The Comms Room

Mathias R. Jessen

15:01

@BigHomie "After the wedding, if you speak with your new spouse, you can determine where they will live." Isn't that pretty lousy? What if you end up marrying some NPC from the other end of the map?

BigHomie

@MathiasR.Jessen I have no idea, I literally have never played the game and just googled 'skyrim marriage'.

Mathias R. Jessen

@BigHomie I actually thought about putting that on my CV as a title: "SysAdmin, MCITP, Level 70 Googler"

BigHomie

@MathiasR.Jessen or Black Belt in GoogleJitsu

am I unashed? You bet I'm not.

Mathias R. Jessen

That moment when you realize your not an IT Pro - just a bionic Reverse Proxy for Googles search engine

^ happens at least twice a day for me :P

BigHomie

@MathiasR.Jessen I thought knowing how to google error messages was a pre-req for being an IT Pro~

Mathias R. Jessen

15:13

@BigHomie Oh, it is... I'm simply implying that the Venn diagram for the two is close to being just a perfect circle

Basil

God, what a day :(

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner wassup?

Danila Ladner

@ewwhite hey man.

ewwhite

yep

Danila Ladner

I ordered 2 more servers btw

Chris S

15:16

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner Yes I saw.

I'm going to NY tomorrow.

Shane Madden

@ewwhite You're avoiding me! (I'm leaving tomorrow)

Dan

@ewwhite Jealous - we miss NY

ewwhite

Oh, I'm not welcome at the SE offices.

Dan

@ewwhite For real?

ewwhite

15:19

naw, just had a bad interview with Kyle

You're unqualified!!

Dan

Blimey

Shane Madden

@ewwhite For which, the networking one?

ewwhite

@ShaneMadden sysadmin... a few years ago

before I went to logicworks

Shane Madden

@ewwhite Ahh, gotcha. I think you'd still be welcome at the office :)

ewwhite

nah, turned me off... ;)

What is NEED is for @DanilaLadner to invite me back!

Shane Madden

15:22

@ewwhite Well, we'll at least have to grab a drink if you're around next time I'm out here, heh

Mathias R. Jessen

@Basil A shitty one?

Danila Ladner

@ewwhite I will be most likely going to see Ohad @ The Ladders about ansible and foreman integration, but might not, since have league soccer game

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner Is Ansible really the best way forward?

Basil

@MathiasR.Jessen in spades

ewwhite

I'm probably too conservative. I feel like Puppet is usually good enough.

Danila Ladner

15:24

i like it, since i know python, more flexible for me, can integrate python into play books directly, and i can't ruby and do not want to be tied up to puppet DSL. But then i hate cobbler for provisioning and reporting.

BigHomie

@MathiasR.Jessen Oh I see lol

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner totally understandable.

Remember, I'm a hack... so Puppet masks my lack of skills :)

Danila Ladner

my zfs/nfs setup is the beast

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner oh? done?

Danila Ladner

write to nfs mount saturates the 1G link up to 121MB/s

ewwhite

15:27

pretty efficient

Now add LACP!

Danila Ladner

and at the same time when the second client is writing at the same time on the second i get 98MB/s

Chris S

I'm so sick of crap like this. If you haven't checked the logs and verified the most basic connectivity issues then don't post.

Danila Ladner

in parallel

that's one issue here, i have KVM clients they are M610 blades, they have only 2 ports in them.

one for stor, and one for reg net.

so I can't LACP on the client

ewwhite

I'll gladly sell you some HP blades.

Danila Ladner

lol

I have plenty of baldes

Dan

15:30

In which case he'll see you crack

ewwhite

and anything else. I need to make money off of you somehow!

Danila Ladner

I just need to find a net card for them with 4 ports

All my adult life everyone tries to make $ off of me: wife, kids, parents, ewwhite, recruiters, IBM, DunkinDonuts. the list is almost infinite.

ewwhite

Hey, you have access to my premier hardware resource.

you get to be the hero coming in to your boss with $ savings on equipment

Danila Ladner

Wouldn't you get anything from your hw boys?

who did you interview again with?

