The Comms Room

pauska

12:48

meep meep

Rajat

14:29

GM !!

:D

baumgart

Morning.

sysadmin1138

gmorning.

Rajat

any one can help on centos fresh installation yum update is not work cent os 5.5

baumgart

What errors are you getting?

Rajat

following one

[root@yeswedeal ~]# yum updateLoaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/%24releasever/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: base. Please verify its path and try again

baumgart

14:31

Is the system able to connect out to the internet?

Rajat

ya

baumgart

Try 'yum clean all' and then 'yum update' again

Rajat

ok

no same error [root@yeswedeal yum.repos.d]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[root@yeswedeal yum.repos.d]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Determining fastest mirrors
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/%24releasever/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: base. Please verify its path and try again
[root@yeswedeal yum.repos.d]#

baumgart

Any extra info in the logs? /var/log/yum...whatever the file/dir is?

Rajat

i m looking at that only

just in min i'll paste

baumgart

14:34

ok

sysadmin1138

That error looks pretty clear. I'd try browsing that URL from the box. w3m is text-mode browser. I've had cases where the openSUSE repos (also YUM based) are actually missing a critical file, which will trigger that.

Rajat

yum.log "0"

Chris S

:2860 Who needs a text browser; it comes up 404 on my computer, the file is missing.

baumgart

I'm powering up my fresh 5.5 VM to see if I get the same issue.

Or there's that...

Chris S

They probably updated something this morning and it got missed; I'm sure they'll have it fixed before long; or you can try contacting the maintainers.

Rajat

14:37

:2869 i have firefox

and it is work

i can google from there

baumgart

It's working for me...

sysadmin1138

If you really need it right now, start mirror-hunting to see who does have the file, and configure Centos to pull directly from there. Set it back to mirror.centos when done.

Chris S

Must be one of the mirrors doesn't have it yet...

Rajat

same issues posted at cent os also

but no one has right info on the same

baumgart

My system has no problem updating

Rajat

14:38

i dont know i m facing 1st time this kind of issues

elinks i can browse the serverfault.com

i have # all the mirror in my .repo file at /etc/yum.repos.d

Rajat

14:59

:2877 thanks a ton /var/cache/yum/extras/mirrorlist.txt file was missising

sysadmin1138

Spiffy!

Coding Gorilla

So, anyone using the new IE9 beta?

Biglig

15:16

Just installed it. Very minimalist!

baumgart

Never thought I'd hear that about IE...

Biglig

Well, there's about 2Gb of code to make it minimalist... :-)

Coding Gorilla

The reason I was asking is I've seen a couple of the SF question toasts come up (in IE9), but they're empty

Coding Gorilla

I have it in compat mode, wiating to see if that fixes it

pauska

Hm, what's the difference between the Beta and the Platform Review?

Biglig

15:25

Apparently, Platform Preview installs the new rendering engine side by side with IE8 for developers.

Biglig

That's my reading of ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/…

Biglig

While the Beta is a beta of the whole browser.

Biglig

That's rather a good idea, actually.

Biglig

Hmm, must be be nice to Microsoft day. ;-)

Izzy

Minimal... so they copied Chromes visual ethos? :)

That just leaves Firefox to become more minimal. Firefox is so ugly to look at

Chris S

15:40

I like FF with the Tiny Menu add-on: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1455

Izzy

@ChrisS are you on FF now?

Jeff Miles

I'm really enjoying IE9. I really like the add-on analyzer in IE9 that looks at the load times of your add ons and lets you see what's slowing it down. The ability to break away tabs into new windows or other windows is great too.

Chris S

:2915 Yep

Izzy

@ChrisS Can you do me a favour? Could you try the Acid3 test and let me know what score you get? acidtests.org

Chris S

94

Izzy

15:43

Shame, not fully standards compliant

IE8 gets 14

Chrome... 100 :)

Strange though - my FF only gets 69 - update time

Chris S

v3.6.10 here

baumgart

I didn't expect Safari to hit 100 on Acid3...

Chris S

My IE8 hit 20.

Izzy

@ChrisS wierd... 3.6.3 here

now downloading 3.6.6

Chris S

Wow, that's a few months old. I've got mine set to auto-update; just installed 3.6.10 today.

Izzy

15:48

For some reason it won't update internally

Rajat

100 for me using FF on MAC

Izzy

Raj - what does Safari on MAc get?

baumgart

Safari on Mac gets 100.

