The Comms Room

tombull89

12:09

When I asked the client for the login information on their network, they provided me with a username and the password “unique.”
This wasn’t the first time I’d worked for them, and each time, I would receive a different set of login credentials. However, the password was always the same.
This was when I realized what had happened. Someone must have insisted that the passwords on the servers were unique. And one of the network guys took it as a literal order and changed all the passwords to “unique”.

:|

Bob

@tombull89 wtf

tombull89

clientsfromhell.net/post/97467785837/…

Nathan C

Picked up the S5 last night. I love it. :3

Michael Hampton

@NathanC Has it caught fire yet?

Nathan C

Nah

The only thing so far is that it doesn't like the sonicwall VPN client too much

Michael Hampton

12:15

The S4 is prone to overheating

cole

Every time I think about switching to Android someone tells me how shitty it is.

tombull89

shitty how?

Michael Hampton

@cole Naaa.. Android is great. It's just Samsung that's shitty.

Dan

I'm having one of those days where at one point I weighted up the pro's and con's of simply walking out never to be seen again

Probably my worst go live ever

Bob

@MichaelHampton Mine's been fine. Heck, the S2 overheated more.

kaiser

12:17

In case someone wants to have a more "in your face" approach for semantic versions: please support the GitHub issue for the -eol suffix with a :+1:

tombull89

erm...you are aware this is a ServerFault room?

Nathan C

@MichaelHampton I suppose it depends when you get the phone. If you get it early bird you're bound to encounter issues that the vendor would likely "fix" later

kaiser

@tombull89 yes

Michael Hampton

@NathanC They've never "fixed" the S4 overheating.

@tombull89 I completely support semantic versioning!

kaiser

Maybe I should add some context: The whole thing started as WordPress discussion. WP always pushes users to update to the newest version (of wp), but sticks with PHP 5.2.

cole

12:20

@Dan /hugs

That's my day, every day.

Nathan C

oh, the S5 apparently has an IR transmitter

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@kaiser I don't think anyone in here cares about wordpress :)

kaiser

So it's only WordPress that runs on old PHP versions? ;)

Michael Hampton

@DennisKaarsemaker You'd be surprised :)

kaiser

(for e.g.)

wordpress ... 797 questions

Dennis Kaarsemaker

12:22

@MichaelHampton sane sysadmins don't run wordpress (or php)

Michael Hampton

I admin a bunch of WordPress sites

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tombull89

@DennisKaarsemaker who say I was sane? wibble

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@tombull89 I wouldn't dare to accuse you of sanity :)

Michael Hampton

@DennisKaarsemaker And what does it say about the sanity of someone who implements a major e-commerce website in perl?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MichaelHampton clearly such a company is utterly and hopelessly bonkers

Bob

12:23

@NathanC I think they added that with the S3. Def S4. It works, but it's... gimmicky.

I don't use anything that rakes IR anymore :(

Michael Hampton

@Bob The TV?

Bob

yesterday, by Bob

I can't remember the last time I intentionally looked at a TV, let alone actually watched it.

tombull89

ooh fistr.org is avalible

.com is parked tho

faker

@kaiser and they always say that shitty mass-hosters support PHP 5.2 and they live in the real world

Michael Hampton

@Bob Oh, right. I think it's about the same here. There is a TV in the house but I can't remember the last time it was turned on.

kaiser

12:26

@faker That's the chicken egg problem. WP says hosters are responsible, Hosters say that WP is responsible.

Mathias R. Jessen

@DennisKaarsemaker You don't say - I like it here already :D

Dennis Nolte

@faker yep, shitty webhoster with 1+1 wordpress support = 1+1 :)

kaiser

@faker The other problem could be that WP retrieves the stats from installations during ping-checks for auto updates. And there are hundreds of thousands of unmaintained, outdated WP installs out there in the wild. And they run into the stats as well.

faker

@kaiser is it though? Is wordpress pinning you to 5.2.x only? Does it not work with >=5.3?

kaiser

@faker no. I meant auto updates for WP core

Current WP is 4.0, but 2.8 (for e.g.) installations deliver stats as well.

Mathias R. Jessen

12:29

@kaiser And then at the end of the day @MichaelHampton ends up being responsible

Michael Hampton

@kaiser So when is WordPress going to start using semantic versioning?

kaiser

Take a look at the version stats

Dennis Nolte

@kaiser impressive, so many servers you can send spam from.

