The Comms Room

Michael Hampton

15:00

I just went with the simple answer.

0

A: 12cm vs 8cm fans in a 4U server chassis

A 120mm fan would require a chassis taller than 2U.

Nevermind. NOW I see he said 4U.

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra I think the comment just posted is right.

It could be an economic issue. There is so much more demand for 8cm and so little demand for 12cm that manufacturers don't want to tool-up to make the 12cm ones that are going to occupy warehouse space for the next couple years. Stocking fewer different kinds of parts is known to reduce costs. — Skaperen 2 mins ago

MDMarra

I meant more "Does it really belong here?"

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Avamar with the right agents? :)

MDMarra

@ewwhite NetBackup, SCDPM, etc?

I don't use SCDPM, but I've heard good things.

I think @ChrisS has it deployed.

Michael Hampton

Now that you mention it...no, that's NC

HopelessN00b

15:06

@MDMarra OH, with 4 close votes already, I'd say not. More so here than any other SE site, but still not.

MDMarra

At the time I posted it there were zero close

Chris S

Who what?!

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Sure, but 5 close votes in 10 minutes is a pretty clear answer to whether or not it belong here, no?

Chris S

@MDMarra @ewwhite Yep, we run DPM. It's strictly Windows only, but works quite well.

MDMarra

@HopelessN00b I'd say so

Iain

15:09

@tombull89 if something is closed for any reason other than exact dupe or it is deleted it is considered a failed migration and returned to the pit of despair whence it came

MDMarra

I can't believe my "Should I defrag my VM" answer is +13

I can write a super complicated answer to an AD problem and get +2, but I explain what a VMDK is and it's +13

wtf SF

Chris S

@MDMarra You get the most rep from good Answer to dumb Questions

2

MDMarra

I'm quickly realizing that

l0c0b0x

Good morning all!

SpacemanSpiff

guten morgen!

Michael Hampton

15:16

The problem is, dumb questions which are also topical and won't get hammered out of existence are very rare.

SpacemanSpiff

that's why they invented power drills

you bore into your brain at the temple to escape

MDMarra

I'm only 5 200+ days away from Epic!

Iain

I'm still 41

Michael Hampton

Only 28

SpacemanSpiff

NICE

So... apparently this remote site I'm supporting decided that they're going to route all their subnets through their aruba wireless controller

all of them

Chris S

15:21

I'm a long ways from it..

SpacemanSpiff

le sigh

Michael Hampton

Pass out the pitchforks and torches to the lynch mob.

SpacemanSpiff

I'm getting close

Dan

I'm having the worst day I've had in years :(

SpacemanSpiff

they just dropped off the f'ing WAN

LOL

Iain

15:23

@Dan stuck on a motorway ?

Michael Hampton

Wow, it took that long?

Iain

ay ?

Dan

No - I've been working on a project for ages (On and off). The whole thing has been crap since day one, but it looks I've got two of the sites involved mixed up in my head so I've spent a week telling people "Yeah, it's all ready to go" who have then in turn spoken to customers when, well, it's not.

It's a long and complex scenario and it's not strictly my fault (ANd it's certainly not my fault that it's NOT ready, but I should've been the one to pick up and correct other peoples misconception).

And I really feel stupid

MDMarra

@Dan Don't feel bad. I formatted the OS drive of the wrong production server once.

Shit happens

Dan

@MDMarra Ace :D And it sure does

In better news, it's time to go and get the ingredients for my curry! See you all :)

Hennes

15:36

@MDMarra Your defrag answer was short and easy to understand. it might not be complex, but I think it can help a lot of people. So I gave it a +1.

And apparently so did others

WesleyDavid

This is an appalling migration even from SO: serverfault.com/questions/440179/…

Just based on standards of written communication, it shouldn't have been migrated.

I flagged this question for migration to serverfault.com, because you said you want to do it without programming. — Philipp 9 hours ago

What the actual fuck.

Michael Hampton

@WesleyDavid You expect DEVELOPERS to learn English?

WesleyDavid

And that comment has one upvote. Was it ironic?

Five people voted to migrate it, and at least three of them thought that was migrate worthy.