Ryan Ries

My VMware environment is a proof of concept for the absolute slowest hardware that Windows guest VMs can successfully operate on.

ewwhite

15:37

@DanilaLadner Sometimes there's $ on the hardware deals

I mark equipment up much more.

Danila Ladner

for the clients?

ewwhite

I'm trying to secure a $1 million deal with <a former employer>

Danila Ladner

Ok, i can try to give you a few clients to sell eq to.

ewwhite

@DanilaLadner Naw, I want you guys to use me for my datacenter and ZFS skills

Danila Ladner

one is 1000 people health co

dc work is done

just left setting up ipsec tunnels.

ewwhite

15:41

:(

Jacob

That's a joke right? This is Server 2012, when would it even be used at home and why do I want it to find stuff automatically?

4

Dan

It's related to the three network states in Vista (I think) onwards - Work, Home, Public

It's in 2012 because it's in 8 :)

Jacob

@Dan My *nix boxes don't want to find my devices for me! What is this madness?>!?

Dan

@Jacob It's just fancy network neighbourhood shit.

It doesn't really "do" anything if you're nto actually using it

Jacob

Besides, This box is running inside VMWare inside of my cabinet at a datacenter. I doubt there is much listening.

BigHomie

15:45

@Jacob Media server d00d

Dan

More to that point, do me a favour and rename that NIC to something meaningful :D

And why aren't you using VMXNET?

Basil

It's been three years, but I finally got so annoyed at badly targeted emails that I created an outlook rule.

Jacob

@Dan Poop

Forgot to set that, aaaand it's fixed

Basil

This one guy assumes that everyone in the IT department (all 1200 of us) needs to be informed about his project's progress and webinars. And just to make sure we're in the know, he sends the invites out with all of us in the "to" field, which made filtering annoying.

Dan

@Jacob :D

Danila Ladner

15:49

@Basil what co is it 1200 people in IT?

Basil

@DanilaLadner I work for a big railroad

Christ, reading this guy's email, I'm not sure he'd pass a turing test...

Dan

And he drives trains.

HopelessN00b

Hope it includes an insulting bounce message.

"Sorry, but your message could not be submitted as sent. The receiving mailbox sent the error message :'Fuck you dumbass!' in response."

Basil

@HopelessN00b Tempting, but no. I would have considered auto-declining, but instead just deleted.

Now I just wish I could get outlook rules to run on the server!

Michael Hampton

@Jacob Windows Server is sometimes used in workstations, when the license for regular Windows won't cover the hardware. That's a very uncommon circumstance though.

Dan

15:51

@MichaelHampton Actually, on a more interesting point - Windows Server is used a lot in a VDI environments due to restrictions on reselling connections to the desktop editions

HopelessN00b

@Basil Well, to each his own. I find it more fun to hack custom bounce messages into the Exchange server. Delivery rejected 69.69 - busy banging your mom. Delivery delayed - busy waiting to bang your mom. ... and so on.

2

Basil

@HopelessN00b Heh, luckily I only admin the storage, not the servers.

So the temptation is easy to resist

HopelessN00b

I'm not the email admin either... though they do get the most irate calls from customers occasionally... :)

Chris S

16:07

@Basil We're running Exchange with Forefront, so the "Junk" rules in Outlook actually get implemented by the e-mail server. Block a sender in Outlook and e-mails from them will actually bounce at the Exchange server. I find this works particularly well with a slightly toned-down HopelessN00b style message like "Take a hint - they don't want your e-mails anymore"

Travis

What a night!

2

BigHomie

16:18

@Jacob okay tell me somethin'

Jacob

@BigHomie I was just making sure I @'ed him

Oh no. How do I disable Internet Explorer babysitter mode?

(found it)

BigHomie

@Jacob you don't.

