The Comms Room

Michael Hampton

22:00

@HopelessN00b This is why we don't give developers root access.

ewwhite

Bought a McRib last night... I wasn't in the mood to eat so, so it was placed in the fridge. Dare I try to eat it now?

I sense that McDonalds doesn't do well with being refrigerated...

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite I'm not sure I would have eaten that last night, either.

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Q: OpenVPN (HideMyAss) client on Ubuntu: Route only HTTP traffic

I want to use HideMyAss VPN (hidemyass.com) on Ubuntu Linux to route only HTTP (ports 80 & 443) traffic to the HideMyAss VPN server, and leave all the other traffic (MySQL, SSH, etc.) alone. I'm running Ubuntu on AWS EC2 instances. The problem is that when I try and run the default HMA scrip...

Iain

@ewwhite is it safe to eat at all ?

Michael Hampton

@Iain McDonald's is usually about as safe as military rations...

ewwhite

:( probably not.

I only eat McDonalds when I hate myself.

Michael Hampton

22:03

Though MREs last longer.

ewwhite

I've been battling the ILO from hell all day.

Iain

@MichaelHampton I've only eaten in McDonalds once and that was a 'healthy' ham roll + salad, the other 5 or 6 times I've been in were when I was in Australia and I had a coffee and used the wifi

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Ah, so you're our new consultant, eh? Welcome aboard, we did warn yu up front...

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b If only you knew...

[root@esx1 ~]# hponcfg -f pass.xml
HP Lights-Out Online Configuration utility
Version 4.0.1 Date 09/24/2012 (c) Hewlett-Packard Company, 2012
Firmware Revision = 2.07 Device type = iLO 2 Driver name =
</-- ERROR :      STATUS= 0x0001
     MESSAGE= Syntax error: Line #0: syntax error near "?>" in the line: "" -->
Script failed

Michael Hampton

It won't kill you, so it must be healthy?

voretaq7

22:06

@MichaelHampton and tastier than MREs

HopelessN00b

@Iain Oh, so you're what used up Australia's bandwidth that week.

Iain

@HopelessN00b mostly

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Ouch. I think your ILO's effed up.

Iain

MRE ?

ewwhite

[root@esx1 ~]# sh CP017737.scexe
FLASH_iLO2 v1.12 for Linux (Aug 31 2009)
Copyright 2009 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
Firmware image: ilo2_212.bin

ERROR: Make sure hp Lights-Out driver is installed and loaded. Also, execute the utility as 'root'. []
Component XML file: CP017737.xml
CP017737.xml reports firmware version 2.12

***Flash firmware using channel interface has failed. Try direct flash next...
***Note: This operation will flash the firmware on the
         iLO 2 in this server with version "2.12".

Michael Hampton

22:07

Meal, Ready-to-Eat

The Meal, Ready-to-Eat – commonly known as the MRE – is a self-contained, individual field ration in lightweight packaging bought by the United States military for its service members for use in combat or other field conditions where organized food facilities are not available. The MRE replaced the canned MCI or Meal, Combat, Individual rations in 1981 and is the intended successor to the lighter LRP ration developed by the United States Army for Special Forces and Ranger patrol units in Vietnam. History The first soldier ration established by a Congressional Resolution during the Re...

Iain

ah - cheers

voretaq7

@Iain inedible crap in a self-heating pouch

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b I had to call someone in the warehouse in Anaheim who didn't speak English... and walk her through finding the factory default password on the server.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite - if you have access to a linux system that can access the ilo via https, try github.com/seveas/python-hpilo

voretaq7

one of the reservists I went to college with was addicted to that shit

ewwhite

22:09

@DennisKaarsemaker Didn't have the password.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

ah feck

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Ugh, good times.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

if esx1 is a linux host (judging by the name it's not), you can run it locally too

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker Yeah that failed, too.

I also tried loading via XML.

nope

Syntax errors for every command I tried...

</-- ERROR :      STATUS= 0x0001
     MESSAGE= Syntax error: Line #0: syntax error near "?>" in the line: "" -->
Script failed

Dennis Kaarsemaker

can you share the XML, password edited out of course?

ewwhite

22:12

@DennisKaarsemaker Doesn't matter. It all failed.

even the scripts that work elsewhere.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

ilo from hell indeed

haven't seen one that bad yet

ewwhite

I can run hponcfg -w ilo.xml

and get readable output...

but importing the same file via hponcfg -f ilo.xml results in the shitty syntax error

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Never tried that, don't think it's supported at all

ewwhite

It normally works.

Like I said, I called the warehouse, did an hponcfg -r to go to factory settings...

and cried...