Journeyman Geek

well, there's no flag for being a blithering pebkac?

WesleyDavid

I want to press the big red button.

Hennes

15:41

Read question. Think of answer. Check registry. Write answer... so far so good.

Check for duplicates. Crap. I am doing something in the wrong order.

ewwhite

@MDMarra how do i check those epic days?

Iain

@Philipp: I don't know why you thought this question was good enough to migrate and I especially don't know why you though it would be a good fit for SF when you don't even appear to have an account with us. Please don't migrate crap an please think carefully before sending to sites that you don't appear to be familiar with. — Iain 1 min ago

Michael Hampton

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Q: How to choose NoSQL database engine?

We have a database with following specs: 30k records, 7mb in size 20 inserts/second 1000 updates/second 1000 range selects/second, by secondary index, approx 10 rows each needs at least one secondary index needs some mechanism to expire keys if they are not updated for 75 secs (can be done via ...

Is this or is this not a shopping question?

@Iain Good start. But I'm afraid there are way too many SO users to use such an individualized approach.

HopelessN00b

@Iain I like mine better.

@Phillip Using that logic, you should have voted to migrate this to the poker stack exchange site. Poker has less to do with programming than ServerFault. — HopelessN00b 26 secs ago

Iain

@MichaelHampton I know but it makes me feel better to have (hopefully) educated someone. Unfortunately you can't @ someone who doesn't have a connection with a post - I've tried it.

Michael Hampton

15:46

@HopelessN00b There's a poker stack exchange site?

HopelessN00b

Gave your comment an upvote anyway, and only wish there was a way to do @thedumbasswhoupvotedPhillip.

Michael Hampton

Oh, I flagged his comment

HopelessN00b

Kinda seems doomed with the legal status of online poker in the US (fuck you very much, D.C.), but it's there anyway.

ewwhite

Geez... 24 more days to get Epic.

Not fair.

Michael Hampton

I only got like 40 rep yesterday.

ewwhite

15:49

@MichaelHampton I think I was 20

Michael Hampton

"Harepoint" eh?

Hennes

Two more hours until I can finally bounty my question.

Waiting is hard. :(

Iain

@Hennes which one ?

Hennes

4

Q: Mixing SATA and SAS drives on same controller

I have a desktop at home with both SAS and SATA ports. (The SAS ports are supplied by a 3ware 9750 card). Currently I have 5 SATA drives connected to these. One small SSD to boot from and four larger drives to hold data. I now want to add a SAS drive. As far as I know this should just work. Howe...

sata sas

My first question ever on SE

Michael Hampton

Ooo, I have a bounty ending in a few hours.

My first question ever was...

4

Q: KVM virtual machines cannot reach IPv6 web sites

I have a freshly installed Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 virtual machine which is completely unable to reach any IPv6 web pages, despite apparently having proper IPv6 connectivity. In addition, other Linux VMs cannot reach IPv6 web sites either. This setup has previously worked, with full IPv6 conn...

linux windows-server-2008-r2 kvm-virtualization ipv6 radvd

Hennes

15:55

I want to rip out my SSD (which is the boot drive in my desktop) and put it in my laptop. Then replace the boot drive, either with a smaller SSD (the current 80GB is way to big, I one only 1/4th of it) or with a cheap 2.5 inch SAS drive (Savvio 15k1's are 16 euro)

And before anyone mentions this: Yes, that savvio would be old.

Chris S

Anybody want a SFF-8484 to SFF-8087 50cm cable? Apparently I need a 80cm cable...

Michael Hampton

Haha, I don't need a 50cm cable either. The one I have has been in the junkbox for years...

Hennes

8484 was what? 8087 was the 4 channel plug?

I really should know this, but I end up hitting wikipedia everytime to check if I got it right

Michael Hampton

Chris S

^Yeah, 8484

voretaq7

15:59

@HopelessN00b there's still table games.

Hennes

But no, I already got all the cables I got. (which is two, one SFF-8087 to 4x SAS, one SFF8087 to 4x SATA.) And only 8 supported ports on my home computer

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b Alternate answer: "I thought they shut down sexuality.SE?"

ewwhite

Hmm?

