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Dan
6:00 PM
You've met him IRL?
 
@Dan email
 
Dan
Ah, I maintain he's probably a pussy cat face to face
 
haha
@Chopper3 You're on. How goes it?
220 ***************
>>> EHLO mail.coastcitrus.com
250-Postini says hello back
250-XXXXXXXA
250-8BITMIME
250 XXXB
>>> MAIL From:<XXX@coastcitrus.com>
250 Ok
>>> RCPT To:<XXX@buyfoodsource.com>
250 Ok
>>> DATA
354 Feed me
>>> .
The "Feed Me" line seems odd.
 
Does the SMTP standard specify what strings should be used with the status codes?
as in, is a mail server which says 'Yay!' alongside a 250 response to a 'MAIL' command compliant with the spec?
 
and back
 
6:10 PM
I'm not sure. i'm running a sendmail -vq in debug/verbose mode, and the response strings are, um, interesting
 
@ewwhite I'm sure Postini/Google is just having a laugh.
 
354 go ahead
looks like it can be anything
 
@ewwhite the client/server only read the codes
The words are for your consumption
 
I think I have a mail situation with a client that MAY be user error.
it seems like several users at said client are sending to 200-300 recipients.
salespeople sending pricelists.
problem is, being the produce and restaurant/food industry, the recipients are yahoo.com, sbcglobal.net, aol.com, gmail.com, hotmail.com, hotMALE.net
 
@growse No, descriptions are completely optional and for human's to read only.
 
6:16 PM
so it looks like we're getting rate-limited, throttled, kicked, spit-on, and blocked.
 
@jscott The original Postini people had a good sense of humor and were dedicated to a technically superior product. I don't believe any of them still work there.
 
@ChrisS The Web interface for Postini was a mess, but the product worked great. Google is folding the whole of Postini into Google Apps, so I'm curious where we'll be in another year or so.
 
Yep, I'm watching this... a 2mb message to 250 people.
sent from a user's desktop
 
Postini for the last few years has been run by bean counters; run into the ground; just like so many other industries where the bean-counters seize control. Google hasn't done a whole lot with them yet, but it'll be interesting to see where they go for sure.
 
HELO toad
250 mx1.stack.nl
MAIL FROM hennes@stack.nl
501 5.5.4 Syntax: MAIL FROM:<address>
MAIL FROM:<Hennes@stack.nl>
250 2.1.0 Ok
RCPT TO:<Hennes@stack.nl>
250 2.1.5 Ok
DATA
354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
No feed me seymore
 
6:22 PM
@chriss did you guys ever end up doing anything with HP servers?
 
It should change my server to say "354 Get in mah belleh!"
 
354 I know what you mailed last summer
 
@ewwhite No, we're in "busy season" now, so no changes until May/June. And the shat has hit the fan twice already over slow systems that were planned to be replaced. I'm not amused in the least.
 
@ChrisS wassup with that?
 
@ewwhite I submitted proposal; they wanted a "Company Cloud Strategy" before we could purchase any new infrastructure hardware. Took me a month to put that together, which is essentially "we're not going to cloud anything; and here's 30 pages of why". They took 2 months to "read" said strategy (I know they didn't read it because they've asked questions that were answered on the first page). Then in November said I could purchase the hardware.
A month isn't enough time to do an overhaul like that. Plus we replaced 1/3 of our laptops. Plus a bunch of employee turnover. Plus a ton of software upgrades and new software too. I've been working 50+ hours just trying to get the rest of it done. There was no way 90% of our server hardware was going to get replaced at the same time. So it's been shelved until May/June.
 
6:31 PM
@ChrisS how big is your staff?
 
Me, myself, and I. =]
Or you mean the company? Something like 30-ish people.
 
@ChrisS IT staff.
 
Yeah, IT Staff == Me
 
you need reinforcements.
 
We have consultants who do ERP, CRM, and various other application stuff. But Infrastructure, it's just me.
 
6:32 PM
build some cloud stuff!
 
@ewwhite Our practice insurance would sh*t bricks.
We have a 5 page contract just for customer to send us unencrypted files which MAY NOT contain EHR or 3rd party financial information. We have an additional 12 pages of contract for that stuff.
I think the lawyers have taken over... But I'm not putting my a$$ on the line if someone decided to sue for $2m.
Also, most of our applications are poorly written, and would respond very poorly to latency, like the kind associated with moving resources from on-premise to the cloud.
 
