The Comms Room

Cole

00:00

Mainly because how I look

syneticon-dj

@Cole too cool?

Cole

@syneticon-dj the sun never sets on a bad ass

MDMarra

@syneticon-dj True, but SharePoint is self-service in the sense that business unit leaders are admins of their sites (typically). SCSM self-service means you present a user with a prompt for things they can request. These are tied to orchestrator runbooks that automatically do these tasks. All you (or a manager) do is click approve or deny. self-service is two different concepts in that way

Cole

Mainly visible tattoos and stretched lobes.

MDMarra

@syneticon-dj but, in a place without a lot of turnover or changes where people just maintain, it doesn't have much value

It's definitely not meant for a 30 man shop

Matt Bear

00:02

why do fat people stink...

seriously

Cole

@MattBear They sweat more

ewwhite

@MDMarra You sound like you're being brainwashed!

MDMarra

@Cole long sleeves and smaller solid plugs

Cole

Also then the sweat gets trapped in their skin folds/rolls

MDMarra

@ewwhite I just trashed SP, didn't I?

Cole

00:03

@MDMarra they're not too big now 7/16"

ewwhite

And let me fight my Supermicro versus real server battles in peace!

Cole

Jenna "There's a new show called Trophy Wife. I wonder it it's footage of me in the future."

syneticon-dj

@MDMarra others who have lots of turnover would have automation solutions feeding off a central directory in place already. They would have looked into identity management and built their stuff around that.

Cole

My girlfriend is much more attractive than me - I'm quite okay with that.

MDMarra

@syneticon-dj Right, but there are other fish to fry, like provisioning VMs and adding them to load balance clusters. Or requesting access to other user's mailboxes, etc

Matt Bear

00:05

guy attractiveness is a complex equation... girls is much simpler

MDMarra

Users can request a piece of software and automatically be placed into an SCCM collection that deploys that software

etc etc

syneticon-dj

@Cole you should have asked guys before converting - the girlfriends are always the better-looking part of the couple.

Matt Bear

girls attractiveness = height/weight * cup size + face

Cole

@syneticon-dj oh I'm totally okay with it. I was a hot woman so I had my 15 minutes

MDMarra

@MattBear number divided by number times letter plus body part

Cole

00:07

@MattBear indeed. My girlfriend is tall, hour glass shaped, triple D's and very pretty face

and dat ass.

syneticon-dj

too bad she is insecure

Matt Bear

guy attractiveness = height/weight * penis size + face * wallet * sense of humor * brain * earning potential * family * job + car + muscles

im sure im leaving out something...

Cole

Fucking-a I can't figure out what I want to eat

Matt Bear

@Cole pink taco

Cole

@MattBear she's at home

I don't feel like driving an hour+ round trip

Matt Bear

00:10

removed so no one gets in trouble :p

freiheit

@MattBear Somewhat seriously, with women: hip to waist and hip to breast ratio. With men: triangle from shoulders to pelvis. Also, symmetry for everybody and good skin (but more for women).

Cole

I don't like skinny girls

I like curvy women.

syneticon-dj

@freiheit what about hair?

Matt Bear

@freiheit ahh, but men will sleep with women based purely on that hip - waist - breast ratio, women wont, they look at all the other factors also

Cole

Hair is a big deal to me

syneticon-dj

00:13

skin-headed women don't look quite right, no matter the light...

freiheit

@syneticon-dj Not universal, but any hair that is present needs to be appropriately healthy looking.

Joel E Salas

Timing your toilet-exit to sync with another man's exit is like petting a cat when he's trying to poop

Cole

@JoelESalas oh my god.

dying.

Joel E Salas

The best you can do is recognize their shoes later, then you look them in the eyes and be like "I know about your poops"

syneticon-dj

2

Matt Bear

00:14

there are exceptions to every rule, but seriously try to get laid purely based on appearance as a guy (meaning be dumb, annoying, broke and boring), it will happen, but nowhere near as often as for a women with the same attributes

freiheit

@JoelESalas With the right foods, you should be able to train your colon so that you almost never have to poop at work.

Cole

@freiheit everyone must think I poop a lot at work. I do, but they probably think I have IBS

Matt Bear

@freiheit why would you do that? its fuun to blast mud at work!

freiheit

@MattBear You know those douchey frat boys with all the muscles? They get laid. It's sad, but they get laid.

