Did I mention how much I love power-cycling my cable box because of glitching video/audio? Why am I paying for this again?

Good to know it runs some brand of Cisco OCAP shitware.

lol

Well they show the Cisco logo, quite prominently, during POST (I assume) and it takes forever to boot. So I blame them :)

@lsiunsuex: I wouldn't be suprised if someone hacks a perma-desktop mode into it. I also realised a lot of the hate from game companies is cause MS is pushing their own app store.

@JourneymanGeek i'm sure someone will; but corporate types (most of us) shouldn't have to put in a hack to do something normal

i mean really, did they not think of the impact of this on corporate networks? how short sighted / narrrow minded i think

@lsiunsuex They probably considered the fact that a lot of large corps skip every 2nd version of Windows

They've just gone from XP to 7, so they will probably skip 8

Oh boy, we're not even considering 8... Out of 3900+ stations, we're down to about 40ish XP clients remaining.

even os 9 changed over to os x it wasent that dramatic. visually, it was still a window system. this is going from a car to a space ship. its a completely different animal on the top

OS X was a pretty big change.

are all it people so analitic other than me? yes, i know os x was a big change :) but visually, it was still a windowed system.

classic-mode regardless, a lot of shit didn't work in X

not like os 9 was command line based and os x was metro

@lsiunsuex Metro is also a Windowed system. Granted, they run fullscreen by default... :)

actually, metro reminds me of windows 3.11 ;p

@JourneymanGeek The .11 gets you TCP/IP, which is fundamental in modern OSes.

@lsiunsuex: I note i had to talk a few people through setting up 7 with start bar labels for app

@jscott: click on little boxes to open software ;p

@JourneymanGeek It's all clicking!

as opposed to the menu driven model of 95 onwards

lol

my point is. those of us that know how to use a computer - yeah, fine. i'll get ust to metro. i have some really dumb users though that don't even know how to create a shortcut of a file share from computer to the desktop. wait till they see metro. i'll be getitng called all day

Not if you use metro right ;p

You TYPE

MOAR TYPEING

metro is more like os x locked in full screen view painted over with pastels and mono tones

@lsiunsuex Don't stress it... By that point, everyone will be doing BYOD, and they'll know their D, and that shit will just work with your Cloud.

lol

@jscott: Its sad that tech-policy is driven by idiots ;p

well we are passing out laptops now to exec's like their fucking candy. by that time. yeah, they may as well bring in their own desktops

In the interest of full disclosure, I, too, am an idiot.

@lsiunsuex: I ran a small network with a handful of systems and no centralised control

i'm an asshole. i get told it everyday :)

even then, i vaguely discouraged BYOD ;p

Eventually, these people who can't figure out computers will retire, right?

(and heck this was in effect an extention of my home lan ;p)

Please say yes

Asshole and idiot are not mutually exclusive! Ask any of my coworkers.

@MarkHenderson: more likely the other way around ;p

My Mum said that by 2015 she wants to retire from school teaching, because her 5-year-olds know how to use Wikipedia and the internet

@jscott: I just consider the current fad for centralising everything offsite to be... strange ;p

@MarkHenderson Yes, they will retire, to be replaced by new ones.

By the time these wikipedia using 5-year-olds reach saturation point, she's out

@MarkHenderson: Or they'll all end up being people unable to use the resources on hand effectively

yeah, an employee asks a programmer sitting right next to me to unlock her windows account. when asked why she couldn't ask me directly, i was told "people are afraid of you, your unapproachable" - yeah, that about sums it up

@JourneymanGeek strange/dangerous tomato/tomatoe

@jscott I hope not. There's not many technically inept people being bred these days, and if they are, they are likely to move into industries where that doesn't matter

@jscott: Oh, I consider everything dangerous

And by being bred, I literally mean little kids. By the time todays 5-year-olds are old enough to get a job in an office, they will make up the majority of the work force I hope

@MarkHenderson Ummm, have you seen facebook or youtube comments? These are the same people.

@jscott Ahh, but they know how to use them!

Plus, cmon, the shit you did when you were a teenager would shame you as an adult

They know how to click.

i need to leave this conversation. i have very strong opinions about fucking morons being allowed to breed in the wild. it dilutes the population to much. BUT. the world will always need garbage collectors so theres a need i guess.

@MarkHenderson Agreed. :)

@MarkHenderson: There's a big difference between being able to use a phone or computer superficially, and actually attaining some degree of competence in it

@jscott WHICH IS A 1000% INCREASE IN TECEHNICAL CAPABILITY OVER A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY

lol

Point. My mom has trouble doubleclicking, cause she's afraid the computer will blow up

My wife tried to teach her mother how to use a computer. She almost killed herself in frustration.