Jacob

@BigHomie why?... going to elaborate?

BigHomie

@Jacob b/c IE Security holes are as big as texas and twice as oily.

Chris S

@Travis Late December, back in '63

Jacob

16:23

@BigHomie I don't browse the internet on my servers, I go to very specific links to get software to install.

BigHomie

@Jacob famous last words, but have it your way

tombull89

I've recently tried NinitePro...quite impressed. I know they want to keep it bloat-free but it would be nice if you could push out msi's too.

BigHomie

Everyone thinks that stuff is there to keep people from browsing the internet

Jacob

@BigHomie huh?

BigHomie

@Jacob Just realize that IE can be exploited by simply being open and in memory, is all I'm sayin

freiheit

16:40

Oh, hey, RHEL 7 is out

RobM

@pauska 2007 rather than 2010 for us, and yes.

Tanner

16:59

@Travis had a rough one?

ewwhite

@freiheit meh

freiheit

@ewwhite I have one project I really wanted to do with RHEL7 instead of Software Collections (next version of moodle requires newer PHP and MySQL/MariaDB than RHEL6 has).

Michael Hampton

I've had a whole pile of projects waiting for EL7.

ewwhite

I never trust .0, .1, .2 releases of RHEL

Michael Hampton

Now taking bets on the CentOS 7 release date.

ewwhite

17:04

6.0 had glibc bugs, 6.1 broke my toilet, 6.2 killed XFS.

Jacob

@MichaelHampton Hopefully a bit faster now that CentOS is part of RH

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MichaelHampton July 10th

Michael Hampton

@DennisKaarsemaker Ha. Just took a quick glance at the CentOS mailing lists. "Oh shit we've only done the branding removal on 10% of the packages!"

kce

0

A: Are we becoming too judgmental about questions relating to "professionalism"?

Please indulge my bit of amateur anthropology here... I think the other answers here have done a great job distinguishing between closing a question due to a "lack of professionalism" versus "not being about professional system administration"; however seeing as you are coming here from StackOve...

ewwhite

meh

kce

17:16

My bit of amateur cultural anthropology...

Jacob

@MichaelHampton I see the ones about the branding tool, but where is that one at?

Michael Hampton

@Jacob lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2014-June/010529.html

Magellan

mornin' gents.

Jacob

@MichaelHampton nice

Magellan

@kce Nice job. Mis-spelled 'In' though. s/It short/In short/

Basil

17:21

@kce I like that

kce

@Magellan - Thanks.

@Basil - I feel it is a more or less accurate summation.

Jacob

@kce What's the endgame?

kce

@Jacob - We, as in the SF "curate content" community lose.

Magellan

@kce Of course. .SE had made that clear since they summarily rejected the first FAQ Rewrite with no input as to correcting it.

@kce We exist to help pay .SE's bills. That's about it.

kce

In my opinion we've already "lost". There's very little voting, there's substantially less good content and good contributors from even a year ago. The only thing we have an increase in, is increasingly poor questions (by SF's community standards).

@Magellan - ServerFault! StackExchange's ClickBait!

mossy

17:29

Anyone have tech related podcast suggestions?

Jacob

@mossy Bart and Pete do one. Geeking after dark?

Magellan

@mossy that's awfully un-specific.

Jacob

@mossy geekingafterdark.blogspot.com

mossy

@Jacob Who's that baby

in the podcast

or is that a girl

Jacob

No idea?

mossy

17:32

hahahah

BigHomie

17:43

The question nobody has come up with a good answer for yet is: How do you attract and retain high quality people and content? — Michael Hampton ♦ 4 mins ago

Well, whatchall think?

voretaq7

@BigHomie Money.

BigHomie

SE Seems to think it's asking expert level questions, since they don't pay us most of us to be here -_- @voretaq7

voretaq7

@BigHomie They did give me this fancy diamond

("The reward for doing good work is more work.")

