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@MarkHenderson: singapore to UK. In my case, general immaturity/unreadyness/not having any idea what i was doing. And UK was somewhat closer to the person in question.
@MichaelHampton I have Siri. I can tweet about it while I'm fleeing for my life. Suck on that, fire marshall!!
Doing ok now, just got my eyes on the degree for now, then hopefully see if i can get my positively geriatric foot in the door for my first job (at 30 >_>)
@JourneymanGeek Having a job is more than being on payroll. You've been working a long, long time. =)
@WesleyDavid: the annoying thing is my past 5 years of experience is off the books
05:07
@JourneymanGeek Nothing is off the books as long as you have witnesses that don't have a verifiable criminal record. =P
@WesleyDavid: been running my dad's workplace's IT setup
It wasn't as neat as i'd liked, but for an assemblage of geriatric systems, It usually worked.
Hey, mods. What do you think of ?
@JourneymanGeek You're dad can vouch for your work, right?
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Q: Is memcached pre-installed with Xcode on OS X?

GeneQThe answer seems to be yes, according to Apple's documentation. To make sure I'm not hallucinating, I checked Apple's developer tools documentation. Yes, memcached is supported and documented by Apple: Apple Developer Library : memcached(1) Apparently, memcached is installed with Xcode since at...

That really got migrated?
@WesleyDavid: pretty much thats about it
But a payslip/CPF contribution would count for so much more ;p
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@JourneymanGeek Yeah, obviously I'm not sure what Singapore culture us like. I got my start in IT by volunteering. No pay and no employee status doesn't really mean anything. I got tons of experience, tons of responsibility, and was more hire-able as a result.
@WesleyDavid: we're very.. asian
...and then there's @Ward so that pretty much sums it up.
paper/officialness seems to count for a lot
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that makes sense. In that case, move to Australia? That's not too far. You can hang with @Mark.
Which isn't fun when you learnt everything off random wonderful people on the net
@WesleyDavid: Well, there's a tiny thing there. First job needs to be here, and I'm staying in singapore for the natural life of my dog.
05:14
@ShaneMadden It really got migrated. So, why are we using Mac OS X as a server?
@JourneymanGeek Gotcha.
Actually, the problem with that question isn't the OS, its that no one other than apple knows the real reason ;p
@MichaelHampton "Does my development tool install the software that it's installing?"
@ShaneMadden Yeah, the title doesn't seem to match his actual question. That can be improved rather than closed.
I've made a pass at fixing his title and giving him half an answer.
05:39
It's always interesting to throw together three or four product requirements and then find that there's some heretofore unknown void of products that combine what you thought was a reasonable set of requirements.
I'm needing a webcam for a project:
1. WiFi
2. 720p resolution
^ Those two alone are a irritatingly small pool of products, but then I add:
3. Pan and tilt would be nice (but not required).
All three of those things shoot me out of the water so far.
720p bandwidth is still negligible across most WLANs, so I'm not sure what the deal is.
And the security camera market is laughable.
480i is still getting people all hot and bothered, so that crowd is easily impressed.
CSI would be disappoint.
@WesleyDavid: I hate to suggest it, but a cellphone might do most of that
@JourneymanGeek You know, that's sick and twisted... but it just might work. =P
Well, I assumed that the "wifi" aspect of it would include a web based admin page for the camera, so... let me re-do the list of requirements...
@WesleyDavid: relatively small, modern ones have a minimum of 5MP
@WesleyDavid GoPro HD with a Arduino controlling a motor.
