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Somebody lose millions of credit card numbers again?
@MichaelHampton "Brazzers." --ewwhite 3 minutes ago
Oh god, that's going to be a huge nightmare.
On an only slightly related note... don't click any links in Skype.
I was at -129 rep earlier in the day. I finished with -131. Job well done!
@MichaelHampton HA! The malware goes after your Brazzers account as well! Bases, covered.
WTF do malware authors want with Brazzers and Youporn accounts?
Love this "helpful" bit: "Don’t click on any links sent to you via Skype or any other instant messaging service."
@MichaelHampton FREE FUCKING PORN
What else?
00:05
That's what BitTorrent is for.
I just want everyone to know that I had sufficient maturity and restraint to delete the "your mom" joke I just typed out.
@MichaelHampton Torrent porn? Do people need to do that?
@jscott When the collection is 81GB, yes, it helps a lot
@jscott You're really not helping my attempt at avoiding "your mom" jokes. =|
@MichaelHampton Ahhhhh, so you're a "collector". Noted.
00:07
I ... uh ... need test data for the new SAN
@WesleyDavid Go on, it'll make me laugh.
@jscott So does your mom.
@MichaelHampton Gotcha, IOPs, load testing, that sort of thing.
@WesleyDavid I honestly lol'd, even though I knew what was coming...
I'm a putz. I don't have any computers in my personal possession that can read, edit or convert docx properly. sigh
@Adrian Google docs
Upload, covert to google doc, export as..
Unless you have some ill VBA going on in that doc (or really sweet formatting!) should be good.
00:12
No dice. Already tried that. Doesn't render properly.
Ah sweet formatting
Isn't there an Sub/Open/Libre/who-ever-is-still-fighting-about-this/ office that reads it?
Yeah. Need to fix some misspellings the recruiter left in the last resume draft.
@Adrian >_<
It's the formatting. Those things aren't 100%
How do I edit a PDF?
00:14
Yeah, I think she was in a hurry. She was getting married the weekend before
Adobe or pdfedit in Ubuntu
I kid, I kid.
Yeah, I grabbed an Ubuntu liveCD to run pdfedit and try fixing it tonight.
Our problem is users seem to think AcrobatPro/PDF is a wordprocessor, or PageMaker.
The PDF copy is old, but I can backtrack through the edits. Which will also get rid of the document metadata information that she left in there from her last customer
Has anyone ever used Microsoft's XPS format?
@Adrian Oh, I lol'd!
00:18
Spot how many things are completely wrong about this:
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Q: Very complex networking requirement: reverse internet connection sharing through virtual wifi router

user1123170As a contractor, I have 2 laptops: one is provided by the client (client-laptop) and one is my personal/contractor laptop ("personal-laptop"). Client-laptop has a docking station and a hard-wired LAN connection. I want to share the connection from client-laptop with personal-laptop so that person...

@jscott I had someone send me an XPS once. It took me almost 15 minutes to figure out how to open it.
@MichaelHampton Yeah, I've not seen one in the wild, save for a couple of docs from Microsoft's site.
@MichaelHampton That. Sounds. Painful.
I you run windows you might have a XPS reader installed.
MS recently pushed an important update for that reader, making it compatible with win8 oXPS format
Even for those who uninstalled the old 7's XPS reader.
Which annoyed me a lot.
@MichaelHampton I ran out of fingers while counting problems
00:38
@jscott remote desktop easy print uses it :|
@pauska Interesting have never used that. I don't use TS, with printing, and turn of printers for RDP.
it saves a TON of time when you have remote workers with local printers
01:10
heh, from the nexentastor community edition:
"Free for up to 18 TB of raw storage capacity"
"Production use is not allowed with Community edition. It is designed and intended to help people become familiar with the product or for hobbiest use."
18TB of raw disks in a hobbyist scenario? really?
Yes, really.
That's only, what, six 3TB drives?
Everyone should have a personal Nexentastor for their porn collection.
01:41
@pauska How can they limit your use of it when it's GPL? Or, at least portions of it are. Nexenta has never to my knowledge been completely FOSS friendly.
 
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03:16
The new CPanel....
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Q: Can I install Zimbra Open Source Edition besides a running Server that is managed by Syscp?

benschI have a debian sqeeze rootserver that is managed by syscp. Can I install Zimbra besides this? I don't need the full functionality of Zimbra running, only the calendar and contacts-support with CalDav.