BigHomie

@voretaq7 MUSH!

voretaq7

Mush (cornmeal)

Mush — sometimes called coosh — is a thick cornmeal pudding (or porridge) usually boiled in water or milk. It is often allowed to set, or gel into a semi solid, then cut into flat squares or rectangles, and pan fried. Usage is especially common in the eastern and southeastern United States. It is also customary for those in the Midwestern US to eat it with maple syrup or molasses. In Eastern Europe instead of boiling in milk, it is poured over the meal once served and cooled down. Corn meal mush is often consumed in Latin America and Africa. It has been considered synonymous, perhaps er...

Because.... just because.

BigHomie

17:47

^Awesome^

<<===Lives up to certain stereotypes.

Jacob

13

Q: Was this 4th grader's creationist quiz real?

Is this 4th grader's creationist quiz real or a hoax?

young-earth-creationism

voretaq7

it is awesome. Learning how to pan-fry it without it falling apart is important though.

BigHomie

@Jacob why @Yacub why

Jacob

@BigHomie because?

voretaq7

@Jacob Because GOD DID IT! STARBUCK WAS AN ANGEL! BE NICE TO YOUR ROBOT VACUUM!

Jacob

17:56

Where's @MDMarra? I need to setup AD...

BigHomie

@Jacob Must. Fight. Urge. To. Defend. Beliefs.

mossy

@BigHomie lol

Jacob

@BigHomie I just linked a question. I didn't comment on it.

BigHomie

@mossy I gotta keep it real man fried chicken and macaroni and cheese any day of the week for me, what can I tell ya ;)

mossy

@BigHomie I love cornbread

BigHomie

17:58

@Jacob I know, but that question is ripe for trolling and I have work to do :(

@mossy Then you've just earned yourself a gold star

voretaq7

@BigHomie <rawhide-theme>Trollin' Trollin' Trollin' - Lots of Jesus Trolin'</rawhide-theme> :P

@mossy @BigHomie Who DOESN'T love cornbread?

(Godless Communists - that's who!)

BigHomie

@Bobson that's an unscientific hypothesis because it has no predictive power — Sklivvz ♦ 2 mins ago

@voretaq7 I think even some of them like cornbread.

Tanner

god dammit now I want cornbread

voretaq7

@BigHomie Yes, but if they admitted it they'd be sent to the gulag for consorting with capitalist swine.

@Tanner OH YOU'RE WELCOME!

BigHomie

@voretaq7 bacon and cornbread?

voretaq7

18:01

I can type. Shut up. Stupid fucking Apple keyboard....

BigHomie

too bad I don't eat pork anymore :(

voretaq7

@BigHomie interestingly those are two foods I prefer to keep separate

Bacon goes better with eggs and other proteins than it does with carbs

BigHomie

bacon cornbread sandwich??

pauska

mmmmmmmmmmm bacon

voretaq7

also it's lunchtime now, because we're talking about food and I'm hungry!

Ry Jones

18:02

Salut @Magellan

BigHomie

@voretaq7 sshpsh, slap it between a slice of bread and some butter and you've got urself a breakfast my friend

freiheit

@voretaq7 Bacon goes with everything

BigHomie

0

Q: How can we recruit and retain more talent?

Tangentially related to another meta post, the last discussion about this was a while back, so it may be time to revisit this topic. The #1 answer in the chat was money, so that and fried chicken aside, how can we draw more professional system administrators to the site? Personally, I came on ...

discussion voting community future-of-the-site

Ry Jones

@BigHomie I've begged people I work with to contributed here and Stack Overflow and the opinion across the board is it's a cesspool where you'll be attacked, and therefore not worth it

BigHomie

yeh SO is full of vultures, but SF? A cesspool?? ouch

well I guess we better put our cape on.

freiheit

18:11

@BigHomie I do sometimes compare system administration to plumbing.... (taken for granted until you have a problem)

2

BigHomie

@freiheit Same here

Ry Jones

Anything less than complete success is failure.