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Yeah, but all the questions on poker.se (or most online poker forums/Q&A sites) are about online poker (go figure), so now they're plagued by retards asking about retardery experienced/inflicted in the playchip crap that's misleadingly called poker.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b whelp, maybe they should ban discussion of online poker and limit it to just the game itself?

HopelessN00b

16:03

Not good for long term viability when your options are admit to an active criminal conspiracy to gasp gamble online (teh h0rr0rz!) or answer jackass #57836134 on the same jackass question about why people treat valueless playchips like they have no value. :/

@voretaq7 Well, they really should ban discussion of playchips, since that's not really poker, but then most of the traffic would dry up, so... kinda doomed either way, as I see it.

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b And that guy's comment got nuked.

David

Anyone help me decipher email headers?

Michael Hampton

WTF?

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Q: Can I rent exclusive time on a powerful server running linux?

My company is involved in a proposal that requires speed estimates of our software on a server with the latest & greatest processors. This is not the first time we've been in this situation. The servers themselves are too expensive to buy a new one every time, so we end up extrapolating fr...

linux benchmarking

HopelessN00b

Oh, I just got HP's new joke-of-the-day email.

Description: CUSTOMER ADVISORY: HP 4000/6000/8000 Enterprise Virtual Arrays, HP 4100/6100/8100 Enterprise Virtual Arrays, and HP 4400/6400/8400 Enterprise Virtual Arrays - 1 TB and 2 TB FATA disk drive critical firmware upgrade

Noah

HIEIEIEI

David

16:14

Trying to figure out if I can tell where an email is coming from

but the headers dont make much sense to me

HopelessN00b

"Enterprise [...] 1 and 2TB FATA."

Funny stuff.

Noah

@David Call FBI

They might have a clue

Michael Hampton

@David Remember that Received: lines may be fake; you can only really trust what your own server thinks about where it came from.

David

@Noah >:[

HopelessN00b

@Noah Not in my experience.

David

16:15

If anyone wants to take a look...I'd appreciate it pastebin.com/V5PZ3Phk

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b FATA? I haven't heard of that technology yet.

Noah

@HopelessN00b They are not there for noobs

MikeyB

@MichaelHampton I think the DS8000 used FATA disks for a while. SATA disks with a FC interposer, IIRC.

Michael Hampton

@David That looks pretty straightforward. What's the question?

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton According to the Google, it's not a technology.

Federally Administered Tribal Areas

The Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) (; ) is a semi-autonomous tribal region in the northwest of present-day Pakistan, lying between Afghanistan to the west and north, and the provinces of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to the east and Balochistan to the south. The FATA comprises seven agencies (tribal districts) and six frontier regions. The territory is almost exclusively inhabited by Pashtun tribes, who also live in the neighboring Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan and are Muslims by faith. History The region was annexed in the 19th century during the British colonial period, and th...

David

16:16

@MichaelHampton I'm trying to see if I can tell what server it's originating from

Michael Hampton

@David Seems obvious to me. So where did it come from?

David

@MichaelHampton thats the question, its not obvious to me!

Chris S

MikeyB

@David Looks straightforward to me. Came from 173.AAA.AA.AAA claiming to be (at least in it's EHLO greeting) office.XXXXX.org.

David

thats our public IP, is there any way to tell what internal IP it came from?

Noah

16:18

I am looking for a million dollar Laptop, any recommendation? Should run at the light of speed, sorry I mean speed of light

MikeyB

@David Only by looking at your firewall logs.

David

@MikeyB firewall? lol

we dont have the funds for such a device

MikeyB

@David Sorry, I mean PAT endpoint :p

Michael Hampton

@David It seems to have been locally generated on that machine.

David

@MichaelHampton "that machine"?

Michael Hampton

16:20

@David The one whose name you replaced with SSSSSS.local

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton It's actually just a cheap way of putting an ATA disk on Fibre, because.... I dunno, brain damage, or something.