tricky thing here is software
05:46
1. WiFi (and a web administration page is assumed)
2. 720p resolution
3. Pan/Tilt
@JeffFerland The new Dropcam thingy is awesome, but it's so cloudified that you can't divorce it from the whole service. I'd buy a dozen of those things if I could have my way with them.
@JeffFerland Holy cow that thing is legit
Ever used one?
Developers, please clean up after your failed experiments.
rm -rf would be sufficient.
05:50
@JeffFerland Weeee! Mud!
actually, that looks.. rather plausible
@rnxrx Wow, very nice, thank you. I thought I had trawled through enough D-link stuff.
@JourneymanGeek That's pretty cool actually.
@WesleyDavid np - oddly enough it turned up on Amazon.. I've put together a pretty comprehensive security system at home but haven't gotten to doing video yet. You are absolutely right that the security guys are pretty weak.
@JeffFerland The GoPro would be a nice high end product for this, but since it's intended as a camera, so far it seems like there's way to take it's video and send it live to something else... but I'm still sifting the docs
@WesleyDavid Look for backpacks. The newer HD2 has an option to attach a wifi module and stream
05:55
@JeffFerland Ohhh, okay. I saw some wifi addon that looked right up my alley, but hadn't yet found info on output capabilities.
@rnxrx that D-link is really looking nice so far
Here come some tag wikis.
@JeffFerland gopro.com/… Streaming! Now to find out what precisely that means.
RTSP or GTFO
Hmmm... more and more I'm nervous about their version of streaming. Looks like they're catering to the sports crowd that just wants to stream it live and would gladly use some kind of hosted service.
@WesleyDavid Well, yes.
@JeffFerland And I'm fine with that, as long as I can use the base parts rather than being locked into a black box.
@JourneymanGeek motrr.com/store.html
I fucking hate it when they say "Coming Summer 2012". Fuck you summer has already been and gone. In February. So fuck you, why can't I buy it?
06:10
@JeffFerland Next, I want you to do this:
@MarkHenderson All communication is only meaningful when interpreted from an American viewpoint.
@WesleyDavid yeah ok so when is Summer 2012?
Isn't that now for you?
@MarkHenderson Until sometime in September I think.
June to September.
@WesleyDavid So they've got 2 more days to get that shit onto market or they're baldfaced liars
Fall equinox in the Northern Hemi is Sept 22.
So 24 more days, hoser!
Or, wait... 25?
NUMBERS ARE HARD!
06:24
@WesleyDavid Numbers are hard, but letters are even harder
Every time I see how much work goes into making computers understand Unicode I wonder in amazement that they don't just explode every time we press a button
Man, you can find some crazy stuff on alibaba.com
And they fool us very-high-level programmers into believing that string manipulation is easy. When it's just not.
@WesleyDavid Ughh just be careful. Friend of mine ordered some 4Gb USB sticks from there when 4Gb was huge. Turned out they were 512Mb sticks that reported 4Gb and started overwriting themselves when you got to the last byte of the disk
He sold like 200 of them on eBay and had to refund everyone
"Unit per month capacity: 10,000. Price per unit: $1 - $2.50. Payment terms: MoneyGram, Western Union, livestock, or lightly used womenfolk"
@MarkHenderson Nice.
The amount of effort it takes to be a cheat is often more effort than it would take to make a comparable living being honest.
Notable exceptions include politics, Wall Street, and DevOps.
Geeze @MichaelHampton - you've been busy on the tag wikis! Kudos to you!
@MarkHenderson Still going, too.
06:28
I really have no idea why I included DevOps in that list, but apparently you can do anything with DevOps so I'm sticking with it.
@MarkHenderson Did you like the one for ? :)
DevOps ate my baby!
@MichaelHampton Hoenstly, I didnt read them closely. I just skimmed them when I saw your name :p
@MarkHenderson You should read that one a bit closer. :)
