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Zoredache

21:01

@KyleSmith That could be made to work properly, but I doubt he has set it up right.

Zoredache

21:12

Does anyone have a good generic reference for the HP Procure CLI that I can reference? A Google search keeps bringing up lots of PDFs for specific models.

Adrian

21:24

@LucasKauffman Alas, that's about the only way I can keep up with my family. Aside from my children, I don't have any family within 1000 miles.

Iain

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A: Manually clear saved question drafts

For those fastidious about clearing drafts (for whatever reason) this will be avaible in the next build. Also available on answer drafts

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain do you know how you can type a "tag" in chat?

Iain

tag ?

Lucas Kauffman

yea :p

Iain

use [tag:tag-name]

Lucas Kauffman

21:33

linux

ooh nice

0

Q: what is giving me a backwards IP address?

This is the background: http://superuser.com/questions/400298/cause-of-intermittent-smtp-emailing-sending-problems In short Outlook (2007 IIRC) was receiving the wrong IP address for the SMTP server domain - it turned out that the address was backwards. Any ideas why? Using tcpview (from sysint...

Iain

there is also tag [meta-tag:tag]

Lucas Kauffman

:o

is there a page with all these chat shortcuts somewhere?

or is it scattered around meta?

Iain

documentation ? for SE ? hahahahaahah

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Lucas Kauffman

:(

I'll make a post about that on meta

Iain

@LucasKauffman documentation ?

Lucas Kauffman

21:37

@Iain yea

well just the chat than

Iain

@LucasKauffman if you do, put it on mSO

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain sometimes you guys also manage to quote someone from a question

and then it gets a line next to it

how do you do that?

Iain

> test > test

Lucas Kauffman

yea

or how do you escape things?

Iain

` `

Lucas Kauffman

21:40

@Iain well how do you draw the line :p?

Iain

> text

Lucas Kauffman

with escaping I mean you gave me the syntax of tag, but it didn't make a tag it just showed the syntax

> muahaha

Kenny Rasschaert

Thanks for the accept @Zoredache

Lucas Kauffman

ow nice

Iain

@LucasKauffman I just put that in code tags ` `

Lucas Kauffman

21:41

[tag:blaat]

are those backticks?

Iain

they are backticks just like on the main site

Lucas Kauffman

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Q: Is there a page that contains all the shortcuts for chat?

Is there a page that contains all the shortcuts for chat? For instance, in chat you can use tag with: [tag:tag-name] or the > character or the use of backticks. There must be a lot more cool tricks you can do in chat, but there seems to be no documentation about that?

discussion support

there you go

chat.stackexchange.com/faq#formatting

Kenny Rasschaert

we might make that question useful by adding undocumented features

sudo

su -

dmesg

bsod

damnit, there was some undocumented chat easter egg for SF chat

i forgot what it is

Rob Moir

rm -rf

Iain

rm -rf /

Kenny Rasschaert

21:49

that's the one

go ahead and answer

Lucas Kauffman

rm -rf /

ls

Kenny Rasschaert

free meta points

Lucas Kauffman

uhoh

bsod

Rob Moir

friendship-is-magic

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how about that..

never knew how to do tags

84104

hostname is -f solaris -_-

voretaq7

22:01

@KennyRasschaert mrr?

tombull89

22:11

there's also

del /s

WesleyDavid

@tombull89 I click your avatar, but you still have the same reputation. What a rip off.

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Kenny Rasschaert

@84104 i ran a script on a bunch of production database servers, that amongst other things asked each server what the short hostname was

"hey kenny why are all the hostnames set to -s?"

meanwhile the monitoring system was having a heart attack

...silly solaris

84104

22:35

Good news: new mta's logs have postfix/smtpd and postfix/submission/smtpd. Bad news: it can't talk to one of the mailbox servers.

Adrian

Am I losing my mind? Does Debian not have a default place to store its iptables rules?

freiheit

@Adrian I think there's a package with a name I can't recall that'll do what you want...

