@DennisKaarsemaker Go run some laps, tubby.

@Wesley Go ride a bike!

@freiheit I ran instead.

♫♪ And I ran, I ran so far away. I just ran, I ran all night and day. I couldn't get away ♪♫

Hmm, 72ghz SCSI drives!

sup

Morning

it is now

G'day

moin

hm

superuser.com/questions/799066/postfix-501-with-new-gtld I suspect this is a better fit for you guys, want it?

@JourneymanGeek looks less shitty than most of the things we've got, so sure :)

done

@JourneymanGeek It's fine, but the guy formatted and reinstalled, so I had no choice but to delete his question.

0_0

I generally delete "can no longer be reproduced" as unanswerable.

Oh, I mean the reformatting bit

did that fix the problem?

Reopened in our end, its a reasonable question

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, he said it did

We just generally don't like questions which have no chance of ever having an acceptable answer. Ask Ubuntu and SO also kill such questions.

Yeah, that's fine

I don't think we usually do, but I can entirely understand that.

> I ended up nuking the whole thing and trying with an updated guide and the whole system is running smoothly.

That was his comment. At that point there's nothing left to be done.

ah hah!

We just don't have an explicit close reason for that, like SO and AU

> This question was caused by a problem that can no longer be reproduced or a simple typographical error. While similar questions may be on-topic here, this one was resolved in a manner unlikely to help future readers. This can often be avoided by identifying and closely inspecting the shortest program necessary to reproduce the problem before posting.

> This describes a problem that can't be reproduced that seemingly went away on its own or was only relevant to a very specific period of time. It's off-topic as it's unlikely to help future readers.

oh, no worries about the close/repunt.

Heh. I was worried about you reopening it. It will attract unverifiable and quite likely low quality answers.

@MichaelHampton: eh, we can cross blow up that bridge when we come to it.

Or a bunch of poeple on SU will vote to migrate it again.

you can't remigrate a rejected question

Really? It still shows me the option...

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It'll probably tell you off it you try or something.

Naaa. Think I'm going to use the custom close reason for this one :)

and eh. Looks like my usual parts shop has gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5038#ov in stock.

Looks like I'm replacing my old single core atom mini itx as a home server

@JourneymanGeek How is that different from the Intel NUCs?

Hm. It essentially is a gigabyte nuc

Not seen an Intel bay trail nuc here tho

@MichaelHampton are you having fun with that guy ?

@Iain Yeah. So much fun, I'm about to strangle him.

@MichaelHampton I've already v-t-c but I should have waited as it would be better to close it 'minimal understanding' rather than inflicting it on SU

@Bob: the cheapest NUC they have is ~twice the cost, for a core i3

also, this has a VGA out, which oddly is a desirable feature for me.

I'm looking at about 250 singapore dollars with 4gb of ram. Maybe another 80 dollars for 1tb of storage on a 2.5 inch drive.

@JourneymanGeek They don't have the Celeron NUC?

The answer to so many questions on SF

@JourneymanGeek ...cheaper to get it shipped from the US?

~$40 for a 4 GB SODIMM off Amazon.

So about 50 SGD?

@Bob: getting it shipped isn't really an option

o.O

don't forget, PAF ;p

PAF?

Parental acceptance factor

Pakistan Air Force?

Oh :S

Well, considering local is apparently 5x the price... you might as well get a PO box!

no no!

250 dollars is the brix AND ram

bundled

Ah.

ram alone is ~52 so at 199 for the brix alone, I save a few dollars

$140 for an Intel Celeron NUC here.

meh, I suppose some stuff's a little more expensive, but they don't seem to budge off RRP for those

intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-board-dn2820fykh.html

that one

no VGA ;p

(until I replace my monitor, I pretty much have nothing that does HDMI in)

@JourneymanGeek why would you need a monitor? :P

initial setup?