Safari 5.0.2

Rajat

let me check that out

Izzy

@ChrisS Yep, 94 now on 3.6.10

Chris S

15:52

I'm not too worried about it, I'm sure they'll keep improving it.. Isn't the 4.0 beta out, or something like that"?

Rajat

i m using 5.0 Safari i got 100

Izzy

Yeah - FF 4b gets 95 :/

Rajat

i got 2 diff system the same for both the system i have diff ISP i got 100

Izzy

It's all just willy waving anyway - only browsers that are 100% Acid3 compliant are Opera, Chrome, and Safari

Raj - it's not a connection based test - it's a browser standards compliance test - which is why IE does so badly at it

Rajat

ok i was not knowing that bcoz i was thinking may it is coming from cache so i try on 2 diff system thanks for you update :D

Izzy

15:57

Acid3 is a test page from the Web Standards Project that checks how well a web browser follows certain selected elements from web standards, especially relating to the Document Object Model (DOM) and JavaScript.

Rajat

On SF i normally learning every some thing or other with you all guys are very good teach !

sysadmin1138

Oog, I'm one upvote away from earning my first gold badge. It's like waiting for my SAT scores to come back.

dances like a mad thing

Kyle Brandt

16:12

Dammit someone beat me to that upvote ...

I was holding back to give the 100th one too :-(

WHO WAS IT!?

Chris S

:2950 Link?

sysadmin1138

is still dancing

108

A: How do you search for back doors from previous IT?

It's really, really, really hard. It requires a very complete audit. If you're very sure the old person left something behind that'll go boom, or require their re-hire because they're the only one who can put a fire out, then it's time to assume you've been rooted by a hostile party. Treat it lik...

Chris S

Done

sysadmin1138

This might call for a celebratory Mocha.

Rajat

party time !!

sysadmin1138

16:16

Dang phone call spoiling my groove.

Stupid work.

Chris S

The Fanatic badge isn't hard to get with a bit of persistence.... Of course the Great Answer badge is more meaningful if you ask me.

sysadmin1138

Fanatic is hard if you have a certain thing that occurs once a month that keeps you away from the internet for 36 hours.

Chris S

I think they should changed the threshold of the Great Answer/Question badges because SF don't get near as many votes as they do on SO. Same with SU really.

sysadmin1138

Wow. 4 of the 10 'Great Answer' awards were for answers on the "Coolest Server Name" question.

Chris S

:2969 yeah, kinda sad really.

l0c0b0x

16:29

I thought 'community wiki' posts were considered 'posts' and not 'answers' (oO)

sysadmin1138

Yeah... that one didn't start CW IIRC, so things may be weird with it.

Chris S

CW Questions/Answers don't count toward rep, but do count toward badges the same as any other question/answer.

pauska

16:44

I gotta say, I'm impressed by IE9

fast and uber lightweight

lets see if it can save sessions now..

nope, it still cant save tabs like firefox does

I wonder why

Coding Gorilla

The new "tabs" page remembers sites you visit a lot, not the same but it's an interesting idea

Darren Kopp

hey, if i'm a linux nub, what distro would you anyone recommend for installing postgresql? something stable and easy to use

Warner

I've come close to Fanatic nearly twice. It's hard if you don't want to glue your ass to a computer 24/7/365, which I already do and it's still hard. My honeymoney ruined the first one. I was staying in a resort that didn't have phones, clocks, or Internet access.

Coding Gorilla

@DarrenKopp: I prefer openSUSE myself, I think YAST is great

Kyle Brandt

I enjoy getting badges but for some reason they have never motivated me

I never have tried to get one

Warner

16:52

Ah, just something to do, @Kyle. There's not many more milestones left. I make personal goals, like exceeding number 14 on page one.

Darren Kopp

:2987 openSUSE is the novell one right?

Coding Gorilla

basically, openSUSE is still open source tho

Kyle Brandt

@Warner: Beat Evan ;-)

Darren Kopp

:2992 great, thanks!

Coding Gorilla

:2994 np

Warner

16:54

I intentionally don't set goals like that, @Kyle. As that would be something that would create a negative impact on my life. I try to reserve that sort of dedication to things that serve larger visions.

Kyle Brandt

@Warner: Good thinking :-)

/me heads of to lunch ..