Same reason she can't drive

@JourneymanGeek Not double click, just click with two fingers!

But her mum works in a kitchen, so she doesn't need to know how to use a computer

@jscott: two fingers? What manner of witchcraft are you talking about? ;p

Anyway point being in 15 years we'll all be complaining "These fucking users, they all think they know how to use a computer and wonder why they need me"

You get [mostly] five in a bundle.

And I'd prefer that over being inept

@MarkHenderson: I doubt it

More likely that computers will become a black box and appliencefied and the skills needed to actually troubleshoot them when shit happens will be lost

@MarkHenderson learn how to program before its to late; will always need programmers until skynet goes online

@lsiunsuex I can program. I prefer systems administration

there u go then :)

In fact I spend probably 50% of my time programming these days

(admittedly I am grouchy cause i'm a hardware enthusiast, and part of me is worried the DIY box will die out)

I'm not a full time sysadmin. I spread myself between sysadmin, product manager and developer

@JourneymanGeek i dont think DIY boxes will die; just maybe not so many options

@lsiunsuex I dunno. I mean an iMac is just a laptop with a 27" monitor

is there really a need for 100 different video cards on the market at a given time? how many different ways can you build a f'ing psu. way way way to many options

And at the rate we're going I suspect Apple might take over the world

@lsiunsuex Ahh, so you want everything standardised. Thats the great thing about standards - there's so many to choose from!

@lsiunsuex: Options are good

if you put any effort into building a diy box, its like drawing blueprints for a f'ing house. this part works with this part, this part doesn't. this one costs 20% more but gives feature x

as is competition, look at hard drives!

@lsiunsuex: half the fun

more importantly, if something breaks, I can just open it up, pop out the part and replace it

no - i dont want everything standard. i just think so many parts hurts the "culture"

can't do that with a laptop

@lsiunsuex It forces you to think about your options. I know I've had that sinking feeling after spending a months pay on a single thing, just to find out I didnt do my research and it's incompatible. You learn from that.

@lsiunsuex: oh, enthusiasts need that. I just want to build a reliable box I can use for the next 5 years ;p

@JourneymanGeek Then buy an iMac

(and a little more - current system just hit 5)

And spend 3 hours when you want to upgrade the hard drive

And accept the fact that you're stuck with whatever mobile graphics card they give you until you "upgrade" to a brand new one

i've built my share of towers. i'm just not into it anymore like i ust to be. i prefer laptops

@MarkHenderson: My current desktop has had a replacement PSU and video card so far.

@JourneymanGeek I'm like that. I tend to cycle through things. So graphics card first, then RAM, then new mobo and CPU

Repeat and rinse

@lsiunsuex: I have a thinkpad for portable use. I have a salvaged dell 530 on my desk, soon to be replaced by a core i7

@MarkHenderson: until recently I run systems till they fail ;p

Does anyone buy AMD any more?

I'm pondering going for a 1+1 model

after working 11 hours a day and another 5 on side work at night, when i come home, i want my shit to work. if a macbook pro costs me $2k - so be it.

lol

fuck AMD

for some reason when i actually build a box, AMD sucks ;p

I used to buy AMD back in the day, but since Intel kind of shat all over AMD in the late 2000's I've been with Intel ever since

when i don't they're hot shit.

@lsiunsuex: Building computers is relaxing for me

@lsiunsuex Thats exactly why I traded my wifes PC for an iMac. I just want that shit to work

@JourneymanGeek Relaxing until it won't boot

Or it makes a funny beeping noise

Or half your RAM plays hide and seek

Or your OS won't install

Or it bluescreens

@MarkHenderson: thats fun

Yeah, I remember that once I used to enjoy building PCs too. Not any more :p

and almost never happens to me

THOUGH... there was the dell

I used to love planning out how I was going to assign my DMAs and IRQs

And I'd go and disable COM2 so i could free up IRQ3

or the fucking cpu fan wire got loose from the zip tie or whatever and is now grinding against the fan and u gatta shut the shit down, open it up, re tie it and get back to work. no.

@lsiunsuex Goooood I hate that

@MarkHenderson I've got AMD in my server, workstation, and likely my next workstation (current one is showing its age). But my next one will likely be AMD only because of the integrated graphics CPUs/APUs.

now THIS is a fun bug

(and yes, technically this is a store bought system, but still ;p)

@ChrisS There's a bunch of i5s and i7s with integrated graphics now, aren't they?