FATA (hard drive)

The FATA or FC-ATA is a type of computer hard disk drive. FATA is simply the low cost ATA or SATA disk drive equipped with a small external converter, that changes the interface to Fibre Channel (FC). This allows users to use the disk in the enterprise-class disk enclosure, at about half of the cost of a native FC drive (cost per gigabyte of capacity). See also * ATA ** Serial ATA ** ATA over Ethernet (AoE) * Fibre Channel (FC) ** Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE)

84104

@David Looks like it was generate locally by root. Possibly a cronjob.

David

@MichaelHampton its possible that it wasnt though?

@84104 its a OS X server, with email notifications DISABLED...but they keep coming

from where, we cant find out

MikeyB

@David Nope. Google reports that it came from that IP - I'd trust it.

David

@MikeyB like I said though, thats our external IP...couldnt that cover any computer within our office?

MikeyB

16:21

Although, last I checked, Google didn't actually add the correct headers for tracking email submitted via IPv6 :). Course that was a few years ago.

Michael Hampton

@David Free up some space on the volume and see if the alerts stop...

84104

Received: by office.XXXXX.org (Postfix, from userid 0)
id 9CE894B422E; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT)

David

@MichaelHampton Its a Time Machine HDD, it manages its own space

Michael Hampton

Yep, that's mail originating locally

David

but the emails are getting annoying, every day

MikeyB

16:22

@David Yep. Get your PAT device to log connections.

David

@MikeyB forgive me...but PAT?

Michael Hampton

@David Well I think we can safely conclude that you don't have a fake email, but a machine which is sending unwanted email.

David

@MichaelHampton I know its not fake, just was hoping to determine where it originated exactly

Michael Hampton

If not on SSSSS.local, then on office.XXXX.org

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton I have a bunch of those too. Fixed it by unplugging our monitoring server.

MikeyB

16:24

@David port address translation. It's what Cisco (correctly) calls what most people just refer to as NAT - the practice of masquerading an entire subnet behind a small pool of IPs.

84104

@David Whatever thinks it's "office.XXXXX.org"

Noah

@84104 Why do you have to mention so many Xs?

84104

@Noah Because copy+paste.

HopelessN00b

@Noah Three X's should be enough for anyone.

ewwhite

FATA drives do not exist.

Michael Hampton

16:26

If you connect a SATA drive to FibreChannel, they both implode and take the universe with them?

David

@84104 I'm pretty sure office.XXXXX.org is the same as SSSSS.local, but pinging office.XXXXX.org = cannot resolve host

Michael Hampton

@David Well we don't know your internal network, but if you want to sign this pen testing contract I'll be happy to figure it out for you... :)

84104

@Noah "I don't always redact, but when I do, I use Cinco Xs"

David

@MichaelHampton haha, all this was setup before i came on board

84104

@David Well, it's postfix, so check the mail log of the device you suspect for that queueid.

HopelessN00b

16:27

@MichaelHampton If only.

Michael Hampton

You're on a DSL line there, there can't be THAT many machines.

David

@MichaelHampton double DSL son

Michael Hampton

Still, the environment's small enough that you could brute force it by checking every machine

HopelessN00b

@David Trade you a T1 for it.

David

@HopelessN00b our internet is pretty damn spiffy here

Michael Hampton

16:28

(You can safely skip the Windows boxes, I think...)

David

its nothing mind-blowing, but its fast

Noah

@David Son, forget about DSL

David

@MichaelHampton that rules out 4 of 20

Noah

Try the new 4G LTE.

Michael Hampton

You should be able to check the other 16 by the time I get back from the coffee maker. :)

(And if not, it's time to document the environment...)

David

16:31

@MichaelHampton (except I don't know what I'm doing lol)

Jeff Ferland

-2

Q: Exchange Server mailbox fails to mount ! Need EDB to PST converter

Our exchange server crashes and it fails to mount as the mailboxes are secured with security bytes via exchange environment. Recomment a way to mount exchange edb files. If you know a good edb to pst converter, please recommend.

exchange

secured with security bytes

84104

@David grep 9CE894B422E /var/log/mail*

David

@84104 nothing

HopelessN00b

@JeffFerland secure-bytes.com

84104

@David On any of the 16 possible hosts?

David

16:34

@84104 Can a non-server OS X computer even send mail?

we only have one OS X server

ewwhite

@David Yes.

84104

@David Yes.

I'm also guessing at the maillog location.

