The Comms Room

ewwhite

00:37

So it begins...

Temp 2: Ambient Zone Failed 104F Caution: 102F; Critical:111F

ewwhite

00:55

That's from a server in Virginia Beach...

Michael Hampton

01:37

That's the ambient temperature? The servers must be cooking in their own juices, then.

In Southeast Virginia, about 1,179 people are without power. Most of those power outages are in Norfolk and Virginia Beach.

@ewwhite So they have backup power...but not for the air conditioners?

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton fwiw a lot of UPS's state not to plug printers or air conditioners into them due to the large power spikes

Maybe htey just heeded the sticker on the back of the 500va UPS they installed?

ewwhite

02:05

Power was lost... AC didn't kick in properly.

Shane Madden

03:17

They doing preemptive power outages or what?

Michael Hampton

Those 60 mph wind gusts tend to knock down trees. And trees tend to get knocked down onto power lines. And knocked down power lines tend to stop transmitting power. And that's when your pager goes off.

Michael Hampton

05:04

@ewwhite Here's a real puzzle for you.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton That reminds me, I went to install a DL380 into a new customer rack the other day, and the rails it came with didn't fit, because they were designed to clip in from behind the post (where the cage nut would normally go); their existing Dells were designed to clip into the front of the post (where the screw would normally go)

But their rack had a lip that stopped the HP rails from going into the hole as they obscured the the rail

That's not normal, right?

l46kok

05:24

If you are self teaching how to use SQL Server 2008, do you start off with administration or programming first? I'm a little bit lost

http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Microsoft-Server-Administration-Programmer/dp/0470247967/ref=cm_lmf_tit_2
http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Microsoft-Server-Programming-Programmer/dp/0470257024/ref=cm_lmf_tit_1

WesleyDavid

05:46

@l46kok Depends on what you're goals and tasks are going to be. I had to bootstrap into SQL Server myself and started with administration because... well, I'm an administrator.

Then from there I could go into various avenues that were closer to development as needed. To get deep into database administration on any platform, the line is very blurred between an administrator and a developer.

To be a good DBA you have to have a deep understanding of database development, and to be a good database developer you have to have a deep understanding of database / server administration.

@l46kok Basically, follow everything by Sean and Jen McGownan: midnightdba.itbookworm.com

Good people.

Journeyman Geek

hmm, looks like I have an excuse to set up an AD now

ewwhite

06:32

@MichaelHampton Downvoted.

l46kok

@WesleyDavid Thank you. I think that helps a lot

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson G7 or Gen8?

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite - g7 and they weren't sliding rails they were the cheapie shelf rails

ewwhite

DL380's only come with sliding rails.

180's have fixed rails.

Mark Henderson

Hmm maybe it was a 180 then; that was a long day and my memory is hazy

ewwhite

06:40

The shitty models have rails where the server just sits on top of them.

Mark Henderson

They're the ones. (We used them on a different rack to mount some generic white box rack servers)

ewwhite

And the rails suck because they don't have much in the way of length adjustment

Mark Henderson

So they basically suck in general? ;)

ewwhite

there's a handy company, racksolutions.com/hp , that alternative rail solutions for the shit I need.

Mark Henderson

But it's not normal for the rack to have a lip that stops the shitty rails from fitting in though, is it? The lip has square holes for mounting some stuff on the sides, like shelves or whatever

ewwhite

06:46

@MarkHenderson I don't know what you're talking about...

(creative mount...)

Mark Henderson

Yeah that makes me think its a stupid rack

ewwhite

Mark Henderson

Haha looks like a balancing act, don't lean on it

Anyway I'm out, cya

ewwhite

But for a DL1xx-series, the idea is to use square holes... The rails mount from the inside surface of the vertical rail.

Iain

07:18

G'day

Journeyman Geek

thats a odd urban myth

apparently overfilling a hard drive makes in unreliable, least acording to my lecturer

tempted to try ;p

RobM

08:11

Your lecturer is a tool

Journeyman Geek

Its hillarious when he gets things wrong

he's stronger on the management rather than the operations side

RobM

Its hard to imagine being weaker on the operations side than "filling up a disk makes it unreliable".

Journeyman Geek

;p

RobM

You should ask him if setting all your word documents to use a smaller font will save on disk space too.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'll leave my inner BOFH to be for now, This guy is marking my exams

RobM

08:20

ah... yes tread softly then

Sathya

howdy folks.

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Q: Configuring a Domain Controller for an Internal Domain in Windows Server 2012

I'm looking to create a domain called "developer.domain.com" to join computers to. I need to make a domain controller for this domain in Windows Server 2012, this is my first time. What are the steps? So far I have researched and pulled together steps from different sources but I don't know if I...

should I send this over?

RobM

good morning

Yeah I'd say that's one of ours

^ @Sathya

Sathya

@RobM thanks, sent it

RobM

Thanks

Iain

@RobM it's looking like you tagline might win by virtue of being least disliked :D

RobM

08:31

@iain that doesn't surprise me.. "least disliked" i mean, not necessarily my one being the one.

Iain

@RobM to be honest I don't think it'll make a difference at all, no one sees past the name - like the FAQ they are just pixels we can point people at after we've already beaten them up

but if you don't try

RobM

@iain I agree. The problem is with people who *already* don't read descriptions, don't read FAQs, don't read the discussions on meta, etc.

Expecting them to change because we've altered something they already ignore seems senseless to me. Still it makes marginally more sense to change the migration description than to talk about "don't migrate crap" on meta.so

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