pauska

@MichaelHampton I honestly believe it could solve our problems IF the high-reps start voting up

and post interesting questions

If it's going to get implemented then I'm going to double my question amount..

and for the rest of you, read the bottom half of this blog post (The decline of SE part)

Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #59 – The Decline and Fall of Stack Overflow

Abby T. Miller on May 29, 2014

Welcome to the 59th running of the Stack Exchange podcast, brought to you by Nutella! Your hosts Joel Spolsky, David Fullerton, and Jay Hanlon are joined this week by special guests Josh Heyer (aka Shog9) and Robert Cartaino (aka Robert Cartaino) of the Stack Exchange Community Growth team.

We’ve got a busy podcast scheduled, so let’s get down to business, starting with New Features with Uncle David.

We are revamping the user profile, and you can check it out and give us feedback (and please do!). …

Magellan

@RyJones Howdy Good Sir!

Michael Hampton

@BigHomie Our official tag for meta questions about the future of the site is doomed

BigHomie

18:19

@MichaelHampton lol thnx, interesting choice

Magellan

Ugh. I am so not down with the Going to Work thing today.

Danila Ladner

stay home, masturbate, drink some whiskey, sleep some more.

Ry Jones

@Magellan hope your day is interesting

Magellan

That it will be. I haven't turned my phone on yet as it's likely to have lots of emails in there for me....

Ry Jones

@Magellan ugh

Jacob

18:25

gizmodo.com/5961182/…

Ry Jones

good.

Danila Ladner

It used to be my house mail box I was affraid of, now it is my cell phone.

BigHomie

@Jacob not impressed, anyone can subscribe to a typical listserv, evident by the number journalists on the list. I was surprised to see [email protected] though.

Jacob

So I just setup AD with .local. That's how it's supposed to be done right?

BigHomie

@Jacob Is that a real question?

mfinni

18:38

@Jacob Shouldn't that come with a trollface?

Jacob

@mfinni It should, as I used ad.domain.com

mfinni

@Jacob excellent.

BigHomie

@Jacob never raise my blood pressure like that again

Jacob

It's long been a meme in here to say that we setup AD with .local

It used to be to piss off @MDMarra before he stopped coming in here.

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Magellan

@Jacob so what is the proper domain to use nowadays?

Jacob

18:43

@Magellan I normally use ad

Ry Jones

@Magellan .localhost

BigHomie

10

A: Should engineering have its own DNS zone, delegate, or subdomain?

First and foremost, make sure you own the domain.tld you plan on using (mit.edu). Even if this never connects to the internet, that's not the point. There are huge benefits to having a hierarchy of dns that at least somewhat matches the org. I've only seen this done when there is someone/people ...

freiheit

@Magellan A sub-domain of your actual registered domain

BigHomie

If you're in a lab pick on of the big four, .test
.example
.invalid
.localhost

Magellan

ok. figured so. You Windows People are strange.

=p

I think I'll stick with my 389. No black magic involved.

Jacob

18:45

@BigHomie Why still not follow convention.

My home cloud used my domain

and yes I did run a cloud in my house

BigHomie

@Jacob well, I can see in a test environment if you want the added peace of mind of knowing there's pretty much no way DNS-speaking that someone an reach your domain, that's it, I mean they put them there for a reason I have to say

@pauska @pauska_sock it appears that Joel believes the 'Front Page' is the end all be all of question asking, not really the case

Basil

@freiheit It's also like plumbing in that we have a hands-on relationship with both shit and things that move shit around.

kce

Sooo. I'm testing my Hyper-V Cluster by disabling the storage network ports. Currently have no iSCSI sessions going, my test VM and the cluster disks are still owned by this node AND the VM still works... hmmm

What is this sorcery?

Michael Hampton

I have my own proposal.