No, a private or hybrid cloud
weren't the HP server you were talking about going to be used for a vSphere or Hyper-V deployment?
 
@ewwhite Oh, yeah. We've got a Hyper-V cluster now. Would continue as such.
 
HV 2008R2 or the new stuff?
I'm itching to play with 2012 hyper-v
 
I just get miffed when they see all this cloud stuff on TV and whatnot and want to know why we can't do all that.... And 1. that cloud stuff doesn't apply to us mostly (we use these ancient LoB applications, some are STILL written in FoxPro 6) 2. It's not my decision anyway as the lawyers/insurance dictates a lot of what we can/can't do.
@SpacemanSpiff We're R2 right now, and SC 2007/2008. I was planning on going Hyper-V 3 and SC 2012, but it'll have to wait until next year at this point.
 
6:44 PM
cool
 
@ChrisS you know what my company does... we have financial and legal and insurance companies in our private/hybrid cloud infra.
 
@ewwhite - you deal with compliance yet?
I've architected our shit so implementing it will not be all the difficult
 
Man delegation in AD is pretty cool.
Had to do some delegwiz.inf adjustments to get it so the user can only change the Logon script, but it worked.
 
@SpacemanSpiff Yes. SOX, HIPPA, SEC...
 
we're doing the same stuff, hybrid/private cloud
some customers throw their gear in, we give them cloud provisioned vms or dedicated a vmware cluster to them
 
6:51 PM
@ewwhite Yeah, we've had a few Cloud provider talk about this and that... But they've all boiled down to two things: "It's not out fault/problem if the client does something stupid that results in data loss" and latency/ancient applications that weren't built for "cloud" and suck at it.
can your cloud host FoxPro OLE Databases? Worse, will you provide application support if something goes wrong, cause our application vendor sure isn't. =[
 
most of our clients write their own apps. a LOT of healthcare/insurance.
 
@ewwhite I wish we would.... With the amount of money we spend on the sh*t applications we buy, we could easily hire 1.5 developers. How many other companies are in the same position we are?
 
quite a few... but homegrown apps bring a lot of worries, too
 
Yeah... competent developers/architects seem to be more rare than I'd like.
Oh, 6 new 23" screens just arrived. =]
 
it does seem like our customers want us to be their technical backstop
i get tired of hand holding and proving windows admins inept at doing basic troubleshooting
all while blaming it on the cloud
 
6:58 PM
Six? Time for an eyefinity setup?
 
@SpacemanSpiff where do ewe work?
 
@ Hipskind TSG
 
@SpacemanSpiff Hmmmph, it's no SWC.
 
probably not, but we're a small team, have a lot of fun, flexible
@ewwhite what do you do at SWC?
 
7:05 PM
Gets me jobs.
 
@SpacemanSpiff long relationship... used to work there/sorta
 
@Goatmale Excellent
 
@Goatmale - that looks like a really good place to be
 
I know, I am very excited and nervous.
What does SWC stand for, anyway?
 
Subject, Wills and Company - Dave Subject and Don Wills founded it in the 1970's.
also spun-off Produce Pro... in 2005, the companies split, and Dave Subject sold his interest.
SWC became manager-owned and changed the name slightly.
 
7:12 PM
Ah, you used to work at produce pro, right?
or is this more "shhh"
Intune is geared towards smaller organizations?
 
Just saw @tombull89 Hot Dog room star...but mine's only a breakfast sausage. :(
 
7:31 PM
I wonder how many Intune users there are. Probably a similar amount of Azure users.
 
No idea, never heard of anyone using Intune.
 
< mode=troll > Intunes is not a mipselled itunes ?
 
< mode=balmer > Just as easy to use!
 
 
Smallie Crabrash
How suiting.
 
7:42 PM
Bimbo Analbead o_O
 
The best one is someone with a T last name and born in Dec: Dildo Foreskin
@Iain hahaha
 
Solarwinds is the most annoying company ever.
 
@Goatmale Why do you say that
 
They send spammy misleading marketing emails to me and a few of my co-workers every week or so.
 
Subject: YOUR SERVERS ARE DOWN
Body: ... for some serious new monitoring software
 
7:48 PM
Pretty much. One of them "You were working my colleague on a project previously.. please give us a call" borderline phishing.
I should just go home.
I have 9 more days of work left.
What should I do? Logic Bomb?
 
