The Comms Room

Bart Silverstrim

16:01

@petergrace - how many female devs do you have?

MikeyB

@Aaron pastebin.com/81dRy66j

Aaron

looks like I need to install "mercurial" as well

MikeyB

@Aaron Worth it, you're just a 'hg pull', 'make' and 'bin/release/DwarfTherapist' away!

Ladadadada

@MikeyB I just showed this to my colleague and he wanted to know who "Dwarf" was and who he was raping.

MikeyB

@Ladadadada Urist McRapist? Not one of the default dwarf names. :p

Aaron

16:06

abort: couldn't generate documentation: docutils module is missing
please install python-docutils or see http://docutils.sourceforge.net/

I hate unix sometimes

MikeyB

@Aaron did you do the:

sudo apt-get install build-essential mercurial pbuilder debootstrap devscripts debhelper ubuntu-dev-tools

or equiv? :)

Aaron

I don't have sudo

MikeyB

@Aaron sudo apt-get install sudo then.

2

Aaron

I mean, sudo as root access

MikeyB

@Aaron What are you running? ubuntu 11.04 by any chance?

Aaron

16:10

CentOS

MikeyB

@Aaron OK, have fun :)

Aaron

srsly

MikeyB

@Aaron yeah, might take a bit to find all the equivalent CentOS packages.

bmike

16:26

Just wanted to stop by the server side of things in case any of the mac admins haven't gotten the news of certs expiring today on software updates...

Ask Different Blog: Friday, March 23 could be the Ides of March for your SUS.

bmike on March 23, 2012

Yesterday, many Mac system administrators learned on Twitter of an urgent change arriving to their servers leaving less than 24 hours until the expiration day for Apple’s certificate used to sign updates. This change affects a tool that gets little fanfare and is deeply buried as one of 20+ items that Profile Manager can do. Although a Software Update Server (SUS) can normally set up once and mostly forgotten, but doing so can save money, conserve bandwidth, reduce support tickets, and make a company’s Macs more stable. …

Kyle Smith

Someone just upvoted an answer of mine from Oct '09.

84104

@KyleSmith Maybe it's still useful?

Kyle Smith

I'm sure it is.

MikeyB

@KyleSmith CTRL-Z! Hammer time!

Bart Silverstrim

rm -fr /

I seem to have forgotten what the easter egg is.

rm /

rm -f /

:-(

Iain

16:39

del /s/q

voretaq7

@BartSilverstrim -rf

-fr is the way to avoid triggering it :)

Bart Silverstrim

rm -rf /

Kyle Smith

rm -rf /

?

Bart Silverstrim

exit

Kyle Smith

pwd

ha

Bart Silverstrim

16:41

Whee!

Kyle Smith

rm -rf /

Bart Silverstrim

@voretaq7 I wondered where you disappeared to.

voretaq7

@BartSilverstrim w0rk w0rk w0rk

Bart Silverstrim

@voretaq7 But...it's friday.

voretaq7

well, today actually roughly-equal parts w0rk and plane-shopping

Bart Silverstrim

16:42

Although I'm heading out after a round of updates on a couple servers are done.

voretaq7

@BartSilverstrim updateUPDATEupdateUPDATEupdateUPDATEupdateUPDATE SERVICE PACK! SERVICE PACK!...

doesn't quite have the BadgerBadgerBadger ring to it.

Iain

@voretaq7 woodworking or flying ?

voretaq7

@Iain flying. I have all the woodworking tools I need at the moment.

(Though actually I could use a new blade for my wood plane)

Iain

@voretaq7 you got your ppl then ?

voretaq7

@Iain imminent with the cooperation of the weather gods. We're doing checkride prep & I have to fill in some solo XC time

Aaron

16:48

if I had the free time and money I'd look at some of the LSA

much less operating cost/hour

voretaq7

@Aaron the only LSA I can afford (that I'd want to fly) is a Cessna 150 - and I couldn't pack my fat-ass friends into one without going over gross :-/

Joel

I have a coworker (and friend) departing

voretaq7

the new LSAs are sweet aircraft though - 5-6 gal/hr at decent speeds & able to haul two actual people. Just Not $80-120K worth of sweet :-x

Peter Grace

@BartSilverstrim Rebecca counts as a dev, so, 1.

at least in my opinion rebecca is a dev

she wears a few hats.