Although I like the idea of 8 cores per socket. Except Intel now offer 10 cores per socket with HT

@MarkHenderson: Almost all of the consumer intel chips and boards support it now

@JourneymanGeek Hah, time to replace the BIOS

@MarkHenderson Yeah, Intel's lousy graphics... Intel should have bought/merged someone with a decent graphics chipset when it could.

@MarkHenderson: actually it wasn't the bios, had the same issue with the windows and cli linux installers

@ChrisS: actually they've gotten a lot better.

@JourneymanGeek Ahh, buffer on the graphics card

they're almost usable for gaming

@MarkHenderson: bingo. I just yanked out the cheap sucker, and used the cheaper sucker on the motherboard

@JourneymanGeek Compared to the latest ATI and nVidia chipsets? I think Intel is still comparing themselves to Via's S3 graphics.

Ohh yeah and I also remember hunting through my box of crap trying to find another 64k of VMRAM to install in my ISA graphics card so I could get 1024x768 ;)

@ChrisS: more like low end ATI and nVidia now. S3 is a whole different level of suck

@ChrisS Haha true. I cringe every time I see "Intel Integrated Graphics" on a desktop

I'm likely to use mine for a spare screen and quicksync

Intel sunk metric craptonnes of resources into Larabee and it never worked right... Still doesn't work the way they intended.

I knew of the developers, and the project was mismanaged from top to bottom. Intel is lucky the outside world doesn't know how bad that was, the world would question their ability to produce x86 cores....

@ChrisS: didn't Larabee end up with knights bridge and ferry?

even the new shit. i had plans to build a hackintosh with 4 displays and a shit ton of ram. for what now? i can get a macbook pro retina that'll drive 3 monitors and 16gb ram and be done with it - and i can take it with me to starbucks

@ChrisS Yeah biggest mistake ever made in the history of the IT universe is the design of the USB port. How many people here manage to plug a USB device in the right way up, every time?

@ChrisS: they did licence the power VR video processors, which was a bust

Intel has had quite a few major flops over the last 10 years... If AMD didn't blow it so bad they'd have a real chance of dethroning Intel.

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. Knights Bridge is what they could get to work from Larabee.

@ChrisS My biggest memory of AMD was heat and power consumption

And I had a few AMD systems. I had dual Athlon MPs followed by two Dual Opteron workstations

@MarkHenderson Which they've fixed; but now they're way behind on the IPC (instuctions per clock cycle)

@jscott EXACTLY

lol

don't you guys look for the seam?

@JourneymanGeek IBM's Power architecture is a complete bust for most purposes... just like Sparc.

@JourneymanGeek Sure, but often USB ports are upside down in the comptuer itself

Don't think I haven't mark my USB cabled with a Sharpie.

@MarkHenderson My server and workstation are both dual Opterons.

@ChrisS: practically there's only 2 architectures worth considering at the moment IMO

though ARM is a bit crazy with how common it is without anyone noticing

@ChrisS I remember searching high and low for an opteron board that supported SLI. Eventually found one, cost me $900, was a Tyan, and I had to have it replaced twice. With a 2 month wait between each replacement. Obviously that's not AMDs fault, but when decent multi-core desktop processors hit the market, I dropped that shit faster than a hollywood marriage

MIPS is still crazy popular in embedded devices.

@ChrisS: thought arm was a little more common though

@MarkHenderson I used to buy only Tyan, but I haven't cared for their boards for a while now (lacking the features I want more than the price problem)

@JourneymanGeek In user devices, definitely. Cell phones, set top boxes, and all that jazz.

Many SOHO routers are MIPS powered though; lots of industrial control; car electronics...

Another one that's oddly popular as a management CPU embedded in other chips (DSPs and other ASICs) is the Intel 8051.

hm they reused the name i think

big fan of asus motherboards

their usually on the edge of whats new

@lsiunsuex: They also make pretty solid hardware

i've used their video cards - their nice. enermax for the psu. corseair for ram - wd for hd

I've had pretty good luck with motherboards in general. I can only think of one that I really had "problems" with

I think most of my ram at the moment is kingston ;p

I've only recently stopped using the cheapest PSUs i could get (well, they usually die in about 4-5 years cause of dust)

last one i built for a photographer. if it wasn't for windows 7 shitting itself on the raid 1 hard drives, it would of been a perfect score

enermax or corseair psu's with the modular cables - great psu's - i try to get the gold or silver line for clients (money pending) - quiet - easy to install and wire. their solid

I've been using Crucial or OCZ memory for a while now. Both have pretty good RMA processes and the ram lives up to specs.