Michael Hampton

@kaiser Holy shit that's frightening!

Dennis Nolte

@MichaelHampton i bet nearly half of them is on some abuse list daily.

kaiser

12:30

Check the available versions here

Dennis Nolte

imagine how much money the hosters do make when you do not have a traffic flat on those..

kaiser

I'm pretty sure that the biggest bot nets are in fact wordpress "plugins" :D

Nathan C

We have a couple TVs at work that the remote control could be useful for. :p

Bob

where was that quote?

Dennis Nolte

@kaiser with the most output, certainly, biggest as in $clients, no, that would be home users.

Bob

12:31

> <azonenberg> wordpress is an unauthenticated remote shell that, as a useful side feature, also contains a blog

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kaiser

hehe

Ok, as everybody jumps in bashing WP now, it's time to head over to GitHub and help with a :+1: :)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

my dental hygienist has a wordpress site. Constantly got hacked until I moved the wordpress instance to a vpn and made the public website something that was wget --mirror'ed of the wordpress instance.

Dennis Nolte

@DennisKaarsemaker nice idea actually

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@DennisNolte and a free VPS for me. I suggested she moved away from $reallycrappyhoster to a VPS I'd maintain for her for free. I spend about an hour per year on that and get to use it as a buildbot :)

kaiser

Another possible solution (not only for WP) to check where exploits took place (changes files), is to use git in a cron script. For e.g. running on 10 min. intervals:

git diff --stat master@{10.minutes.ago}..master --dirstat=cumulative,files

Then just mail that.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

12:37

would cost more work as it would still get hacked and need cleanup. This is unhackable, modulo bugs in nginx

kaiser

Could even reset to HEAD after the changes are mailed

Dennis Kaarsemaker

and there's database changes you need to check

kaiser

That's true

Dennis Kaarsemaker

(can be mysqldump'ed and diff'ed, but meh :)

kaiser

and could be painful if the DB is some GBs

Dennis Nolte

12:38

@DennisKaarsemaker lets focus on the symptoms, not the cause :)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@DennisNolte rm -rf /var/www/wordpress*

kaiser

as long as it's installed in a subfolder ;)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@kaiser rm -rf --no-preserve-roøt /

ooh, editing a message that triggers the easter egg doesn't trigger it again

Dennis Nolte

@DennisKaarsemaker wont help on a read-only system :)

kaiser

smørrebrød

Dennis Kaarsemaker

12:41

@DennisNolte dd if=/dev/zero out=/dev/sda

Dennis Nolte

@DennisKaarsemaker no physical storage, your move :)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@kaiser Góða kvöldið

@DennisNolte poweroff

Dennis Nolte

@DennisKaarsemaker mollyguard

Jenny D

@kaiser smörgåsbord

kaiser

@DennisKaarsemaker well, it's only 14:43 over here :)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

12:43

@DennisNolte doesn't that work by placing a 'reboot' etc in /usr/bin which is earlier on the path?

if so: /usr/sbin/poweroff

Dennis Nolte

not quite sure actually, but it does not looks like it.
vtpdennis:~# ls -l /sbin/poweroff
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr 20 10:50 /sbin/poweroff -> halt
vtpdennis:~# ls -l /sbin/halt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11380 Mar 27 2012 /sbin/halt
vtpdennis:~# file /sbin/halt
/sbin/halt: ELF 32-bit LSB executable

kaiser

vtpdennis:~# file /sbin/halt ... too fucking easy to misread that

Dennis Nolte

and before you ask: immuteable, tmp = noexec,

in that mode: is it "normal" these days to have /dev/shm/ write and executeable or should i be concernd about that?

@kaiser i am not quite following i am afraid.

cole

I read

vtpenis

kaiser

vtpdennis took me three looks and re-reading your username to get around that this wasn't a joke

Dennis Nolte

12:49

@cole ah :)

kaiser

@cole yep

Dennis Nolte

pff, sickos, i thought summer is over..

faker

@kaiser but I don't get this really. How do you know in advance that a version is EOL when you release it?

what if you EOL'ed it, find a huge security issue that you patch again in the EOL version (happens all the time)?

kaiser

That's why patch versions are before eol version.