MDMarra

@freiheit "With the right foods" is like saying "Air aside, you can breathe under water"

ewwhite

00:16

all. the. time.

Cole

I never have issues getting laid.

Matt Bear

I always eat chili, 3 or 4 oranges, and a bunch of grapes for breakfast

makes my noon poop exciting

ewwhite

@Cole I do!

Cole

Well you're married.

MDMarra

You're married

Wait, so am I

Cole

00:16

SO ARE YOU

Oh dear lord

MDMarra

hahahaha

Matt Bear

@freiheit ahh but frat boys have money, and are earning a degree so they have earning potential

MDMarra

I can't do those jokes any more

syneticon-dj

@MattBear you should try adding beans to the menu

ewwhite

@MDMarra wait 'til it dries up!

Cole

00:17

I've initiated sex a total of one time since I've been with my girlfriend.

Matt Bear

@syneticon-dj included in the chili

MDMarra

@ewwhite Then I'll have time to sort out your clients

freiheit

@MDMarra Kale. Oatmeal. etc... Or a long snorkel. Depending which problem we're solving...

Cole

Oatmeal is gross.

syneticon-dj

@MattBear I see. Some cabbage perhaps?

MDMarra

00:18

@freiheit Who the hell eats Kale for breakfast?

Journeyman Geek

who the hell eats kale at all?

I'm a vegitarian, and the damned leaves are baffling

freiheit

@MDMarra Oatmeal for breakfast, and a bunch of kale (or chard or cabbage or mustard greens or ...) as part of dinner.

Journeyman Geek

even tried deep frying em once ( DO NOT DO THIS. EVER. EVER. EVER).

Cole

I just started eating beef and pork 2 years ago

freiheit

@JourneymanGeek I'm a native californian... Kale happens out here... It's a thing... I could share some recipes if you actually wanted...

Journeyman Geek

00:20

never seen kale in singapore

when i was in UK, somene at an organic market threw in a massive bunch when I bought a single bunch of carrots ;p

has no idea what to do with it back then

freiheit

@JourneymanGeek Kale is pretty much just chewier varieties of cabbage or mustard greens...

Joel E Salas

Kale is god damn delicious

Cole

I have no fucking idea what to eat for dinner

syneticon-dj

@Cole Pizza? That's what I do when I am out of ideas.

Cole

@syneticon-dj that's what I'm thinking

freiheit

00:22

@Cole You should definitely go with Matt Bear's suggestion

syneticon-dj

(which happens quite a lot)

Cole

yeah I've put on 3lbs in the past two weeks

Need to start working out again

I need a new desk chair

syneticon-dj

broke by the attempt to rock it?

Joel E Salas

Pink Taco

Pink Taco is a restaurant chain in Los Angeles, California with locations in West Hollywood on the Sunset Strip and in Century City, located on the premises of the Westfield Century City mall. It serves Mexican food. Locations The first Pink Taco restaurant was opened in 1999 at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Paradise, Nevada. A second location in Scottsdale, Arizona met with controversy and remained open for less than three years, between 2006 and 2009. A third location opened on June 28, 2007 in Century City, Los Angeles, California. According to the restaurant's website, planned ...

Michael Hampton

0

Q: Where can I get live help for OpenStack and its associated technologies? (keystone, nova, quantum, etc.)

Where can I get help for/discuss OpenStack and its associated technologies? e.g. an IRC channel for keystone, nova, quantum, etc.)

openstack

KILL

Cole

00:30

@syneticon-dj Just a piece of shit chair

syneticon-dj

@MichaelHampton What's that - spam?

Michael Hampton

@mdpc Actually, this is an answer (it just happens to be wrong). — Michael Hampton 6 secs ago

@syneticon-dj Based on his history, I don't think so. Probably just trying to be helpful, without quite understanding what we're here for.

Why oh why can't I downvote comments?

syneticon-dj

@MichaelHampton we're here for answering OpenStack questions of course. So every reference to IRC as a source of help is wrong / bad / douche.

IRC is sooo 1990ies

@JoelESalas I don't quite get it - where is the connection between the restaurant chain and the specifics of the female anatomy?

Michael Hampton

@syneticon-dj The name.

syneticon-dj

@MichaelHampton but why? Would anyone name his restaurant "long schlong"?