Bart Silverstrim

Only one?

Peter Grace

16:53

Yep, only her as a dev.

lots of ladies work for SE, but only Rebecca would be considered a dev.

Bart Silverstrim

What do they work as? Sales? Community managers?

Peter Grace

sales, chaos and community.

stackexchange.com/about/team to see

had to fix the url :)

Bart Silverstrim

So do you know if you get interest from female "it" people or programmers?

...jeff atwood's still on the page. Aren't you going to remove him?...

Peter Grace

He's still a cofounder even if he doesn't actively work at SE

he's still on the board, for instance

Bart Silverstrim

Ah, thought he left.

Joel

16:57

@PeterGrace Women sure do love their accessories

Peter Grace

@BartSilverstrim he no longer directly makes day-to-day decisions.

That job is now filled by David Fullerton.

AKA, "Oh Captain My Captain"

Basil

Hey Pete, I finally remembered to email my editors asking if they knew anyone in or anything about the Blizzard ad buying machine.

Peter Grace

@Basil sweet, any breakthroughs?

MikeyB

17:19

Hey @voretaq7, know offhand if FreeBSD's ext3 driver would be entirely it's own implementation?

I'm just laying the smackdown on someone on SU talking out their ass.

Basil

@PeterGrace Nope, just sent the email at lunch. I generally don't check my wow emails from work, so I'll tell you Monday (or over the weekend if I see you)

Bart Silverstrim

@MikeyB oh? link?

Chris S

That's a negative. The following files contain at least some GPL code:
ext2_bitmap.c (in the cvs attic)
ext2_fs.h
ext2_fs_i.h
ext2_fs_sb.h
ext2_linux_balloc.c
ext2_linux_ialloc.c
ext2_super.c (in the cvs attic)
ext2_vfsops.c (has some GPL'ed code from ext2_super.c)
i386-bitops.h

FreeBSD's ext2/3/4 support is all called ext2 in the kernel AFAIK

MikeyB

2

A: Why Windows does not recognize files inside Linux installed partitions?

In addition to Windows simply not having support for Linux file systems, Microsoft cannot reasonably take on the responsibility of guaranteeing your data will be safe if they try to support them. For example (and completely hypothetical), say the ext4 team improves performance by recognizing a ne...

Peter Grace

@Basil Thanks! You can just toss me an e-mail when you hear something. That's generally the quickest way to get ahold of me asides from gtalk which hits my cellphone.

Basil

17:30

In front of my office:

MikeyB

@Basil Took me a second, but hah! Awesome.

Basil

@MikeyB I have a bad-ish cell-camera and a little bit of a shaky grip.

Peter Grace

@Basil nice eyelashes there, pretty boy.

:)

@Basil I'm a hair from 67. Do you know if you can queue for utgarde at 68 or do you have to wait till 70? I vaguely remmeber it being 70 back at the release of WOTLK

Basil

@PeterGrace That's not my car :P

Peter Grace

@Basil LIKELY STORY.

Basil

17:36

@PeterGrace IIRC you need to actually be 70. It sucked, and I was so tired of vanilla I ground random mobs for an hour to get there

Kyle Smith

I briefly thought we were talking about age.

Was going to say you look great for 68.

Basil

@PeterGrace This is kinda what my car looks like: images.gtcarlot.com/gtgallery/photo.php?id=31326683

Mine is much dirtier

Peter Grace

17:47

There is my new car.