03:47
And now I need another tumbler of Canadian Mist after seeing that.
04:23
@WesleyDavid Nice list there.
@MichaelHampton I'm a list maker. I've got a ton of lists in various OneNote notebooks that I need to puke out into a blog post so I can have other people help maintain it.
@MichaelHampton And TY. =)
 
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07:09
G'day
 
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08:33
I wish, zero sleep, pain's like a spear in my side, less groggy though
 
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11:06
morning
@Chopper3 they not giving you any prescription painkillers?
11:59
@WesleyDavid I guess the non-opensource portions are not allowed in any form of productional setting.
 
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13:50
dem americans are crazy
14:14
> Dude, I suggest you move to another Job - one that does not require you to deal with companies that publish their documentation on their products on their Website so you have to actually READ them. Maybe serving burrgers at McDonalds, though I think you may be mentally challenged by the cash Register. What the hell just stops you from reading the Website you Point us to here? And / or call them, email them, like you should?
I agree with the sentiments
@JourneymanGeek you about ?
I'd like to test something
which is?
can you go and @Iain and leave a message for me in a comment on an answer which I've not had anything to do with i.e. not my answer or not edited by me and which has not comments by me on it
14:35
ok
-5
Q: Installing software at large organisation

CJ7I have to give an MSI to a large organisation for it to install (presumably via GPO) on to some of their workstations that are running XP. I already know that my application is not allowed to write to the application folder. I realise it should be writing to the AppData folder. The organisat...

commented there, feel free to nuke
@JourneymanGeek I will later - I want to see if I get a notification
and ow. the spelling on tomtom's answer was horrific
What is that question even doing on SF?
14:53
lol
@MichaelHampton: I just picked a question right at the back of the unanswered queue
not had a notification yet
I read that and my first thought was, that belongs on SO
anyone any comments on the kindle fire range ?
@Iain: friend of mine has the original
he loves it
15:00
Never touched it. My first-gen Kindle is still going strong :)
I'm looking for something to replace my AAO netbook
@MichaelHampton I downloaded and had a play with vagrant earlier and came to the same conclusion as you - then went for a spin and forgot to answer that question
Don't even have VirtualBox anymore. All VMware here. (Or Linux-KVM...) Vagrant is clearly a tool by developers for developers developers developers.
@MichaelHampton yeah I had to download vbox too but it's all gone again now
Michael: Are those kindle based on eInkt screens? If not, how well can you read them outside?
@Chopper3 how's it going ?
15:08
@Hennes The "Kindle" has the e-ink screen. The "Kindle Fire" is a normal LCD
Ah. So I will avoid the fire.
Yeah, if you're mostly just reading stuff, the Kindle will rock your face off.
Well, I want to use it when I read outside.
So I want a eInkt based reader. Open firmware of rootable.
Allowing simple access to copy unencryped book to and from it.
NC? Not closed?
15:14
@Hennes the blurb says the new kindles have anti-glare laminate screens
@Hennes Not Constructive
No idea. I read it yesterday and thought the title was off, and that it was a weird question. I then left the computer for some coffee and ignored it
 
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Q: Use SSLProxyEngine to get around DropBox block

vy32An organization I know blocks dropbox access. I'd like to access dropbox at that organization. My idea is to set up a server running SSLProxyEngine, so that requests to my website are proxied to https://www.dropbox.com/. I tried adding this to my httpd.conf file: SSLProxyEngine on ProxyPass /dr...

Burn it
16:33
@Hennes I dunno, I saw the question but didn't downvote or vote-to-close.
@LucasKauffman yes, painkillered up to my eyes in fact but still no fun, got a drain in me that's rubbing against a nerve inside my armpit - fucking ouch
17:05
@Chopper3 that sucks :(
yes, yes it does, no sleep at all - so here's a tip for you. wisdom of a kind. don't get cancer ok, not cool at all as it turns out
@pauska On the Nexentastor thing, I just read a question on Super User from someone using 8x 3TB disks in a home setting. So obviously it's possible for even a hobbyist to exceed the 18TB limit.
@Chopper3 I will try not to, but I have a feeling it's not going to be my choice :p
Or, 640K ought to be enough for anybody.
@Hennes For current Kindles, you can pretty easily read any un-DRM'ed book. Use an ePub-mobi converter and copy the resulting file to the Kindle. Or use the mobi format if you got it in that format to begin with.
17:21
If you can, though, get the book (for the kindle) in its native (mobi) format. Such files have extensions .mobi, .prc or .azw (DRM-encumbered ones have .azw). The reason is that converting ebook formats often loses information.
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Q: Plausible deniability for phones

Matthew SmithI have sensitive data on my computers and phones. I use Trycrypt's plausible deniability system on my computers. When law enforcement/border patrol or my spouse asks for access I type in the password for the decoy system. I need this badly for my phone. Does anyone know how to install a plausible...