And eol wouldn't get attached as patch or x.x.patch-eol suffix

faker

so this is just a tag and there is no real release?

kaiser

12:53

yes

well, not necessarily, but you can use it as such

Mathias R. Jessen

@kaiser Is that an offer? Dyrlægens natmad med ekstra smør, tak

kaiser

this would be the most basic approach

"med ekstra" means "with extra" and "tak" probably "thanks" or "fact" like in Czech, Polish or Baltic, but wtf is "Dyrlægens natmad"? (I'm Austrian)

@faker if you announce the EOL version, you don't offer any more support. The idea behind it is to push everyone to update.

faker

@kaiser right, but that's not part of the version

Mathias R. Jessen

@kaiser a classic smørrebrøds-composition: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyrlægens_natmad

kaiser

@faker Sorry, don't get that.

faker

12:56

it's not like you push a new RPM out foobar-1.0.5-eol just to announce that it's EOL

Mathias R. Jessen

And yes, tak = thanks :)

kaiser

@faker Yeah. But as I said: You can do it (as most basic approach), but you don't have to. If you announce an EOL version, you don't offer anymore patches as the support ended.

But if you would offer patches, those would slip in before the version. So if 1.5-eol is the last version and you push 1.5.91, then it still would be a version before the eol version

eol should be considered unsafe - that's the point

like alpha, beta and rc versions are to be considered unstable

faker

but stuff gets announced as EOL all the time. And nobody reads it. What does this change? It's not like there will be a php-4.4.10-eol release tomorrow

ewwhite

Does anyone here ever use: touch /etc/nologin ?

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Naw, systemd does that for me

Jenny D

13:01

@ewwhite I have a vague memory of having used it some 10-15 years ago

serverfault.com/users/238855/…

I think my husband is bored at work today

ewwhite

It's muscle memory... taking a produce system down for maintenance... and the end-users just keep trying to logon.

@JennyD oh boy...

Michael Hampton

@JennyD That's your husband?

Jenny D

@MichaelHampton Yep

Michael Hampton

@JennyD Wow, ok :)

ewwhite

(downloads cuddlr)

Jenny D

13:04

@MichaelHampton Sounds like you recognize the name?

pauska

Tell him that not increasing serial when doing updates is bad stuff, mmkey? even without any secondaries

:)

Michael Hampton

@JennyD Yeah, I do... someone apparently thought one of those answers was spam

ewwhite

@JennyD I think they're on the same listserv

Dennis Nolte

@ewwhite we have a build script that uses this to basically warn users that the build is not yet finished.

Jenny D

@pauska Where did he say not to increase serial?

kaiser

13:05

@faker if you go out on the street and ask 10 people (who know how to use a computer) what an alpha version is, how many do think will know the answer?

ewwhite

@DennisNolte ah, good use.

Jenny D

@MichaelHampton I guess so. I will admit to upvoting anyway...

pauska

@JennyD ergh, I misread. nevermind.

faker

@kaiser I really try to understand this. If this is just for some wiki pages were projects put mycrap-1.5-eol -- ok, got it.

kaiser

It's only worth it in two scenarios (as far as I have thought it by now): Scaring end users and get package managers to do something with it.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

13:12

> I didn't do any tests. For every line of untested code a puppy dies. 59 puppies died in the making of this component.

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Journeyman Geek

@kaiser If you asked them anything about their system you'd get a blank stare ;p

kaiser

> "What OS is running on your shared plan?" ... "WordPress."

Dennis Nolte

@kaiser sharedplan???

faker

@kaiser I give up. My point is, if you release a alpha version, you know it's alpha. When you release a eol version you don't know that. Some versions just turn into eol versions. You can't change the version afterwards. Package mangers will not see this.

Dennis Nolte

@faker but you could version bump to mention that the next minor increase would be eol, making the previously eol aswell.

Jenny D

13:23

Regarding the downvote: You're welcome; I promise that I do the same for any question of similar quality. I appreciate your not getting upset or sarcastic over it. — Jenny D 31 secs ago

Dennis Nolte

so mycrap-1.5 diff to mycrap-1.6 would be equal, but mycrap-1.6-eol could be the version number.

@JennyD why would you think this is crap? it seems to be too localised sure, but what else other than the formatting might be bad?

Iain

yesterday, by Iain

> Things that are missing in your question: Your actual config. Your actual domain name. Any knowledge about mailservers, RFC 5321 and 5322, and what a bounce message looks like.

that was fab btw

pauska

you never linked to the actual comment :|

Dennis Nolte

@Iain you did fap to a comment of yours?

