;p

Curse you apple!

" I dunno... I need a nap - 59m ago by Matt Bear"

I read that as "I need an app"

and dont take no for an answer! they have em, even if they say they dont...

@Hennes: there's probably an app for that

@JourneymanGeek The Nap App?

NapApp by NetApp ?

@freiheit the nap app wakes you up FALSE ADVERTISING!

@MattBear As long as you pay my hourly rate

@MDMarra definitely, upon completion of the task

nope, who do you think you are? @ewwhite?

I have to collect.

that shit is hard sometimes.

You're telling me!

I raised the rates for one of the customers.

well, for everyone, actually

but one short-paid me

so I'm hashing it out

and just signed a contract on that house

god damn... creating infopath forms does not make you a dev... and the fact that im not YOUR manager, doesnt mean im not A manager, just because I CAN create AD users, doesnt mean its my JOB to create AD users... So sending ME an email TELLING me to create a user, instead of going through the proper channels, and then coming to MY desk 30 seconds after you send the email to ask if I had done it yet, WHILE I am in the middle of a priority one project....

That is a DAMN good way, of making sure that user doesnt get created untill next week

And this is why people don't respect sysadmins!

Smile! Be pleasant...

stroke that user's nuts...

and makes sure that I speak to YOUR manager, about proper channels, submitting tickets, etc...

Smile, show those fangs ?

@ewwhite that and apparently we're not allowed to install shock collars on users, no matter how much it improves productivity

/me had one of those "user clicking on obviously suspecious links" incidents yesterday

system seems alright tho

@ewwhite not my job to be pleasent, its actually my job to put the boot into people...

sorry... this person pisses me off

we almost fired her for being completly inept, untill it was decided she could spend her days digitizing forms in infopath and putting them into sharepoint

I hate people....

sometimes

I can only be nice to one person with the brain of a child per day...

and I see my daughter first

:-p

I dunno about your user creation process, but I would've been done before you finished that rant. :P

lol

@Tanner I could of, but its not the first time, and its not the first time shes been spoken to about it...

manual user creation is for the birds

you have infopath and SP. It should be one click to approve the workflow

haha should have her build it

yup

@Tanner thats my plan actually...

but right now, my focus is on the web servers and MDM

then im building a real dev enviroment for sharepoint and adding in user creation

actually, who do you guys use for MDM solutions?

im looking at MaaS 360 and airwatch right now

printf("Sup Serverfault");

cout << "Sup";

or, in the same language, puts("Sup");

Not much... just waiting for someone to come along, take those last few posts, compile 'em, link 'em, set the executable bit and then run em. Typical Friday night.

@jscott heh

was hoping to be testing the new web servers by now... sftp is taking forever, shoulda just tarballed and scp'd

oh well, ill just leave it running and VPN in to monitor it

wanna play a game?

"Name that language!"

"strange game.... the only winning move is not to play"

wanna play "Global Thermonuclear War" instead?

:)

or tic tac toe

globalthermonuclearwar.net

I AM UNEMPLOYED, PEOPLE

@MDMarra Oh great, another freeloader, not paying taxes...

I owed this year :(

-$353

Congrats though.

thanks man

Owing sucks, I owed until I had a kid (wasn't married at the time) filed HOH... Holy cow I shocked when I finished filing the return.

Yeah, instead of filing 1 deduction like I usually do, I filed 2

So instead of $1k back, it was -$350

but it's not like it was money lost

@MattBear Did you play that? When you win tic tac toe, it launches the missiles :)

@jscott it just launches em after X time

was cool though

30 min till I go home!

and then drive 5 hours to my other job.... :(

@jscott the AI is not very smart....

@MDMarra I agree, but I wish I could get it within +/- $5, that would be a nice trick.

@MattBear And it seems you always get the first move?

This is wrong, right?

right

@MDMarra lucky

Who names their Port Groups like that?!

@ewwhite Why 3 management networks?

and the rest...

Client has a local IT service group.

Uh

That iSCSI config isn't good

and they aren't happy with performance

so I'm going through the vsphere setup...

and yes, the iSCSI is wrong.

There's one vSwitch that has no portgroups

"Reserved for future use"

"scale up"

Spot the outlier...