@JourneymanGeek They all die after a few years, clear or filthy...

@ChrisS I've got a PSU still trooping from 2007 era

worth every penny

@ChrisS: oh, most of my heatsinks look black and fluffy after 3-4 years, and I can't blow out the insides of a PSU

@JoelESalas The one in my workstation is still clicking along; 6 years and counting... But all the others I've had, don't last.

@JourneymanGeek I don't smoke.

neither do i ;p

@ChrisS My dad is an electrical engineer, he recommended a PSU brand I'd never even heard of. Best $150 I ever spent

I live next to a busy port, about a dozen lanes of high way....

USED to have a railway freight yard

@JourneymanGeek and a chicken farm? For maximum airborne particle

naw ;p

@JoelESalas I've heard that story from someone else... Not the dad part, but the noname being the best.

@ChrisS Just looked it up, it was PC Power and Cooling

@MikeyB Ha ha; you're graphics card sucks at 3D

I have to say, the integrated graphics on the Intel procs is pretty good. I need to get a video card, still :) I put in the GeForce 5700 from my old PC and it did worse than the one integrated on the CPU.

@MikeyB: Well, its a good backup, and you can use it for extra monitors ;p

Tried to put in a GTX 580 and my power supply said HAHAHAHAHA.

really need to finish remodeling the 2nd floor - when i gutted the spare bedroom a month ago i took out the electrical to the bathroom with the intention of running a new line - never finished that. not exactly easy shaving in front of a mirror with a desk lamp on the sink counter :)

@MikeyB: the 5xxx series/fx series was notoriously horrid ;p

I just got carpet in my basement today. I looks fabulous

shag? burber ?

pic or it didnt happen :)

@JourneymanGeek I think I'm going to sell my paintball marker to pay for some new hardware.

@MikeyB: I've been saving about 300 bucks a month (which is pretty much everything i get 'paid' at the moment) towards the current build ;p

I should finally have enough cash next month for my next upgrade ;p

support the economy - put it on credit and pay it off over the next 3 years :)

lol

@lsiunsuex: Saving up is half the fun. I'm asian ;p

^^ What the fuck is wrong with some people?

What would prompt you to even ask such a question?

people are stupid

@MarkHenderson If you have a blowtorch to use on your tongue, why not use it on the spiders?

cause spider webs don't ignite when on fire - they just shrivil up and decay (i've tried)

@JoelESalas This is a very good question

fwiw I'd take the spiders. You can brush off the spiders, but you can't brush off your shame

i'd have to think about it for a few min - hate spiders

burn the spiders, pay the homeless man to clear the webs

DUH

take the road less traveled and go a different way ?

@JourneymanGeek I got very lucky and ended up with a i7-2600K and 8GB memory for $90. Bought a mobo and was handed a sweet SSD.

Yeah well you know what I hate more than spiders? Licking a homeless mans balls. If it weren't a homeless man, well, then there's something to consider

thing is choices need not be binary.

come'on - haven't you heard the stories about homeless people being taken out to lunch, person buying claims to have forgotten their money and homeless dude breaks out a stack of 20's? not all homeless people are jobless unhygenic animals

I see a fork in the road, and decide i want to bushwack and make my own damned path.

@lsiunsuex I also read a story by Stephen King about a vietnam vet who made a shitload of money pretending to be a homeless beggar, who would just hide his money under his soap box so it looked like he was always broke, and at christmas time could clear 5 grand a day

But you know what it was? Just a story.

haha

There was also a reported story by a tabloid news station here about an entire family who would go begging during the day, then hop in their car and drive back to suburbia to live in their regular house. But that turned out to be a witch hunt

(as if having it reported by tabloid media wasn't enough of a sign)

damned bitcoin miners ;p

@JourneymanGeek Made two more of these today :)

@JourneymanGeek I still don't understand bitcoin

It's somehow equivalent to real money? But what can you do with it?

@MikeyB Those don't belong to you personally though.

@MarkHenderson: honestly, i think itsa fad ;p

@MikeyB: hwo the hell does that get cooled?

@ChrisS Yeah, I wish. I wouldn't need to heat my house in the winter if they did.

@JourneymanGeek That case can actually push enough air to cool the 2000W of power consumed. Crazy, eh?