Izzy

:2985 Which is why you're still married ;)

Warner

haha Izzy.

Izzy

My GF would sinbin me if I was avidly checking SF on my honeymoon!

Warner

I was on my phone up until the resort without Internet access. ;)

Izzy

16:56

Heh

I took my gf to Egypt and the UK to meet family and for a romantic getaway. Clocked up a $1800 phonebill on my work iphone on data

Sagar

:o

Izzy

But admittedly, a fair chunk of that data was her using it

Warner

Ouch, that's no good.

Upvote this tag synonym for me please? serverfault.com/tags/pci-dss/synonyms

sysadmin1138

You betcha.

Ended up with a salted caramel hot chocolate over the mocha. This... is dangerously good.

Coding Gorilla

:3009 I dont have the rep :(

Sagar

17:05

Me neither :\

Jordan Reiter

Hey all, anyone here familiar with SELinux?

Jordan Reiter

Hey Izzy where did you go to in Egypt? (lived there for a year)

Coding Gorilla

@JordanReiter I'm "familiar", wouldn't say I'm an expert

Jordan Reiter

I have SELinux in "permissive" mode but it still swallows a good chunk of the CPU from time to time.

Jordan Reiter

I'm hoping to get rid of this error message by addressing the security problem, if any, that's causing it.

Jordan Reiter

17:09

Mind if I paste it in and you take a look?

Chris S

:2988 They don't really motivate me either; well except for the Fanatic one, I actually tried to get that one; the rest I haven't tried to get, they're just fun, like you said.

Coding Gorilla

feel free

Izzy

@JordanReiter Cairo (family there), Luxor, and Sharm

I'm half egyptian

Jordan Reiter

@Izzy: cool! I lived in Alex for around a month and Cairo for around 10 months. I had a great time. Egyptians are good people.

Jordan Reiter

Okay, raw audit messages follow:

Warner

17:11

Thanks guys, I had been waiting for that one for a while.

Jordan Reiter

host=www.example.org type=AVC msg=audit(1284656390.188:183671): avc: denied { unix_write } for pid=23452 comm="httpd" key=2030044671 scontext=root:system_r:httpd_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=sem
host=www.example.org type=AVC msg=audit(1284656390.188:183671): avc: denied { read write } for pid=23452 comm="httpd" key=2030044671 scontext=root:system_r:httpd_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t:s0 tclass=sem
host=www.example.org type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1284656390.188:183671): arch=c000003e syscall=65 success=yes exit=0 a0=18003 a1=7fff71bb4cf0 a2=2 a3=0 items=…

Izzy

Great sense of humour!

sysadmin1138

:2988 @KyleBrandt A few badges have motivated me. Getting my first 'Enlightened' did so. As did 'Strunk & White' when I noticed I was close to that one. Mostly it was rep mileposts (500, 2000, 3000, 10000) that did it for me. The only thing left for me now on that scale is a diamond badge ;).

Heck, may as well give all the synonyms a look-see: serverfault.com/tags/synonyms

Jordan Reiter

@Izzy Also, very generous although mad inquisitive. I'm Jewish and pretty much the second thing people asked me was my religion. There were a couple of occasions where it seemed like a major problem. The worst was in a microbus from Alex to Cairo. Halfway into the trip it leaked that I was Jewish, and one of the guys was visibly upset.

Chris S

:3030 I'd like to break 10k, but I'm not churning out answers in the hopes people will up-vote them.

Chris S

17:16

I don't really want the diamond... too many responsibilities come with that.

Izzy

@JordanReiter I can imagine. I'm half Palestinian, and the Egyptians have a special place in their hearts for the Palestinian people and their plight. I know that religion != country (Judaism != Israel), but not everyone can make that distinction

sysadmin1138

:3034 Like having to talk to people like vgv8, and wield the Mallet Of Loving Correction.

But really, it's mostly my competitive nature coming out.

Izzy

Although you could say Zionism is Judiasm, and Zionism is Israel...

Warner

I want to be a moderator. =)

Jordan Reiter

@CodingGorilla: hey, just wanted to check that the messages I sent to you were at all useful. Otherwise I'll just figure something else out I guess...

Warner

17:20

I like SF and SO as a company. I wouldn't mind being involved on most levels.