0

Q: SF should use the "interesting" home page

As you might be aware, Stack Overflow has a unique home page which tries to display questions which are relevant to the user. This works very well for SO and helps its users sift through the thousands of questions posted there daily. While we usually only have hundreds of questions per day, I th...

discussion feature-request frontpage

Jacob

@MichaelHampton You sir, are ingenious.

mfinni

18:58

@kce Drive some IO to it and see if it craps out?

kce

@mfinni - I can watch YouTube videos on it, if that counts...

mfinni

@kce Only if that causes disk IO; depends on your Flash cache settings I would think.

Magellan

woah. the review queues are empty.

that's creepy.

Oh. Duh. That was Meta.

strugee

hahaha. oh, SF.

how attractive to spammers you are

kce

@mfinni - IOmeter is preparing to run and everything is still working. Weird. Get-ISCSIConnection shows two open connections but Get-ISCSISession shows none of the Targets are connected.

BigHomie

19:12

0

Q: What is the water resistance classification of the iPad Air 2?

My team is looking to develop an app that will assist underwater welders, treasure hunters, and general sea dwellers as well. I cannot g into details because of the pending NDA, however I cannot find the water resistance rating of the upcoming iPad Air. What is the rating?

ipad-air-2 water-resistance

Upvotes anyone?

kce

@mfinni I wonder if its just instrumentation?

mfinni

@kce Ya got me. Lumeniferous ether?

*Luminiferous, apologies

kce

@mfinni - MAGIKS. IT WORKS BY MAGIKS!

mfinni

Been awhile since I worked on pre-relativistic technology.

Jacob

@BigHomie proofread

kce

19:14

It's the other way around. It's non-deterministic Hyper-V. The chance of it failing or succeeding is merely a probabilistic and based on quantum-entanglement.

BigHomie

@Jacob one little vowel Yacob, but thnx

mfinni

@kce What's the SKU for that? I'd like to order some.

Actually, sounds like what we've already got.

kce

@mfinni - Windows! It might work. Maybe.

Killed the last connection and it locked up.

It seems to take a bit before the cluster disks failover

Jacob

@BigHomie comment posted

Ry Jones

@BigHomie Nobody knows what the rating of an unreleased product is.

BigHomie

19:23

@RyJones That's the beauty of it, when someone's finds out they'll post it there, then my question will be the SME muah hahahaha

Jacob

@BigHomie It's offropic

Pedal time. I'm out.

ewwhite

More Office Workers Switching To Fetal Position Desks - Wellness experts say curling up in a ball on the floor is the healthiest way to deal with the non-stop agony of the workday.

Ry Jones

huh, I heard @ewwhite didn't hang out here any more

ewwhite

@RyJones he doesn't

Ry Jones

@ewwhite sad, he was my produce information connectin

BigHomie

19:34

@RyJones I heard he averages more posts per day here than anyone else in comms.

ewwhite

@BigHomie Do I?

BigHomie

@RyJones Not true, some Apple employees might frequent the site

@ewwhite The other day, it dipped a little and now I've got that title, so keep posting when I'm not around

Ry Jones

I give up. Nobody that knows is going to say, and if I need to explicitly list every little condition on every statement, I give up.

Iain

19:55

@MichaelHampton serverfault.com/users/tag-future/current - get a feel for what the interesting tab might show you - for me it would still be full of crappy questions

ewwhite

20:14

I propose an HP ProLiant-specifc StackExchange site!!

Iain

@ewwhite area51.stackexchange.com

ewwhite

Nah, HP would sue me.

but I did break 700 rep points on Unix and Linux!

Jacob

►

HopelessN00b

@Iain Yeah, I'm more likely to answer Windows and Windows-7 question than your average user. Certainly no shortage of crap in there.

Hell, throw in a MySQL tag and cPanel/Plesk, and I may as well save myself some time and go play in traffic.

@ewwhite You really want to answer 50 questions a day about how to download Proliant firmware without a Service Pack license number?