2012 Kia Forte eco edition

It hauls ass, it's amazing. It's the best $20k I could have spent for a car I'm sure

Kyle Smith

"eco edition" = high MPG?

Peter Grace

37 highway says the sticker

I get 30-31 realistically but I drive between 80-90mph

so it's naturally gonna eat more gas.

Kyle Smith

ah

I'm getting closer and closer to picking up a used IS250, myself.

Joel

@PeterGrace I realized this when I got my Accord

Horsepower is still just power, that energy has to come from somewhere

Peter Grace

yep. I test drove the Kia Forte and the Kia Optima

the Optima is a very luxurious car, but it felt like I was towing something.

The Forte is extremely nimble, it sold me in the first 400 feet of the test drive.

I told the sales guy, I said "just close your eyes and pay no attention what I'm about to do to this vehicle" -- my wife was holding the jesus handle the whole time.

Luckily the sales guy knew me from our last car we bought (2012 Sorento) so he wasn't a jerk about it, but I got 'er right up to 90 on the local freeway and then took it in the back roads to see how it cornered and in every way I pushed it, the Forte was happy and wanted more.

Joel

17:53

@PeterGrace All of the software / systems people I know insist on a fast car. I can't find the root cause of this phenomenon, but it's pretty consistent

Peter Grace

My criteria was 1) good gas mileage 2) nimble

nimble because with my commute oftentimes I have to drive around the idiots in PA who go the speed limit in the left lane

the "overtaking lane" for the brits/canadians I think :)

PA has a campaign to try to get people to keep right except to pass but nobody seems to listen

Joel

@PeterGrace My solution for this is to make it legal to paintball their car until they move

Peter Grace

haha.

MikeyB

@PeterGrace :) Going more than 50kph over the limit here nets you a 10K fine and instant impoundment of your car. So in the left lane people are usually going between 130 and 149.9 when possible.

Peter Grace

10k in what currency?

Joel

18:00

@MikeyB In California it's a slap on the wrist. They know that if they let you off with a fine, they can just keep fining you forever for speeding

I would advocate paying a flat $2000 every year to the state of California for the right to speed and park wherever I want.

MikeyB

@PeterGrace $10K CAD ≅ $10K USD

Peter Grace

Wow.

That'd be a great way to get people to drive better in the US

MikeyB

@Joel It's the anti-street racing law. Which has led to some amusing results: canada.com/topics/news/national/… (Garbage truck nailed for street racing in Goderich)

Peter Grace

that's only 30mph over the speed limit

There's a stretch on US 1 that is 40mph during my commute

Any bets on how fast I'm going through that corridor?

Chris S

@PeterGrace ≥25 above the limit in MI is Wreakless Driving. It's a Felony charge. <25 over are various tickets starting at 1-4 (which caries no points, but has a fine). Street Racing requires a 2nd vehicle in MI.

jscott

18:10

In NY, 40+ over gets you 11 points, which is the lower threshold for revocation/suspension.

voretaq7

@Basil iLOL'd

@MikeyB $10K CAD = $10.2K USD. actually. The world is upside down :'(

@MikeyB Re: the FreeBSD EXT driver, I don't know but let me check something quick

Chris S

@voretaq7 All the more reason we should merge our currencies

Joel

@MikeyB I'm kind of amazed he got a garbage truck to haul ass

Chris S

@Joel That's only 70mph; not all that fast in the scheme of things.

voretaq7

@MikeyB Seems like it's gone from base in FreeBSD 8...

Chris S

18:18

@voretaq7 What's gone?

MikeyB

@ChrisS The ext2/3/4 driver?

Chris S

The kernel driver is still there, it's a module, not part of GENERIC.

The utilities are a port now, you have to install them separate.

voretaq7

@ChrisS The ext utilities

Chris S

57 secs ago, by Chris S

The utilities are a port now, you have to install them separate.

voretaq7

I was looking for the port - I didn't see a mount_ext* under e2fsprogs, is it somewhere else?

