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C:\ProgramData\VMWare\<SSO SOMETHING OR OTHER>
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@slm what is your question about flags?
@Zypher Ahh yeah, good call.
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2 of my flags were declined and I was looking for some followup on them
Fun With Flags with Zypher
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23:01
not sure if the link shows up right if i post it
@Zypher Are you raging against the vSphere SSO as well?
@slm heh, just wait until you get review audits.....
@MarkHenderson a bit i gave up since i want to rebuild the box anyway
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i don't know what you mean by that
@Zypher It's so hateful. Especially for multi-site. You have to replicate it by hand, and "replication" means "delete everything at the destination site and replace it with the data from the source site"
23:03
It's been upgraded a few times 4.1 Foundation -> 4.1 Foundations reinstall -> 5.1 Standard -> 5.1U1
@MarkHenderson hahahahahaha
@Zypher That's what I'm working on - fresh builds for all the vCenters on 5.1u1. Decided to puppetize the install. That was a bad idea, but I'm almost there now.
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sorry i forgot the @adrian
ha, yea i'm just waiting for our internal OPS DB to be build (waiting on me to go to the DC and put disks in)
and then i can get off SQL Express
@MarkHenderson Yeah, my solution for that is to keep the database dump in version control, then when a change happens that needs to be replicated, upload the new DB dump into version control and let puppet push it out to all the other nodes in the group.
@ScottPack dammit, i should have taken that.
23:05
@slm Flags are a minor annoyance compared to the review audit questions. Some truly atrocious ones that should've been closed ended up with lots of upvotes and you get flagged as a review queue abuser because of awful questions ending up listed as good question.
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@Adrian, so you're saying don't worry about it?
@ShaneMadden Crazy
VMware SSO is bullshit
I could see them losing marketshare because of the complexity of new installs
@ewwhite It's pretty craycray
@slm Bingo. Not worth worrying about. One of the Mods will chat with you if they think there's a problem.
It's a slimmed down RSA identity management thing. Probably only exists for political reasons, since EMC owns RSA and all.
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23:07
@Adrian, there were 2 posts that i flagged, they got declined and yet one of the answers ended up being closed and the other, was a complete mess of an answer that is now in some frankenstein state with the gist of the code it included deleted
http://serverfault.com/questions/308630/can-i-update-mysql-through-yum-repository-without-data-loss-corruption-should-i/506338#506338
god im tired
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I kind of figured that but I was just looking through my flag history and noticed these 2 and wanted to make sure I was doing things correctly sitll
still
@slm Yeah, The Mods are the best folks to talk to about that stuff. @Zypher's staff. He rarely deigns to come in here and visit us nowadays.
4 oclock just hit
@MattBear BOOOOOM
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23:09
I don't come in the rooms all that much, enlighten me on staff? ppl that just are always here but aren't mods or do they have extra rights (hopefully not offending any staffers)
GMeTFO. A recruiter just called me wanting me to apply for a Clearcase administrator position. Dear God in Heaven: NO!
What is clearcase
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good position to take
@slm Most of us are not Mods. People with Blue are either StackExchange Staff or Moderators.
@JoelESalas IBM's Enterprise Change Management Tool.
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@Adrian blue highlighted names?
23:12
@Adrian Awesome
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clearcase is crap
@JoelESalas No. Not Awesome. Run. The. Fuck. Away.
@slm what kind of flag did you submit against that answer?
@slm Blue name means they're a moderator on a Stack Exchange site, not necessarily this one. See here: serverfault.com/users?tab=moderators
damn... maas 360 is aggressive lol
testing different MDM enforcment policies, if I screw with a device even a little bit, instantly wipes itself
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23:16
@Shane thanks for the link
@Zoredache i flagged it as not constructive (http://serverfault.com/questions/505318/how-to-launch-a-site-with-high-future-growth-potential)
I'm liking it, now I just need to mount the micro charges in the cases, in case someone tries to split one
@ShaneMadden Waitasec... Blue doesn't mean part smurf?
ugh. Cpanel. That's a paddlin. — Tom O'Connor 22 secs ago
@freiheit Well, that too.
The Seagate Barracuda stuff still any good nowadays?
23:28
yeah, Barracuda is fine.
Ohai, fibre?
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Q: Extending a PaGP EtherChannel run beyond the maximum ethernet length

sbgoodwinI have an office downstairs which requires approximately 500 feet of cat-5 to reach. We have a basic L2 switch in a closet at the halfway point which acts as a signal booster, and allows us to give connectivity to the downstairs office. This all worked fine until I wanted to use two runs instead...

