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15:00
@Chopper3 Oh good!
@MadHatter He'll be back in action this fall
Right, back to trying to archive 32GB of files over a flaky and heavily-used 2Mb/s link. I have had to explain several times why it's going to take a week or two to move the files around, and there's not much I can do to improve that.
@BrentPabst Sandler, or Chopper3? I hope for the latter, myself.
See people around....
flaky 2MB/s line, that is going to be tough
Alright I'm off to play in SQL land...
15:05
Have fun :D
Mornin gents. I could get used to this vacation thing.
Chillin at the coffee shop listening to Otis Redding.
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Q: How is banking softwares used over the internet

kartoI'm developing a banking software using php and that will be used over the internet. What are some of the security steps I should take in db design, programming, hosting...? thanks.

i need a vacation
@LucasKauffman LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ. "Be sure to tell us for which bank you are writing the software, so we can NEVER USE THEM"
"Hello I'm doing a heart transplantation, can anyone tell me what the precautions are when operating on someone?"
15:20
make sure its on a shared host!
@MDMarra yeah, my wife dropped the stuff off, I joked with her that she should just throw it at her and go "HERE!"
haha
The MTG sticker was funny
Katie was like "Pete's wife dropped the shirts off, and there's also a thing that looks like a Pokemon card"
go go airlines GEORGEMR BEECH
@MDMarra That's a limited edition one, I figured you guys would like it.
gucci.com/us/styles/285445BNN1N1087# f'ing more than the LV one i want
wheres @voretaq7 could go for a nice debate on material goods vs flight lessons :)
15:35
@lsiunsuex no debate -- get both
people tell me I don't know how to spend my money. My bank account balance says otherwise -- I'm very good at spending it!
I'd go with flight lessons
or a new parachute
i like to play in CAD software and design blue prints for a house i will build someday when i have money. My money is earmarked for the next 10 years (ish)
that way when i run into the money, i'm ready to spend it - just feed it through a real architect to put in support beams and shit
@lsiunsuex: thats pretty nice.. other than stickershock ;p
the red and ivory stripe does it for me - good they didnt add green into it - lets not become to cliche' being made in italy and all
@lsiunsuex Do it the old-fashioned way. Cheaper, Easier, Faster (unless you have experience with CAD software)
15:39
i have experience with cad software and 3d modeling
@lsiunsuex then probably just cheaper :-)
<- prefers to do drafting by hand
took specs for a dental implant my friends designed and rendered it in 3dsmax to be sent to a machine shop to be milled - came out nice
i'll draft by hand also - but final in cad / 3d - i need to get a feel for the space - size, light, windows, etc...
@lsiunsuex I need a vacation too - fortunately I've only got 6 more days after today :)
@lsiunsuex I can still do most of that in my head... I'm a freak :-/
outdoor spaces are harder
but I've never found CAD software that models plants well either
autodesk makes a special one for landscaping no?
pretty sure i've seen it
15:43
Note to self: It's really quite important to make sure you're in insert mode before pasting a regex into vim.
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@Ladadadada aah I hate it when that happens
@Ladadadada "Where'd my file go?!?" kinda important...
@JourneymanGeek same as with apple laptops. need to look past the price and understand that they made the leather from the skin of a baby's ass - thats where the price comes in :)
It was an IP address range regex, so "192." becomes "do whatever my last command was 192 times". Of course, my last command was pasting a different regex on the line above...
@lsiunsuex even if it's made out of calf's leather, you still pay most for the name
15:47
@PeterGrace yep
mit-krb5kdc-ldap guide is lying to me.
Says kdc-service only needs read access. This is only somewhat true. In order to log last success/fail attempt in the db need write access to certain attributes. Makes me wonder what else is wrong with the guide.
Other than that they want to put the db under another db, rather than as it's own.
@LucasKauffman for sure - i know this. i'm ok with this also.