Chris S

18:22

I thought it was part of e2fsprogs....

voretaq7

@ChrisS I did too but I don't see it in the plist file.

Cool, the alma mater is hosting a presidential debate again.

Joel

I don't think my neckbeard is rugged enough for me to use a *BSD yet

voretaq7

"pride, politics & policy" -- someone really needs to stop with the lions/pride thing or I'mma have to buy a bunch of static cling pink triangles and go on a lion-raid again.

@Joel I'm eliminating the goatee again soon

Joel

@voretaq7 Aren't you afraid of getting fired?

Just saying - I don't trust a systems guy without a beard

voretaq7

@Joel I can keep a falsie in my drawer for emergencies :-)

Joel

18:26

@voretaq7 I may purchase one for conferences and job interviews.

Basil

@Joel Storage guys don't do beards. We do hats.

Joel

@Basil Oh my god you're right, why did I never realize this before

Basil

@Joel Actually...

voretaq7

@Basil h4x0r?

Basil

@voretaq7 Better. And worse. St0r@g3.

I'd fuck with a hacker over a storage guy any day.

MikeyB

18:31

@Basil xkcd is oneboxed, you know:

Aaron

xkcd is oneboxed?

voretaq7

Note that this implies you should NOT honk solely because I stopped for a pedestrian and you're behind me.

@Aaron of course.

I like todays

Am I terrible for laughing?

MikeyB

@voretaq7 I laughed.

Basil

I do now.

MikeyB

@voretaq7 Oohhh, that's chat msg # 3939000… you should get a prize or something

Aaron

18:33

@voretaq7, no, you would be terrible if you asked this:

10

Q: Is "iff" considered a real word or just an abbreviation?

I wonder if "iff" is considered a real word (as LEO says) or is it just an abbreviation (as in Wiktionary)?

voretaq7

@MikeyB ... A kitten?!?

Chris S

@MikeyB Is 393-9000 someone's phone number?

MikeyB

@Aaron Hmmm… I've been saying 'if and only if' to my two-year old… you mean people don't normally talk like that?

Chris S

My phone number is a message in the English chatroom. =]

l0c0b0x

@l0c0b0x "I want you to find a program that goes out and creates an accurate diagram of our network". :|

accurate

MDMarra

18:38

@l0c0b0x They're called interns

MikeyB

@l0c0b0x That's easy: travelblog.org/Photos/2426791

Joel

@l0c0b0x I love this question. I show them the diagram and they're like "But this doesn't tell me which computer is in which room!"

@MikeyB 403

voretaq7

@MikeyB I do.

@Aaron <wades in to ELU with a comment on pronunciation>

Joel

@voretaq7 Would you agree that someone with sloppy orthography makes for a poor systems person

l0c0b0x

@MikeyB I can't believe I clicked on that [next time, please note NSFW] :)

jscott

18:42

@Joel But if your switch ports and station drops were numbered...

MDMarra

@l0c0b0x How is that NSFW?

Joel

@jscott Or if I was allowed to implement VLANS...

MikeyB

@l0c0b0x Looking at [REDACTED] isn't allowed in your workplace?

Aaron

@l0c0b0x I only figured out it was (insert unicode symbol that voretaq likes here ) after looking at the description

MikeyB

@Aaron 1F4A9

voretaq7

18:43

not universally. I'm sloppy myself in informal contexts.
When writing something formal I would say sloppy orthography makes a poor professional in any field.

@MikeyB poo!

@Aaron And I prefer 🐼 ThankYouVeryMuch

qroberts

Quick question, can I remotely make a machine 'gpupdate /force' through AD or something?

voretaq7

new south park song update for the 21st century / The Comms Room: "Sexual Harassment Unicode Panda"

jscott

@qroberts Can you just use psexec?

qroberts

@jscott Didn't think of that, thanks!

jscott

technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553

qroberts

18:46

Yeah I am familiar with sysinternals tools :)

Iain

19:01

@Basil mind if I migrate that to mSO - that's where it should have gone to start with ?