I dont know what to do with that one
18:17
@LucasKauffman I answered it?
@Iain That one's obviously an SO question
the PageRank thing I mean
indeed
I wonder if it will get rejected
Ha, it already got 3 answers on SO
I think one of them was deleted :P
Now I almost regret hanging around and watching that question. It's become clear just how many shit programmers there are out there.
18:46
Developers. Fuck.
me included I forgot PR can be 10 and just answered the OPs question
Something's really wrong if _I_ am a better programmer than 95% of Stack Overflow.
Fucking Markdown.
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I mean seriously, does nobody over there really understand that you have to maintain code six months or six years later?
Oh, taxes... I shouldn't have waited...
(riding on that filing extension...)
19:23
@MichaelHampton Yeah, by all means it's possible, but what kind of people store 18TB of non-pirate data in a home setting?
Don't ask me. I don't go into people's homes and ask them what's on their hard drives. :)
@MichaelHampton did the dhcp guy ask the wrong question ?
@Iain No, I just suspect that it's an end-user, and not a sysadmin
now that I've seen their comments
And their edit explicitly says they aren't the admin
@MichaelHampton I see that now
I'm this close to throwing up my hands and voting NARQ
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Q: Why OTR use MAC instead of Signature?

DoSin the Off-­the-­record(OTR) Why we used MAC instead of Signature like A-->B: gx, SigA(gx) and in third step A-->B: gx’, MACMK(gx’)

Burninate
19:40
@MichaelHampton look at their other question - is it a bot ?
@Iain I have no idea what it is.
deleted em both
Welcome to Server Fault, a site for IT professionals. We've tried to give you answers appropriate to system administrators, but your question now indicates that you are an end user. It will likely be closed for this reason. If you are interested in learning what your DHCP lease time is, you may wish to visit our sister site Super User. Before posting there (or here!) you should check the FAQ to learn what is on topic, and search to see if your question has been asked before. You should also clarify the question to specify your operating system, etc. — Michael Hampton 35 secs ago
I ran out of room in the comment...
If they HAD specified their OS, i would probably have just voted to migrate.
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A: Alternatives to Rackspace's Cloud Sites (not Cloud Servers)

Adam FisherYou might also check out my company: Octane Software. We can manage your web application's infrastructure for you. Just ask about the Octane Managed Cloud: http://www.octanesoftware.net.

Not sure if spam...
but pretty sure the question should be closed.
@MichaelHampton closed and deleted ~ the kind of shopping that is out of date now
It's one of those days, I think...
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Q: How to diagnose issue between mobo, RAID, and SSD cache drive?

gooberBackground This issue is happening on my custom-built desktop. Relevant specs: Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Utilizing Intel RST technology (application that uses unused SSD as cache) Processor: Intel core i7-2600k (not overclocked) HDDs: RAID1 of 2x Seagate Barracuda 1TB (ST31000524AS) (RAID...