Jenny D

@Iain Well, he did ask what was missing...

Iain

13:29

yesterday, by Iain

@Wesley here http://serverfault.com/questions/630228/maillog-filled-with-spam

yesterday, by Iain

Some people and Monday mornings go together so well

ewwhite

The reason why you see 3 fans is because you have the possibility to handle 3 fans. And for the noise, in my experience there's no need for you Server to be quit because you usually mount it somewhere where the only things which can hear it are your other servers, if they are too loud there's also the possibility to buy more quiet ones but that's just my opinion. — Jeredepp 23 mins ago

Jenny D

@DennisNolte Lack of research and understanding. He is insecure about pretty much every single setting, and apparently he doesn't understand the concept of performance testing. This does not exactly scream "professional sysadmin" to me.

Dennis Nolte

@JennyD thank you for that information.

Chris S

14:04

None of the current HP EliteBooks have a numeric keypad (10-key)....
Por qué‽

Mathias R. Jessen

@DennisKaarsemaker my gf is in the building, you think it would be cool if I bring her to the 2nd floor to see where I sit?

Dan

@MathiasR.Jessen Have sex in your bosses chair

Chris S

WTF does that guy have 1000 connections to a MySQL server for??? Something ain't right there...

Wesley

Herrow party peoples.

@ChrisS I regularly deal with people blasting their MongoDB instance with 20,000 connections. Which , incidentally, is the connection cap for MongoDB at this point in history.

It appears that connection pooling is a foreign concept to most developers.

Chris S

Really? That makes me so sad for humanity...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

14:13

@MathiasR.Jessen sure

Wesley

@ChrisS From what I've seen, Java developers are the worst for both not knowing what tools exist, and then when they find out the tool names, not understanding how to use them.

Also, I don't find myself to be particularly clever, but am I the only one in the world that has never had a wordpress site hacked? I've deployed dozens and dozens of wordpress sites and, unless they're stealth hacked NSA style, they're fine.

Chris S

Either your sites are so small that nobody cares or has found them; or you keep up on updates within a reasonable margin, like doing updates at least once a year or two...

Seems like every hacked WP site I've dealt with they set it up 5 years ago and haven't updated once.

Dennis Nolte

@Wesley possibly the additional security tools you have installed prevent that from happening.

Chris S

The last WP hack I dealt with here on SF, looked up their site, running the latest version. Think to myself, that seems suspicious, I haven't seen a 0-day for WP in a while. Pull Google cache of their site, they had been running WP 2.9 until 5 days before the Question got posted. No idea how they made it so long without getting hacked.

tombull89

@Wesley same, I've deployed a few. I just choose decent passwords and use Askimet for anti-spam and that's it.

Oh and I keep it up to date too.

Michael Hampton

14:25

Type "Nagios" into Google, click I'm Feeling Lucky, then click Download. — Michael Hampton ♦ 1 min ago

Really. WTF?

Bob

@MichaelHampton "What is Google?"

tombull89

@MichaelHampton no, the correct answer is "Yes."

I know the minimum length is 15 but with modhax it can be less.

Chris S

@MichaelHampton I don't think Nagios provides the VM free anymore. You can recreate it, but installing packages/ports from your favorite distro is likely easier than downloading the source from the Nagios project directly. — Chris S ♦ 1 min ago

Journeyman Geek

@ChrisS Probably the latter

Mine's pretty much invisible outside my SE profile and it gets hammered with spam

Chris S

I get very little "odd" traffic other than the occasional "/wp-admin", "/administrator", "/user", and occasional request for the index of a directory that doesn't have one.

Wesley

14:39

@DennisNolte I've used some, but not consistently.

@ChrisS Certainly don't manage monster sites, but 1,000 people a day or so on the upward scale.

Also, @zypher has been at StackExchange for four years this month!

Wow has time flown.

Dennis Nolte

15:01

fuck those autobuild tools

how am i supposed to know that the tool needs to be able to autoload itself before compiling..

LDFLAGS="-ldl" ./configure my ass

Nick

tarballing 50 GB of data on a raspberry Pi .... predictions on how long itll take? :p

tombull89

over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND hours?

