The Comms Room

voretaq7

01:33

@growse could be worse

'Driver failed to detach' - no, serously, it's clawed into my leg! GET IT OFF ME!

jscott

@voretaq7 No doubt the driver would be evil enough to drag you off the mountain side, smashing your body on the way down

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Ah markdown, there's no pleasing you.

voretaq7

@jscott Markdown is a harsh mistress.

:4391443 I was already mean to him,what more do you want?

and stop abusing markdown!

Ward

Maybe it's just me... various things are slow or simply not happening in Chat...

voretaq7

poor thing is like a battered child

@Ward not just you - oneboxing has been shit for me for the last few days.

I think the AJAX monkeys are a little drunk

Ward

Many avatars aren't showing, links to SF questions either take forever to be oneboxed or never show up until I reload the page.

voretaq7

01:46

works fine if you reload the page

@Ward hey, yesterday I didn't have vote arrows for half the day :-/

I could click in the right spot and the lit-up arrow would appear. Just no inactive ones.

Ward

Must be badgers in the SE servers

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Q: ssh refused all connect after one connect failed

I have three severs A, B, C which all installed debian. A runing a ssh server. B can connect to A through ssh, but C can not. After C was refused by A. B can not ssh to A too! I have checked /etc/hosts.deny, /etc/hosts.allow, iptables -L, still no any ideas about this problem. Is there any ...

ssh

Also, all your chat comments didn't show up until I reloaded the page...

@voretaq7 That would be torture for me.

voretaq7

02:05

@Ward chat hates you.

voretaq7

02:17

hah! BUG!

@Ward, should I delete my Badgers comment as not constructive?

Joel

@voretaq7 I tried to be nice to the guy

voretaq7

@Joel I did too. I see it got you a downvote for your trouble.

@Joel do you think I should delete my badgers comment on the SSH question (the link one)

(all the other mods are sleeping, or getting laid, or huffing halon - I shouldn't be allowed to moderate myself damnit - I have no self control!)

Joel

@voretaq7 somehow Jim B got an upboat for his response

voretaq7

@Joel I upvoted both of you for trying to help the poor kid, though I'll probably delete the question once it gets closed

Joel

@voretaq7 Thank you. I'd like to believe that he downvoted me while responding in a nearly identical fashion

voretaq7

02:23

wait I closed it... ok I'll probably delete it tomorrow :P

I need a beer or something, I'm too sober to think right :(

Ward

@voretaq7 Luckily, I keep my sound turned off by default.

voretaq7

@Ward heh, so that's a "delete the badgers"?

sniffles bye bye badger....

Ward

The new gmail looks sucks, but I guess I'll get used to it.

I'll feel better once I finish pulling all my mail off of it, though.

voretaq7

02:39

@Ward I log in to gmail proper every few weeks to delete everything

voretaq7

02:59

I'm the Postgres answer fairy

Adrian

@Ward What you moving your mail to?

voretaq7

@Adrian USPS.

It's a great system, emails take 3 days to get there, no delivery on sunday, and it only costs $0.45 to click send!

mgorven

ROFL

Adrian

03:31

@voretaq7 Heh. I love how my users start whining when mail takes more than 20 seconds to get to its destination.

They REALLY hate it when I point out that there is no requirement in the mail protocol that mail should arrive instantaneously and that they should use a phone if it's that urgent.

I get dirty looks when I say "Store and Forward"

voretaq7

@Adrian I point out there's no guarantee it gets there at all.

Adrian

@voretaq7 Yeah, they're not ready for that. Even though those same people have requested that we remove the delivery failure emails since "they're so confusing"

I seem to very extremely intolerant of people who can't figure out how to Google for basic research on their questions tonight.

voretaq7

@Adrian who?

Adrian

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Q: Forcing all Internet Traffic OverVPN, Allowing LAN Access

I have an Ubuntu Box on my LAN that I would like to: Send all external traffic over an OpenVPN connection (tun0) Deny all external traffic if the OpenVPN connection should fail Allow all internal traffic to my 192.168.0.0 network Any ideas on where I can get some example iptables configuratio...

linux vpn iptables

voretaq7

@Adrian oy. didn't even look.