16:04
dism, Y U NO have perceivable syntax consistency or sanity?!
@ChrisS UNIX USER! Y U WANT DOCUMENTATION?!?
When receiving a job offer, what types of things should be considered? @voretaq7
At least the program's built in documentation is pretty good... I just hate that I have to use the "/?" switch 10 times to figure out what commands I want and what their syntax is.
Also, no space separation for arguments that take paths means you can't use tab-completion. This makes me sad.
LUNCH TIME!
@ewwhite moneyMONEYmoneyMONEYmoneyMONEYmoney, Benefits, Time Off, Working Environment, authority and resources to do your damn job...
@ChrisS Asterisk is worse.
there's no help
fucking SMTP has HELP...
@voretaq7 money is okay. Same as I've made on base for like 10 years... Work is remote. One week a month in NYC.
Time-off has never been a consideration because in most sysadmin jobs, it's hard to actually use.
16:09
@ewwhite time off should be a consideration, and you should be able to use it
if you can't use it that goes to "Working environment"
@voretaq7 Yeah, I can use my vacation time, but whenever I take time off the mountain of things to do just piles up... So the longer I'm away the worse it's going to be when I get back.
@ChrisS that means you need more sysadmins :)
@voretaq7 Well, one job I had for 6 years... I accrued so much vacation time that I could just not come in to work for awhile
@voretaq7 We only have one. Me.
16:12
I have the same problem, but I make it clear that I WILL be taking my vacations, and I WILL NOT* be accepting phone calls :)
but I was the only real engineer, so I still had to be on-call
@ewwhite at that point I'd ask for the days to be paid out. (most companies actually have a limit and if you accumulate enough days they start forcing you to take money, or zap them entirely)
@voretaq7 I just got flexibility... and a lot of incentive for doing any extra work...
like 90% of my salary as bonus or commission...
it was my downfall... a comp plan grandfathered-in before the new management...
@lsiunsuex I wouldn't spend that much money on a computerbag
@ewwhite I want your pay structure :-)
16:16
In general, I think it's the American fear that if we take vacations... and everything goes smoothly in our absence, then we're not critical (hence: expendable)
@ewwhite If you're doing it right you should be able to be replaced.
@voretaq7 That was years ago... but it got to the point where I made more than the president of the company... and he had some real issues about it.
@LucasKauffman I think I've posted this on here before sorry but for a bag I've got a version of one of these but slightly altered to take a 17" MBP - htleather.co.uk/briefcases/the-full-monty
felt like he was being held hostage
I don't understand why people don't understand that concept. I see a company where the sysadmin leaves and everyone panics and what I really see is a sysadmin who is utterly incompetent.
16:17
@Chopper3 I like that more than the other one, it's pretty and affordable
@Chopper3 I'm with a more modern-looking MBP bag...
@LucasKauffman I met the guy, miserable sod, had a store at Camden Market before it burnt down - not sure if he still has
@voretaq7 it's a bit of a paradox
@voretaq7 You have to show where your value is. In every job, I've been replaced by multiple people. I was pushed out for making too much $$ and generally being a terror...
but it took the company 4 years to recover and a total of 6 engineers to replace me.
Prior to that I used to have a zero halliburton computer case (even handcuffed it to myself - Ronin style a few times :) )
16:19
@ewwhite mmm that looks too hippy for me
which really meant that they were mismanaging the business...