@JourneymanGeek Law enforcement, actually.

o0

@JourneymanGeek And how much did that hardware cost? How many coins do you have to bitmine to even get your purchase price back?

and what's the power distribution thing?

@MarkHenderson Essentially, it's a currency unbacked by gold.

@MarkHenderson: I personally don't believe in that. Its effectively a lottery where you pay in processing power thats not used productively

DOES think a processing power backed currency sounds cool, but not that way.

@JourneymanGeek It's usually not airflow that's the problem; it's usually the conductivity of the radiator, it usually can't push heat into the air efficiently enough to cool.

@JourneymanGeek I'd rather donate that many GPUs to something wortwhile, like worldcommunitygrid or something

@MikeyB: I am interegued by that crazyass device ;p

@MarkHenderson: Precisely

or even if some company said 'we'd pay you a cent for X amount of work' it seems plausible

@JourneymanGeek It's ridiculous how much processing power you can get out of a single system nowadays. Especially when you use non-general processors.

@JourneymanGeek Mechanical Turk bitcoin mining is probably not the way to go.

@ChrisS: which is why i said cooled ;p

@MikeyB: oh hell yes.

especially for embarassingly parallel tasks

would guess if its for LEO, it would be useful in breaking passwords ;p

@JourneymanGeek Most of what's under those cool looking covers is gigantic heat sinks. ;D

@ewwhite I'd consider FreeBSD a mostly drop-in replacement for linux, yes.

ohai again

@JourneymanGeek That's it exactly. We sold tens of those for that purpose.

@ChrisS: packed tighter than wet gremlins in a box.

@voretaq7 For generic Internet/Network infrastructure applications (web, db, router, etc) yep.

@ChrisS yeah, not for desktop use though

I use FreeBSD for my workstation... My Gnome 2.24 is showing it's age compared to other desktop environments.

I'd put it up for SciComp too honestly

I used to use FreeBSD as a workstation, but it' not polished enough -- I demand a lot from my workstations and so far no free/open source system can match MacOS.

which pisses me off...

Gnome was generally only a little behind until they wandered off into the grass with 3.x

@voretaq7 I'm toying with the notion of putting it onto my next home NAS/DNS/etc. server

@ChrisS: There's always.. what was it called

mate?

Mac is betta!

Except for HFS+

lol

How did we ever watch the Olympics before OTA HD?

@JourneymanGeek yah hfs sux

sadly enough is currently a windows guy

@JourneymanGeek Mint?

@MikeyB that's a good way to get familiar

@MikeyB: ya, but other people use their gnome fork as well

same way there's a KDE 3.x fork floating around for the ubuntu

@ChrisS gnome 3 is better than unity...

which it the equivalent of saying "I'd rather have my left nut bitten off than my right one"

who here knows anything about the tuned-adm package in RHEL6/CentOS6?

@voretaq7 I haven't used Unity, and only played with a Gnome 3.x beta. I should give it an honest try now that it's a bit more mature.

@ChrisS Gnome3 isn't toooo sucky. Most functionality works

Can't say either of those things about unity :P

If you guys like cute videos:

@ewwhite <--- a bit

@MikeyB How do you use it?

Do you find it to be transparent?

I'm such an awful dad.

@MikeyB Yes, because you're not teaching about RHEL tuning.

@ewwhite I was checking my notes, shithead. :p

hah... okay.

@ewwhite tuned-adm profile enterprise-storage and it's persistent. tuned-adm list to see profiles... from /etc/tune-profiles

@ewwhite @MikeyB "No daddy, can't sleep. Must patch critical security vulnerability in OpenSSL!"

And I've been playing with them and benchmarking... but I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to supplement the presets... or figure out where certain presets are.

EL6.3 added a few more profiles.

@ewwhite /etc/tune-profiles - it is in the manpage :)

I see the profiles... but I'm trying to get a feel for the most supportable way to augment those basic settings with the more complex tunables I have to work in.

@MikeyB Thats so cute I almost vomited

My son doesn't do that. The more tired he gets, the more energy he burns. So at 1% capacity remaining he over-clocks himself to consume 150% more energy than he usually does and will go batshit insane. At -5% capacity remaining he will start running around in circles till he gets dizzy and falls down and starts laughing like a madman. When you then put him to bed at -10% capacity he will kick, scream, yell how he's not tired. After an hour of this it's like a binary switch. Bam, asleep.

And this happens every single goddamn night

@MarkHenderson I feel for you. We get very similar behaviour. What works sometimes is a bit of sugar to bring her up to positive again. And fortunately for us, only happens about 20% of the time. My wife suggests soundproofing his room.