Michael Hampton

00:38

@syneticon-dj facebook.com/pages/Schlongs-Bar-Grill/291387997628192

syneticon-dj

I give up on this world...

Cole

LOL

Michael Hampton

Scotty, beam me up. There's no intelligent life down here.

MDMarra

I think you should consider hiring someone with a background in this type of thing to consult for you on this project. Stretching an NLB cluster across two physically separate sites isn't the way to do this. — MDMarra 11 secs ago

Joel E Salas

@michaelhampton Do I want deadline or noop

Michael Hampton

00:49

@JoelESalas Deadline, probably

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Also, how does KVM play with NFS for VM disk storage?

MDMarra

@JoelESalas noatime

like a man

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra barrier=0

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas NFS prior to v4 scares the living shit out of me.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Why so

Michael Hampton

00:50

Nightmare File System?

One of these days I'll actually have cause to use NFS again...

Joel E Salas

We need a common storage backend for VMs so we can migrate them hot, what else could we use?

MDMarra

Hyper-V and SMB 3

(jk)

(but it works)

syneticon-dj

@MDMarra With KVM? Don't think so.

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas One big problem with previous versions of NFS is that the slightest network glitch would cause every damn NFS client to hang forever.

MDMarra

@syneticon-dj Of course not with KVM haha

Joel E Salas

00:53

@MichaelHampton I can use any version of NFS I want for this

Michael Hampton

Supposedly NFSv4 doesn't have this issue, at least if you use TCP transport.

And you really don't want your hypervisor hanging...

If it's Linux on both ends you should be using v4 by default.

syneticon-dj

@JoelESalas why don't you want to use iSCSI LUNs directly?

Michael Hampton

Can you thin provision iSCSI LUNs?

(This isn't something I have a whole lot of experience with...)

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton Depends what the LUN's on.

Joel E Salas

@syneticon-dj Why yes? The only real answer is I'm not comfortable with my knowledge of iSCSI

Michael Hampton

00:55

But yeah, I'd take iSCSI any day over NFS, all things being equal.

syneticon-dj

@JoelESalas If you don't know it and don't use it elsewhere, it probably won't be the best choice.

Matt Bear

how should I approach backing up azure servers...

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Starting from zero, you should be able to roll your own iSCSI target in an afternoon's HOWTO-following. Doing it well, though, might take a lot longer.

@MattBear Pets or livestock?

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton We have NetApps and shit

it's just all set up for NFS at the moment

Matt Bear

I've been making local copies, but i'm working out how to backup straight to azure

Michael Hampton

00:59

@JoelESalas Oh, if you already have storage, then by all means use it.

@JoelESalas NetApp supports NFSv4 and v4.1 so you should be good to go.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Chance that we're running the latest OnTAP? 0%

Andrew

0

Q: How exactly does a SFF-8087 to 4x connection work + RAID/connection questions?

Please let me know if my question does not makes any sense as I am not sure if I am interpreting it correctly from my thoughts due to my lack of technical knowledge on this. If I am using a motherboard which has a connection for a SFF-8087 to 4x cable such as this SFF-8087 to 4x SATA connection...

raid sata sas

@JoelESalas we're on about 8 I think, using NFS rather than iSCSI because the vendor sales team screwed the spec

Joel E Salas

@Andrew How's that

ewwhite

@Andrew yessss?

Andrew

@JoelESalas the project team thought we were hooking in a bunch of physical machines rather than P2Ving everything

Joel E Salas

01:09

@Andrew How does that change the spec

Andrew

"NetApp Release 8.1.1 7-Mode"

@JoelESalas they said "oh, Linux, that supports NFS, we'll set the whole thing up as NFS then"

Joel E Salas

hauehauheuaheauheauhea

Andrew

(which ESX is fine with, and we're fine with, but that was one of the reasons for not using iSCSI - possibly there are others around dedup too)

however, it does mean we have an NFS network which we could theoretically use to access our SAN from outside the vSphere stack. which we haven't used, but the potential is there at least.

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas NFSv4 is also ten years old, so there should be a few appliances supporting it by now...

Andrew

@ewwhite I feel a canonical question coming on

ewwhite

01:15

whyso?

Joel E Salas

@Andrew Your mom's a canonical question

Andrew

@ewwhite because it's a good answer to a "SCSI, SATA, SAS, WTF?"