Iain

@HopelessN00b I'll raise you linux and apache with a side order of ubuntu, centos and similar

High quality qestion sources - not

ewwhite

20:20

@HopelessN00b you know, I haven't had to enter a license or serial on HP's site for a loooong time

HopelessN00b

@Iain The one redeeming think about my future is that Ubuntu is the first tag listed for unlikely to answer.... even with Linux as my 5th highest tag by %. =D

ewwhite

:)

Iain

It's interesting to see some of the discussions on mSO now that it's been split from mSE - they re now able to wrestle with their quality issues

@HopelessN00b I have a slew of Microsoft technolgies on my list

HopelessN00b

@Iain Must mean it's the shape of things to come. =D

PowerShells and Metro UI everywhere you look!

Iain

the less likely list that is

565

A: Why is Stack Overflow so negative of late?

Why is Stack Overflow so negative of late? I hate to pile on, but I couldn't resist summarizing the problem. And I apologize ahead of time for any potentially offensive language that I might use. Basically there are 4 camps of users on Stack Overflow: The "caretakers" who want to keep the...

That's interesting just for the graphic

I'm a 1 but becoming more 4 all the time

HopelessN00b

20:30

I'm a category 5. Bored and under-utilized at work, and happy for something diverting that looks IT-related enough to slip past the bosses' notice.

Ryan Ries

Meet person in real life. Later look up their LinkedIn profile. 3rd degree connection; LinkedIn won't let me connect with them. Wants me to pay to upgrade to premium. Google person's name and place of employment instead. Google caches LinkedIn search page with Connect button on it. Mission accomplished. :P

Matthew Ife

I'm 90% 4 10% 1.

Soviero

I think I may have found the only My Chemical Romance song that I like: pandora.com/my-chemical-romance/…

2

I know, it's a new day in America!

2

Iain

Most people here in chat are somewhere between 1 and 4 the occasional 3 too

BigHomie

<< 134

Matthew Ife

20:34

I'm here because occasionally I like to show off on a subject matter I know (relatively speaking) a lot about, its not the typical type of topic you can easily go on about in a pub and have people even be able to comprehend about 5% of what I'd be waffling on about.

Soviero

@Iain Is there an option for people who just use the site when they have a question, and ask legitimate questions correctly?

2

ewwhite

@RyanRies Oh, I just pay LinkedIn every month to assist my stalking efforts.

Iain

@Soviero whatever you want

ewwhite

@MatthewIfe It's how I feel about my HP skill set.

Soviero

@Iain That's not a valid response to the question...

2

Iain

20:35

@Soviero downvote and close it then

Soviero

Who's star-stalking me?

2

ewwhite

@Iain the graphic kills it!

Do I encourage stupid questions/answers?

Matthew Ife

I guess thats why I prefer chat too. Its a more immediate hit.

Iain

@ewwhite stream of conciousness ?

Soviero

Let's test my star-stalker:

2

ewwhite

20:38

@Iain Half the time I look and know that I can help someone's issue... but stepping back, a lot of these people could have done better reading the manual/docs/googling...

Soviero

Obama.

2

Hitler.

2

Stalin?

2

ewwhite

Someone asked how to update their disk firmware on an HP box.... New user. Fine. But they could have found that on the support site quite easily.

Soviero

Hannibal Lecter.

2

Iain

@ewwhite absolutely. I've stepped back and started answering questions indirectly - giving people clues and hints rather than code in an attempt to educate them

Soviero

John Green.

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ewwhite

20:41

but after a certain point, you can't teach people how to troubleshoot.

Soviero

Hank Green.

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ewwhite

The OP from this question came back today to give an update.

Server power removed.
Informational
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05/29/2014 16:57
05/29/2014 16:57
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Server power restored.
Informational
iLO 2
05/29/2014 16:57
05/29/2014 16:57

bad power cable/connection/UPS

Iain

@ewwhite that's very true and trying to diagnose something with someone who doesn't understand on the end of a comment stream doesn't do well either

ewwhite

which is among the first things you check before posting to the internet.