I don't think I've ever read a tag wiki.
06:29
Fuck me, I can't believe I approved that
In fact, WTF are tag wikis again?
Something something words something something tag something synopsis something.
@WesleyDavid Click on the tag, then "learn more"
@MarkHenderson Way to much effort.
@MichaelHampton Ok so it got relevant at the end. I vote "keep"
I can even be bothered to put the extra 'o' on too.
06:30
@MarkHenderson Well, I couldn't make the WHOLE thing a joke :)
@WesleyDavid They also show up when you hover over a tag. is that too much effort?
@MarkHenderson Okay, that might be acceptable.
@MichaelHampton Going for "research assistant"? (that must be a new badge, I haven't seen it before)
06:34
@MarkHenderson motrr.com/store.html Were you raging against this relative measurement of time?
@WesleyDavid yes
@MarkHenderson rage
Anyway it's way past home time for me. 6 minutes in fact. I never work this much overtime (hah thats a lie, I do 5-10 hours of overtime each week)
Cya
I'd buy the shit out of that if it could hold more than just iPhones
@MarkHenderson Later. mew
G'day
06:40
@Iain Wait, @Mark leaves... you show up. It's like Clark Kent and Superman... wait... IAIN IS REALLY MARK'S WELL-BEHAVED ALTERNATE PERSONALITY!!!
Everything suddenly makes sense now!
I was late - I was reading up on last nights DevOPS debacle
I've suggested a few tag synonyms too.
07:24
Oh come on, you aren't even reading those. :P
@MichaelHampton Well that's one way to rack up 60 rep...
LOL, yeah, I suppose. I'm mainly after the badge though.
Though there are a few where I'm actually putting some thought into it. Like .
Thanks for the clickfest
PING: transmit failed. General failure.
Oh, I know you have your own stats for going through those :)
Speaking of which, anybody got a screenshot of a Server 2012 BSOD?
2K12 can bsod?
I though bsod disappeared with 2K8?
07:27
Or does it just look the same as windows 8?
@Anarko_Bizounours The BSOD is forever, man.
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FFS. I can ping 192.168.56.101. I added it as my default gw. I can't ping anything else. Windows won't even send the damned packet.
Well, I was mislead by ms news saying that bsod wasn't implemented anymore
@JeffFerland did you configured windows to allow answer?
Hm, I'm just gonna have to crash a Windows server box and see what it does.
@Anarko_Bizounours It never transmits it. There is no packet leaving Windows.
@JeffFerland -___- I hate morning my brain fail me too often. Maybe some windows firewall rule maybe.
07:31
Oh, it works if I do it through the interface on the interface (that's ambiguous), but no via route add. Fuck you M$
@MichaelHampton scan back a bit (week or so) Zypher posted one
@Iain But making Windows crash is more fun than reading the chat logs from last week.
And will make 50.
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Wait, what?
07:53
Alright, my desktop is running backtrack and using an external WiFi unit that's plugged into a 24dbi antenna... that find America's favorite ISP, Linksys.
BackTrack is also attached to a host-only interface through virtualbox.
It provides routing and Masquerade
That is exported over my desktop's internal wifi card
I'm tired.
@JeffFerland Come on, this is supposed to be fun.
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Morning y'all
@MichaelHampton It'd be more fun if OS X and Windows decided to speak the same language for WPA2 on adhoc networks
@JeffFerland You know how it is. Microsoft never implemented a standard without screwing it up.
@MichaelHampton You know how it is. Microsoft never implemented a standard without "extending" it.
08:01
That's what I said!
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Has anyone ever used the Office Customization tool to add a feature (Well, another program - OneNote) to an existing installation? I've deployed loads of fresh installs, but never changed an existing one
Oh never mind, that was scarily easy
 
