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17:00
Can't buy a house that I can afford because the requirements are crazy.
@ScottPack Ah, I'll give you that. Kinda like Bowling Green where my great-aunt taught.
My credit and wife's are in the 730-range...
740 is the new "good" credit.
@ScottPack Wow, sounds exciting. And stream of the event?
@ewwhite Once the underwriters settle down after the most recent shake-up and get used to the new regulations, it will get easier. Closings in Seattle used to be as short as 10 days. In 2010 they were 10 weeks just to close. It's down to 5 now.
@Adrian I haven't bought since 2006, so I guess this is the new normal.
17:02
Hell, in 2010 there were buyers who were buying up foreclosed houses with 50% cash and the financing was still 50/50 on going through.
@Adrian Could be. I don't know much about BG. Athens was pretty much settled for the purpose of housing a university.
@WesleyDavid Probably. Our local pbs affiliate is woub. I wouldn't be surprised if they stream something.
ooh a /review - reopen queueueueue and mostly they are staying closed - good
When my Ex and I split, we were lucky enough that a local business owner had a fully-paid house to offer as collateral, cashflow from a large dry-cleaning business, and 40% cash, so it only took 5-6 weeks.
@Iain yeah they mentioned that was coming
@ScottPack I remember it being a really nice town. Haven't been back in 25 years or so since she passed away.
17:05
@Adrian Lucky.
@Adrian Do you find it strange to talk about things at that scale?
@Adrian It recently occurred to me that I was listening to a song off a CD I had owned for 20 years. That felt...weird.
OK, am I the only one who is viscerally offended when I hear the candidates referred to as "Mr. Obama" and "Mr. Romney"?
@voretaq7 Yes.
@ewwhite Follow-up question: Why does this not bother anyone else?
@voretaq7 It's worse when you watch the fucking news
They're just "Obama" and "Romney"
Not "The President" and "Gov. romney"
17:11
If the president wanted to help the economy, he'd make mandatory computer proficiency classes and tests, with refusal and failure punishable by death.
I do not understand how these people I support have managed to operate businesses that sustain people's salaries without knowing the difference between closing and minimizing a window.
Someone's mortgage is going to be paid by a business operating with a person as CEO that cannot get the hang of a right mouse click.
And that CEO is in his 40s. And went to college at a state university.
@WesleyDavid Get used to it. It's only going to get worse.
ಠ_ಠ
You'd be shocked at the number of young social workers we see who can't figure out the old Gnome interface on Ubuntu. People that are in their TWENTIES.
@Adrian And form the Silicon Forest region no less.
@WesleyDavid Yeah. The "people person" group here is so viciously anti-technology that it's almost a religious crusade.
17:16
@MDMarra I can put up with that to a greater extent
"Mr." seems like you're going out of your way to deny them the title of office
Hm
I view that as people that don't know better trying to be polite
(it's also how I refer to them when not using their given names of "Oh Bummer" and "R-Money")
Like calling a judge "sir" instead of "your honor"
Lawyers tell you not to, but they at least understand that you're trying to be polite if you slip
@voretaq7 The appropriate address is Mr. President and has been since Washington.
@Adrian direct personal address
third person address is either The President (referring to the office), or President Smith (referring to the person)
17:18
@voretaq7 Yes.
@voretaq7 Baracket Obama and Dubya-Ditto?
I just had a moment that's probably made at least half of you lol- I just had to type man date into a shell.
@WesleyDavid Bra-Ket Obama? Might get the math nerd vote... and if he buys the lingere he may get the cross-dressing math nerd vote..
@Basil "Well if you're into that sort of thing the guy three cubes down has been spending his lunch hour browsing the Corbin Fisher collection..."
@voretaq7 LOLbama and Flip Romney?
@Basil I had a very uptight padawan once upon a time. All the implicit homo-phobo-jokes around the man command used to make him absolutely crazy. I'm usually far too chill to go there, but it was tough to resist murmuring the man query I was running to set him off.
17:23
Hey this is fun.
@Adrian ... ooh ohh can I borrow it?
I like traumatizing uptight straight people.
it's fun!
@voretaq7 He left. He's actually trying to get me in at the state hospital, which I may consider going to. They're using some pretty sweet network equipment up there, but it also means my scripting and regular sysadmin skills would likely atrophy as well. Not too sure about that.
@voretaq7 I don't think he's actually straight. I'm pretty sure he's Bi and in denial about it.