Basil

19:17

@Iain Go for it- I actually assumed that there was only one meta and it was for everything

Jeff Ferland

Can you imagine if the WWII job postings were like tech jobs today? "Must have 3 years experience cracking Enigma while standing on your head." Of course, Enigma would be un-cracked at this time

TylerShads

@JeffFerland You forgot about the offers that ask you to provide 25 war references, vouching that you've been in wars past.

voretaq7

@Basil! Why you stir shit?

damn rabble rousers! RabbleRabbleRabble!

Basil

19:34

@voretaq7 I assumed it would be pretty straightforward...

Joel

@TylerShads And you'll work for medals alone, so you can show your next general how good of a soldier you are

Basil

Does a meta downvote mean that you don't like the feature being requested or proposed, or that you think it's badly written?

Joel

@Basil yes

voretaq7

@Basil You are a rabble rouser, you know that? You rouse rabbles!

Basil

@voretaq7 I don't participate in meta much because "it's not my problem" and "I can't help you" are hard habits to kick.

voretaq7

19:38

@Basil that's perfectly acceptable on Meta.

voretaq7

19:51

►

dear. god.

Joel

There we go

TylerShads

@voretaq7 why did I read that as "blind" instead of blond

voretaq7

@TylerShads perhaps if she were blind she could visualize the problem?

TylerShads

@voretaq7 oh of course

voretaq7

Standard Question: Is she a natural blonde? Because I suppose inhaling too much peroxide COULD do that to someones brain...

TylerShads

19:54

@voretaq7 I think that's the reason my gf dyes her hair black..she is a natural blond

oh the gems I have...

Joel

@TylerShads I'm waiting

TylerShads

"You mean they dont put the medicine in the glasses?" (in reference to how corrective lenses work) "How do you spell left?" "isn't washington in maryland?" (In reference to seeing awashington state plate.

Joel

@TylerShads I'm trying to laugh as quietly as possible. It's not working

TylerShads

@Joel imagine how I feel, I'm dating her.

...oh wait, I laugh anyway and post it to all my friends regardless xD

Joel

@TylerShads It can cause serious rifts. Once I pissed off a girlfriend with the ol' "Why are manhole covers round" thing

She couldn't figure it out. I told her "Because manholes are round."

TylerShads

19:58

its worth it, she doesn't get mad, surprisingly

Joel

Meanwhile she's trying to prove that a round cover won't fall in, a square one is dangerous, etc

jscott

@TylerShads That's what happens when you truly don't understand something.

voretaq7

@Joel …sigh

Kyle Smith

When she was younger my girlfriend once coined the ever-repeated "Wait, that necklace you bought me is metal? You told me it was white gold!"

voretaq7

@KyleSmith …

Kyle Smith

20:02

Yep.

Joel

@KyleSmith rightly able to apprehend, confusion of ideas, etc

MikeyB

@KyleSmith My first reaction was "That necklace is SO METAL!" *demonface*

Kyle Smith

\m/ o.o \m/

Jeff Ferland

Ah-hahahhaha odesk.com/jobs/…

Kyle Smith

Math pop-quiz. How quick do I have to do this in order to earn $35/hr?

8 minutes?

Jeff Ferland

20:10

@KyleSmith Dont' forget the time you spend talking about the job

Kyle Smith

I wish I still had a mirror of the job posting in my local craigslist.

7+ years admin exp. Exp with Exchange, DAS, branch office configurations, hardware deployment, blah blah blah.

"$20-35k DOE"

I should have mirrored it, I almost shit myself.

MikeyB

@JeffFerland It's nice to clear and legible postings that look like some of our questions: odesk.com/jobs/networking_~~86cf3792ead9e951?tot=243&pos=7

@KyleSmith DOE?

