The Comms Room

Jacob

23:00

@coredump it was meant for someone else

WesleyDavid

I'm a GroundWork Open Source snob. Makes Nagios not suck.

Jacob

:)

coredump

But it's mainly because I like russian programmers

@Jacob :(

SpacemanSpiff

I pretty much tell people to use the one they like.

It's the only right answer to the question, IMHO.

coredump

I tell people to use anything but nagios

Jacob

23:01

@coredump =) =P ?

coredump

Nagios left me butthurt

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Jacob

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where did this come from?

SpacemanSpiff

Now that's an enterprise level question!

out for the day, take it easy everyone.

coredump

Too bad we can't be sarcastic on answers...

WesleyDavid

later spiff

Jacob

23:03

@SpacemanSpiff I was like WTF that doesn't require you to read the FAQ you'd now if you looked at the URL( its off topic) . :)

ITHedgeHog

I'm only using Nagios because I can't get in our SCOM love at work

coredump

Did anyone hear about reconnoiter?

labs.omniti.com/labs/reconnoiter

WesleyDavid

@ITHedgeHog How's that? You can't get it or those who run it won't let you use it?

coredump

I am interested in testing it

ITHedgeHog

@WesleyDavid It runs on our internal network, and I'm primary on our perimeter network - the SCOM owner doesn't want to see my systems in his SCOM install

WesleyDavid

23:07

@coredump And yes. Jason Dixon aka Obfuscirity worked on the Circonus project, which is hosted Reconnoiter.

Want me to see if I can pull him in here?

coredump

@WesleyDavid that would be cool

Reconnoiter has some stuff that really makes sense

like trend analysis

I also like a lot the OmniTI guy... Theo Schossomethingnagle

WesleyDavid

schlossnagle

ITHedgeHog

Reconnoiter does look interesting

WesleyDavid

Yeah, it looks good.

coredump

OmniTI is one of the places I will eventually send my resume

you never know

WesleyDavid

23:10

@coredump Looks like an awesome place to work. You can ask Jason when/if he gets here.

coredump

<3 SF

WesleyDavid

Are there any Nagios certifications?

I guess that was a LMGTFY moment

ITHedgeHog

I'm off, time for some admin shut eye

WesleyDavid

later! Stay prickly. ;)

sysadmin1138

Hm. Chance of snow later this week. Fun times.

WesleyDavid

23:18

@coredump Jason will be in here in a few minutes. He's driving home with Pizza at the moment. ;)

coredump

@WesleyDavid thank you, sir, you're most kind.

73F here.

WesleyDavid

Where are you?

obfuscurity

oh hai

WesleyDavid

Wewt. Jason @obfuscurity Dixon, meet @coredump - a few of us were talking about Nagios kinda sucking and then Reconnoiter / Circonus came up.

We think it is a Right Thing (tm)

Warner

Nagios is awesome.

coredump

23:21

@Warner see the phrase starred to the side :)

@obfuscurity Hey!

Warner

I'm sorry. They sell support... ;p

obfuscurity

hiya

sup

WesleyDavid

Pardon if I'm an ig-no-ramus, but Circonus is in essence hosted reconnoiter?

obfuscurity

yes

+ fault-detection/notifications + capacity-planning

and other "nice stuff"

WesleyDavid

Thought so, but it wasn't totally clear.

obfuscurity

23:23

and a much better interface

coredump

I was going to ask if reconnoiter is already production-level, but CIrconus kinda answer it

obfuscurity

and an API

reconnoiter is collection agents + crappy (imho) php UI

WesleyDavid

Yeah, Circonus looked prettier. Reconnoiter is like the ugly sister that I have to be a wingman on.

coredump

yeah, last test I did reconnoiter was not very userfriendly to configure

obfuscurity

lol

WesleyDavid

23:24

So Circonus is more than just hosted reconnoiter then. I mean, is it almost like a fork?

Does the Circonus team do things that don't get put back into Reconnoiter?

coredump

@obfuscurity is the circonus interface going to be available some day? :P

WesleyDavid

Circonus pricing: "SMS usage will be billed out at our cost + $0.01" = WIN!

Nice that it's not a price tier of features, and only number of metrics.

coredump

@obfuscurity how is reconnoiter dev going? The lists seem a little dead.

WesleyDavid

I think he's probably nomming his pizza. ;)

coredump

Tought that too

WesleyDavid

23:31

And damn but if I'm not in love with the Circonus interface. I want the design team that made that interface to design my own control panel when I get my company rolling.

obfuscurity

oops, scrolled on me

Circonus isn't a fork

it's built on top of reconnoiter

reconnoiter is the collection engine (stratcond, noitd's)

WesleyDavid

ohhh, okay

obfuscurity

any reconnoiter modifications get rolled back to open source

but not stuff built on top

e.g. fault detection, notifications,

and a couple exceptions like Google Analytics and NewRelic import agents

WesleyDavid

okay, that makes sense now.

obfuscurity

and I'm proud to say I had a lot of input on the UI

I wasn't the main designer, but I had a lot of influence on UX

WesleyDavid

23:34

@obfuscurity You done good.

obfuscurity

danke

why the hell is pastebin.ca still down?