He'll sort it out once he grows up.
@Adrian bonus: Hot sex!
Maybe a conservative upbringing- those kids can be messed up
(actually I tend to inflict the most trauma on the closet cases)
@Basil Good Catholic Altar Boy.
17:32
@Basil Or at least growing up in a conservative part of the forest here. He'll actually be a pretty awesome guy to hang out with in a few years. Very artsy, but very young still.
But I have that opinion mostly because I'm OLD.
@Adrian ugh, is he a hipster?
because that rules out the hot sex part and leaves me with "Reduce it to tears as quickly as possible so it goes AWAY."
@voretaq7 No. Hates them with a passion. He's an Emo in his current larval phase, though.
What's the difference?
@r.tanner.f Different style of partying. And wearing black instead of too-tight pants and blue-collar gingham shirts with John Deere caps.
@voretaq7 His art is pretty fscking wild though. Funerary masks of welded steel and pieces of broken mirror. Stuff like that.
emos are worse than hipsters
17:37
@voretaq7 I can deal with Emos. They leave me the fsck alone since they don't live anywhere but near the artsy and club districts.
Or their parent's basements, of course.
Can someone tell me in what way this is off-topic?
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Q: TCP Port "Permissions"?

Andrew J. BrehmI am trying to open a port which is not in use according to netstat. When I configure IIS to run a Web site on the port, I get the following error: --------------------------- Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager --------------------------- The process cannot access the file because...

fml
+6 in 5 minutes on this damn tape question and I'm capped already
@MDMarra that's not complaining, that's bragging. :)
Meeeeh, I WANT ALL MY REPS
@MDMarra all your rep are belong to cap.
Meh
Whatever, just call me John Skeetskeetskeet.
17:46
@MDMarra not until you earn 200 rep/day without doing anything.
there's standards for the Skeet award sir.
OH HAI COMMZ PPL
@MDMarra I got my first repcap today. It made me happy.
@ScottPack Oh nice. I didn't realize you were on dildo.stackexchange.com
@MDMarra it's sextoys.stackexchange.com ThankYouVeryMuch -- we strive for inclusive sites!
@MDMarra We all have our expertises.
@voretaq7 Well, only after they merged the dildo.se, buttplug.se, and beads.se proposals on Area51.
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17:58
@ScottPack you forgot nippleclamps.SE
Has anyone ever had any problems with CloudFront being slower than S3?
and they kicked all the "1001 uses for a power sander" people off DIY
@voretaq7 I didn't think that got tacked on until later?
And, moreover, does anyone have another StackExchange that I could ask this question on?
@ScottPack well that depends on where you like to start...
SF is probably the best place - but I've never seen such behavior.
Granted I ignore the existence of the cloud generally...
Then you're probably not the right person for this question =/
I need to find a new SE to ask this question.
Perhaps, I'll use WebApps. Afterall, AWS is a WebApp.
Hey, weren't you banned from chat?
18:00
Is that on topic per their faq?
I'm still wrongly banned from SF.
No, i wasn't banned from Chat.
@voretaq7 I suppose we should probably explain to @Holocryptic what Friends is since it probably predates him.
Troll elsewhere.
The mistake of banning me wasn't that drastic.
@EvanCarroll Somehow I don't think it fits within the scope defined by the WebApps FAQ
@ScottPack Worst Show Evar.
18:01
Why not?
@voretaq7 You're a terrible person.
@voretaq7 I don't understand why it wouldn't.
@voretaq7 This was the fine gentleman the trolled long and hard and was permabanned a while ago
Best to just ignore
@EvanCarroll Read their FAQ
I'm not permabanned.
My ban expires in Feb.
18:01
@MDMarra He's playing nice for the moment, so I too shall play nice
Yea, I always played nice.
I never insulted anyone.
Slippery slope ;)
@MDMarra I like the original better.
@MDMarra not really. I'mma go get lunch. If there's still a landslide in here when I return I'll break out the shotgun
me too
18:02
That's ok, no hard feelings.
@voretaq7 "Mittens" is popular in my circle.
@MikeyB hmmmm
Anyone, no one has seen CloudFront run slower than S3?
I'd like to post this question on SF too
Someone should mirror it.
You'll probably get lots of EXP.
Didn't @chopper3 leave a backdoor at the hospital? See: Malware Is 'Rampant' On Medical Devices In Hospitals
@ewwhite shh!
stoppit! I'm having fun with this new gamma knife game!