Coding Gorilla

:3040 Sorry Jordan, I think that one's going to be a little over my head =(

Warner

Crap, I lost most of my tag wiki on pci-compliant. I had it on that instead of pci-dss due to logistical limitations.

Jordan Reiter

@Izzy I disagree; there are plenty of Jews who are against Israel, and plenty of people who aren't actually Jewish who follow the hard-line (what some people consider "Zionist") position on Israel for their own reasons (especially Xian fundamentalists).

Jordan Reiter

Actually I consider myself a kind of Zionist but I think that can mean different things to different people. I think that Israel should be allowed to exist but that Palestinians should live there in peace as well. Basically, I like the idea of a Jewish homeland but that homeland should also be welcoming to the people who already lived there. I'm against the settlements, the wall, and dismayed at the horrible abuse of human rights that have been taking place there.

Jordan Reiter

As an Arab man once told my mother: "The Jews and the Arabs have always been brothers and friends. The Jews need the Arabs, and the Arabs need the Jews. It's only the people in power who brew conflict." Basically, the governments and militants on both sides are milking the conflict for their own purposes.

Izzy

17:26

@JordanReiter Agreed, I was actually saying I can see the distinction between religion and the state, but many people can't.

Zoredache

I kinda think we should evacuate the whole region, and nuke it to a point where nobody will care about it any more. It seems incredibly silly that so many wars have been fought over a small piece of real estate.

Jordan Reiter

@Izzy Anyway, I'd better get back to work. ma3a salama.

Coding Gorilla

Isn't that the case in all of politics, politics in general is about maintaining power. People rarely use issues because they want the issues solved, rather they use them to get the upper hand on their opponent.

Chris S

:3048 +10,000,000,000

Jordan Reiter

@Zoredache -10,000,000,001 There are peaceful human beings living there, you know.

Izzy

17:28

@Zoredache Wars have raged in that region for millennia. The Crusades as an example. It's the centre of all 3 Abrahamic relgions.

Chris S

:3050 Sort of a pessimistic view of the world, isn't it...

Jordan Reiter

@Zoredache missed the evacuation bit. Still, being uprooted from your home sucks. Ask any refugee.

Chris S

:3052 He said to remove the people first, we're not killing anyone.

Zoredache

@Izzy, yes, I know, thats why I think maybe people would be more likely to stop fighting if we simply removed the thing they are fighting over

Coding Gorilla

:3054 I prefer to think of it as a realistic view :)

Izzy

17:29

@ChrisS Maybe, but it's certainly the model of politics practised in the USA

Zoredache

It would almost certainly not work, but a nice silly idea.

Izzy

@Zoredache Where would you move the 30m inhabitants of the region? Invade another country, change its name, and evict the current occupants? Rinse and repeat

Jordan Reiter

Okay all, it was fun. I guess I/PT will always be a powderkeg issue.

Jordan Reiter

Bye all

Izzy

See ya

Coding Gorilla

17:31

Moving people, destroying the region, it wouldn't matter; it's not about the land, its about the control and authority the people who "lead" get from the conflict

Zoredache

@Izzy, what we really need to do is develop a brain-interface technology. Then we will gas the whole region with something that causes them to sleep. Then we plug them into the matrix which allows them to believe whatever they want.

Izzy

You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize... Ignorance is bliss

Crap - I've killed our AD reporting server

Coding Gorilla

Anyone have an easy way to extend a disk partition on win 2k3?

Izzy

system disk?

Coding Gorilla

yea

Izzy

17:34

VM?

Zoredache

Is the free space adjacent?

Coding Gorilla

yep

Izzy

yep to me or Z?

Coding Gorilla

both :)

Chris S

I just hope that someday everyone realizes that power in large quantities is its own burden.

Izzy

17:35

Shut it down, attach the disk to another server, start that one up, extend, shut down and reattach to the original as the C

Coding Gorilla

oh, beautiful idea! :)

Coding Gorilla

@ChrisS: stop beating me by 10s :(

Coding Gorilla

I need the rep more :P

Chris S

:3083 Sorry, couldn't resist.

Izzy

Does the slowness of the vSphere client make anyone else want to turn to hard liquor?

Warner

17:39

Sweet, politics and religion at the same time. You guys want to talk about abortion too?

Zypher

@izzy ... i have a bottle of scotch in my desk drawer cfor that reason and many others

Warner

serverfault.com/questions/181919/usb-ps2-usb-thumb-drive-wtf

Troll?