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Oh, and if you haven't yet read The UNIX-HATERS Handbook, you should do that.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Oh yes I love that

ewwhite

@Andrew Ah... we have a lot of that info scattered about

Joel E Salas

01:18

@ewwhite How do I see the RAM info for a BL460c G6?

MDMarra

@JoelESalas Take the lid off

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Keep in mind that it's terribly dated, and occasionally completely wrong. But its chapter on NFS does pretty accurately describe the state of things prior to NFSv4.

ewwhite

@JoelESalas dmidecode -t 17 | awk '( /Size/ && $2 ~ /^[0-9]+$/ ) { x+=$2 } END{ print "\t" "Installed Ram: " x "MB"}'

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite ilo-interface/dsysmem.htm

ewwhite

heh... but if you have the agents installed... hpasmcli is good

Joel E Salas

01:22

@ewwhite Soon

ewwhite

don't tell me that there aren't any HP agents installed.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Ok, I won't

ewwhite

It's like not running vmware tools

you lose a lot of info.

Joel E Salas

who says we run VMware tools?

ewwhite

that's a bad practice, too.

Joel E Salas

01:24

you know what VM tools I like? ONES BUILT INTO THE KERNEL

Michael Hampton

virt-what

MDMarra

@JoelESalas You like your processors never entering a low power state when idle?

(or has that been fixed)

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra (I don't know probably)

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra I thought that was Hyper-V.

ewwhite

You fools! Take advantage of the fact that you have hardware that has agents.

In Supermicro-land, there's no such thing.

Joel E Salas

01:26

@ewwhite I'll get it into puppet, right now my main adversary is Xen

Michael Hampton

ipmitool!

MDMarra

@MichaelHampton It definitely happened on VMware without Tools installed on Linux guests. I'd imagine the same would happen on Hyper-V without the integration tools there too.

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra On KVM there's no power saving to begin with so there

jscott

I was impressed as hell when VMWare tools was able to perform a auto/silent update on our Debian VMs.

Andrew

@ewwhite I heard you can get plugin IPMI cards or whatever...

(though our vSphere stack is HPs, so that's OK)

ewwhite

01:27

We have IPMI on super micro, but the utilities and management are not well-integrated

MDMarra

"Yo, I heard you like building servers by hand, so here's an OOB management card you have to pop in yourself"

ewwhite

If you people knew what I went through last night...

Andrew

@MDMarra not as crazy as my plan to wire an arduino into the SPI or whatever on a RAID card that ESX didn't support

MDMarra

@ewwhite Too much Buffalo Wild Wings?

Happens to the best of us

Andrew

s/ESX/ESXi/g :-/

ewwhite

01:28

@MDMarra A Hadoop server failure.

MDMarra

@Andrew Good thing @ewwhite has all of the LSI chip fab docs

ewwhite

@MDMarra I deleted them to make room for my personal Brazzers collection.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Don't you mean "offsite backup"?

ewwhite

I met with my linux team today...

We're going to start doing OS updates now.

Shane Madden

@ewwhite You weren't before?

Michael Hampton

01:31

@ewwhite On a schedule?

ewwhite

@ShaneMadden Nah.

MDMarra

Mark Henderson

@MDMarra All servers should have flames on them

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton I'm pushing it to our client services people... so that we negotiate it per-client. The HIPAA sites have totally different requirements and paperwork needed for updates... but for some other sites, we'll be able to do an opt-in or opt-out arrangement.

MDMarra

@ShaneMadden You'd be surprised how few issues you bump into when you run yum update -y with no repos enabled. It's the best way to update!

Shane Madden

01:33

@MDMarra Haha, this is true.

MDMarra

Never had a patch window break anything that way!

Scott Pack

02:24

@MDMarra What black magic is this? How did you know that? HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?

Travis

Ya'll really don't ever get off SF chat do you

Scott Pack

I just popped in because I opened my computer to start ripping a dvd. I'm about to go fold laundry and drink wine.

Travis

First time I ever logged in from home..

Joel E Salas

@Travis Nope

Michael Hampton

@Travis I work from home, so... no.

voretaq7

03:05

If we have a better canonical question for "How do I not get my mail labeled as spam?" than serverfault.com/questions/48428/… someone let me know.