18:07
Let's upvote @MDMarra, since he's rep-capped.
@EvanCarroll Go ask on reddit or something perhaps?
Do you think it is a good question?
Never used either so can't help. Reddit has a r/sysadmin subreddit and they might have cloud-related ones too.
Perhaps I could get a single-question unban that way this valuable contribution isn't lost to StackExchange?
oh dear when did that ban run out ?
18:15
@EvanCarroll Do I think "Has anyone seen CloudFront run slower than S3?" is a good question? -- No. It's a yes/no polling question. For it to be a good question for Server Fault it would have to include lots more detail
<cartman>God DAMMIT markdown!</cartman>
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@voretaq7 the question has a lot more detail see the link: forums.aws.amazon.com/message.jspa?messageID=390833#390833
So how the hell does the reopen queue work? One would think that with a Q needing 5 reopen votes, that queue wouldn't go away simply because the question got 5 don't reopen votes.
@Adrian It should work the same as other /review queues
@voretaq7 Ok. So that effectively indicates that the remaining 11 questions that I had left in the queue last night were thus all reopened?
Which worries me a little, as maybe 2 of the 13 I saw were worthy of reopening.
18:30
@Adrian or got enough "Do Not Reopen" votes to be booted from the queue
@voretaq7 And there's the rub. That doesn't make sense to me because not giving a 'do not reopen' is simply a vote for status quo ante that shouldn't increment their state.
they only get into the queue if someone casts a reopen vote elsewhere
Then again, I've never really understood the close voting mechanism around here either.
@Adrian I imagine they've rigged it like the VTC queue: 5 "Do not close" votes (or one mod DNC) boots the question
@voretaq7 Hmm. That entire system's a bit of an afterthought isn't it.
18:33
@Adrian Its supposed to act as an automatic janitor of sorts
Hee. I feel better now. Devs asked me to rescue them from an out-of-sync environment problem they created. Told them that I don't have responsibility for their executation environment and told them the ball is in their court on those servers that they won't allow me to manage.
@Adrian the do not reopen/close? Sort of, but it's better than close/reopen being the only way to get items out of the queue of course. The stats for DNC/etc aren't shown (far as I can tell) to discourage bandwagoning ("Oh, someone said this isn't reopen worth, sure sure")
@BenBrocka Sure. I can see that. But I could also see a hazard of flapping on questions that one groups thinks should be OT for the site and another faction thinks are On-Topic. 5 to close, then 5 to reopen, then 5 to close.
@BenBrocka That said, Dev time is expensive. So it might not be worth building a better system anyway until the problem actually shows up.
@Adrian that's why you can only vote to reopen/close once on any given post
it takes a good number of people to actually get in a close/reopen war
@BenBrocka Ok. If that's not ever happened even on SO, I suppose it's unlikely to.
18:40
IT has happened on SO, but mostly on the super popular, pretty darn off topic questions (which SO had a lot of in the early days)
@BenBrocka And thank you for taking the time to pop on down here and talk with me about it. I'm rather passionate about fair and elegant systems.
@Adrian I do too :P there's a reason I'm a mod on UX
@BenBrocka I wasn't actually aware of UX.SE. Will have to check that out.
@Adrian I prefer random and arbitrary systems
18:41
@voretaq7 Yes, we know. =)
Peers at the yearling batch... I have been here that long?
@voretaq7 that's a rolls dice stupid opinion
Esp. considering that I only just posted my first question.
@Adrian too many aren't
@BenBrocka :bumps table:
18:48
So I hear most large companies used fixed storage sizes even when they move to thin provisioning. Does anyone know why? Once you're no longer tied to a specific disk, but rather a pool of disks, what's the benefit of having fixed volume sizes?
@Basil the relentless march of standardization?
@voretaq7 it's not a march. We're already using them for old architectural reasons, which will soon no longer exist
@Basil what goes around ...
the question I asked one of the architects is why we should keep doing it this way, and he gave me the non-answer of "well, I've seen other large shops doing it that way"
@Basil Aren't there performance issues regarding thin provisioning vs. thick?
18:51
@Adrian yes, thin provisioned volumes are way faster.
because it's a technology tied to wide striping
@Basil Interesting. I was under the impression that thin provisioning reduced the I/O needs at VM build time but increased I/O load in production because the disk images need to be extended as they grow.