Izzy

Some people have way too much time on their hands

And those people are usually the ones that ask questions that should be in SU

pauska

I'm amazed what people use their time for

on to something completely different: I had no idea that Microsoft had a storage calculator for Exchange. This is neat and extremely helpful stuff.

Chris S

:3092 PS2 and USB are both 5vdc; it should be pretty hard to fry anything (though anything is possible with cheap electronics).

Warner

17:47

Good point, Chris. I'll remove my comment.

I was thinking pinout being munged.

Chris S

:3096 Is it that much worse than chatting here?

pauska

ChrisS: Yeah, it is. I learn stuff by watching people discuss things :)

Feed items comes up blank here aswell btw (norwegian IE9)

Zoredache

@Warner, why do you think that was a troll? It was a somewhat interesting question from a electronics perspective.

Coding Gorilla

@ErikPSkaalerud Compat mode seems to have fixed it for me

Warner

18:02

For a second, I was thinking that could potentially do some serious damage. I've had improperly grounded PS/2 ports fry mainboards. (IE. external metal shorting mainboard against case on PS/2 plug)

Zoredache

Ah, well using the connectors he describe there really isn't any issue. Just a chance of a bad connect...

25

A: USB ->PS2 -> USB ->thumb drive -> WTF?

The adapters you have are pin compatible with each other and there are no electronics within them. They simply convert four pins one way, then back again. In essence, no converting is going on. picture from ( link )

Warner

wow.

pauska

18:16

yeah, wow..

43k rep on that guy

GregD

Hey do any of you know of software that will watch a specific directory and zip files dumped into that dir at specific intervals?

sysadmin1138

You mean like a queue processor?

GregD

I suppose

I just have a data dump from SQL with a DTS package and I want to zip those two files to make them available for download

I'm looking to see if I can take care of that on the SQL side

right now

sysadmin1138

I've written scripts that do much the same thing, but haven't bothered to look for software packages.

Warner

Indeed, @sysadmin1138. That's what scripts are for. Of course, there's the inotify thing everyone seems to like.

GregD

18:23

Well it looks like I can do this with SSIS:

sqlservercentral.com/articles/Integration+Services+(SSIS)/64028

sysadmin1138

NTFS doesn't have inotify that I'm aware of, and that's where I wrote such a thing.

GregD

I'm just going to have to convert my DTS package and I don't particularly have the time..argh

mihi

@sysadmin1138 on Windows you can use FileSystemWatcher in PowerShell if it is fine for you to have a powershell script running all the time and wait for filesystem changes in a folder

mihi

BTW is it normal that when you reboot a hyper-v host some of the guest vms will return with a stop error even if all of them are configured to save state at shutdown and restore state at startup?

mihi

it happens for us every month (patch day) for different vms on different hosts :(

Izzy

18:41

The HTC customization of Windows Phone 7 looks totally delicious

►

sysadmin1138

Nifty.

Warner

Oh right, Windows. My mistake.

pauska

I need to find myself a profile picture

I feel like a "user1352" here

hm, gravatar says that I have a avatar activated

Chris S

:3142 If you just added it, it takes a little while to actually be used.

pauska

@ChrisS: It was activated already, I vaguely remember doing it several months ago

Zoredache

18:49

@ErikPSkaalerud, how about [gravatar.com/avatar/…

pauska

@ChrisS: When I go into acccounts on SF I can see my SU account, and the profile pic is there :o

Zoredache

or gravatar.com/avatar/…

pauska

@Zoredache: The thing is.. I already have a avatar set

Chris S

Is your e-mail address the same on both SU and SF?

Chris S

:3149 I like that one.

pauska

18:50

@ChriS: Yeah, they are both OpenID from the same gmail account

Zoredache

or a pony? [image]( unicornify.appspot.com/avatar/…)

l0c0b0x

Gaah!... I'm blaming a windows update(s) that is making my browser disappear on my 1st screen at random times when I click an app on the 2nd monitor <insert upset emotion icon here>

pauska

and when I'm editing my profile on SF and click Change picture it sends me to gravatar.com - wich shows that I have a picture set already

Chris S

:3153 Not your login, your e-mail address on this page: serverfault.com/users/edit/9140

pauska

Oh

weird, my work email is listed.

there we go

brb.