@ewwhite You can't show your value until you've left
Oh, the 4 remaining engineers only handle 75% of the old workload. I took 25% of the customers with me.
bradley wiggins is doing a good job it seems
(I was let-go without a non-compete or any paperwork)
@LucasKauffman Taylor Phinney
16:22
?
bradley has 7 olympic medals atm
@LucasKauffman he's the most typically-British famous bloke I know, most british celebrities are nothing like the normal 'man on the street' but he's exactly that
@Chopper3 he also looks British, bit a big nose and flappy ears
I like it
@LucasKauffman oops.. coverage didn't reach here yet
oh well
@Chopper3 a mate of mine quite regularly gets passed by him
16:23
:)
@Iain I can imagine
in microsoft's volume licensing center, which software assurance means i'll get windows 8 on the 16th ? not sure if we got SA
Damnit... Taylor Phinney was 4th again
I occasionally see Chris Boadman on the road - he always waves (he only lives about 4 miles from here)
@lsiunsuex "Software Assurance" and "Windows 8" - hahahahahahaha
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16:26
k, so i dont have it haha
@Chopper3 "I assure you it's software." -- Seems legit.
@LucasKauffman One more...
I assure you it's Genuine Microsoft Windows 8. You can be sure because of the blue screen with the white text on it.
@MichaelHampton 0xYOURFUCKED - Genuine(tm) Microsoft(tm) Windows(tm)
@voretaq7 I have a theory that Microsoft intentionally makes Windows crappy so as to create and maintain a job market for Windows admins.
16:29
@voretaq7 twitch
@MikeyB mrr?
@voretaq7 0×OYOUREFUCKED FTFY
@MikeyB but now its an odd number of letters... twitch
What a load of shit, this is
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Q: Attempt at designing a secure network

user130610I have been tasked with designing a secure network for a company that has offices scattered around the UK and a headquarters located abroad where the servers are also located. Each office has a local network that is connected through the public network. They require that all desktops at these loc...

@MDMarra He should get together with the guy designing secure banking software in PHP from scratch.
16:34
haha right!
I was just thinking that
Cuz, you know, what I get up to on Youtube is watching a toilet flush. At least it's a Champion Toilet.
@MikeyB wheeeeee
@voretaq7 we were in an edit deadlock there for a minute
:p
Not that it mattered, the thing got closed
@MDMarra yeah. but edit locking is harrrrrd
How can this be rude/offensive
Product recommendations are off topic per the FAQ, even if it is just research. — sysadmin1138 25 mins ago
16:35
(edit locking is hard, let's generate a million revisions!)
@MikeyB wait, someone was trying to do that?
@MikeyB That would still struggle with one of my "Pan-Blockers"© - the sort of turd that you have to break up with a wire coat-hanger
@Iain Because $_ASKER was told NO! Anyone who says no is MEAN AND RUDE AND A HORRIBLE PERSON! Summer of Love man! Pass the hippies! :)
@Iain offense is subjective, someone is offended that they're being accused of asking for a recommendation
@Chopper3 Truth be told, when I saw that on Twitter I was expecting something like ratemypoo-dot-com. WillItFlush-dot-com. Place bets on whether that log is going to go down the river without any assistance.
16:37
@TylerShads if people find that offensive then I don't see how they can live outside of their closed religious community
@Iain welcome to the internet, good sir, where I just offended 10 people in writing this sentence alone.
@TylerShads indeed
@TylerShads Flagged.
:P
@voretaq7 fuck
Yeah so small shops will commiserate with me on this one.
you are an evil man voretaq
16:40
Only person with any knowledge of our system, and I'm going on vacation on the 17th, I wonder how many phone calls I'll get saying "THIS IS BROKEN"
I'mma get me a Patton tank helmet.
And instead of General's stars I'mma put a diamond on it and "Mean Mr. Mod" on the back!
I'm in ur StackExchange site....Closin' your shit questions!
I just realized that this is probably the last 24 day in a row holyday I will have here in spain for the coming 40 years... that's a depressing thought actually
@TylerShads "Oh crap, my phone battery died and I didn't notice for two days."
@MichaelHampton ...That would be funny if that hasn't happened before...
My best is being called at 1am to help our overnight worker with something she deemed URGENT
@LucasKauffman Become a college professor? :)
16:42
turned out, she deleted her english paper on her personal laptop and thought it wise to wake me up and have me drive into work to tell her it was gone forever
@voretaq7 I'd like to earn some money too so I can actually go to spain as well
@TylerShads RAGEKILLED ?