HopelessN00b

@JeffFerland Or, if you don't like the actual answer, just tell him the security bytes are out of entropy, so he should go shake the bit bucket on the Exchange datastore until there's enough entropy to mount the mail boxes.

David

@84104 Theres a /var/log/mail.log, but it only has 2 entries from 2011 saying that Postfix mail system is not running

84104

@David You have to check each host behind that PAT/NAT. Also hope that the log file isn't /dev/null on the one that's actually sending.

HopelessN00b

16:38

Jackass did a rapid edit to change it into something resembling a question, nevermind.

David

@84104 Just from looking @ my desktop OS X computer, /var/log/mail doesnt exist

or any other computer i've checked

WesleyDavid

@Iain Well put.

ewwhite

What power plug do I neeeeed?

HopelessN00b

Where's @voretaq7 ? I've decided to take him up on his offer to trade for my Exchange 2003 server.

84104

@David Might also try sudo postconf | grep office.XXXXX.org.

ewwhite

16:44

"The data center should have both available to you. Seriously... they will have a pile of cables (for unprepared people like you)"

David

@84104 period at the end?

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Whowhatwhere? Someone say that around here?

84104

@David Nope. Full sentences getting the better of me. That lost period is outside the `s but markdown in chat doesn't really make that clear.

ewwhite

-1

Q: Power Supply And Power Cable at Equinix Palo Alto?

I will be doing a server installation at the Palo Alto Equinix Data Center soon and I'm coming in from overseas so I wondering if any of you can help me out regarding power supply can power cable issues. My server power supply is INPUT 100-240V AC ~50/60Hz MAX AC CURRENT 10A-5A Do I need a DC...

cables power-supply

David

@84104 outputs "myhostname = office.XXXX.org

on SSSSSS.local

84104

16:46

@David Sounds like you might have a winner.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Shoulda seen it before he edited it. Even worse.

David

@84104 how to find the mail and stop it is the real issue though :( i was pretty damn sure it was coming from SSSSSS.local, but just wanted to be sure

Michael Hampton

@David Told you it was probably SSSSS.local :)

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b Did you jump on him too soon?

David

@MichaelHampton cant hurt to be sure!

84104

16:46

@David Time to look at the crontabs.

ewwhite

are you thinking, "why is he being flown out to do this?"

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Dude needs to holler at his client to put him on the list of people that can interact with the datacenter staff.

Then again, if the DC will allow him to walk in... "You can come through the doors and open cages, but we just won't tell you what the power drop receptacles are."

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite No, it's still a shit question, and he still needs to ask the datacenter.

Iain

@WesleyDavid yep or get his client to ask

HopelessN00b

@WesleyDavid Then there's that. OK, so you're allowed into the datacenter to hook up a server, but not allowed to know what kind of power plug you'll be using? Sounds like complete bullshit to me.

SmallClanger

16:49

I don't blame him. US power connectors confuse the frig out of me.

David

@84104 again, beyond my knowledge. this is all I know that would send emails i.imgur.com/jFNQw.png

WesleyDavid

@SmallClanger That's because we have to confuse the terrorists, because if you're not for us, you're again' us.

Iain

On a serious note guys, can we stop the BOFHish/snarky/sarcastic comments on the main site please. If you can't say something politely then it's much better that you don't say anything at all.

15

HopelessN00b

@SmallClanger Power plugs in general. Wouldn't it be nice if there was an international standard of any sort?

WesleyDavid

@Iain Doing my best, sir. (By not saying anything at all) =)

Michael Hampton

16:51

@David I know of this great site where you can ask questions and get answers from IT professionals...

WesleyDavid

@MichaelHampton Nah, they're assholes there.

=P

David

@MichaelHampton Last time I posted about OS X stuff, I posted to AskDifferent and nobody replied, and when I mentioned it here, someone said they'd close it!

Iain

@WesleyDavid are you not even answering questions ?

WesleyDavid

Can we have an update on the @Chopp? Still in a drugged up and hurting? =|

Michael Hampton

Yeah, that question wouldn't go anywhere on apple.SE

ewwhite

16:52

US power plugs? Confusing?