I mean, had someone read the password from the server tag.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

There are some firmware versions (though I don't think I've seen 2.07 do it) that output <RIBCL VERSION="..." /> instead of <RIBCL VERSION="...">, causing it al to go boom

WesleyDavid

22:38

@voretaq7 AKA, shit on a shingle.

AKA Meals Refusing to Exit.

Lucas Kauffman

well well well

@WesleyDavid I guess you will be needing some laxatives

WesleyDavid

Wow, the new questions page is a procession if tripe.

Michael Hampton

Yeah, and I'm out of close votes.

Lucas Kauffman

Got 23 left, let's close this shit down

Iain

@WesleyDavid it's the weekend - there is nothing for them to hide behind

WesleyDavid

22:43

@Iain Yeah, I'm not too surprised. Felt like whinging.

Iain

we should stop accepting questions on Friday's at 5pm PST until 8am Monday in Aus

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain there should be a way that if you include words like 'home', you can't submit the Q

Michael Hampton

Yes. Let's blacklist the word "issue" while we're at it.

Lucas Kauffman

btw any of you guys have ever had a Microtik router in their hands?

Iain

next meta whinge ahoy serverfault.com/questions/458423/…

WesleyDavid

22:58

@Iain Release the whimpering!!

Lucas Kauffman

"scumbag lucas, comes in once after a month, makes people whine on meta within 5 minutes"

WesleyDavid

@LucasKauffman I hope you expended all your close votes at least. =P

Michael Hampton

Bah, his previous question suffers from the same problem, but only got one close vote.

Lucas Kauffman

busy with that

WesleyDavid

@LucasKauffman Enjoy

@MichaelHampton Oh we can fix that...

Wow, image hosting website with 20 requests per second at peak. Yep, he's running a campus coed porn site.

Hey, that reminds me, where has Mr. quarter-million users on IIS 7 with SMTP services been lately?

I've wanted to get him to email me.

MonsterMMORPG, Turkey

161 1 11

smtp sql-server performance core email iis7.5 windows-server-2008

Man that guy is sitting on a gold mine

Iain

23:03

0

Q: On-premise VMware vSphere vs Amazon VPC for small business

Background I have been managing all the IT for a small business (owned by a family member) of ~5 users for about 10 years. Since about 2 years the infrastructure is 100% virtual running on VMware vSphere on a single physical server (local storage) located at their office. I would classify the u...

amazon-web-services vmware-vsphere cloud infrastructure

shopping ?

WesleyDavid

@Iain NARQy as the day is long. What is he even asking?

Michael Hampton

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Q: Bluetooth mouse pairing with Fedora 17?

I have an otherwise perfectly working install of Fedora 17 on my Macbook Pro 8,2. I paired my mouse successfully, and easily, yesterday and used it for several hours. Today, after resuming the OS and turning the mouse on, they can not find each other. I have unpaired and tried dozens of times and...

linux fedora bluetooth

WesleyDavid

@Iain There is not a single question mark in his text.

Adrian

@WesleyDavid polling

WesleyDavid

@Iain Yeah, that's NARQ, a sprinkle of shopping, as well as Not Constructive since he's asking for a conversation concerning the viability of taking a decade+ old business with workflows that we know nothing about, and wondering if we can encourage or discourage him from using a certain service.

Michael Hampton

23:06

Debate, arguments, polling, extended discussion, or shopping.

Adrian

Got so long-winded that he forgot to actually ask us what the differences were between them and got lost.

Lucas Kauffman

thats all the q's closed

Michael Hampton

5

Q: Active Directory in the cloud

My company is considering implementing Active Directory and Windows Server to manage our local network and workstations. The main benefits sought are central management of machines, security policies, and roaming profiles. When using Windows Server for these purposes, does it ever make sense to...

windows-server-2008 active-directory cloud rackspace roaming-profile

WesleyDavid

So I suppose it would be inappropriate of me to answer that with: "Maybe."

Iain

@WesleyDavid perhaps

WesleyDavid

23:08

Domain Controllers in a public cloud. Stab me in the eye with a wiggle blade dagger already.

Michael Hampton

@WesleyDavid AD was the first thing on his list. I just stopped there...

Adrian

WTF is it with people wanting to put ALL the things in the cloud? damn amateurs.

WesleyDavid

@Adrian Seriously. Real pros use their cell phones.

Iain

@Adrian devops

freiheit

@Adrian At my work, the great-great-great-grandbosses have decreed we'll move everything to the cloud over the next few years

Michael Hampton

23:13

@freiheit That's plenty of time to get your resume updated.

Adrian

@freiheit Do they even know what those words mean?