(alternatively if anyone wants to write a more comprehensive answer, or a canonical target, free rep!)

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 I might give it a shot, that answer sucks and really doesn't deserve 31 upvotes...

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton yeah, the other question I linked to actually has slightly better answers

Michael Hampton

@voretaq7 True, but the problem there is half the answer is in the question.

voretaq7

I'm not opposed to a brand new CW target with a comprehensive fucking-subnets-how-do-they-work style answer

Michael Hampton

Will I rep cap three days in a row from it?

voretaq7

03:10

(which means no reps, but we have a better resource and I can change the banner on the "old" CW target to send people to the new one)

Scott Pack

splattne's still a mod?

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton well there's really no rule that says a post that's intended to be a canonical target has to be CW :-P

@ScottPack yup

diamonds are forever (or until the sheer volume of stupid makes you want to kill someone and you light your diamond on fire)

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 Is he still active? I don't feel like I've seen his name for a very long time.

voretaq7

not "active" active, but he handles a few flags a month at least.
Sometimes more than I do :-x

Michael Hampton

The best moderators are those you never notice... sneaking up behind you with a garrote.

voretaq7

03:12

@MichaelHampton Normally the mods make the "intentional canonical targets" CW because we're the ones making them and it just seems wrong to rep whore off them

'cuz they get dropped in here and ZOMG UPBOATS

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 How is that wrong?

Michael Hampton

If it's a good Q&A, then why the hell not?

Scott Pack

This is how I feel any time I see a chance for free rep.

voretaq7

@ScottPack it's not, really - I do it more to avoid "the appearance of impropriety"

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 Like your face. Got it.

voretaq7

03:14

Michael Hampton

I guess I better write it before the election ends, then.

voretaq7

My face is very proper.
(It's the rest of me that's totally obscene and scandalous)

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 I dunno...I've seen your face...

voretaq7

@ScottPack only in pictures

I'm much more horrifying in person

Scott Pack

I mean, like right now, you seriously need to shave. You're looking rather dirty.

Michael Hampton

03:15

That's not stubble.

voretaq7

@ScottPack ...I did shave! (my goatee was getting lopsided so I drastically reduced its size and scope)

@MichaelHampton THAT'S NO LADY!

Scott Pack

@MichaelHampton Because of "Road to Wellville" I can't help but hear any sentence beginning with "That's not" in Kellogg's voice.

voretaq7

►

Mark Henderson

Another great work order I just saw come over our system; this is from a company that installs solar panels on peoples houses: "We attended job [WORKORDER] but we have installed a 5kw solar system on the wrong house. We installed on #23, should have installed on #21. Need to un-install system from #21 and move to #23" - what.the.fuck.

2

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Fired.

Mark Henderson

03:19

I swear, where do they find these idiots?

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson The local bar.... right after Last Call?

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 I reckon!

Thank god these businesses aren't mine :p

voretaq7

These are the ones who couldn't get up to run away from the recruiter?

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 haha, more like they were dole bludgers and the government said "get a job before we take away your entitlements"

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson I know a time when the foreclosure lockdown crew had the wrong address.

Mark Henderson

03:21

@ScottPack That's bad

Scott Pack

My wife was the office manager of the Realtor who was dealing with it.

Mark Henderson

We got the heads up that a company we sub-leased from was going into liquidation so we rushed around collecting all our shit to get it off the premesis before the receivers arrived. Made it with about 5 minutes to spare; first thing they did was lock the doors to stop any more equipment from leaving

voretaq7

@ScottPack theoretically that's a liiiiittle easier to correct than "Yeah, we climbed on your roof, sunk big anchor bolts into the rafters, and installed a large solar cell cluster. Then we hacked into your power lines and installed a grid link and a transfer switch..."

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson Yeah. Those guys show up like a repo man. Swoop in, replace all the locks, put up signs, shut off utilities, throw down their smoke bombs and disappear all in 5 minutes or less.

Andrew

anyone suggest a decent multipage TIFF viewer since Office dumped MODI?

Scott Pack

03:23

@voretaq7 Oh, it's definitely easier and cheaper to correct. It's all the other problems that make it exciting.