@LucasKauffman Become a college professor in Madrid? :)
@voretaq7 Hell and death are too good of a fate for people like that...
@voretaq7 then the problem becomes, "I'd like to make money in general" :p
I think a spanish teacher doesn't earn a lot at the moment
@LucasKauffman Money or Summers Off. Pick one. :)
16:51
@LucasKauffman Can't you just drive down there??
Or take the train... I suppose driving is a US obsession.
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Q: Is there a filesystem that supports inheritance?

andyortliebI am wondering if (in any state of development) there exists a filesystem that can inherit files from another filesystem, but changes made on that mount point would only affect that mount point. This would be sort of like a distributed filesystem that only synchronizes inward and never outward, ...

@ewwhite Linux must have something like that.. In BSD land it's nullfs or unionfs.
Any storage people here? NetApp compression question.
with VMWare.
17:06
No vCole or Basil today?
Bummer
Nah, it seems.
Client with a NetApp... most of my scary stories start like that...
But we have a VMWare instance that compresses well... I tested it out last night and we're getting 75% compression on the dataset.
But we have to over-provision at some layer... In ZFS, VMWare storage reflects the compressed size of the VMDK's. In NetApp, it shows the full size...
and should I know what WinPE is?
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Q: HP DL380 G4 - Cannot install Server 2008 R2 64bit - not compatible

Jake ElsleyI recently purchased some software which will only run on the 64bit version of Windows, so I need to do a clean install of the 64bit version of Server 2008. When I ran the Intel Process Utility it told me that my processor was 64bit capable, but when I boot in WinPE (no DVD drive you see) and run...

@ChrisS takes 14 hours by train and 3 by airplane, I can of course but not that long
@ewwhite would you like me to add your answer feed to the room to save you the effort ?
@LucasKauffman See, it'd be 13 hours each way by plane and cost a dead minimum of $900 USD for me to get there and back. You can go for almost nothing.
@Iain Snark-snark...
17:12
@ChrisS I also earn a third of what you earn :p and the problem is just having time to do all that stuff
@ewwhite Yes.
@ChrisS On the HP side, we always used SmartStart. Is this a different environment?
@LucasKauffman I suppose you're right.
@ewwhite Yeah. Windows Pre-Installation Environment. It's a super lightweight version of Windows, same one used for Windows Setup in Vista+. The WinAIK comes with the tools to build your own WinPE image (for CD, USB drive, HD, or PXE boot), where it boots to a command prompt.
I never use SmartStart anymore... Too much HP bloat.
@ChrisS So like a RHEL boot.iso or netboot image?
@ewwhite Yeah, very comparable.
17:17
Yeah, I never knew. BTW, how did the HP pricing look?
I find it invaluable for servicing machines.. I've got a PXE boot setup for WinPE where I can run imagex, mstsc, msert (virus detection tool), BIOS/firmware updates, and a slew of other junk^H^H^H^H tools.
@ewwhite sort of but you do spam your answers in here more than any one else - it's almost like you're trying to game the system by getting the well known rep bump from doing so as much as possible ;)
@ewwhite I'm sold, just need to convince my boss that spending an extra $2000 above our budget (which was based on a CDW quote from last year) is worth it. He's pretty good about that stuff, so shouldn't be an issue, but he's on stay-cation right now. So I think he's ignoring me. =]
@Iain I post questions. Some with answers. Some without.
@ChrisS What's the application? THe vendor called this morning and asked why nobody buys BL490's.
The memory-optimized virtualization blades.
@ewwhite Hyper-V cluster. I've got nothing against BL490s as we don't need HDs in them... The BL460 is just super popular, so that's what I was looking at.
17:22
Let me get the price... does Hyper-V have a nice way to boot of of SAN or use the internal SD slot?