That moment when you realize you never cleaned up a snapshot...

2.02TB? How you do that? thought vmdk was 2TB limit?

1.98TB an a 43GB VM

they have a VNXe

and an HP P2000 G3...

@jscott that's for a single vmdk. storage views shows total for all disks

they backup to the Hp P2000 san

We use NFS ;_;

@MDMarra Ah, thanks.

that's a nice small biz solution

I like the HP P4000 series where 1Gb iSCSI is acceptable

@MDMarra NEVAR ACCEPTABLE

We're doing a complete VMware refactor in our dev sandbox environment

feels good man

@JoelESalas where are you getting the expertise?

or does erryone know vmware there?

@ewwhite We have a fairly big/experienced team, and we got some outside help to make recommendations

The thing I see often is no questioning of the setup and no reaching out for outside support

like this 3-host setup I'm looking at now.

there's another 3-host cluster 3 hours away

So is $1000 for an 8CPU, 64GB HP BL465c crazy, or is it just me?

and they replicate to each other using Veeam

@RyanRies it's the fact that it's a BL465

where are you seeing it?

The AMD boxes don't hold value

@ewwhite The guys at my company said that's what they could get them for

get a SKU number

it's low... but the generation also matters

@ewwhite Ok, I will, I'm curious because that seems hella cheap, I might want to get a blade chassis for myself if I can have those kind of prices :)

Yeah, just throw some L6-30s in your basement lab..

@RyanRies A C3000 enclosure is cheap and could work at home, but I'd seriously go with standalone boxes.

@ewwhite Yeah for playing around at home I do love my Supermicros

So cheap

So I'm on call for the move of TruTV.com to a new datacenter tonight

So no Hardcore Pawn for any of you!

Is it a physical move?

yep

cold migration

in the dark of night...

Weird to say, but I actually enjoy those.

@jscott Getting authorized to do that is nice

You wouldn't enjoy this,

sooo much paperwork

I wish I could get into the datacenter more. I miss them. Doing too much design/architecture and less of actually getting to touch and see the servers that I build. :\

@ewwhite Our NFS storage is currently routed

@JoelESalas o rly?

burnt-out

Drowned in a sea of terminal windows...

and now it's time to "swapoff/swapon"

Good thing you got that retina display so you can open more of them on a single screen.

That's only one monitor...

I have three right now

the Windows and RDP sessions are on another.

What does the old lady think when she sees you with all that matrix stuff everywhere?

Or do you keep her too busy wiring catalyst stacks to bother you? :)

@jscott She tells me to fix her Exchange server.

Ha!

# sync; swapoff -a; swapon -a

and waiting...

that'll take an hour

@ewwhite hnnnng

@ewwhite uhhh 13 vmkernel ports. Right. Hahahah.

@pauska What's wrong with that ;_;

@JoelESalas 16GB of used SWAP

@pauska makes total sense... (hah) This is why I was asking whether a lot of people have VCP certs.

It's Friday night and you guys are talking about swap.

At the bar, someone at the next table over said something about RoundCube. And the person she was next to said something about Outlook.

I have have highly selective hearingd

yesh, and terrible spelling

It must be time to kill people. I'm out!

@ChrisS Man, I'm stuck doing work until 4am.

@ewwhite You need more RAM

@JoelESalas Do I?

top - 22:54:17 up 10 days,  4:30,  7 users,  load average: 6.49, 5.88, 6.44
Tasks: 5193 total,   3 running, 5190 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  4.4%us,  5.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 62.9%id, 27.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.1%si,  0.0%st
Mem:  98863236k total, 79592428k used, 19270808k free,    43176k buffers
Swap: 16777208k total,        0k used, 16777208k free, 54043388k cached
PID to kill:
  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
17286 oracle    15   0 8466m 3.1g 3.1g S  0.0  3.3   8:43.34 oracleAMS1 (LOCAL=NO)

@ewwhite You're right! 98863236k > 96369636k

you get a whole 2GB of filesystem cache

Is anyone a Dell person here

Hmm, guess trutv.com is really down

But trutv.com is happy.

@ewwhite Of course, it's on Akamai.