Kyle Smith

"Depending on Experience"

Lucas Kauffman

kills munin with fire

MikeyB

Good weekend everyone, I'm off!

Kyle Smith

20:13

How is Munin?

Joel

@MikeyB Enjoy!

Kyle Smith

@MikeyB Have a good weekend!

Joel

@LucasKauffman Is that your munin or someone else's?

Lucas Kauffman

@Joel mine, suddenly it stopped graphing I started debugging it, then apache starts to give me 403's on it

and I don't know WHY

voretaq7

@KyleSmith Dead. In a fire, apparently.

Joel

20:16

@LucasKauffman Don't know much about how munin works. Filesystem permissions?

Lucas Kauffman

@Joel checked them, I think it's because I use aptitude and another guy uses apt, it's broken the packages. I first did aptitude install munin, it gave already installed, then used apt-get install munin and it started downloading packages and installing

what the hell ?

Joel

@LucasKauffman TRIPWIRE. Someone's been mucking about

Aaron Copley

Just wasted the entire day building an RPM. :( Couldn't for the life of me figure out why it wouldn't install. Then, I had an epiphany... I was installing (with sudo) from a root-squashed NFS home directory. FFFFFFFUUUUU

Jeff Ferland

20:35

@KyleSmith reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rahg8/…

@AaronCopley 8 hours, eh?

:D

Aaron Copley

@JeffFerland Well, minus typical sysadmin interuptions so really only about an hour and a half. :P

Joel

@AaronCopley Are you excluding time spent in here?

Aaron Copley

Unfortunately, that hasn't been very much today.

Lucas Kauffman

bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17491344 <--- ouch!

3

Jeff Ferland

@LucasKauffman LMAO

Aaron Copley

20:41

LOOOOOLLLL

Jeff Ferland

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Peter Grace

If you guys are into turntable.fm, a few of us from stackexchange are dj'ng

turntable.fm/4f6cd600590ca222480007a0

Lucas Kauffman

20:58

►

he knows how to drive lol

@PeterGrace Mix Master Big P.G ?

Peter Grace

haha, something like that.

Lucas Kauffman

@PeterGrace We're very sorry, but while we would love to let you in and rock out with us, we need to currently restrict turntable access to only the United States due to licensing constraints.

:'(

Peter Grace

@LucasKauffman aww :(

Jeff Ferland

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voretaq7

@LucasKauffman tor. you needs it.

Lucas Kauffman

21:00

@JeffFerland the theme song's original is from Trigun :p

Peter Grace

@KyleBrandt what's crackalackin?

Zypher

@PeterGrace gah why the HELL do people think it's a good idea to only let you log in w/ social networks

Kyle Brandt

Watching the daily show and drinking wine :-P

84104

@KyleBrandt I envy your life.

Peter Grace

@KyleBrandt Fuck Yeah!

Kyle Brandt

21:02

In other words, calling it a day and waiting for the wife

Peter Grace

I'm rockin out to this music and listening to the devs haggle on redis stuff.

Kyle Brandt

Seems silly to haggle, one key per one value would seem the only fair trade

Lucas Kauffman

@PeterGrace you make me a mix on mp3 and post it on the soundcloud yes ?

Peter Grace

@LucasKauffman you select songs and it plays them.

sorta like a collaborative spotify

Kyle Brandt

@LucasKauffman: Site seem any faster for you today?

Lucas Kauffman

21:04

ow so I can select a song to?

@KyleBrandt yes why :p?

Joel

@Zypher Seconding this x100

Peter Grace

@KyleBrandt @LucasKauffman rock on

Kyle Brandt

We increased the initial congestion window to 10 , idea from one of our Devs Sam Saffron

(Thats right, our Devs think about TCP ;-) )

Lucas Kauffman

cool :p

Joel

@KyleBrandt That's awesome, our devs are like "Can't you just overclock the router"

Peter Grace

21:06

If you guys were unaware, we employ some EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT people.