I used to buy 490's, then the DIMM slots on 460's increased and it means I can buy one blade for 95% of my use cases
@ewwhite Yeah, both in HV 3.0
@Chopper3 So unless there's a compelling price advantage of the 490 over the 460, it doesn't make a difference?
Hyper-V has always been able to iSCSI (what we use) or FC boot. The newest version can PXE or USB boot too.
AND we're back
17:24
@ewwhite the problem with the 490 is that unless you're happy to boot from SD/USB you HAVE to buy SSDs to boot from ($$$$) and the G6 490's didn't have any form of RAID
@ChrisS You really only need that for massive deployments though
Doesn't make a lot of sense to add the complexity of pxe boot vs a local install on SD for smaller shops, really
Meh. I suppose if the shop doesn't have someone who understands it already, you're right.
My only problem with iSCSI boot was the directions for installing Windows to the LUN were farking wrong (both HP and Broadcom's versions). I finally just built an image and injected the correct drivers, then wrote that to the LUN.
anyone looked at digg.com today? the new layout is nice. may actually read it
@chriss 4 servers?
@ChrisS What's the advantage to pxe boot vs SD?
17:31
@ewwhite Yeah. For now at least...
Pretty much just for rapid provisioning, right?
@MDMarra I suppose you could make the argument that PXE doesn't require you to buy the SD cards, but that's pretty weak. The technology that enables both is the same, so that's why both got added.
@MDMarra We extensively used a PXE/WinPE/APF/ADF chain to build out 'Vision 1.0' as it was all physical/MS - worked a treat, not quick but very consistent - thanks have moved on a bit today though obviously, this was 2005
@Chopper3 Right, but I meant specifically for delivering the host Hyper-V image to the Hyper-V host on boot
oh fuck knows sorry
17:35
PXE is great for OS install to bare metal or anywhere else that you can't leverage a VM template :p
@ChrisS "I want to do it because it's fucking cool" is a valid answer too sometimes :)
@chriss the BL490's are part #603599-B21
@MDMarra I wish I had the time (and use case) for a PXE environment :)
@voretaq7 I've used it extensively for OS image deployment to clients in labs and stuff
@chriss So, X5690 CPUs... $1600 each.
(for the blade)
Never really needed to use it to deliver an actual OS image to a server on startup
I took one look at the guide to deploy ESXi with it and said "fuck it, buy 4 SD cards"
17:39
@chriss Almost $1000 less than the BL460c G7's I quoted, so if you can get by with the BL490, it's not a bad deal. Only have 9 units left at that price, though.
@MDMarra I used to use DSL and knoppix to PXE boot kiosks and point-of-sale terminals... it's fine.
Yeah, Linux has had support for booting the OS from a PXE image forever
If you're going to run ESXi from an SD card remember to use the manufacturer's version of the code for SD, they change the settings so it doesn't write so much - 'regular' ESXi will kill an SD card in days
Unfortunately, no need to mess with stuff like that in an academic env
@MDMarra yeah, we don't redeploy systems that frequently (and when we do if it already has an OS we don't boot it)
@Chopper3 Really? So download the HP install for ESXi? I've done that in some cases, but in others, downloaded the ESXi image from VMWare and installed the HP tool and utilities after the fact. They all seem to end up working the same way once update manager is done.
17:42
@ewwhite I think the BL490c only comes with 1 CPU unless you buy a add-on kit.
@ewwhite yes, plus it's got the CIM providers installed too - edit - they used to be about a month behind vmware on major releases but it's days now
@ChrisS You are right... my bad.
@Chopper3 right, I just install those after the fact now.
BREAKING: Orville and Wilbur Wright's machine flies.
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@Aaron hey
@Aaron you can't watch that - it happened in Paris. It has nothing to do with America :-)
18:06
That was weird... did chat just go down?
@ChrisS Oooh makes me shiver. You just brought up memories of a few years ago making Win2003 do iSCSI software boot over a bonded ethernet device. Which MS & Broadcom said couldn't be done.