@Adrian I imagine that's less of a burden on enterprise SANs than it is on JBODs
@Adrian I'm not talking about on the hosts, I'm talking about on the storage. The VMWare hosts will be using eager thick provisioning
@Basil Ah. And now we've definitely hit the limit of my understanding of storage.
I'm comparing taking 15 14+2 raids and carving a bunch of volumes from them to taking a pool of 15 14+2 raids and carving "virtual" volumes from them, each of which touch all the spindles in all the raids
18:54
@Basil Got a linky I can go read instead of badgering you with questions?
@Basil I can't think of a reason to force thick provisioning on the SAN. I can see standard allocation sizes for the hosts, but how it gets stuffed onto the SAN doesn't matter - whatever's most efficient.
@Adrian Badger away :) The only links I was provided were paywalled behind the support site...
@Basil I may be back in a bit. I need to sit & think & digest this concept.
@voretaq7 We're going thin- that's already been decided. That said, among the list of things we no longer have to do to manage our storage (like name volumes based on their size and never increase the size of a volume), the concept of arbitrary volume sizes is conspicuously (to me) absent
@Adrian I found a wikibon link- wikibon.org/wiki/v/Thin_provisioning
Only thin here.
18:56
@vCole Do you have fixed volume sizes for LUNs?
or do you see it a lot?
@Basil Thank you. Good stuff to know since I'll most likely be working with real storage at the next $job.
@Basil depends
@vCole woop woop
We have such a diverse environment in the lab
@Adrian let me know if you ever have any head-scratchers :)
18:57
There's some around, mostly for testing purposes.
emulating customer environments for testing,etc
@vCole For production systems, I've been told that even once they migrate to thin technology with pools (not unlike raid-DP aggregates), people tend to stick with their sizing standards, and I don't know why
@Basil I would assume it's because that's just what they're used to.
I don't see any real benefit tbh.
@vCole If that's the case, that's a terrible reason. It is a restriction that comes with built in inefficiencies
I can't see any reason either...
People are dumb, and hate change.
That's most likely the reason, or not fully understanding the technology as well.
@vCole Being conservative about the wrong risks...
19:01
@Basil Mostly makes very good sense. Wondering how the thin prov. would impact database performance though if the data is spread out in chunks across the platters.
Though I suppose that could be mitigated on busy databases if you're using SSD caching.
I know the nimblestorage stuff keep copies of "interesting" stuff on the SSDs.
@Adrian the concepts of thin provisioning, auto-tiering, and wide striping are all somewhat related. Multiple databases will have statistically better performance if they're all spread across the same pool of disks compared to what they'd get is they were each allocated a fraction of that pool for their own use.
@Basil So gains from having more spindles beats the loss from seek time?
That's wide striping. Thin provisioning is something that you can more safely do when you're working with a large pool because if you overprovision, no single process is likely to generate so many new pages that you'll bust your overallocation limit
@Adrian More spindles means lower seek time, usually
well, the pure seek time per disk is the same, so any IO will have the same average latency, but you will be able to do more IOs with that low latency before you start pushing the latency up higher than if you had less spindles
@Basil Ok. That makes sense. I'm not used to thinking in terms of the performance of dozens of spindles.
the way performance normally works is that you have one latency when you're doing a small amount of reads, and another, much higher latency when you're requesting random reads faster than your backend disk can provide them
19:07
Just spent ~2 hours reading AnandTech's iPhone 5 review...
so little to do here @ work
@Adrian SSD tiering (not on the server, but on the storage) is more generally called auto tiering, and each vendor has their own secret recipe that is better than their competitors'. In essence, the chunks of your data that are highly utilized will drift toward higher performance disk, and the chunks that are low utilization will drift toward the low performance disk, however the volume address and name don't change.
EMC and Netapp have something in place that uses SSD both as the highest tier for permanent storage, as well as sort of a layer two cache, which will promote a chunk from, for example, 7200 RPM nearline disk straight to SSD as soon as it's accessed once, thereby preventing something like a quarterly report from going more slowly than it would have before you turned on auto-tiering
@Basil Ok. And since that's secret sauce stuff, I wouldn't have to worry about that. I definitely remember 5 years ago having to attend meetings with our customer where consultants were wrangling with internal storage staff about tier assignments and spindle allocation.
@Adrian That still happens, but the technology has advanced faster than the demands of DBAs.