Nick

@tombull89 yea possibly, I want to transfer the data to my main PC and im going to open up an apache server and download over a switch... but I cba to download every single file... so ill have to archive them

Dennis Nolte

@Nick as long as compiling a kernel on that :)

@Nick rsync?

tombull89

vomits copiously

Bob

15:04

@Nick Depends what it's stored on.

Nick

@Bob external HDD over usb

Bob

tar without compression is pretty light; you're probably limited by HDD speed

@Nick ...or, USB 2.0 speed.

Nick

@Bob hmm can I force tar not to compress but just archive?

Bob

@Nick About an hour if there's no thrashing on the HDD.

@Nick What command did you run? Default is no compression.

Nick

@Bob thats why im transfering cause the HDD is 2.5 inches and might break soon :p

Bob

15:06

@Nick the physical size has nothing to do with... anything?

Journeyman Geek

@Nick: makes more sense to stick the external HDD on a real system

Nick

@Bob 2.5 inches break more often... most times :p

@JourneymanGeek meh, I didnt buy this switch for nothing, let me use it! :p

Journeyman Geek

I backup to a drive on my raspi

but I tend to think if I need data out, I'll be mounting it on my brix (since its ext4) since its faster

Nick

@JourneymanGeek I need to get a second drive for my backups but for now I just have an internal disk on my main workstation

encrypted ofcourse. using LUKS

Also correction, its 70GB

Journeyman Geek

@Nick: oh, at the moment I do system images to the raspi, file level backup to 3 different systems ;p

Nick

15:11

@JourneymanGeek I want to make a RAID 5... or RAID 1 array but no moneys

tombull89

I have my pictures and documents on my SSD (only a couple of GB) along with some games. Rest of the games are stored on my 2TB disk and everything gets copied up to my Microserver and then mirrored to a 3TB external usb and weekly document backups to the 3TB as well. Theory is if there's a fire, etc, I grab the desktop HDD and GTFO.

Journeyman Geek

@tombull89: oh, same idea with my current backup system, I grab the hard drive on my raspi and GTFO

Nick

@JourneymanGeek same idea here too.. as soon as I am able to buy a reliable HDD

Journeyman Geek

But then again

the only thing that's impossible for me to replace is my music collection

Nick

@JourneymanGeek how many songs? :p

Bob

15:19

that's actually a rather weird thing to be completely irreplaceable

Journeyman Geek

@Nick: couple of thousand

Nick

The 2 things that are for me impossible to replace: my movie library... and ofcourse private keys

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Its too big as a whole to back up.

Nick

@JourneymanGeek just leave a backup running overnight

Journeyman Geek

@Nick: 110gb couple of thousand tracks

@Nick: oh, I have 3 local backups

Bob

15:23

@JourneymanGeek 110 GB isn't much to back up... looks at 2 TB drive full of assorted crap

Nick

Am I the only one who has barely filled a 120GB SSD?

Journeyman Geek

@Nick: 8934 items

@Nick: yes ;p

Nick

Except my movie library but thats a different story

Sooo lately ive been utterly paranoid for some reason, to the point that I boot into a liveusb to sign a apk file to upload to the play store

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: oh, thats just music

tombull89

@Nick I've got 40GB of my 240GB SSD, the majority of which is Battlefield 4, Battlefield 4 CTE, and Watch Dogs.

Nick

15:26

@tombull89 25/109GB off my SSD used and my 1TB internal disk is basically empty

tombull89

I wanted a bigger SSD but at the time I bought it that was the highest price I was willing to pay. I'll probably put a 512 in it soon and move that to my bedroom HTPC.

Bob

I only have one 250 GB SSD, on the laptop, caching. 64 GB cache weird fakeraid volume, 8 GB hibernation/fastboot partition, 8 GB page file

still need to get one on the desktop, but it's out of SATA3 ports at the moment

tombull89

got an itch to build stuff at the moment...I wonder how I'd fare buying a load of bulk components from somewhere like Ali Baba and putting machines together.

Nick

@Bob o.0 how many disks do you have to be out of SATA3 ports?

Bob

@Nick you asked, so here goes

Nick

15:29

ducks

Bob

2x 2TB HDDs in fakeraid (that was a stupid, stupid decision a few years ago, but I cbf tearing it apart right now), and they're taking the only two SATA3 ports

2x 2TB HDDs internal, on SATA2 ports

one SATA2 port for the ODD

Journeyman Geek

1.6tb on my 3tb hdd, though that needs a cleanup 52gb of 250 on my SSD.