Adrian

@freiheit I was thinking so, but wondering if I was confused since Ubuntu 9.10 also simply runs wide open by default.

iptables-persistent

Joel

support.microsoft.com/kb/931857/en-us

I find this bug hilarious

Adrian

And I hate the fact that the MS KB disables crap in their page simply because I visit it from a Linux box.

84104

22:42

@Adrian Hmm? It's working fine under my Chromium as far as I can tell.

Joel

@Adrian Internet racism

84104

@Adrian "This article applies to a different operating system than the one you are using. Article content that may not be relevant to you is disabled." ?

Adrian

@84104 yep.

@Joel I'm very offended. I've even complained to the team lead for MSDN. A friend of a friend.

84104

@Adrian Spinning up vm to see what it says to Win7x64Ent

Adrian

Ffffffffffffffffffuh. This Debian iptables rabbit hole led me to sneak into the Dev's production environment to see what their iptables is set to. ACCEPT, ACCEPT, ACCEPT.

Joel

22:46

@Adrian Real men install iptables and don't add any rules

84104

@Joel If a protocol needs firewalls to protect it, it's a bad protocol.

freiheit

@84104 They're all bad protocols.

84104

I should say service.

@freiheit This is probably true.

Adrian

@84104 Well, if you figure out a replacement for HTTPS, let me know. I'll pitch it to management. =)

Joel

The real answer is, only bind to localhost

Then get a really big reverse-KVM

problem solved

Adrian

22:49

I suppose this explains the whole not installing any non-essential packages logic. It's probably a good idea if you're accepting all traffic from everwhere.

Joel

@Adrian I've seen the weirdest, most exotic exploits

from directions you would never guess

(friends are penetration testers)

Adrian

Of course, if they see 'iptables -L -nv' in the root history, my ass is going to be grass. The DBA knows I'm the only one in the building who knows what those options mean.

freiheit

@Adrian Let's replace all the protocols with HTTPS!

Joel

@Adrian history -c

Adrian

@Joel I'd believe. I went to school with some really twisty dudes way back when.

Joel

22:51

@Adrian Are they doing infosec now?

or doing time? hahaha

Adrian

@Joel I'd have to explain that. The staff over there all log in to that server as root to do code commits since that box isn't on NIS. They use their history all the time.

Joel

@Adrian Their history as root

Adrian

@Joel Some of them have rather oddly disappeared.

Joel

@Adrian Somewhere in the NSA, a man is watching a computer screen, wanting to MITM some shit and say ADRIAN WHAT'S UP DUDE

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but instead he clicks away as his eyes brim with tears

Adrian

@Joel Wouldn't surprise me. That school does have one of the few Grad-level IT Admin programs extant.

Adrian

23:12

One of our more busybody-prone Sups just spent a week and 40-50 staff hours trying to get our org-wide document access policy re-written. Once we got down to details behind WHY, we were slightly appalled.

You see, they wanted to open up their client data folders to just about everyone in their division. And they were being VERY cagey about why.

We say no good reason for it and enlisted some allies to shut that down. And when we started getting stubborn about it, someone slipped and divulged their motivation behind it.

All this was because they wanted to be able to share that remote office's annual staff photo with everyone. And they didn't want to put it anywhere that they don't put their own documents on a daily basis, so that they wouldn't forget where they put it.

Joel

@Adrian :D

Adrian

Never. Ever. Work with Social Workers.

Granted, I'm dating one, but at least she has a real-world applicable business degree.

Mark Henderson

23:34

@Adrian I couldn't do it. My wife is a registered nurse and I hear enough depressing stories from her

I cna only imagine social workers have even more depressing stories. At least my wife's usually end up with someone being dead which in a way is sweet release from these peoples problems

Adrian

@MarkHenderson Yeah, We're usually the ones taking care of them on the way down. Thankfully, a few get turned around and sorted out. Enough to maintain a little bit of hope. But frankly, I think most of the social workers working with the homeless are even crazier than the clients.

Mark Henderson

@Adrian They say the same thing about people who work in mental health, and I guess social work is a large part of mental health

Adrian

@MarkHenderson Actually, MH is a big part of what we do here. And they are the most high-maintenance group we deal with.

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