WesleyDavid

@Iain I've been hamstrung with work lately, so I just cruise through to say hi and cut up with the gang. I think I answered one question in the last quarter. =|

ewwhite

Have you ever seen a Commando plug?!?

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Kinky.

ewwhite

Iain

@ewwhite yes, lots

SmallClanger

16:53

Meh, commandos are sexy. THey have a good satisfying clunk when you plug them in.

David

@MichaelHampton exactly!

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite No, what the hell is it? A universal power plug adapter or somesuch?

SmallClanger

Swiftly followed by a slightly less satisfying clunk as the draw from your UPS trips the breaker.

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b I got a server in the UK that had two of those...

SmallClanger

Confusing.

HopelessN00b

16:55

@ewwhite Somehow, not what I had in mind when thinking of British commandos.

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b In the US it would be a C19/C20.

Michael Hampton

@David So ask on Server Fault. Seems on topic enough to me.

SmallClanger

@ewwhite The UPSes I use here have 16A commando -> C19

Jeff Ferland

@SmallClanger As opposed to the UK method of "Everything is hot at full utility amperage"

ewwhite

@SmallClanger Those are just power-plug emoticons...

SmallClanger

17:01

Thanks @ewwhite. I can't unsee that now.

ewwhite

A NEMA 6-20 is winking at you... (after being kicked in the face)

David

0

Q: OS X Leopard (10.5) Server -- Unwanted Emails

Our OS X Leopard (10.5) server is sending out an email EVERY DAY for a Disk Full Notification on an external HDD we use for Time Machine backups (which manages it's own disk space, so the disk full notifications are useless). In the Server Admin app, under Settings > Notifications, there's this...

email macosx emailserver macosxserver leopard

HopelessN00b

@JeffFerland It is less confusing. And more motivating to be safe around electrical outlets.

Chopper3

@WesleyDavid getting better, slowly and via some non-fun bumps

SmallClanger

@JeffFerland And we can make proper Tea in less than a week. :P

Jeff Ferland

17:04

@SmallClanger Induction tops boil fast with low draw. Very efficient :)

David

FTC Offering $50,000 to Anyone Who Can Stop Robocalls pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411178,00.asp seems a bit small of a prize...

MDMarra

@ewwhite You can check your progress toward epic at the bottom of /reputation

ewwhite

...that's how I felt when I realized I needed 24 more 200+ point days to reach EPIC.

MDMarra

haha wut

Michael Hampton

Hell, 50 points yesterday, and 10 so far today. I don't think it's happening.

MDMarra

17:12

@MichaelHampton It comes in spurts for me

2

gparent

@MDMarra Ninja'd on that OpenDNS post

Good job :)

MDMarra

Gracias

HopelessN00b

@David Really. 50k wouldn't even cover the guns and ammo you'd need to buy, let alone all the other expenses, like travel and lodging and counter-forensics.

3

gparent

Flagged it as well instead of commenting.

David

@HopelessN00b haha

HopelessN00b

17:19

@David What, there's a better way?

David

@HopelessN00b They shouldn't be so cheap...

something like a 500k prize might help

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra I think that's pretty normal male biology. Coming in spurts and all.

David

especially when you can have a team of up to 10 people

Michael Hampton

Voted to burninate the user.

David

and have to split 50k with them

Michael Hampton

17:26

@MikeyB The "worst" question ever seems to be this one, though while it's a very basic question it doesn't seem quite -17 bad to me.

Chris S

@MichaelHampton I don't remember why we piled on that one... The OP did something to piss us off.

r.tanner.f

-22

Q: Importing about millions of contacts into outlook

I have a CSV file containing about a lot of email IDs(of the order of tens of millions). I want them in my Outlook. But when I try to import them, Outlook crashes every time. So is there any trick/shortcut by which I can get them in my Outlook?

outlook csv import

@MichaelHampton Don't forget this came from you guys :P

Michael Hampton

@r.tanner.f Yes, but that question has entertainment value.

Chris S

@r.tanner.f That's @voretaq7 fault... Don't look at the rest of us!

r.tanner.f

Entertainment? If I had seen it coming I would have rented a popcorn maker.