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Q: Linux compilers for C/C++ on AMD "Bulldozer" CPUs like the Interlagos

jstarekI am looking for a Linux compiler for C/C++ code that supports AMDs new "Bulldozer" architecture and produces efficient binaries for the Interlagos series Opterons. This seems to be a bit difficult because of the peculiarities of the Bulldozer microarchitecture. While AMD has a whitepaper with ...

Really? is this something we should be worrying about?
09:42
good day
Help @KennyRasschaert out:
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A: How do you make it obvious you are on a production system?

Kenny RasschaertThe red prompt is a good idea, which I also use. Another trick is to put a large ASCII-art warning in the /etc/motd file. Having something like this greet you when you log in should get your attention: _______ _ _ _____ _____ _____ _____ |__ __| | | |_ _|/ ____| |_ _...

He's so close to 100 upvotes on his A :)
@MichaelHampton he's whingeing on meta about it being closed now
10:17
Morning all.
Anyone making use of Folder redirection+offline files for roaming users? (And if so, do you trust it?)
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@SmallClanger Yes, all the time and yes
By all the time, I mean it's what I always roll out for customers unless they have some specific ideas otherwise.
10:34
@dan Considering it for our laptop fleet. Something almost like a race memory is giving me a serious sense of forboding.
I was probably improperly touched by Windows NT as a child and I've suppressed it.
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@SmallClanger Why for laptops? That's almost a bad example as you'd generally use folder redirection to redirect things back to the network
@dan isn't that what offline files is for? Lets people leave the office and still automates the server sync when they're back in.
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@SmallClanger Oh yeah, you can do that. I tend to avoid offline files because some people don't get it, but that's not Offline Files' fault
11:32
Whoever mentioned yesterday that minesweeper is upgraded in Win7: FUCK YOU. This is more addictive than drugs
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I don't have it :(
12:03
@SmallClanger Yes, we use both for our mobile users... It's pretty darn good.
We only redirect the user's homedir (My Documents) for now.... Would really like to get working towards network profiles.
The sync center in Windows 7 works much better than XP ever could.
online.wsj.com/article/… "The communication becomes so deep that you don't even use words anymore," says Kent Beck, a programmer at Facebook and a strong advocate of pairing. "You just grunt and point." isn't that how all programmers speak? grunt and nod?
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@jscott Yes, this is true. My laptop has synced for 18 months with no issues whatsoever. Doubt I'd see that on XP
@lsiunsuex Don't forget the snorting and the awkward laugh
Wait, is this programmers or SysAdmins now. I forget
@Dan: hand them a screwdriver. the programmer will hurt himself faster
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@JourneymanGeek Ugh no, the last thing I want is dribble on my screwdriver
@Dan: naw, you have spares for that
you arn't lending someone the nice electric screwdriver
(if you don't have one, get one. Its bloody ace for everything)
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12:12
@JourneymanGeek Haha, good point. Though this does imply that I actually use a screwdriver at work more than twice a year
12:47
hellooo
im back
13:01
morning
morning nerds
13:17
@Dan: Oh, i've needed it dozens of times this week, Not for computers tho
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Q: Why does the iPhone calling screen have letters under the numbers?

Senthil SivanathThe iPhone dialer has letters below the numbers. Why did Apple include them on this screen? In other phones it is used for T9 keyboard or contact search.