Iain

@ewwhite aye

ewwhite

20:43

so that's missing. I think we're getting old

Soviero

Star this, if the star-stalker is @Iain.

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ewwhite

I'm only here to eclipse Evan Anderson and claim that I won the internet

then I'll slink away or focus on bike riding or something

Soviero

Ha! I should have known! @Iain!

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Iain

I leave so many comments to the effect 'are there any interesting messages in your logs' I can't believe people ddon't look in them first

ewwhite

@Iain BTW, I've been riding every day.

Iain

20:45

and worse some even ask which logs and where to look :(

@ewwhite I did just 9 miles at lunch time today. Tomorrow I have 80-100 miles and 5800 to 7500 ft of climbing depending on legs/time at about 65 miles

ewwhite

climbing... so foreign to me

typical ride for me... 358ft elevation

Iain

@ewwhite I see @Wesley's and @jacob's rides on strava and can't believe how far they ride with no change in altitude. I live in a flatish area and make 1000ft easily

Matthew Ife

Heres my brutally honest look at the top five questions I saw on SF a few minutes ago (for me, I ignore tags).

ewwhite

@Iain Glaciers are to blame here

Matthew Ife

This is what Isee when I look at the questions subject line (the *only* thing that will attract a click)...
**Server being used to send spam mail. How do I investigate?** = Answered before, without looking at the question theres so much that could possibly be needed it might take me too long to bother drawing up an answer and thinking of all possible solutions.

**Which method use for granting sudo** = I actually clicked it. Was quite interesting in the answers, but I have no means to upvote without knowing if its a good answer / investigation into ubuntus way of handling things.

ewwhite

20:50

Oh, i just skim

and then I get emails on the hot tags I care about

Iain

@ewwhite 'here' the glaciers made valleys and cut the tops off qll the mountains at 3000ft

ewwhite

then there's this...

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Q: Server have 6 harddisk, how to set daily full backup/clone harddisk?

i have a HP DL380 server, its have 6 harddisk, @72Gb each, i am planning to use centos + cpanel please suggest how to set daily full backup/daily clone harddisk? so if 1 main harddisk is broken, i got the backup/clone in the backup harddisk, just need to use the cloned harddisk, or restore it...

backup hard-drive clone daily

Iain

here is in north Wales where I'll be tomorrow ~ 20-50 miles away. Locally glaciers left us with clay

ewwhite

@Iain so you have mountains, too?

Iain

@ewwhite on a global scale they're foothills ~ 3000ft

the passes are ~1500ft

Matthew Ife

20:52

@ewwhite sounds from the question he wants erm, RAID. Not that he doesn't need backups too.

ewwhite

@MatthewIfe The good complex questions just aren't coming as often

BigHomie

@ewwhite All the sccm ones are on social technet

read: cheesy knockoff

ewwhite

but bigger community

voretaq7

@BigHomie . . . Windows Vizsla?

ewwhite

I feel like some discussion about DevOps needs to happen

voretaq7

20:55

@ewwhite Marketing is bad and you should feel bad.

Iain

@MatthewIfe I looked at the sudo question, it had an answer I moved on but its kinda crappy question. The spam - did the same as you - haven't seen the rest and qon't bother either

BigHomie

@voretaq7 ME...too?

Michael Hampton

Hurricane DevOps is just off shore and is going to hit imminently. I hope you've evacuated!

Matthew Ife

@ewwhite partly its because when you're new each question looks as novel as the last one. When you've been here 3 years, you see the same questions asked over and over. A bit like pop music becomes gnawing and irritating after 10 years of bothering to hear it.

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Iain

@ewwhite we see the results of DevOPs on the front page every day the devs throw the ops out and then come to SF and crap all over it

ewwhite

20:58

What are your thoughts on this?

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cisco sfp 10gige

oooh, Onebox doesn't like https.

that's a real question... kinda?

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