I wasn't sure they turned up the TTL

client never confirmed

But you can't make @ a CNAME

ok, you COULD, but it wouldn't do what you want.

Woah. I just installed Java 7u17...no sign of the Ass toolbar!

Ask

I always thought it was misspelled...

I have a customer who could hook you up with an Ass toolbar.

@ewwhite You have a LOT of customers who could do that.

@ewwhite service httpd start

naw, it needs to move to a new facility

Oh, are they leaving?

@MichaelHampton Data center move

Oh. And they didn't update the IP address in the DNS?

we manage DNS. Spanning the network to the new location.

but it's a cold migration of hardware.

Cold migration...meaning you unrack it and stick it in the back of somebody's pickup truck?

professional movers.

That's better. :)

You know, it's nice that CloudFlare supports IPv6. It would be even better if it actually worked.

anyone else interested in computer security, and wants a ebook bruce schneier seems to like? cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html

I'm digging this vCenter Operations.

Really, people...

Thanks. Repwhorage ahoy!

@JourneymanGeek it's the weekend - no one is about to vote

(even if I do know, least in theory, exactly how this is useful)

Damn, I'm not going to rep cap off a one-liner now. Thanks a lot, @JourneymanGeek

;p

On the other hand...

yeah, precisely ;p

and this is one of the few things I actually have some idea about ;p

one of my more fun assignments was something like this, got given a list of logins on a computer, a excel file with various entries, one of which was someone being naughty, and the time various employees were at work.

(naturally the workstation, login and suspect were all different people so... fun fun. )

Oh go ahead, it's not like I need the rep :)

XD. Feel free to snipe me on SU in future ;p

yawn

TruTV is up!

no questions on the front page?

okay, who dropped the wrong database?

@tombull89 huh?

one just came through, no databases have been harmed in this operation

@Zypher There were no questions listed on the front page of SF or SU for a couple of minutes

@tombull89 I've seen that happen before. Probably the stack exchange servers taking a nap...

I hate the rain

@Dan I hate <70 degrees

@ewwhite My friend (Who's pretty good with computers) says those iLO servers suck compared to the DRAC servers because they get bad viruses

@Dan Spyware.

@Jacob Well, I'd like to hate that but being britain I'd be pretty screwed. I've got a whole room full of car parts and it keeps getting rained off

@ewwhite Thanks for the Flickr tip, by the way - signed up and liking it.

@Dan Of course... it's riddled with spyware, too.

@ewwhite Dang :(

The only problem I have with flickr is how often my photos end up in Google results...

Man, I wish there was a way of just telling Windows to ignore NTFS ACL's for a minute. Taking ownership takes ages - half tempted to bounce up an Ubuntu VM just to copy riles

@ewwhite You don't want that?

People looking for upskirt photos often land on my photostream.

@ewwhite Well that serves you right!

And seeing the search terms that led them there is even worse.

@ewwhite Ah yes, Google - the entry to some sick perverted shit!

But my photos, sorted by Interestingness™, is an odd collection.

Dear Veeam Y you no support free ESXi

@ewwhite I should confess that I spent considerable time e-stalking your Flickr account yesterday. You take some great photos

@Jacob No API/SDK support I think

@ewwhite I expected an upskirt photo of you in a kilt. Disappointed.

@DennisKaarsemaker Have bikinis, though...

@ewwhite that's just weird...

@ewwhite Chris

Good choice of shoes, though, I do rate SIDI

SRSLY WINDOWS!!! I can't use lusrmgr because I don't have pro edition -_-

@ewwhite btw downforeveryoneorjustme.com/djedwhite.com

@DennisKaarsemaker no longer

@ewwhite It's still down

@ewwhite still down

no, it's no longer live.

ah

had to sanitize pre-job-search

I just followed the link from your flickr profile :)

That is the hard way. Or you could just google on upskirt ....

Does everyone else here have loads of hard drives knocking around or is that just me

@Dan I have hard drive inception

@Iain A combination of disorganisation, procrastination and a desire to keep everything means I know how you feel!

I will reduce numbers today, though!

howdy gents

@Adrian more G&T @30,000 ft ?