Michael Hampton

17:31

I got a gold badge off that question!

MikeyB

@MichaelHampton You're right, -18 sounds better.

voretaq7

@ChrisS @r.tanner.f hey at least it got answered on your site (and I'll point out that it was closed and then re-opened on SU, so at least 5 people there thought it was on-topic enough to re-open :-)

Zoredache

I am slightly curious... I wonder if resize2fs sets nohup when it starts running so a disconnection doesn't trash the filesystem. serverfault.com/questions/440313/…

Michael Hampton

@MikeyB Being a mostly Linux admin, if I didn't already know about WSUS from hearing you guys bitch about it, I might have asked a substantially similar question. I don't understand the downvotes at all.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b you WANT qmail?

David

17:34

@MichaelHampton Told you! @Chopper3 is already complaining it should be migrated

Zoredache

@MichaelHampton the downvotes are because the person didn't type the question in google first, which would have given them a link to wsus.

Michael Hampton

@Zoredache Oh, that hurts. resize2fs most definitely does not daemonize. Gawd only knows what state his filesystem is in.

r.tanner.f

@voretaq7 We were trying to steer him towards writing a script for it. That way when his script didn't work we could kick it over to Stack Overflow and let them have some fun with it.

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 LOLWUT

MikeyB

@MichaelHampton Probably because lmgtfy.com/?q=windows%20lan%20update%20service turns up WSUS as the first hit.

Michael Hampton

17:35

When I searched, I got that Server Fault question as the first result.

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 I'll happily trade my Exchange 2003 problems for it, yes.

@r.tanner.f I went to answer that one based on some tests I did, but it was all closed. :(

r.tanner.f

@HopelessN00b Didn't it crash the host or something?

WesleyDavid

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MikeyB

@MichaelHampton (actually, I agree, it is a good question, except it fails the laziness test).

Michael Hampton

@MikeyB I tried several different Google searches with various terms in them. Only yours returned WSUS directly in the first few results. I think it's entirely plausible that someone could have tried to search for this and become confused.

But since @ChrisS seems to recall he was acting like a jackass, I'll accept that. :)

voretaq7

17:46

@r.tanner.f seems fair!

HopelessN00b

@r.tanner.f Yeah, the guest, the host, the switch, pretty much everything it touched.

r.tanner.f

@HopelessN00b It took down the switch even?

This is why anything involving Microsoft and mail scares me.

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b I'd still love to see a full write-up of that. Maybe for serveritsyourfault.com :)

HopelessN00b

@r.tanner.f Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was trying to validate/lookup/store on Exchange every address as they were added to the contacts.

@MichaelHampton Would seem to be highly topical for a site with that name, wouldn't it? :)

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b I'm still trying to decide exactly what to do with the site.

HopelessN00b

17:54

Get it added as a migration option for some of the... "choicer" questions we get?

Michael Hampton

The image will probably have to be cut, though. Somebody suggested it isn't covered under the same CC license as the content.

@HopelessN00b Actually I was thinking of using the SE API to auto-import downvoted questions.

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton Need to put some logic around it so that it won't get every -1, lame question from here.

Michael Hampton

Start at -3?

Adrian

Nice. Jackass posts a homework question, I tell him that it's homework but give him some pointers, and then comes back two weeks later puts his own answer in and downvotes mine?

mornin' folks.

Iain

@MichaelHampton migrated in

Michael Hampton

17:57

@Adrian Let's see it.

@Iain Yeah, I could go for that.,

Adrian

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Q: iptables NAT configuration

Hello I am experiencing some issues with my iptables. Here's what I want to do: A(eth0)--------(eth0)B(eth2)---------------(eth2)C Brackets are interface names A,B and C are hosts. Now I would like to forward port number 80 of host C so that It would be accessed via host A. host A is 192.16...

iptables nat

And if that's a shitty answer, feel free to downvote it too.

I don't think I'm going to get real work done today. Spending all day pressing the 'Decline' button on my phone from recruiters. Amazon just posted a huge batch of jobs, I think.

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite So you take a quick flight back to Chicago for the weekends?

@Adrian Wow, feeling like entering the Amazon fray for two years for some Resume bling?

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