Postgres Dude is using all my patience at the moment :)

Adrian

03:46

Perhaps this will help.

lovethesepics.com/2011/06/…

@voretaq7 That the guy that assumed 'larson' would be a valid user?

voretaq7

@Adrian and who couldn't figure out sysctl.conf, and who couldn't figure out why postmaster wouldn't start

Adrian

@voretaq7 Ouch. Dude needs his keyboard operator's license revoked.

voretaq7

If I had realized it was the same guy on all 3 questions I would have closed the last one and told him he struck out and had to go read the manual now.

so we'll just call that last one a foul ball that went off into the stands and killed a pregnant mother of 4 while her children looked on in abject, trauma-inducing horror.

Adrian

Does 'sysctl' allow for the -p option to reload its settings from the file?

Hmm. I think I'll throw that in as an answer.

voretaq7

@Adrian I don't think so on OS X looks

doesn't appear so - -p and reload don't appear anywhere in the man page. load and file just take me to various knobs.

Adrian

03:55

Apple should quit fscking around with the O/S and taking stuff out.

voretaq7

@Adrian when did -p appear? It might not have been there when they stole the userland from freebsd :)

Adrian

@voretaq7 I honestly don't know. It's certainly been there since the late 2000s.

voretaq7

apple stole 5.x right?

Adrian

Wait. He was actually asking WHERE the sysctl.conf file lives? Doesn't OSX have mlocate or an equivalent?

FFS, I KNOW it has a file search function, because it had that before OSX.

voretaq7

hmm

actually it has no -p in the manual up to 9.0

@Adrian the file doesn't exist until you create it

also ever since spotlight the locate database doesn't get created anymore unless you do it manually :-P

Adrian

04:01

@voretaq7 That a FreeBSD thing? I've not seen any Linux distributions lately that didn't have one, even if just full of defaults and comments, already there in place.

@voretaq7 Are they using rotten tree stumps for project managers?

voretaq7

@Adrian OS X thing :)

no comment on project managers

Adrian

Thank God the only one I have to support is safely at the Executive Directors house and we only have to fix his Tbird occasionally.

voretaq7

@Adrian ThunderCougarFalconBird - Email for the 31st Century.

Adrian

@voretaq7 That said, the version that came with 12.04LTS seemed to work pretty well at first blush this morning.

Adrian

04:38

Sheesh. Going through old questions tonight cleaning up some of the crap.

One dude had a VMWare 4 system under Raid5 with a failed drive that they let continue running without replacing the failed unit for SIX MONTHS. And then he posts here wondering if logical drive errors after finally replacing the drive are a normal thing. facepalm

WesleyDavid

@MikeyB ♪ ♫ Your humps! Your humps! Your lovely kernel humps! ♫ ♪

WesleyDavid

05:32

@mgorven Heya. Around?

mgorven

@WesleyDavid Yup

Ward

@Adrian text files

WesleyDavid

@mgorven Good answer here: http://serverfault.com/a/384013/9770
Here's just a suggestion for you to ruminate on. This is purely style and opinion:

Whenever I write an answer, I do a text search for a question mark. If the question is directed to the OP, I always rewrite the sentence(s) and tone to be active-voiced emphatic. I never put a question in my answer, unless it's facetious. That encourages comment discussion. I always assume I know what the OP is talking about, and if I'm unsure, I put "forks in the road"

Like, "If what you wanted to do was, blah, then here's how. If what you wanted was blurgle, then..."

Makes for good answers for future readers and also culls more info from the OP when they indignantly opine "I didn't want that!"

=)

mgorven

@WesleyDavid Right, I was struggling a bit to structure the information in that answer.

WesleyDavid

Totally a style thing though. It makes answers windy and very long. I tend to be a very wordy person by nature, so it comes naturally. =)

Then again, ServerFault seems to be like Reddit when a Wall O' Text is encountered. "Words! TL;DR but it was formatted nicely." upvote

@mgorven And you got a comment. tee hee

mgorven

05:50

@WesleyDavid Bah

ITHedgeHog

07:20

@KyleBrandt Thank you!

My wife has epic boobs today, the milk has arrived - and I cannot touch them =(

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