burn

@ScottPack non community members get pinged when a message is flagged.

Also, I flagged it because it was really a message in poor taste. Just saying.

Nothing against @Iain , if it got mod flagged it'd have ended worse probably.

That's generally why I just ignore any flags for rooms (or rooms for sites) that I don't participate in. Keeps me from attempting to apply community standards to communities I don't know the standards of.

>_>

@ScottPack I completely agree, which is why I raised the issue on meta.stackexchange a year ago. Lemme find it

lol

As did I at some point

Yeah, that issue been raised so many times it hurts.

and I still think its messy

@BenjaminGruenbaum: Its worse when someone comes in, and decides to flag random stuff that was Ok in the room in general

Oooo! Yeah. That really chaps my goat.

(happened to @bob. bob of all people. He's like the second or third least likely person to get suspended ;p)

I honestly came in here for no reason other than to star Iain's message. Snide remarks regarding the flag system in here is mostly reflexive.

lol

@JourneymanGeek yes and no, there are some base standards in all the rooms in the network. In the JS room we cross that line a lot but we try :P

Well, I felt that was inflammatory in an already inflammatory situation.

It was (the message), honestly from the outside it looks like that thing blew out of proportion. I have no idea why it wasn't dealt with in private.

Its a bit of a mess.

@JourneymanGeek I honestly swear more at work than in chat. Not that swearing should be a suspendable offense. Or an offense at all.

I agree!

Actually, my boss does more than me.

lol

I grew up in excessively polite company

@Bob in the JS room our first and pretty much only rule is "don't be a dick" so swearing is fine as long as it's not aimed towards an individual that'd take offense.

if I start swearing, things are bad

@BenjaminGruenbaum That's exactly my stance.

The act of swearing shouldn't be the issue. Only if it's directed at someone else.

but in general, if you're a regular, you should/can probably ask nicely first ;p

Like today, another user told me they'll be spending the evening with my mother and I informed them that their grandma has to stop bothering me on tinder - since we're both consenting adults that's fine since we're friends. If that got flagged and I'd get suspended for 30 minutes I wouldn't have much of a case but it wasn't really bothering anyone.

Hey, I'm at work, and well, my boss is going to look at me funny if I have a sidebar full of swearwords and bottles of lube ...

On the other hand, when a user came to the room and started telling other users to perform sexual acts on themselves and implied they enjoy having sex with mothers they got kicked pretty quickly and flagged :)

@BenjaminGruenbaum pretty much

Jeebus. I disappear to fiddle with Excel for like 45 seconds and my screen fills up!

lol

Yes, people talking. Hasn't happened in a while ;p

I have to say I'm seriously surprised that you guys campaign for mod by saying you will be snarky :P

(not sure why I'm still here actually, its usually quiet)

lol

That was an unusual case

Huh, it's already been half a year since The Great Exodus?

pretty much

@JourneymanGeek I keep the tab open, but honestly haven't checked it in a while.

@Bob oh, I think every room had one of those at a point. Did you guys make your own chat too?

@Bob: Its in my favourites

@BenjaminGruenbaum --- v

I did set up a backup one a few days back, though.

lol

TCR? Happened

(oh wait, wrong chatroom - I'm referring to RA)

TCR already did its thing :P

haha

@BenjaminGruenbaum Pretty much yeah. As good a chat system as this software is we wanted a place to have a community that wasn't intrinsically tied to SEI, even if that's where we mostly met.

We did that at a point, but we came back eventually, took careful work

@ScottPack 'cept now you're tied to another company :P

@Bob: I was evaluating a few things for a self hosted site B ;p

Is this room FOR 'Live Support'? How do I install ubuntu on my computer I want to be l33t.

kandan looks decent but needs editing, and a starwall

Wait, do kids these days still say l33t? What's the terminology these days?

lol

no idea

Hmm, I can do better. Gimme a minute

@JourneymanGeek Anything ever come of it?

I guess something XMPP-based is an option.

can u guys help me hack my friends fb?

^ better?

@Bob what's wrong with IRC?

@BenjaminGruenbaum No, you want the security room.

@BenjaminGruenbaum A tad too basic? shrug

Also doesn't lend itself too well to a chat history, which can be useful.

I dunno. I don't really have anything against IRC.

@Bob: Oh, seemed ok other than those things

@BenjaminGruenbaum: Done IRC a few times ;p

@Bob name one thing the SE chat does that a room on irc.freenode doesn't do? I use IRCCloud as a client which is as much work as the SE chat.

@ScottPack lol

@BenjaminGruenbaum: Editing, starwall

Oneboxing. Reply threads.

Also, I was messing with... erm..

kiwi irc?

Seemed decent

Reply threads is really the one feature that I really find missing in Slack.

yup

@ScottPack Gitter has them! :D

Oh, and markdown (or other simple formatting) support. That helps.

A proper star wall would be cool, but it's mostly fun as opposed to a real productivity enhancement.

We use HipChat for work. I really miss markdown.

PHP room people also built one

ugh

@BenjaminGruenbaum Huh, that's really nice.

Probably better to re-write it in perl/cgi.

@ScottPack Does it have any kind of formatting/markup?

errr.

I looked at that

@Bob Not especially.

@Bob we used it for a week, we like the stream of new users from SO, even if it's really noisy.

JIRA already causes enough problems with formatting -_-

@BenjaminGruenbaum Yea, that's where TCR's move was pretty successful, and why I don't really want to do the same for RA.

can't remember why I didn't try it, probably lack of install docs at the time?

@Bob: RA's core userbase is still pretty happy with SU tho

@ScottPack: we use XMPP/openfire/pidgin at work

anything externally hosted would be a pain, cause of security restrictions

@JourneymanGeek RA isn't as active as TCR was. It also really is a place for "live support" :P

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. For the interpreting staff we use Openfire/Spark for much the same reason.

lol

true

Well, not really

@JourneymanGeek Still nice to have a backup option, though, considering how SE treats chat and has reacted to RA in the past (see: bot). We weren't exactly happy with SE at that point.

yup

@JourneymanGeek Also, it's nice to have privacy for some things...

@BenjaminGruenbaum I rarely swear (I'm well known around these parts for disliking it). If I do swear, things are bad, if I swear at people things are worse.

Guys, need a bit of advice. I want to setup a linux mailserver for my local network, which is on VirtualBox VMs at my home PC. I can do it with Postfix. But few things come up. As I know that setting up mailserver in windows needs a domain and AD, what is the requirement in linux. After testing at home I want to set it up in my org(windows based) for sending automated mails. Then on some internet(linux) machines to receive some automated reports from them. All will be different setups.

@Bob: yup

There's some stuff I'd prefer not to discuss on open chat at times ;p