Mark Henderson

I also have a collegue from another company who found our that their entire DC was going into liquidation - companies lost about $10M worth of equipment that they had colocated. He got his out with 2 days to spare (this was in Malaysia, I don't think you'd get away with that here)

Andrew

Windows 7 Photo Viewer doesn't display thumbnail previews of different pages :(

voretaq7

@ScottPack Sue the bank!

@MarkHenderson it happens in the US

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 The official response I see on the job is "See if they will accept a 75% discount on the system - this is cheaper than removing it"

voretaq7

datacenters get forclosed and the companies responsible don't let you take the shit out until you start throwing lawyers at them

@MarkHenderson Not surprising.

How the fuck does that work though - how do you install the whole system (including grid links) without the owner knowing?

or is this new construction?

Mark Henderson

03:25

@voretaq7 Nobody was home, electricity boxes are on the outside of the house...

Don't really know

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson . . . but.... butbut....

Mark Henderson

It might have been a new development where nobody had moved in yet; they do a lot of those jobs (there's no mention of if this is an old hosue or a development)

voretaq7

WTF?

I could see if it was a new development

that's....still bad

but at least there's a reasonable "It's a newly built house, the owner requested it, we're not expecting anyone to be home"

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 I'd say that's likely

And if there's no numbers on the houses they have to look at those little signs at the front of the block

My first version omitting certain details sounded better

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson indeed. I'm starring it.

Scott Pack

03:34

So. I know I put tonic in this gin. I just can't find it.

voretaq7

@ScottPack does it matter? I mean you still have the gin...

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 It's a pretty tasty gin too. Strongly flavou?red but not burny.

@voretaq7 Hm. Distilled no more than 13 miles from my door as well, using corn from our preferred grains farmer and spice blend recommended by an awesome guy who's a county commissioner. Nice story to go with a nice gin.

voretaq7

@ScottPack so that means I can't get it

bastard

Scott Pack

dancingtreedistillery.com/spirits-2/gin

Probably not.

@voretaq7 Too bad you're so far away. We host a 10 day beer festival too. The idea is to showcase Ohio breweries, of which there are gobs, and most of which produce pretty good brew.

Ward

04:01

We drive over this bridge about once a month, on shopping trips to the US:

vancouversun.com/news/…

Scott Pack

Oy vey!

Michael Hampton

Ha. Google Maps is already showing me driving directions that avoid that bridge.

@Ward There are no good alternate routes through there either; that's going to be a nightmare for years.

Scott Pack

I wonder if the rest of the bridge is still ok. With any luck they'll be able to rebuild that one section and move on.

Ward

They'll have to build some temporary ramps, but the other bridge just to the east is newer and just as wide. We go over that one all the time on the way from Costco to Walmart... (or to the cheap but ok buffet...)

MikeyB

Ahhh… PHP: joejulian.name/blog/…

Mark Henderson

04:25

joejulian.name/blog/half-a-day-wasted-chasing-nat-tranlations

> See, I use a single ISC dhcp server (well, actually a pair, but for all intents and purposes...) for all of our 26 locations. The routers that establish the ipsec vpns do dhcp forwarding.

That's... not normal, is it?!

Scott Pack

I dunno, I think that sounds totally fine. I mean, he's got a pair, what more resiliency do you want?!?

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack Rather than putting DHCP servers at each remote site, he's NATting the DHCP responses back to a central network. That stinks to me; if the VPN goes down you lose DHCP

And also he fucked up his firewall rules in the central office and ended up giving remote sites the wrong IP addresses

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson You're supposed to put straw men in the fields to scare away crows.

Mark Henderson

2nd one is understandable, but I would be very nervous not having a local DHCP at each client site

I've seen too many VPNs go offline for too long to be comfortable with that

Scott Pack

/me is being smarmy

Michael Hampton

04:35

@Ward Yeah, but once you start running all the I-5 traffic right through both towns, which that does, then you're looking at a traffic snarl that lasts pretty much continuously until they open a new bridge.

Andrew

04:53

@MikeyB that's... not good. PHP caches too much OS-level stuff.

MikeyB

You guys want to see some CRAZY SHIT? Look at the upgrade instructions Bitnami released for their Discourse VM images: wiki.bitnami.com/Applications/…

Adrian

@JoelESalas @MDMarra @JourneymanGeek I'd eat Kale for Breakfast. themeaningofpie.com/2011/09/kale-salad-with-lemon-and-parmesan

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