Bill Weiss

hey folks. Sorry if this isn't welcome here, but where (other than careers.stackoverflow, which I'm already on) do people look for IT jobs?

I'm posting one, not looking :)

(it could be you! careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/10175/…)

WesleyDavid

pastie.org ?

gist.github.com ?

obfuscurity

dice.com

wesley: I'm installing a local pastebin.

for whatever reason, pastebin.ca apparently crapped out last night

and I just /happened/ to need it /today/

WesleyDavid

there's careers.serverfault.com

coredump

23:38

really? there's a serverfault career site

and I didn't know it

WesleyDavid

not sure how or if resumes on stackoverflow are shared on serverfault

obfuscurity

fucking pastebin.ca (github) deep-links a lot of static files (css/img) to their own site.

oh nm, discussion has changed :)

WesleyDavid

But Dice.com is the best big IT work job posting board I've seen.

@obfuscurity random, unrelated conversations make this chat room feel more like a real IT department. Carry on.

coredump

I will start searching there. Still trying to exit this country using my skills

obfuscurity

whee

Zoredache

23:41

@BillWeiss, occasionally craigslist

obfuscurity

oh hai Bill

small fucking world

WesleyDavid

spews beverage over desk

Craigslist?

obfuscurity

@BillWeiss I missed your name the first time

WesleyDavid

I do admit I've looked for gigs on there.

obfuscurity

how do we keep running into each other :)

Zoredache

23:42

Well, for level 1 techs. If you are looking for a head IT guy, maybe not

Bill Weiss

WesleyDavid: that's the same as careers.stackoverflow, right

?

obfuscurity

fuck, nm

I'm an idiot

mind is spinning, too much php today

this would be the perfect time to code some perl

Bill Weiss

obfuscurity: I was going to say, who are you? :) I'd believe it, but I don't recognize the nick

yeah, I want to avoid CL, SN ratio sucks

WesleyDavid

@BillWeiss You know, I'm not sure. It's almost as if careers.SF.com is just a premade search for admin jobs on the larger SO site.

Bill Weiss

what I posted on SO is on careers.SF

so, yay

WesleyDavid

23:44

nm, I see your job listing on careers.SF so yeah.

Bill Weiss

I think we've used the 37signals board before as well

Zoredache

Last few times we have tried, to hire in the last couple years, hardly anybody seems to apply. I don't get why people don't want to work in a nice small town like Anacortes.

coredump

With some strange results careers.serverfault.com/jobs/10174/…

Bill Weiss

but that's mostly for developers?

Sysadmin1138 Expounds

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coredump

23:45

@Zoredache don't tempt me. I am up for almost any place.

WesleyDavid

jobs.linux.com

Bill Weiss

o

coredump

except places at war or extreme religions.

Bill Weiss

*oo

coredump

OooO?

Bill Weiss

23:46

I like the sound of jobs.linux.com

have any of you used it?

WesleyDavid

Not I, said the cat.

Linux Foundation made it, I think.

Zoredache

No openings at the moment. Layoffs may even be likely if the state decides that we are the thing to cut from the budget.

sysadmin1138

@Zoredache Yeah. We're fearing that ax as well.

Bill Weiss

also, if any of you are in Chicago (or willing to move yourself here, it's nice!), well, look at the above job ad :)

obfuscurity

@BillWeiss what ad?

Bill Weiss

23:48

careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/10175/…

obfuscurity

sorry, found it :)

Bill Weiss

that's me, hiring

coredump

@BillWeiss I did. No car :P

jobs.linux.com is cool

Bill Weiss

that's ok!

coredump

they even have the option to WARN you that you're on the wrong country

Bill Weiss

23:49

I don't have one either, Zipcar takes care of me

the company even covers some or all of it

oh, well

hmph

coredump

?

Bill Weiss

I can't help with the wrong country thing :)

coredump

hehe

obfuscurity

ok, off to code something

coredump

Hey @obfuscurity thanks for the info on recon

obfuscurity

23:52

np

honestly, I would look at Graphite if you're not interested in commercial solutions.

it does a lot of what Circonus does, minus the SaaS benefits and edge features.

that's probably what I'll end up deploying at my new place.

coredump

@obfuscurity will do.

@obfuscurity is it related to reconnoiter?

well

time to give the missus some attention

WesleyDavid

I don't know what it is, but I want one.

flickr.com/photos/drmillerlg/5353645992/in/pool-421674@N21

coredump

@WesleyDavid I think it's a lab

old school

obfuscurity

@coredump no, it's not related to reconnoiter

it was a similar system developed by Orbitz and released as open source

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