haha. haha. ha.
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@lsiunsuex To be entirely fair, I've never seen anyone use letters for phone numbers in the UK
letters are still used quite often here in the USA
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Actually, that's not true - I think some shitty premium rate reverse charge thingy does it
Oh yeah, I've seen it all over the place on the net
mostly by low rent lawyers
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13:23
Haha yes, it's not classy
1-800-BUY-MYHP
re: not classy
@lsiunsuex Very handy to remember some things: 1-800-IBM-SERV
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Why the FUCK is software which is meant to be rolled out to hundreds of stations STILL using .ini files for customisations. How the crap am I meant to roll out a single change to the settings without affecting a users other settings. Oh wait, I can't.
write a c# app that opens the ini file, makes the change, saves it and self destructs - email it to them (or in the login script) - and have them run it. done and done
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@lsiunsuex The thought crossed my mind, but I just can't be arsed
13:27
Email question for y'all.
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [12.x.x.2] blocked using Blocklist 1, mail
from IP banned; To request removal from this list please forward this message to [email protected]
Client just moved their mail to Microsoft 365.
@ewwhite whats the email domain name
And a Linux server in the network needs to send mail to those users. This used to be Linux -> SMARTHOST or relay to local Exchange server.
Now it's all goofy...
There's a limited number of inbound/outbound mail in office 365
are you hitting that?
@Dan Educational or LOB software?
It's buried sort of deep in the ToS for each package
13:30
So there's a Sonicwall firewall in the mix that's not NAT'ing properly. The server is 12.x.x.4, but everything is going out as 12.x.x.2.
@ewwhite only asked to run a blacklist lookup on it - maybe with the move, they got on someone's shit list
(I see that a lot with Sonicwall setups... like people don't configure NAT the right way)
and then, this is an AT&T IP block. That is, AT&T doesn't provide reverse PTR records.
unless they mange your forward DNS.
so there's no reverse PTR on this IP range... That's why they're actually being blocked.
Not on a blacklist of any sort, according to mxtoolbox.
Oh come on... you guys are supposed to know all of this stuff :)
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@ChrisS Educational
I actually found another ADMIN.INI file which lets me override certain things, so they get half a point for that at least. But still, what's wrong with the registry and a nice admx template - it's what it's there for!
13:48
Sonicwall?
@MDMarra DOes Office 365 allow smarthost access?
Hewwo!
@Dan ADMX files are a beast to author, or you have to buy expensive tools. I've never found a cheap or free tool that makes it even reasonably convenient.
But the older ADM files aren't bad to author, even with notepad, and there's free utilities that make it tolerable.
@PauskaSock haven't seen you in a while.
I've been... away. Meditating in a Buddhist temple, centering myself.
the moderator team has become concerned with your account:
1. You have provided few answers. You do not [pay it forward](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward) by occasionally trying to help your peers get answers to their questions, too.
2. There appears to be no increase in quality (your effort expended to research your questions and make them good, clear, and useful) over time between your oldest questions and your newest questions.
This is a troubling pattern, and is becoming abusive to our community.
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@ChrisS This is true and yes, I too do .adm files only
14:07
@ChrisS "This user has not asked any questions". :(
@ewwhite No idea. Once we saw the sender restrictions we stopped reading
@MDMarra what are the restrictions?
Certain amount of people allowed in the to: field per day
what was the #
A couple hundred
but if you have multiple people in the to: it all counts
14:09
@PauskaSock It's a canned warning, I'm too lazy to do more than copy-n-paste.
probably fine for smb, not something we wanted to move the university to
Say ppl is there a way to change the time IIS take to apply config change?
You can restart it ;)
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iisreset = fix all the problems
@MDMarra Hmmm.. is that a daily limit?
14:16
Yeah
This was also like 2 years ago we looked at it
@ChrisS I'm a little embarrassed, I've forgotten my SX login. Remember the password though ;(
when it was still switching the branding from office live to office365
The ToS might have changed since then
But that was a show stopper for us
@PauskaSock stackexchange.com/about/contact Mods can't see login info.
@ChrisS Woe! And I had found a great question about socks to answer. Startingly, before you even asked. :(
@MDMarra & @Dan ty, just wanted to do it without doing that ;)
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Q: What's behind an oline broadcast tv?

Syd BarrettI'm trying to understand how to build a website for a TV with broadcast section on the website. Is there any tutorial about how to build or setup a server (linux - php) capable to support this function? Thanks in advance