I got one spare (40 MB, IDE) drive around

@Iain nope. two weeks on business this time. Minding the queue for one of the other guys on a (so far) quiet Saturday.

@Hennes MY first hard drive was a 40MB MFM drive that I upgraded to 60MB by using a RLL card

@Hennes Nice. The smallest I still have is my old 255MB drive. Not sure where my 85M unit went.

@Iain Oh Gawd. That MFM/RLL stuff was heinous.

My first was a 69MB Rodine SCSI drive (in an Amiga), my second was a 40 MB MFM drive in a 386sx-16

@Adrian it was better than 5.25" floppys though

4 drivers per MFM controller. Not that bad.

@Iain True. Or at least a lot quicker.

@Hennes mine was in a 386sx-16 too. I upgraded it to 2mb of ram with a bunch of chips

@Adrian somewhat :)

@Iain yeah. All very relative.

8x 256 MB 30 pins SIMMs. About 700 guilders for the second MB.

@Hennes Believe it or not, I think I have something similar upstairs. I keep meaning to go through them and make sure there's nothing on it

Jeez. You guys have been slacking. 53 Qs in the review queue?

@Hennes Mine was actual chips

Yeah. my 286 motherboard had about 1/3 of its area covered in memory chips.

@Iain I have that with backups of my desktops. Old machine gets backed up onto new machine, which gets backed up onto newer machine... I think I'm 6 levels deep now :)

@DennisKaarsemaker yeah - that's about where I am

I need to get myself a nas to store these thing on

any recommendations for a quiet (preferably fanless) one?

@DennisKaarsemaker Buy twice the size of what you need because most are Raid 0'd to get to the advertised size?

Oh, I have disks. Just need the unit

What do you want is to do. Just store stuff slowly?

Or be able to accept rsync, run a few local progs etc etc ?

Also, whats peed. E.g. the centronic NAS I had used dual SATA drives, a GBIt NIC..... for 11MB/sec transfers

backups (rsync preferably) of various things, archive of older things. Maybe some music (so not too slow, and NFS/sshfs'able. Samba if it must)

main requirement is silence.

@ewwhite Do you have any particular recommendation for sorting and archiving photos?

Sometimes people want an everything is okay dashboard...

That's mighty clean.

@Dan I use Apple Aperture.

@ewwhite You mean damn near every executive on the planet? All green at a glance is a very good thing to be able to offer.

@ewwhite Oh, yeah...apple

Wait a minute. Couldn't you just use a background picture for that. ;)

Everything is always OK. :)

Backed by an HP DL370 G6 running ESXi with NexentaStor on top, exporting a ZFS zVol via iSCSI over Wifi to my MacBook Pro Retina running the GlobalSan iSCSI initiator...

with Apple Time Machine backups, too.

@Dan But outside of that, people like Adobe Lightroom, too

@ewwhite Yeah, I'm trying to consolidate my home technology! Good call on Lightroom

This vCenter Operations analytics is very cool

I like that

@ewwhite Is it actually pretty useful?

It needs little tweaking, but once I get a week or two of samples, I think it'll become useful

From one cluster, it's telling me that I have several undersized/stressed VMs.

the boredom is eating away at my sanity.

If any of you has services written in perl that accept user input as hash keys, time to update perl. perlnews.org/2013/03/rehashing-flaw

perl is a bit late on the hash DOS attack bandwagon as it's not vulnerable to the things that plagued ruby and others. This one is trickier :)

@DennisKaarsemaker Perl was a decade early on the hash DoS attack bandwagon (fixed in 2003).

@freiheit well yes, but in that fix there was a vulnerability lurking that has now been discovered

@DennisKaarsemaker Well, yes. I'll bet the other recent language fixes have similar problems

Not really. When everybody else fixed it, they all went for randomization in hashes. Perl didn't do that as their rehashing was deemed good enough. Only the upcoming 5.18 does the randomization trick. Research in how to still be able to break that uncovered the vulnerability in the rehasing methods (which is unique to perl)

@DennisKaarsemaker Or more like Perl went for randomization in hashes, then figured they had a better solution, and the better solution turns out to have problems. stackoverflow.com/questions/6685019/…

and for 5.18 they're doing randomization again :)