@BrentPabst Teste Teste. Nope.
latimes.com/news/local/… or you know, hire a sys admin that knows how to set a content filter ?
wow, i was getting a nice stack exchange error page
@MikeyB It's not that it can't be done, it that it shouldn't. iSCSI doesn't failover if the primary NIC gets unplugged.
@BrentPabst something flickered for me also
18:08
@ChrisS I'm out of context but iSCSI does failover if your using MPIO
@BrentPabst yeah, that's the Right Way to do it. Particular use case here, machines only had 2 NICs and they needed a single IP on them :/
@ChrisS Yeah, that's part of what I made work.
@MikeyB Ah gotcha... yea wtf that doesn't sound like a good idea
Although maybe you could team the NICs? Not sure if that would even work though
@BrentPabst It's not really, you ought to have awareness at the OS level of the multiple paths.
@lsiunsuex Er, let's not filter content when we should be reprimanding/firing employees who aren't doing their job.
@BrentPabst Yeah, bonded == teamed
18:10
@MDMarra speaking of pxe, how long from when the machine boots does it take to welcome screen for your WDS?
@TylerShads 10 minutes under fairly ideal circumstances.
@MikeyB Like I said out of context chat was all kinds of messed up over here
@ChrisS "The question is where are the supervisors when this is going on?" Watching the Olympics.
@ChrisS 10 mintues from boot to a fully workable OS? goddamn what am i doing wrong then
@MikeyB Yeah... The supervisors should be noticing that their employees aren't producing and having a little talk with them.
18:12
@MikeyB They aren't watching the olympics... those are only on during primetime
@TylerShads Yeah, it takes about 2-3 minutes to boot WinPE and all that jazz; a couple minutes to copy the image down to the machine; another minute to reboot... This is assuming I have the NIC drivers in my WinPE image already, have an image to write to that model of machine and don't have to dink with injecting drivers, that the image is one of the smaller ones (some of our images have 20GB of crap^H^H^H^H line-of-business software installed)...
And you use WDS? Hm, something is very wrong with my setup then, takes about 5 min to get to the language select screen, then another ~15-20 min for windows to install.
and thats with some automation + having network drivers already.
@TylerShads Could be a difference in client power as well
@TylerShads I use a rather customized version of WDS, but yeah, it's there.
@ChrisS customized how?
18:16
These machines are all the latest and greatest with SSDs and all that too.
that would help :P
I tested my WDS on a brand new vostro 260 yesterday, took about that long in total before it asked me for product key (lol @ $BOSS being too cheap for an enterprise key)
after that it was golden though, no other issues.
@TylerShads I built the WinPE image myself, so I don't use the WDS Client that talks with the WDS Server; I just skip right to a batch script that selects the image from a network share and starts writing it right away.
I don't run Windows Setup either, the batch script just writes a wim it finds on the network with the imagex utility.
@ChrisS Ah, I'm just working off the base boot image with a custom win7 image that runs through the setup and all that
so I guess my times are about normal then, i suppose.
Even with @MDMarra's help, I can't get the image selection, nor the disk format to automate properly.
And if I was allowed to get an enterprise key, I can probably shove that in there too, but alas.
I got mad fighting with stuff that should be simple in WDS and just wrote that quick batch file... it calls diskpart with a script to configure the partitions layout and formats them.
I wish once Microsoft killed support for an OS we could stop answering questions about it as well...
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Q: Replace Windows logon ui (gina) with a win32 application

wikiIs this possible to replace windows xp logon ui (i mean gina) with a win32 application? I don't talk a about writing a dll and replace it with windows original gina dll, I mean a proper interactive win32 application like notepad.exe

18:22
@ChrisS It lays out properly, just no format, I should probably go back and do that stuff. Haven't touched it since April before yesterday due to other projects.