awkward :D
I just got out of a social meeting (a going away party for an HP tech whose been on our account for 16 years). The HP sales rep that just lost a high 7 digit storage deal invited himself to it.
At one point, he was telling stories about his old clients, and he told us about one guy that was, as he put it, "a little weird"- he would make sure he knew what kind of car his sales reps drove, reasoning that if it was too nice, he was paying too much.
Never one to shy away from awkward, I put on the biggest shit-eating grin I could muster and proclaimed "He's right."
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@Basil It's true and not a new concept - I've heard stories (Dunno how true, but the legend proves your point) of sales people buying second cars just so they don't have to turn up and try to spin a big profit while the client stares at their Ferrari on the car park!
a friend of mine is 30 years old. is a pharm rep - drives his company car to see's doctors and keeps a porsche carrera in the garage. just the way it is
@Basil My dad's a salesman and definitely picks his cars to be "Nice enough that people will never shy away from riding in his car" and "cheap enough that nobody thinks he makes too much".
I was in that side of the business for years...
14:43
now with the shitty economy, their all struggling a bit, but pharm companies blow crazy money on stuff
heard stories from my uncle (pharm rep also) they flew the entire company out to a conference in vegas just to yell at them.
LOTS of industries are spending crazy money at the moment
Anyone got a WSUS server to hand they can check something on quickly?
@growse o/
Just trying to figure out whether or not SQL Server 2012 should be showing up in the Product listing
As a component of WSUS?
14:53
I checked mine, and it includes recent things like Windows 8, Skype etc. so the list is being updated. But no SQL 2012
@SmallClanger no, in the Products & Classifications window
Ah, that. thought you meant the backend server. :)
Not listed in mine. Just 2000/2005/2008/2008 R2 and the feature pack.
Hmmm. And yet, there have been SQL 2012 cumulative updates
so you'd have thought they'd have been published to WSUS
That does seem odd. Our exchange update rollups come through SUS, so I can't see why they wouldn't do that for SQL
Though I only run a couple of express intances for small service back-ends.
Weirdness. Well, at least it's not just my WSUS set up
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Would you believe there is no official Microsoft way to programmatically configure the default sound device
15:08
@Dan Yes. I would.
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@ChrisS Frigging annoying
There are a few C++ workarounds but I don't have the C++ knowledge to adapt them :(
I need opinions! I want to ask a canonical "Value of Certification" question; where it basically asks "Should professionals and employers value certifications, are there caveats, who's certifications, how can I convince my employer they should value certs, do particular industries value certs more than others?" and unequivocally says not to list/name any specific certs. That's borderline off-topic per the FAQ; do you think it should be? I'm looking to replace an existing Can.Q that sucks....
Or maybe it belongs on Workplace.SE? Or another site (there's too darn many)?
@ChrisS There's no right answer, so it's a bad candidate for a canonical question in my opinion
@ChrisS isn't the answer to most of that yes/no/maybe or similar ?
@Basil That's why I ripped the current Q out of the list... My version is better, but yeah, I still think it sucks.
@Iain I think those three could be the answer to just about any question. >=[
15:21
@ChrisS "How can I estimate the value of a certification for my field?"… hmm…
@ChrisS which doesn't have a definitive anser
@Dan Nothing in WMI?
The more I think about it, the more I think it's just plain off topic and too subjective for SF.
oy... it's been a day and it's not even 1/4 over
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@MikeyB Definitely nothing that you can write to, but I can't find anything to read either
15:25
and my iPhone has gone walkabout. When I find that Siri bitch I'mma break her legs.
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Q: SAS vs SATA+SSD cache for webserver+database server

NinWe're building a new webserver and are in doubt over the configuration. Should we go for SAS 15k disks or SATA 10k with a separate SSD cache disk? Usage will be normal LAMP.

I hate everyone
@MDMarra me too.
And I have to go back to Farmingdale tonight to retrieve my stupid wandering phone
grumble grumble argle bargle.
@voretaq7 What were you doing out there?
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Q: Get list of audio devices and select one using c#

SwatiHi I am creating a desktop based application in windows using C#. I have to show list of all available audio & video devices in 2 different combo boxes. Selecting any device from combo box will set that particular device as the default one I am using WMI. Code to get list of available audi...

Holy crap! FusionIO is not fooling around when it comes to shipping their new cards:
I just saw a woman with a stroler, instead of having a child in it she had a Yorkshire terrier...
15:39
@LucasKauffman their legs wear down quickly
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Brilliant - I now have a C# app that uses unmanaged code to enumerate the devices and compare with the named list. When it matches the name, it gets the device ID and passes it to an unmanaged C++ program to swap the deviceid.

Thanks a fucking bunch, MS.
@ChrisS flight lesson
@LucasKauffman Things like that make me want to punch people. Women like that are usually why Yorkshire terriers are such nasty little dogs.
according to "Where the fuck is that stupid bitch Siri?" (Find my iphone) my phone is apparently at or around my tiedown location
15:41
@MikeyB That's actually the definition of fooling around. Spend 100$ on packing your crap to look like you're in a movie, get thousands of dollars in increased profits as gullible sysadmins subconsciously choose you over your competitor because it makes them feel cool.
@Basil I'm just gobsmacked it doesn't come with a set of handcuffs so you can cuff them to your wrist when you carry them around.
A plastic case with a bit of foam can't be that much more expensive than cardboard and bubble wrap.
@ChrisS It's no more secure either.
@voretaq7 So it's in the plane?
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@ChrisS probably, or on the tarmac :P
@voretaq7 HTC provides a Backup and Location service for their phones, so mine's all signed up and whatnot. Well went to see how accurate it would be right now, and SURPRISE! They've discontinued the service without notifying me.
i dont understand the apple image
@lsiunsuex Never seen finding nemo?

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