Iain

ooh irc doesn't work from here on IPv6

freiheit

@Adrian hahahahaha

Michael Hampton

@Iain I think he.net blocks IRC

@Iain tunnelbroker.net/forums/index.php?topic=2205.0

Iain

@MichaelHampton something timed out and I got connected

Michael Hampton

23:14

@Iain Probably by IPv4

Adrian

@freiheit Yeah. My boss at $job[-1] wanted to do that. And then I explained what kind of pipe they'd have to buy to store X/Windows session files in public cloud storage.

freiheit

@Adrian But this is related: cenic.org/RFP/Cloud/CENIC_RFP_Cloud_Services.pdf (RFP from some earlier parts of the cloud initiative)

Iain

@MichaelHampton yeah

Adrian

When they realized that the cost of the pipe would be $750k the first year, that idea got dropped like a bag of festering dog crap.

Iain

@MichaelHampton but IPv4 is so IRC - get the De Lorien the 1990's are calling

Michael Hampton

23:16

@Iain So if you take their test and become a "Sage" then you can get it unblocked, I guess.

IPv4 was deployed January 1, 1983.

Or 1 January 1983, depending on where in the world you are.

Adrian

@MichaelHampton cool. 30th anniversary

Michael Hampton

@Adrian It needs to die now.

Adrian

@MichaelHampton Yes, I know. Best of luck with that.

Michael Hampton

I wonder if we can get RFCs oneboxed in here.

freiheit

@MichaelHampton Like a Logan's Run type deal? vaporized on the 30th birthday?

gparent

23:18

I'm trying to upvote this question

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Q: Samba 4 or Active Directory

Now that Samba 4 has finally been released we find ourselves in new position of having a choice of of either upgrading our Samba 3 domain to either a Samba 4 domain on Linux or a Windows AD domain on Windows 2012. Given that we are equally expert at managing Windows and Linux servers, is there a...

active-directory samba samba4

And it's undoing it

Any ideas?

Michael Hampton

@freiheit Well when they rolled out IPv4 it was a hard deadline. You switched on 83/1/1 or you were cut off from the network. This no-deadline shit means everybody is procrastinating.

gparent

The question isn't exactly the greatest on the site but I think the questions are relevant and not exactly "shopping", maybe I'm wrong.

But either way I'm still curious about the undo

Nevermind, it finally worked.

freiheit

@MichaelHampton I don't think we've gotten around to procrastinating it yet...

Michael Hampton

@freiheit Does your company have IPv6 plans?

WesleyDavid

@gparent Trying to upvote that prime example of how not to ask a question on ServerFault?

freiheit

23:22

@MichaelHampton Honestly, I don't really know. There's too many layers (vertical and horizontal) of bureaucracy between me and such plans. But, really, what's the motivation when you have a half used IPv4 /16?

Adrian

@MichaelHampton In 1983 there were no non-edu/non-commercial users.

The two eras are NOT analogous.

Iain

with any luck we'll clear the /review/close queue this year

Michael Hampton

@freiheit Haha, if RIPE finds out about that they'll be all over your company to return some of them

freiheit

@MichaelHampton Between calstate.edu and CENIC's websites, I could probably find out about plans with sufficient googlage... hmmm...

Adrian

@MichaelHampton Heh. I'd like to see RIPE get all over IBM to give back more of their 9/8. IBM tell them to go piss up rope.

Michael Hampton

23:23

@freiheit Oh, you're at a .edu? Yeah, it'll be a couple more years. We aren't quite out of IPv4 addresses here yet.

WesleyDavid

Apple has a number of /8s I thought

Iain

127/8 is mostly wasted

freiheit

@MichaelHampton IPv6 switch would involve convoluted bureaucratic communications across many vertical and horizontal silo boundaries... It'd pretty much take an act of congress to make it happen faster than a few years after we run out of IPv4 addresses...

Michael Hampton

@freiheit Yes, I'd believe that of an .edu, unfortunately.

Iain

@freiheit who is the we in that ?

freiheit

23:32

@Iain Well, I'm at sonoma.edu, which is one of 24 calstate.edu campuses. The largest 4-year-granting university system in the US.

WesleyDavid

@freiheit You used the words bureaucratic, vertical, horizontal, silo, and boundaries in one sentence. We'll have to kill you now.

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Then again, I put the term cloud services on my business card, so he who is without sin...

freiheit

@WesleyDavid Now I have to strangle you.

WesleyDavid

Iain

@freiheit I kicked him because I can @WesleyDavid :)

WesleyDavid

^ That'll be our meetup.