This is a GREAT question... for Super User.
19:53
@MichaelHampton and now they have it
Good call I think
@DJPon3 I asked and they seemd quite keen
Yeah. It's a great question, as @michaelhampton says
Just not a question for us
my new mac is apparently in Berlin. As its supposed to be delivered to me tomorrow, this should be interesting
Inbound migrations from SO up to 22% rejected :)
@DJPon3 easy
# include_meme: SO_doesn't_migrate_crap.h
@Iain could be. It's quite interesting watching these things go all around the world with tracking.
20:05
we've rejected more from SO than the total of all other inbound migrations
doesn't surprise me. They really seem random over there. I suspect its just due to the high number of users they have in total. They might have the same percentage of bozos with high rep as any other site, but they have a much deeper well.
By percentage?
SO is indeed a very large barrel. Unfortunately, too many of their users are at the bottom of it.
Well the more time I spend over there the more I wonder how its possible to become a programmer despite never having used a computer.
Oh, today's developers have it easy. They just google for half an hour until they find some code that sort of works, and paste it in. They rarely do much actual thinking.
we've rejected 162 of 737 and total of all other inbouds is 155
20:12
The problem with this rejection system is that nobody gets feedback on it.
You're not wrong @MichaelHampton - I've done programmer interviews where the candidates have failed abjectly to complete certain test tasks that were set by me, based on my own (far from glorious) programming skills.
It's worring to be a senior sysadmin in a shop that needs good developers and realise that despite being a bit crap and very out of date at coding, you may actually be the best dev in the building right now.
@MichaelHampton yes
@DJPon3 Today's complaint arose mostly from this question (which was migrated from here).
Lovely. I like Mr Attitude there with the "who -1'd the correct answer"
Dunno, I +1'd the correct answer :)
20:19
I know its unavoidable sometimes, but my general thinking is that if the first answer I get to anything is Regex, then I probably need to think a bit more.
I'd like to know who +1'd serverfault.com/questions/438224/… after is was -3 and closed
There's a subtle but important difference between what someone asked for and what they really need. — Michael Hampton 2 hours ago
dunno but I -1'd it to keep it looking like -3
Agreed
I have no votes on that question.
visited 102 days, 98 consecutive
@MichaelHampton tomorrow your internet will break
20:22
@Iain I don't care. I can tether my phone. If THAT doesn't work I'll go to Starbucks.
yes?
@MichaelHampton What's up?
I'm quite sure this guy's doing something wrong but I'm not 100% sure what.
I want to tell him to decommission that thing.
@ewwhite First, I guess, is that Broadcom SATA controller thing what came with the system (or is an officially supported option)?
And second is, can he update the firmware from a third party source safely (or SHOULD he)?
Yeah, that's the page I was looking at.
20:59
@Iain What do you think of this suggested edit?
@MichaelHampton I think Anil forgot to log in - looks like he's adding info based on the answer ?
OK, I was trying to figure out why random person on the internet would be editing a question, as opposed to asking their own question.
OT serverfault.com/review/close/31131 the answer seems more like a programmery hack than a real fix ?
It's an issue with deploying the PHP app, so I think it should stay here. That said, it's a kind of crappy question.
It's also a crappy answer, and open_basedir is crappy. Crap all around.
@MichaelHampton (sadly) we don't have a crap,crap,crap,crapity crap close reason
21:11
The PHP feature is crap, and the web host he's using is crap.
I always thought open_basedir was something to be avoided
I guess I just have much higher standards these days.
Yeah, it is. That's why they marked it deprecated in 5.3 and removed it in 5.4
But maybe 3/4 of all the shared web hosting providers out there use it, because they're run by some guy who clicked a few buttons on cPanel and knows little about actually running a server.
@MichaelHampton closed TL then
@LucasKauffman Well, it's a small office printer...
and I've seen plenty of offices using consumer-grade routers, unfortunately.
You should not be using WPS at all. Ever. At least, not if you value the security of your wireless network. — Michael Hampton 1 min ago
@MichaelHampton sadly, one of the largest, Lunarpages, appears to be no better. Unencrypted passwords and asks for passwords over the phone when you call in.
I can't get 1TB SATA disks working on my 2005-era server!!!!
@ewwhite Why are you using a hunk of shit that homeless shelters are phasing out?
=)
That server belongs in a museum!
@ewwhite And it cost you 4 hours already at $125/hour, yes?
hmm?
I think Adrian was referring to the guy who asked the question.
Well, no, not really. Thought that you @ewwhite, was the guy baby-sitting the museum-grade hardware.
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Q: Is the more the better for PHP memory_limit?

4lvinIn PHP, i am oftenly facing memory limit problem. Especially with highly resource integrated systems like Drupal, etc. What i want to know here is: Is it good to have very high php memory limit like 2GB? Is there any major drawback? Edited: As a scenario, for example in Drupal, it NEEDS ...

Need a few more good VTCs. Not sure why rnxrx didn't VTC that one.
21:44
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Q: determinging dhcp lease period

ValAs I understand, it is responsibility of the client to send renew requests periodically. How long is this period? Can I receive this information once IP address is dynamically assigned do my interface? Does DHCP protocol provides me this information or I should ask it from the server administrator?

I don't want this closed anymore. Now I want the questioner burned at the stake for being such a complete ...developer.
If it's a -4 question and there's accepted answer with no upvotes, will the Friday night clean-out take care of it?
I've got one VTC left and want to make sure it gets used for something that really need it.
@Adrian no
damn. OK, off to VTC that putrescent pile of crap.
Congratz to @Ward for his shiny new Steward badge for Close Vote Review.
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Q: Couldn't start mysql service in linux

HaseenaIam trying to install one version of mysql in a LINUX machine. The system contain already another version of mysql installation. I prefer manual installation. Copy the exctracted tarball into a location and create symbolic link to that. I wish to install my mysql version without affecting already...

Yet another shit SO migration
Honestly, question migration is fundamentally broken and should be turned off.
21:59
@Adrian closed TL as sysadmins we wouldn't do that
Thank you Kind Sir.
 
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HAI
DIS IS YUM
I IZ GONNA REMOVE `init` AND `bash` OK?
KTHXBYE!
Markdown ruins another joke.
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I think somebody's running a script that just automatically stars anything that mentions markdown...
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@Adrian That guy with all the I/O wait is running a shared web hosting provider, according to his user profile. He needs to stop using cheap crappy low end disks.

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