I also have a 40gb laptop hdd I think, for when I used to dualboot

tombull89

my microserver has a 250GB boot disk and 4x 2TB disks in (gasp) Windows Server software RAID5.

Bob

one SATA2 port for the eSATA that's not being used, but it'd be a waste to chuck an SSD on there

two USB3 2TB HDDs, and one USB2 1.5TB HDD. I have entirely too much storage space and useless data

Journeyman Geek

hm. ;p

Bob

15:32

One of the USB3 HDDs is a clone of one of the internals, and the other has a couple images of the RAID/OS drive

those are the 'take it and run in case of fire' disks

Nick

I have 1 SSD 120GB, 1 HDD 1TB, taking 1 SATA port each and also my PCs case is using up 2 SATA ports 1 for eSATA and 1 for a hotswap bay at the top

That leaves me with 2 SATA ports free

Nathan C

16:23

poot

Nick

@NathanC prit

CSᵠ

17:04

morning /UGT

can someone please send me in the right direction for joining/linking wlan0 + eth0 (i get internet on eth0, and want to add to the speed by connecting to some hotspot) maybe browsing on eth0 and downloading on wlan ? linux

Nathan C

@CSᵠ Might want to ask in this channel instead.

Michael Hampton

CSᵠ

thanks, @MichaelHampton can you move my message there?

nvm

Bob

17:30

@MichaelHampton So it was you!

cole

MS exams can now be taken online: reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2h8nbu/…

faker

@cole I was about to say that it's super simple to cheat now

then I remembered all the 'brain-dumps' out there already, so there is really no point in trying to protect against it anymore anyway

cole

@faker for real

Nathan C

17:45

@faker There's a lot of protections with the online one

faker

@NathanC yeah, but no. That doesn't work.

Nathan C

for one thing, a microphone/camera is required and there's an actual person on the other side who will ask you to do stuff like scan the room for stuff that shouldn't be there

faker

right, so I put a piece of paper on the back of my laptop and scan the room with my laptop built in camera

Bob

@NathanC Good luck seeing this tiny blended-in writing on the desk.

Or that ^

faker

right now, you at least have to memorize the brain dump when you want to cheat

cole

17:48

Interesting

faker

I really like the approach RedHat does. You get a system and you need to solve tasks on it.

it's much closer to reality. Unlike the MS multiple choice stuff... I got MCITP:SA, I think 20% of my score was variations of "Upgrade the AD level to $whatever-is-current"

Nathan C

They've been reworking some of the MCA exams to be more real-world based

Nathan C

18:08

@faker @cole It's pretty detailed O.o pearsonvue.com/microsoft/op

Chris S

I wonder if they make special tiny baidaids that fit your pinky finger... because the monster I have on there right now is about 3 seconds from getting ripped off and letting it bleed.

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS Yes, they do. There are even specially shaped ones that go over the fingertip.

Chris S

maybe I'll just put up with it for a hour and it will stop bleeding enough that i don't care...

cole

Maybe I'll work on getting my MCSE then - it's like 45 minutes to get to the closest testing center for me

Chris S

Stupid printer cartridge got me.... One more reason that vendor is out (about 1/3 of their cartridges would go bad, this is the 2nd to last that we have)

Nathan C

18:13

@cole I need to start working on some...but $150 for each MCA exam isn't affordable to me right now :(

pauska

@cole "Note that online proctored exams are currently available only to customers in the United States."

screw you too!

Nick

Hmmm possibly preparing to switch distros.. I think I should image my current system just in case :p

Wesley

18:28

@ChrisS Write something on the bathroom wall in your own blood.

"Haec est moriens langauge"

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Or just "$boss_name was here"

Wesley

18:44

@DennisKaarsemaker bit my finger.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Wesley that was a lovenibble!

@Wesley I didn't know you modeled...

Wesley

@DennisKaarsemaker I iz sexeh cat.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Wesley NEIN

Hennes

@Nick Nah. I am pretty sure you are not the only one.

Nick

@Hennes yay nother one that doesnt use too much space... seriously I have a friend that has 5 2TB drives... all full (wtf is he keeping in there?!)

Hennes

18:57

Both my mother and my sister use less than 20GiB (OS included.)