Kyle Brandt

cdnplanet.com/blog/tune-tcp-initcwnd-for-optimum-performance

Joel

@PeterGrace CONFLICT OF INTEREST

Peter Grace

haha, I'm not. I'm a sysadmin.

We're stupid.

:P

Kyle Brandt

@LucasKauffman: Basically, at the start of the request we send more packets before waiting for an ACK now. Basically, we bypass bandwidth delay product ramp up

Joel

@KyleBrandt You UDP'd TCP. Bitchin

Kyle Brandt

21:08

Assuming the client accepts that

Lucas Kauffman

@KyleBrandt cool, I had some troubles the other day with slow loading, but I thought it was the Great Turkish Firewall that got congested :p

Kyle Brandt

We had some issues over the past week or so

Mistakes on our end, some DoS etc.. was never the same thing for what we could see

voretaq7

@KyleBrandt networks are dynamic. It's never the same thing, even when it is.

Bastardizing your congestion control is a cool way of getting around the slow-start problem though :-)

Lucas Kauffman

I've also got a feeling there's been a lot of attention lately to serverfault, more questions (also bad ones)

Kyle Brandt

Going to try a little more tweaking around there. Increase the HTTP keepalive time, turn off slow start after idle

We get screwed with SF, don't know what the deal is

Joel

21:12

@KyleBrandt Cosmic rays, bit rot, the usual voodoo

Kyle Brandt

Joel

@KyleBrandt What are those holes in the trend?

Kyle Brandt

We keep getting knocked down :-P

Google being mean

And the Xmas drops, but those are just short term drops

Joel

@KyleBrandt I'm pretty sure I was on SF on Christmas. hahaha

Kyle Brandt

@Joel: I probably checked it too :-P But most traffic is anonymous in the SE network

People finding answers via Google

Lucas Kauffman

21:18

@KyleBrandt btw have you guys been experimenting with spdy yet?

Kyle Brandt

Sam has been looking it a little. Everything is behind a HAProxy, so will probably play with it once someone works it into haproxy

@Chopper3: How things been going for you?

Chopper3

good thanks kyle, happier, less stressful :)

Kyle Brandt

Some change in your life?

Chopper3

yeah, not a mod

Kyle Brandt

Oh right of course :-)

That was a while ago

Chopper3

21:27

just back from taking 7 teenage girls to see 'The Hunger Games'

Kyle Brandt

Can't fault you, mod never appealed to me

Joel

@Chopper3 Sounds like a noisy experience.

Kyle Brandt

My wife read all 3 of those on vacation the other week

Chopper3

nah, they're bookish types

Kyle Brandt

I started to listen to one on audiobook, didn't really grab me

Chopper3

21:28

the film's so much more subtle and oppressive than I'd imagined from the synopsis - much better than I'd imagined

Joel

@KyleBrandt I haven't read fiction in close to a decade now. Some part of me has this deep sense of guilt about it, but I guess I'd rather DO fun things than read about them.

voretaq7

@Chopper3 On a scale of 1-10 (1 being Titanic, 10 being The Matrix or something better) how worth seeing is it?

Chopper3

my scale's more McG (1) to PTA (10) - but say a good 5 to 6

voretaq7

@Chopper3 my scale varies depending on my mood and how much I want to see Leonardo DiCaprio's frozen corpse pushed off a board to sink into the ocean :-)

Chopper3

funny, my favourite film in a long time was the Muppets

voretaq7

21:35

well who the fuck doesn't like Muppets?!?

(Seriously. Who? Bring them here and I'll stab them!)

Joel

@Chopper3 My pet favorite film is The Thing, John Carpenter version

Chopper3

love that too

Joel

It stars Kurt Russell as a drunken helicopter pilot that burns an alien shape-shifter to death with a flamethrower in the arctic. WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE

l0c0b0x

Is it me, or does it feel like Tuesday?

Lucas Kauffman

@l0c0b0x it's FRIDAY FRIDAY

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