@JourneymanGeek eh, that's where memorisation comes in :D

o0

or you can just install on the HDD and boot it

or: serverfault.com/questions/201585/…

(well, actually, I could do initial setup on another system, my current home server build has / on a USB drive)

hm.. that question's a dupe

and the answer has a nice link to the dupe

closing time? :P

well one alternative is keeping my current crappy atom box

I'm a bit concerned about fan failure, the original PSU already failed...

and by bit concerned, I mean, the fan sounds a little like a tiny buzzsaw

:(

I'm really losing patience with these sorts of businesses.

@MichaelHampton what business ?

The guy is some kind of BTC broker

@FalconMomot ?

the business @MichaelHampton cited

so, ones of the most egregious examples of people who think other people should trust them with important things because their particular server is magic and immune to damage.

like I said - what business ?

I sure hope none.

I wonder if he's run fsck on the fs

likely not

I answered him that stuff

I checked the usual places and didn't see any complaints about a Bitcoin website being down, so maybe he's not as popular as he thinks he is.

thousands of dollars would be just a few BTC

his entire bank probably had less than 10

Note to developers: The fact that you can install Ubuntu successfully and use things like Docker, Heroku and AWS does not make you competent at operations.

I really want to pin that for approximately ever.

@MichaelHampton that's preaching to the choir in here though

how did you figure out he is a BTC broker? From the pastebin?

Aha, bitcointalk comes through for me

bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=449010.msg8400897#msg8400897

adbit.co

This is why you run a replication slave.

web.archive.org/web/20140705150202/http://adbit.co

And he ran all that on one Digital Ocean droplet?!

lol

yeah I added a lecture to my answer

ugh, sadness; I ordered some dishes off amazon and three out of a set of 16 came smashed; my only option is to repack and ship back all of them.

@FalconMomot good answer

@FalconMomot ugh that sucks :(

@Iain And yes it's preaching to the choir, but we very often have developers from SO drop into chat here.

@MichaelHampton I got that upgrade working correctly - had to add kmod-forcedeth and remove the old ati graphics card and go back to the onboard nvidia chipset without the nvidia drivers

@Iain Oh wow.

@MichaelHampton it's an old desktop and it looks like RH removed support for a lot of old chipss

@Iain Yeah, they stripped out hardware drivers for a lot of stuff. I'm sure someone will put together a kernel for CentOS that adds them all back in.

elrpo has drivers for the nvidia chipset but they are behind X so it's just easier to not have them - it's not like I use the desktop that much on that box

For video drivers I generally use rpmfusion

@Iain thanks

@cole yup. Lots of perfectly good dishes back in the box, and I get to wait 3 days to get dishes I like somewhat less. oh well.

@JourneymanGeek Told you you should have left that question closed.

@FalconMomot I try to order fragile stuff from amazon fresh just to prevent that

@RyJones yeah myself also

another neat hack is buying textbooks there; gets me free delivery very easily.

but yes, amazon now is the best.

unfortunately, there are no nice dishes there, and I'm convinced that nice dishes as opposed to merely functional dishes are one of those things that are important for entirely implicit reasons.

@MichaelHampton regarding that v-t-c meta question - when I go through flag ->other reason ->off topic there is no option to migrate I presume they just removed it as it's >60 days old

@FalconMomot which dishes ?

@Iain The thing is, there used to be text that said "(too old to migrate)". That text is gone.

here is an amusing video about creating corporate change agents that harness negativity: youtube.com/…

(that is actually a really big problem in organizations; the cults of positive thinking and construction constantly prevent people from destroying dumb crap)

@Iain in this case, some ceramic ones with red scale details

I should probably find a good glassblower and have some stuff made but that's way too much work

there's no shortage of those here.

Great start to a monday. All our domain controllers clocks are 23 minutes behind.

And I discovered that Macs can't log on without a contactable domain controller. Do they not cache credentials by default?

@MarkHenderson Recent versions of MIT Kerberos no longer require synchronized clocks. But this postdates 2012R2, so you won't see it for a while...

@MichaelHampton Half our DCs are still 2008 R2

More serious than just that though. Means timesheet and activity entries are all out of whack

Which means it will trigger overtime payments unless I rectify all the records that were affected

@MarkHenderson Oh, OK, that's serious!

It doens't help that the time source I took for the correct time was also incorrect

But got no one to blame for that one but myself