When they come to me telling me how many spindles they need, I know I'm in for a long meeting :\
@Basil Heh. Praise be for small miracles. =)
I've worn a groove down the middle of my whiteboard ;)
19:10
Tech has also advanced faster than the DBAs can comprehend too, I wager.
it goes both ways- I just found out that the version of oracle we're running goes out of its way to only ever write sequentially
I always assumed that our databases were 80% random read and 20% random write
My primary customer had an awful lot of people who literally had no marketable skills other than managing Oracle tablespaces. Explaining information from our upstream OEM vendor was a royal PITA.
I'm lucky to have some very smart DBAs to deal with.
@Basil It's heartening to know that they actually exist. =)
some.
From what I can tell, they're all way better paid than me :\
19:13
love my co-workers, but server-side PHP and SQL is about as good as they get.
Is @basil dropping some knowledge?
@ewwhite Dropping it on me too. Which is truly appreciated. Too much stuff I don't have any exposure to.
@ewwhite out of my jacket pocket, and stepping all over it whilst fumbling around
@ewwhite Did you have a question about scsi queue depth in the middle of the night the other day?
cause that's rock'n'roll.
I never think about scsi queues after work :P
@Basil I did. LSI controller. Shitty performance. Had to drop the block device's request queue from 128 to 32 to make things work at a decent speed.
19:19
@ewwhite 32 is a good number unless you have a good reason to go higher.
Linux defaults to 128
LSI told me to bump it to 975
for physical drives, I suppose?
hmm..
975 was a disaster
latency is measured from the time it enters the queue till the time it's accepted by the OS. Extraordinarily long queue lengths combined with saturated disk is a recipe for abysmal latency
Even with onboard BBWC cache?
19:21
@ewwhite it's more for reads than writes
cache helps with writes, mostly
I ran A/B tests on this Supermicro server and my standard HP systems..
and the issues I encountered were that I could generate load on the HP's... and kill my test... and the disk I/O stopped.
@AlexanderJanssen wat
dude...
on the SuperMicro/LSI setup, I/O would continue for 30s-150s
19:22
2 sec, gonna make some graph porn
@Basil this was a graph i plotted with the official netapp formula for calculating latencies. their formula was a little wrong though. It ain't that bad.
I should charge Netapp for correcting their formula
@Basil after correcting the formula, it was like this: yalla.ynfonatic.de/media/volume_latency-log-zoom.png
oh. wait.
Netapp is a bit of an odd duck when it comes to latency. You can get some pretty bad numbers if you haven't tuned it according to best practices
@Basil tinyurl.com/ch9cqlk - that's the correct reading.
still not good, but not off by a factor of 300
Probably because of all the red tape and political BS involved in actually changing anything in a large company.

I've had days where I straight up said "fuck it, let the system fail so there will be less paperwork to fill out to fix it."
(Netapp forgot to include the time between to measurements - the deltas have to be divided by that value)
forums.cacti.net/… - that gives the full information about the whole "netapp api gives shit readings" thing.
19:28
Not sure which diamond declined my NAA on this
-1
A: What's FQDN of a WORKGROUP pc?

DarkoJesus, that is if you don't have a DNS suffix added. Eg for Windows PC you can check by: ipconfig /all Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PCNAME Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : local FQDN = Hostname + Primary DNS Suffix So in this case: PCNAME.local

@AlexanderJanssen What type of access? block or file?
When he says "Jesus," to start that, he's addressing the other answerer there.
I read it and thought it was a comment
@MDMarra It's a real answer, even if it is a bad one.
@Basil oh, it's file - NFS to be precise. The issues are sorted out now.
@HopelessN00b Yeah. He edited in the first 5m
It used to just say "Jesus, that is if you don't have a DNS suffix added."
19:30
@Basil it was a combination of not enough cache along with not spindles.
@AlexanderJanssen Ah. I was lucky enough to be given a new n3240 to test with a PAM card, and I thought there was something wrong with my load generator, because I couldn't get over 1.5ms latency on random reads
turns out, it was that the entirety of my test data was loaded into the PAM card
which is SSD
@Basil haha, i made the same mistake last year when i was making load+stress testing :)
@AlexanderJanssen Even once I controlled for that, I couldn't force it above 6ms without deliberately misaligning a VM
but my NFS numbers consistently blow. Probably the same issue you found,
@Basil well, i do media-caching with it - and just by transparently telling my proxy to vomit of all those youtube-videos to the FAS made my testcase a tad more valid.