@BrentPabst dafuq are they saying
@TylerShads In XP you could override the logon shell... for instance to replace it with a custom fingerprint program or facial recog. I have no idea why he would want to launch a program instead.
@BrentPabst auto login as the user and replace explorer.exe with notepad.exe
@BrentPabst I understand that part, I mean the user's speech in general :P
Who knows... summer of love and all
@lsiunsuex Better yet... autologin and launch a program on startup...
@BrentPabst better yet, hire a consultant
18:28
@TylerShads Hell... ask it on SuperUser where it belongs
I do feel a little bad for this guy... hes asked a few questions and still doesn't get how to ask questions: serverfault.com/users/126775/wiki
my overall point
@BrentPabst There's a large language barrier there I think... He's from the other side of the world.
@ChrisS his English is much better than my Iranian
Ugh I am so ready for this day to be over
18:43
@TylerShads The initial welcme screen, or a usable desktop?
The initial welcome screen before "Finishing Installation" was maybe 20-25 min for ~30 workstations with 100Mb connections over a 1Gbe backhaul using unicast (gross, I know)
@TylerShads There's an option for something like "WillWipeDisk" or whatever, set that to true
I don't work at that job any more, though. And I don't have anything to do with desktop deployment at my new gig
So, I'm afraid I can't spit out any specific XML snippets :(
@MDMarra usable desktop
A couple of hours usually
But I was also installing stuff like Visual Studio 2010 + SPs, etc through batch or PowerShell scripts
If It was a base image without any extra stuff, I'd expect it between 30-40 minutes probably
maybe shorter
@MDMarra Ah, I only have a 3 LOB apps + Office 2007, adobe and MSE.
Are you using a captured image?
18:50
Ah, I don't have any experience with that
You have the whole sysprep element to deal with, which I always avoided
Not too bad, actually, just sysprep the final state, capture the sysprep'd image.
The only modifications that I ever made were to the offline base .wim using DISM to integrate windows patches offline
@TylerShads Right, but I don't know how having pre-defined volume labels and shiz interacts with the disk options in the unattend files and what-have-you
There could be some black magic there that I'm unaware of, because I never had to touch it
I had to muddle with DISM yesterday for a network driver, but not bothering with updates cause I have WSUS. Unless that's an idiotic thing to say,then I'll reconsider.
You can do drivers through the WDS console
It basically just calls DISM under the hood for you
I said muddle, then I realized I could through the console :P
18:53
We had WSUS as well, but not having to install like 60 updates, then reboot, then 10 more, then reboot, then 2 more was necessary for us
We used WSUS to keep deployed systems patched, but one of our internal requirements was that systems were deployed with patches no more than 60 days out of date
@MDMarra everyone should do this
Then they'd grab the last 2ish months worth from WSUS
@MDMarra It does... But only in the BCD file, which is fairly easy to automate.
it's almost impossible to to get a raw system caught up in WSUS with normal update intervals
also i'm lazy and don't like having to worry about sitting there for an hour patching a windows system
In the week between summer and fall classes, our EUS guys would reimage almost 1000 computers
It, literally, wouldn't be possible for them to patch it all by hand
18:56
Certainly not, but you could include a script to force the box to install updates before it's done too.
@MDMarra Good point. Found something new to learn then.
It's much faster to update the base image offline before deployment though. Especially helpful when someone's got a virus and you're wiping their machine.
I had it automated so that I would just download the .msu files to a specific directory, then I had a batch script that would extract it, expand it, copy the cabs to a staging directory, and then call dism to import them into an offline image
@ChrisS Right, but at any given time, these switches with 1Gb uplinks would be pegged because of the imaging
Better to just have the updates into the image than have a separate process sucking down more bandwidth postimage
for us, anyway
I've toyed with SCCM as it has the ability to distribute images via multicast, but I could rarely get it's Client program to work correctly... Way too much secret sauce in that system to figure out why things failed all the time.

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