@ewwhite For anything outside what's already covered in the other files, I'd probably hit up ktune.sh. Or add another file in there... I think it'll get picked up.

@MikeyB Haha my wife would probably stab me for suggesting giving sugar to a hyperactive child. Mind you if he stays in bed, we're used to that screaming and crying. It's when he gets out of his bed and comes hunting for us that really gets to me now

@MarkHenderson Benadryl.

or a kitten

@voretaq7 Or Phenergan

@MarkHenderson also effective, but as far as I know Diphenhydramine has never killed anyone...

@voretaq7 Welll I have no intentions of pumping drugs into my kid just to make him sleep

But don't think I haven't thought about it :p

@MarkHenderson in that case you're back to using a kitten

@WesleyDavid Ugh I hate it when people use that phrase. We love to throw "un-Australian" here whenever someone does something. "What, you're buying a Prius? That's Un-Australian! Hang on, you're wearing board shorts to the beach? Un-Australian! What, you don't drink 6 beers with lunch? Un-Australian! You don't like bashing middle-eastern people? Un-Australian!"

"...cause of death: Smothered with fluffy kitty." <- And this is why we had to tattoo all the kittens with "Use Only As Directed" before we could put them on the market.

Don't like sport? Un-Australian! Drive a japanese car? Un-Australian! (german cars are OK though). Don't read tabloid news papers? Un-Australian! Don't drink cask wine? Un-Australian!

A MEERKAT! FUCK YEAH!

@MarkHenderson Don't shoot your kid with a blow-dart dipped in tree-frog poison to help bed him down at night? THAT'S UN-ABORIGINAL!!!

@WesleyDavid ...I just give him the whole frog

@WesleyDavid You don't lick the belly of a cane toad to get high? That's Un-Queenslander!

@MarkHenderson Lick my toad.

Speaking of questionable behavior directed towards cold blooded animals, how's your leeezard @voretaq7?

@WesleyDavid shedding

It's summer so my house has about a half dozen geckos stuck to the outside walls at any given moment in the evenings.

It's neat that you can see their guts from outside their bodies. Transparent little weirdies.

@WesleyDavid what kind of geckos?

adopt one!

@WesleyDavid I think you need help

You want videos of lizards jacking off, and you enjoy seeing the insides of living animals

MEDITERRANEAN GECKO Hemidactylus turcicus

Those things are all over Phoenix. Like flies they are. Except they eat flies. And can't fly. So not really like flies.

reptilesofaz.org/Lizards-Subpages/h-h-turcicus.html

speaking of which, @WesleyDavid - hows your client project coming along?

@WesleyDavid Adopt one

Also, we've got some darker ones. One hides under the birdbath dishes and when I fill them up in the morning, he flips out and tries to climb up my pantleg.

@voretaq7 I would but they don't let me get close enough =[

@voretaq7 Bacula question: Does changing the Schedule of a Job require that a new full be run?

I should find out what they like to eat and leave whatever that is out for them.

@JoelESalas Hmm...I don't know

the same way that changing the FileSet does?

I don't believe so

Look at all our lizards! reptilesofaz.org/lizards.html Just look at them!

@voretaq7 I didn't think the FileSet would cause a new full, but here we are.

@WesleyDavid you need to approach slowly

and bring them some of these:

@MarkHenderson Pretty good considering that most of the time I have no idea what I'm doing and he still keeps sending me money!

petco.com/product/12677/Waxworms.aspx

^^ Lizard Candy

@voretaq7 Looks like maggots

@voretaq7 CASE O' CRICKETS!!! petco.com/product/12676/Case-O-Crickets--250-count.aspx

@WesleyDavid Crickets suck.

@voretaq7 And thank you. I just might do that.

@JoelESalas No

@JeffFerland caterpillars actually

@MikeyB Trying it :D

So do all the birds, and I make sure they are well watered. We've got mass amounts of grackles here now, so that's good. Those mofos would eat a crankcase if they could open their beaks wide enough.

Also mockingbirds, several woodpeckers, and an occasional curved bill thrasher.

Also, peach faced lovebirds, inca doves, mourning doves and extra-stupid pigeons.

I want to paintball those damn pideons.

We have skinks here too.

@MarkHenderson Oh, and seriously, it's going okay if not a little white-knuckle. I've learned a metric crap-tonne about streaming media. Got it going pretty good and this business will truly be transformed with the new features we got up and running. Also, I've found a hell of a market that's not being addressed very well. I'm seriously considering doing something about that.