that said, my AIX guys say it's faster than the way they used to do it (mounting a filesystem on the SAN, and using it as an NFS share)
@AlexanderJanssen I like netapp- we'll be using them soon for all our remote offices
19:34
i had more problem with utilizing the port-channel correctly. their loadbalancing algorithm to ports/ips is TOTALLY bizarre!
a netapp engineer gave me the source code to a program which calculates which of the lines from the portchannel will be utilized if a certain source ip and port will be used
@AlexanderJanssen I had that issue too- we had error 78s from UNIX every time they did a large report
insane crap
part of the issue was that our network had the wrong LACP settings
fuck LACP
they're doin it wrong
but even when we fixed that, we needed to modify something in the AIX system settings and reboot
19:35
only use mode-active
don't start with me about networking doing it wrong. We still have 10Mb on certain sites
There's not one 10Gb connection in the company
man, i deploy my netapps at POPs, we're churning out 20 git/s and transparently serve cached youtube vids - about 50 proxy nodes and all retrieve videos from the netapp. certainly i'm interested in utilizing the portchannel correctly...
not even for storage, which could really use them
s/git/gbit
yeah, you're doing the type of storage where an understanding of networking really comes in handy.
19:38
...yeah, especiallly when the proxy nodes don't have a dedicated storage lan. i need to reuse an existing vlan, which is set to a friggin MTU of 1500
Here, the important stuff is kept off the ancient creaky IP network and done exclusively on FC
but $customer is reluctant to gimme a new vlan id and another network.
also, the proxy nodes don't have a spare ethernet interface
hence: no jumbo frames.
sigh
@Basil oh, i'd like to churn out my videos via FC. but then again, it'd be overkill for my solaris clients.
also, that'd involve a cluster FS
@AlexanderJanssen You'd be limited by the same front-end
or backend
FC is faster than disk, but not faster than the network usually
I'm waiting for the day when Bytemobile/Citrix ports their proxy software to Linux. It's on their roadmap. For years now....
if i'm lucky I'll get a pre-release by the end of 2013
@Basil Wanna swap? We still use T1's at most sites. But we upgraded to full T1's recently, from fractional T1's.
19:47
@HopelessN00b You misunderstand, my friend. We have 10Mb lans at some sites.
as in, the backup server uses a 10Mb link to get its data from the database server.
@HopelessN00b can I trade in my X.25 for your T1? Although my customer offers 20 gbit for the subscribers, they still use a wee old 64 kbit for remote maintenance on some sites.
The WAN is actually not that bad. We own more fiber than anyone but ISPs
@Basil I just last week pulled a 24 port, 10 mbit HUB out of our server room.
@Basil OUCH!
@Basil so it's not uplinks, but LAN?
@HopelessN00b yeah, that's the kind of crap we have at our remote sites
19:49
Home Office site, baby.
Here. Take a beer.
cheers
Got anything stronger? Like heroin?
@AlexanderJanssen it's rare, but yes. Most of our switches are at least 10/100 now, and we have GB backup networks at more than three quarters of our yards
@HopelessN00b could offer a non-stop nyan-cat loop :)
Think I'll hold out for some drugs, but thanks. :p
19:51
Today I was testing WAP1-transport again... It reminded me how good mobile networks are working nowadays. As long as someone doesn't try to send an MMS.
even though no one uses WAP anymore, MMS is still transported via WAP
MMS is da ev1l
when my colleague was trying to retriece an MMS from the MMS-Center today with that 1996 Sharp mobile handset, he got this errormessage in German: lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8nRukg1335Q/UH6eqrAqH2I/AAAAAAAABHY/… - It basically say, literally translated: "win you fail again"
rertrieve even
Ugh. So, McAfee sucks sweaty donkey dick.
I want to ask someone to replicate a bug in the chat.SE interface. Is there a good room for discussing that?
(means: the handset wasn't able to retrieve the content from the MMSC - turned out, the URL being sent from the PushProxyGateway was crap, also the secondary PDP context was not configured correctly on the handset9
@HopelessN00b What problem are you having? I had to spend a lot of time bending it to my will at $lastjob
@MDMarra Had to move the database from one remote SQL server to another, followed the McAfee KB, tested the connection, and upon rebooting the ePO server, getting a database error that prevents me from logging in... which prevents me from say, checking the database configs trhough the web interface.
19:59
I've had that problem before as well
Were you able to fix it short of reinstalling or restoring from backup?

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