Wee :)

do you see my new nick?

sysadmin1138

18:57

Mostly. The chat-screen still has your old one, but if I try and view your profile it takes me to the new one.

Aaaaand there you are.

pauska

:)

Zoredache

reload the tab, the new nic/image will show up

sysadmin1138

Time to go hunt up lunch.

pauska

19:26

How would you respond if you found out that your new job has all sorts of pirated and unlicenses software running?

Warner

That topic has been well exhausted on SF, @Erik. Search around.

pauska

oh.

Warner

Bottom line: due diligence and CYA. Make sure you communicate the risks and document the decision. That's a business decision.

Izzy

either of these three. 1) demand a pay rise, whilst obviously thumbing through the relevant copyright agency (for your country) literature 2) Start job-hunting furiously and then report then company once you leave 3) demand they get legal

Zoredache

submit them to the BSA? >:)

pauska

19:29

@Warner: I don't find many relevant topics, so I'll just discuss it here.

l0c0b0x

@pauska I'd hold a meeting with my supervisor and bring it to his/her attention. Suggest a plan of action to remove the pirated software and/or license whatever software is needed. Another thing to look at is the possible damage these software caused on the machine (as in virus/trojan/spyware, etc..)

pauska

All good and valid points, but imagine the scenario that you're the new second IT technician/sysadmin, and that the IT manager is the one who's installed all the unlicenced software

Zoredache

then you have to make a personal decision. Decide if you are willing to accept the risk to yourself.

pauska

Also - In a new job (atleast in Norway) you have a trial period of 6 months..

Izzy

Keep the paycheques rolling in until you find something new. My concern would not be the tangible fact they have pirated software - it's the message conveyed about the culture at that organisation. If they're prepared to rip off and steal from others, and not give it a second thought, that isn't conducive to an environment that I would want to stick around in.

pauska

19:33

Ok, blah. I'll just spill it out: it's my new job.

l0c0b0x

I'd go directly to him and if he refuses to make it right, talk to his superior. If nothing changes.. eeek!

Zoredache

I guess I don't really don't know what the liability laws are like in Norway, you may need to do some local investigation.

l0c0b0x

@zoredache, indeed I wouldn't want to do that in the US. Who knows about Norway

Zoredache

Is there any chance that you personally could be put in jail?

Warner

That's a bad idea, l0c0. Unless you're prepared to be fired.

pauska

19:34

No

the company would be fined directly from the software vendor

l0c0b0x

@warner Obviously ;)

pauska

(and sued if they dont pay the fine)

Warner

There was a recent settlement from the BSA...

Zoredache

If they won't change, you have to decide if earning money is more important then your ethical concerns. Particularly if the job market sucks there, and there are not good alternatives.

pauska

The worst part here is that I'm not talking about the cheapest licenses out there. It's stuff like TS client CALS and vMware Enterprise Plus etc

Warner

19:37

I saw it reported but can't find the article now. It would be useful reference for communicating the risk.

pauska

Well. I think they will probably change if I make a fuzz about it. I'm just unsure about how I'm going to present it.

Zoredache

We really can't make that ethical vs pocket book decision for you.

Warner

Small company?

pauska

In US terms its small yes

Kyle Brandt

Anyone recommend any small footprint virus scanner?

Like an .exe that won't actually install

pauska

19:39

Was about to suggest NOD32, but thats installed

Kyle Brandt

For a one-off scan

pauska

Trend Micro has a web-based antivirus scanner wich works quite well

housecall.trendmicro.com

@Zoredache: I know. Was just looking for some advice on how to deal with this. I want the company to get fully legal on licences, and I'm going to advise them to do so when my trial period is over (6 months)

mihi

@KyleBrandt I like PrevX as a "second opinion". Needs installation, but will not interfere with other AV (only on-demand scanning), free for commercial use. But it will not remove malware if it finds any, only tell you so.

Zephyr Pellerin

20:44

Well this chat bit is pretty neat :)

sysadmin1138

I'm fond of it.

Zephyr Pellerin

I like it as well

Kyle Brandt

Hmm... load testing won't work to well with rate limiting will it :-P

Zephyr Pellerin

haha

Zephyr Pellerin

If it does, then you've got some large problems

l0c0b0x

20:55

That's my first questions when I deal with people and load testing... "uhmm... any traffic shaping happening on the path?"

Zephyr Pellerin

Well

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