There appears to be 4 candidates. Is that a complete list?

@herbsteinberg yes

Thank you,

@herbsteinberg Not a particularly popular election

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10:40 PM

Where do I find a ballot?

@herbsteinberg check your messages

election math.stackexchange.com/election, ballot on right

Hopefully my link to the election/ballot page, doesn't reveal my votes?

Did you find it, @herbsteinberg ?

11:31 PM

@amWhy yes thank you

@herbsteinberg Great!

11:46 PM

Curious, @Jnat, why the order of the names in the list has changed from during the nomination phase; it could just be a random listing. It sort of looks like it's in the order from earliest nominee, to latest nominee. I'm just curious; that's it.

are you talking about the ballot or the display on the main section of the page?

@hyper-neutrino Sorry for not being clear. I meant on the ballot.

But also, I have no qualms with the order on the ballot, just curious. So my question to @JNat is not in any way urgent.

ah, np. I know the main page is random but not sure about the ballot - i'm curious too now :P

@hyper-neutrino :-)

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