Easter eggs
 
i.e. poop in places where people can smell, but not see it.
 
8:07 PM
Anway, I can't wait to go home and have a beer, see my lady, eat sushi, see my friends. What a great life. Happy New Years y'all!
 
Enjoy sir, seems like you're starting off 2013 right.
 
@Goatmale no, I used to work there.
 
Hey everyone, come join my NYE party!!!!
 
Any MTV viewers here?
 
@Chopper3 what the fuck is that
@ewwhite not I
 
8:20 PM
@Cole the greatest party EVAH!!
 
cat·fish [kat-fish] verb

To pretend to be someone you're not online by posting false information, such as someone else's pictures, on social media sites usually with the intention of getting someone to fall in love with you.
 
Think I'm going to get sushi and some good beer and watch movies tonight. Sounds much better than getting wasted.
@ewwhite heard about that.
 
it's crazzzzzy... people totally being trolled.
 
There was a transguy on it recently, all my friends had to text me about it of course. Because you know, just because I'm trans I want to hear about other trans people.
Which I don't.
 
Well, it's an interesting thing. The online relationships... the people here seem empty on the inside.
 
8:22 PM
@Chopper3 I dance like that after a few beers.
 
I'm the doctor's mask/cowbell guy in the back
 
@Chopper3 and Dr Pepper is now on my keyboard, thanks.
 
@Chopper3 The main dancer's face... It's just hypnotic.
 
I'd totally be that guy with the hood on next to you
@jscott his head barely moves.
 
@jscott pauska is in the blue and white tracksuit
 
8:23 PM
HA!
 
god I hate Notes.
 
tomtom's the smiley bloke in red
 
At least I'm leaving in 6 minutes.
LOL @Chopper3
 
@Cole No, no... Notes hates you. Notes hates everyone.
 
DJ Pauskasock on the boombox
 
8:24 PM
@jscott Notes wants me to choke on my vomit in my sleep and DIE and when I use it, I want that too.
The sweet release of death.
alright I'll bbiab, headed home.
 
outside chance I might nudge 68k before nye - which would be nominal at best but about the most I've achieved in 3 months bar not missing the vom bucket
 
@Chopper3 fucking TomTom...
 
9:13 PM
About to start this;
 
@Chopper3 Wow... That seems a bit too historical for Lego
 
Is that real?
Hmm. No one has any spine. Obviously he is an artist and not a Neo-Nazi. No need to sue him.
 
9:29 PM
@Chopper3 that's deep
NO!!
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@Goatmale I don't see why anyone need be sued for remembering the past. Honestly I think Lego could do the world a healthy history lesson if they produced those kits as Historically Significant Points in Time. It would be in poor taste to market them as toys, or play things. But similar to their Architectural series, which pays homage to famous and inspirational designs of the past, I see no need nor desire to forget the horror human kind has inflicted on itself.
 
Yeah, they could release a statement as eloquent as that, or they could pay their legal team to sue an artist. Sad that they chose the latter.
 
What?
 
This stupid Sims Android game is addicting.
 
9:53 PM
@Goatmale Do you mean addicting as a transitive verb or addictive as an adjective
 
Hold on, I'm reading up on transitive verbs
 
@Goatmale "This game is addicting me to it right now in the present tense as we speak" vs "This game is addictive, in general"
 
The stupid Sims Android game is additcting to me.
It's no Sims 1, though.
 
I could never get into those
 
10:42 PM
@ewwhite Finally got the server today. Even more strange drama. It actually got diverted to Denver. Nevertheless, it's here, it's awesome, and I already ordered caddies for it to stack it full of my drives that I got for it.
Gonna slam VMware on it and have me some funs.
I would also like to lay claim to taking Chopper from 67,990 to 68,000 and simultaneously pushing this answer of his to 50: serverfault.com/questions/229833/…
Huzzah.
Happy 68k @Chopper3
 
nice.
 
11:05 PM
@WesleyDavid I have more caddies.
@WesleyDavid and go slam TomTom!! Or reopen this one ;)
 
@ewwhite Reopened!
 
@WesleyDavid so, how's the server?
you can install onto it...
and expand the array when the time comes.
 
11:44 PM
do it, do it!
 

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