I think my father used around 40GiB on his laptop, but that inclludes a lot of duplicated

E.g. lets backup all photos I made to a map (but not delete them from the camara's SD storage). A few months later he repeats that to a different map.

Chris S

@Wesley WTF is that?

Chris S

19:09

Haec is feminine, language is masculine.
est looks good...
moriens is the vocative, best English translation might be "The Dying"
And "language" is in English still...

ewwhite

Can I downvote the pictures? That's cringe-worthy! — Bigbio2002 25 mins ago

rumtscho

19:22

Hello everybody

I saw today something and though you guys might appreciate it

You must all have heard of users complaining that the coffee holder in their PC is malfunctioning, if not had it happen to you personally

So, behold:

Nick

@rumtscho just...a..small... bump

mfinni

Looks legit. Nothing worse than a good espresso draw into a cold porcelain cup.

Michael Hampton

Ummm... rack mounted espresso machine?

And anyway.... PC cup holders are real. I have one...

rumtscho

Nope, there's real powerful computing hardware inside

Michael Hampton

rumtscho

19:26

It's actually much more than that (although I think only the computing part is housed in the rack).

It's a STED microscope, the world's best imaging technology available in biotech

tombull89

ah, liquids and server hardware. What could go wrong.

rumtscho

There was a talk on it, and outside of the lecture hall, there were guys from the group which developed it (now a tech startup actually, started out as a workgroup at a research institute)

They had set up this display of the system, very impressive. And beside it, a small table with swag.

When I asked about the cups, they told me they couldn't get the tin front to close the empty space in time for the display, and decided to put some of the swag in there, so it won't be a gaping hole

Chris S

I would kill anyone bringing an open cup that close to my computer.

rumtscho

They were physicists, not computer scientists, so they didn't even know of the cup holder meme and couldn't appreciate the irony.

But I'm sure they would have killed anyone who brought actual liquid to their rack too.

I don't know exactly at what stage their technology is... this might well be the only such device in existence. Or one of the first few, heavily modified, prototypes.

It's way more expensive and harder to replace than a server.

The microscope by itself is amazing too. It can show the structure of individual ion channels in cell membranes.

STED microscopy

Stimulated emission depletion (STED) microscopy is a process that provides super resolution by selectively deactivating fluorophores to enhance the imaging in that area. It was developed by Stefan W. Hell in 1994, and was first experimentally shown in 1999. This is one of several types of super resolution microscopy techniques that have recently been developed. Super resolution microscopy is a set of techniques to bypass the diffraction limit of microscopy to achieve better resolution. Both photoactivated localization microscopy (PALM) and stochastic optical reconstruction microscopy (STORM) are...

Wesley

19:49

@ChrisS "Latin is a dead Language" in Latin. =P

@Nick that's what she said!

Nick

@Wesley I was expecting that response -.-

Wesley

Okay now that I got my TWSS quota filled up for the day, I'm off to destroy some Ruby scripts.

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Nathan C

@rumtscho Mmm..expensive tech

Chris S

@Wesley linguam Latin mortuam is "latin is a dead language"

rumtscho

@NathanC Yes, I don't even have a use for it, but it made my day just being close to such a toy.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

20:32

@Wesley mongodump them!

Wesley

21:59

@DennisKaarsemaker I'll mongodump all over your litter box.

Jacob

22:48

I hate iSCSi

Nathan C

Huh, that's odd...my regular plug usb 2.0 charger won't charge my s5, but the USB one I have does

I left my usb 3 cable at work ><

cole

23:16

weird

Mark Henderson

@Jacob What did iSCSI ever do to you?

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Not work

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Well that can be applied to pretty much any technology

They're all capable of not working

Jacob

@MarkHenderson It's more of I hate this particular daemon.

No information on why initiators can't find the target.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Fair enough. iSCSI initiators can be dicks

Wesley

23:52

@MarkHenderson How's your Synology holding up?

Mark Henderson

@Wesley QNAP?

Haven't used it for iSCSI in a long time

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Figured it out.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Ah, right, QNAP

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Typo? Wrong VLAN?

@Wesley It's giving me the shits lately. Need rebooting once a week

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Forgot a follow up command to refresh tgts. Need to fix docs

@MarkHenderson Did you get your iphone?

Mark Henderson

23:59

@Jacob 3 weeks

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