@Jeff What did you end up with?
@TomO'Connor RFC 1149
I just learned how to use the mtr traceroute tool!!
or IPoAC
23:31
@MattBear or just, fucking fibre.
OP has awesome mustache. No clue about networking though.
@TomO'Connor between offices? are you crazy! thats a huge waste of money!
Well, there's always free-space optics..
@TomO'Connor "Friendly Muttonchops" mustache/beard combo, I think...
or P2P microwave, which would you rather?
@TomO'Connor though 10BASE2 wouldnt require a repeater for that distance...
23:33
@MattBear Oy. I just threw up a little.
@MattBear It'd require media converters, though. A far worse fate.
@ScottPack 15" macbook. I figured I'd be ok with the extra 1.5lb weight
@Adrian 802.3bj?
OK, who's downvoting me.
I'm fucking right.
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Iain is right. The site is going to the dogs.
sudo find . -name id_rsa yay backups...
... no results. fml.
23:36
@ewwhite really?
@Zoredache I always used lft
@MattBear Yeah, that's one of those technologies I'm glad I'll never have to deal with again.
@Adrian again?!?!?!
you've dealt with 100 gb fibre before?
@TomO'Connor Which answer did you want downvoting on?
@MattBear Nope. Misread that. My bad for multi-tasking. 10base2, is what I'm talking about.
23:43
@ScottPack Oh nevermind.
ahhh lol
@JeffFerland For me it partially a price issue. I do really like the form factor and I couldn't justify the price bump up to 15.
@Adrian I was all "Damn, WHO are you working for?"
@MattBear What I did in fact deal with, was 802.3b. Which was a fucking nightmare.
that 100gb is obsolete
@Adrian I just had to look that up... wow
10BROAD36?
actually looks kinda cool... 3600m range, 10 mbit, over CATV cables
23:48
@MattBear We were in a 100 year old building trying to build something out of nothing. The agency had no independent IT budget, just what could be cadged out of other departments to pay for what we could convince them was needed. And what they had a was rather large 75ohm Coax install and the ability to get donated oboslete gear from the local governments. Was about 12-13 years ago, and a fucking nightmare.
@Adrian oh wow, yeah...
Thankfully, I ended up getting the place onto 100bT instead once I convinced them that it would be cheaper and more reliable. But that took about a year since I was a wet behind the ears noob at the time.
12-13 years ago I was putting in fiber on a college campus lol
@Adrian Wow, that is a situation when BYOD (and include your own router!) would actually improve things.
@Hennes This was before desktop routers. Was generally just relay hubs back then.
Having 20 hubs in a building has its own problems. shudder
23:51
@Adrian thats some serious pain...
/me thinks back. When did I get my first home network (not dial-in)
10-20 years ago?
Ancient times.
@Hennes X-Wire?
@MattBear I had some fun times there too. Like the time we went on lockdown because a tenant in the upper floors lost his shit and started pointing a toy pistol out the window at the county courthouse across the street and the SWAT was chasing after him up & down the stairways and hallways of the building.
Amigas and parlink. Amd the 386 got a 10 mbit ISA card. A guinuine novel eagle 2000 using coax and T connectors.
And I was working late the night of the infamous Seattle Mardi Gras riots.
23:53
But the PC was located in the calculation center of the university
And it had a colour VGA card!!!! (A Tsjeng Et4000)
Oh man, now I feel old.
@Adrian lol
You know you are old when usenet means "text discussions" and not "moar p0rn"
thats all he had to do to get SWAT after him?
@Hennes How much memory did it have? Mine had a whopping 256k.
8x 256 KiB (30 pins)
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@MattBear yeah. They weren't sure it was fake.
@Adrian they kill him?
the second MB was a 700 GUILDER ( US $ 300-ish ) upgrade
WTF. Thunderbird won't let me setup my email account.
And the harddisk was 40 MB MFM
@MattBear I don't even think they found him. The residents there know the neighborhood and buildings far better than the cops
23:56
@ScottPack Ah, I agree. I wouldn't pay that price difference.
@JeffFerland Well, it still came out of the departmental budget, but I know exactly what that budget looks like. :)

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