Damn watermarks on gifs. "Oh hey I saw a URL in a funny gif! LET ME GO THERE SO I CAN FIND MEANS OF SENDING THEM CURRENCY."

freiheit

23:35

@WesleyDavid I'm not sure I could last that long in the ring... ;)

Maybe we should have a drinking contest instead

WesleyDavid

Uh oh, animated gifs appear. Someone call @Zypher!!

Iain

@freiheit I have a bottle of Marston's Strong IPA on the go atm :)

freiheit

^^ that one?

Iain

@freiheit yep - vvvvv nice

freiheit

@Iain 6.25% isn't strong at all... here in California they'd nearly call that a "Session Pale", not a "Strong"...

Iain

23:41

Session ale here is 3.5%

Shane Madden

-3

Q: Suggest a VPS hosting as per my requirements (Apache,Linux,cPanel,PHP,MySQL,PhpMyAdmin...)

I am totally new in using VPS hosting and I am confused of choosing the right VPS with right configuration according to my requirements. I need my VPS to have Linux, Apache, PHP5, MySQL, PhpMyAdmin, cPanel installed. Additionally I need to have DDoS and SSL security. A HDD of 25GB and Bandwidth o...

configuration memory vps

usually the software are not installed on a VPS how to install this software (say, PHP & MySQL) on the VPS? Should I buy a software from local shop, transfer that soft to the VPS using FTP, and install it there?

Joel E Salas

If you're working on a Saturday putcho hands up

Shane Madden

Local shop selling PHP and MySQL, you say?

Iain

@JoelESalas not me - it's almost Sunday

Joel E Salas

@Iain In this case you are not obligated to put your hands in the air, and/or wave them as if you do not care

Iain

23:45

^^ that's nice too

Joel E Salas

@Iain I'm drinking a Capri Sun with vodka in it

freiheit

@Iain ratebeer.com/beer/marstons-old-empire-bottle/24312 hmmm...

Iain

@JoelESalas it's not hoppy enough :)

Joel E Salas

@Iain ratebeer.com/beer/avery-mephistopheles-stout/55211

HopelessN00b

Wow, what the fuckity-fuck? My "find me a long desk for my big monitors" question would actually improve the front page right about now.

Joel E Salas

23:48

Best beer I've ever had. Tastes like demon blood. My girlfriend had a whole bottle, she was picking fights in under an hour

Iain

@JoelESalas stout - bleuch

Joel E Salas

Not just stout, but Imperial stout

freiheit

@JoelESalas That's pretty decent, but I like Avery's IPA better....

Iain

Jaipur IPA is my favourite beer

Michael Hampton

So if someone has a question about a tool for running unit tests on PHP code, that's SO, right?

freiheit

23:51

@JoelESalas ratebeer.com/beer/deschutes-the-abyss/65832 (had some thu night and have a bottle in the fridge)

Joel E Salas

@freiheit Do they have that at Bevmo

Iain

ratebeer.com/beer/brewdog-tactical-nuclear-penguin/114110 that's serious beer

freiheit

@JoelESalas I got it at a smaller local bottle shop, where they ran out in under a day. Bevmo would probably run out pretty fast, too...

Joel E Salas

@freiheit You really can't mass-produce an excellent beer.

gparent

@WesleyDavid I honestly wasn't sure

freiheit

23:53

@Iain I've actually had that. I'd argue it's not really beer, but it was tasty.

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton Yes, SO is where you find all the tools.

WesleyDavid

@gparent Such a conversational tome that would require reams of discussion -- definitely not Q/A. Dude needs to hone his thoughts and ask about 10 different scoped questions instead. =/

@HopelessN00b huh huh, you said tool.

Joel E Salas

@freiheit That's definitely not beer, more like a liqueur. Still sounds delicious

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b Yeah, that's what I thought. So I wonder how in hell he ended up here?

freiheit

@JoelESalas the taste was sorta halfway between whisky and barleywine...

Iain

23:54

@freiheit It takes an industrial freezer to get it to that level of alcohol

HopelessN00b

@WesleyDavid Nuhuh... I mean, porcupiney said it first!

@MichaelHampton The fence on the pen is clearly less than watertight.

freiheit

@Iain Yes, and despite there being some traditional freeze-distillation beer styles, I think once you distill beer (via boiling or freezing), you have something that isn't really beer anymore.

Michael Hampton

Eh, five more minutes before I can VTC that thing

Iain

@freiheit yep

Joel E Salas

I want to make a histogram of the songs Pandora plays

Michael Hampton

23:58

@pauska You know you just answered a Visual Stupido question, right?

Joel E Salas

and figure out if I'm taking crazy pills or it really plays me the same ten fucking songs over and over

Iain

@freiheit the Marston's strong/ Jaipur is about as strong as I like to get beyond that I'll shift to wine

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