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00:12
evenin' gents.
Not sure why I bother answering hopeless questions. Of course, that's most of what we get anymore.
00:29
So what do you linux admins use for network accounts? last I heard it was some form of ldapd w/ pam on the clients. Is that still the case? Any user friendliness going on, like a webbased ldap administration page?
tryin' to get my linux admin up
Anonymous
00:47
@BigHomie long time no see
@BigHomie I keep those in /etc/passwd that's managed with Puppet.
@ewwhite beer time
@BigHomie for non-admin, yeah, ldap plus sss or pam_ldap/nss_ldap. Ldap (openldap) is integrated with a whole identity management thing. I suggest looking at 389 instead of openldap.
@Goatmale Living the dream
And by "Living the dream" I mean trying to explain to a customer why it was bad that they took a forest root domain and child domains, shipped one of the DCs to one location, one of the DCs to another location, cut all communication between the two and have operated them as independent environments for the last three years.
All while in bed because I was "out sick" today, supposedly.
01:12
@ewwhite Ran the test against 2 zfs pools one is with 10K drives and 2 l2arc ssds and just 2 ssds in mirror, these are results:
the upper one is 10K drives pool
01:38
I know I hate big businesses, but sometimes I hate working with small business too.
Company: "I want to do $x with $y"
"Sorry, $x doesn't do $y, you'll need to do $w instead"

Big Business:"Oh, ok, no worries, I'll work around it"
Small Business: "What? Why not? Make it work! I don't want to $w! Make it work the way I want it to!"
@MarkHenderson yes. Because small business owners are the Dunning-Kruger-ites of the business world.
The people from big business are used to working within parameters and dealing with red tape and working in specific workflows, but people in small businesses are used to being in charge
They know how to do one thing well, so they assume that skill applies equally well to everything.
@Magellan Just googled that. That is a totally appropriate analogy
@MarkHenderson yeah, I worked as the computer repair guy for a small company for a year.
01:40
I'm going to educate everyone in our company about the Dunning–Kruger effect and who specifically in outr clients it affects (90% of them)
The CPA thought she was hot shit because she renamed the kill command to 'zap'.
@Magellan Hah been there done that, but I worked in the poor area of town where everyone knew they were hopeless
@MarkHenderson something to be said for that, I suppose.
Dunning–Kruger syndrome we call sometimes in russia, i remember i confronted one coworker that he had that, he never talked to me since.
@Magellan Best one I had was a mother who came into the store in tears "MY SON HAS BEEN DOWNLOADING PORN. SO MUCH PORN. PLEASE, delete all the porn!"
So I cloned the drive and then deleted all the porn
01:41
lol
it must of been true then.
@DanilaLadner Sounds like a good solution to get people to stop talking to you
I should try it
yeah, i guess.
I also had an over-sharer who was from the middle east in his 30s, married to a white woman in her 60's who told me their marriage was just for convenience and they really hated eachother, but that was OK because they had seperate bedrooms but they would still fuck occasionally anyway
lol
that's miserable.
01:47
Oh and the one rich guy who profited off all the poor people. He was a property developer who used to rock up in his 911 Turbo and would buy 21" LCD monitors (this was 2002 when a 1600x1200 21" LCD was like $3500)
@danila explain
And would laugh at how he could build anything he wanted because he knew which palms to grease, and would build ghettos and collect rent
What did you test @danila?
zfs volumes
from dif pools.
@ewwhite I am still at work, gotta go home. we'll talk tomorrow.
So what was better?
02:02
@ewwhite 10K drives
but it is 12 of them
plus l2arc cache
the top is 10K the bottom result is ssd
Which SSD were you using?
L2arc won't help with Bonnie.
You may want to look at the arcstat.py script on the server.
the pcie ones.
I wouldn't cheer for the Habs even if they were playing al-Qaeda.
my test creates a 80 gigabyte file which could not fit into RAM or ZFS ARC even with compression.
seems about right.
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come follow us, it'll be a blast
see, I have one follower so I can say "us" and be grammatically correct
02:33
@strugee I guess you gotta ask "Why are these questions not suitable for the other sites in the network"
If you're having a specific problem with a decentralised service, why can't you ask it on sf?
or better yet SO?
how come SE cannot find reliab.engineer for like 6 months?
aren't they in NYC?
should be plenty of talent.
@DanilaLadner They hired @ShaneMadden
They got one
And if their standards are actually anything like what they claim, they would rather reject a bunch of great candidates who might not quite fit the bill than hire someone who is not so great
oh i see.
rangers are in stanley finals
02:57
@MarkHenderson We're still looking for someone to be networking focused. I think the tricky part of that has been that we also need someone with enough windows and linux skills to be able to be on call
@ShaneMadden How much network focussed?
And would you hire an aussie? ;)
My argument for hiring me is to reduce your on-call rotations because I'm in business hours while most of America is after hours or the middle of the night
@ShaneMadden Then you're smoking really good dope.
@ShaneMadden My company has spent nearly a year just looking for a really good network engineer, let alone someone who's good enough with both WINDOWS and LINUX.
@MarkHenderson Enough network focused to own the network infrastructure. I believe for this one it needs to be someone in NYC though - so I guess you'd need to be interested in a big move ;)
@ShaneMadden My wife and I went through that discussions when I interviewed with Fog Creek a few years ago. Got to the final stage, interviewed with Michael Pryor, but lost out because their lead sysadmin went to Twitter so their priorities shifted at the last minute
We were totally up for it then, but we've had a 2nd kid now and bought a bigger house and need to keep our feet planted for the next few years, so maybe I'll check back in 2020
@Magellan Heh, well.. we'll see how it goes
03:08
@Magellan You need to hire me then
@MarkHenderson Heh, fair enough!
@MarkHenderson No, Shane's looking to hire. We're looking for a pure Linux guy in your town or down the coast.
@Magellan Blegh, yeah I'm more Windows than Linux. I can get around in Linux so far as reading /var/log and googling errors and tracing things down like that
But that's about it
I would love to see the look on my boss's face if I told him I was interviewing for a NY job again though
Last time I got a nice payrise out of it
yeah, I think we have 5 open positions in the team.
@MarkHenderson score!
@MarkHenderson You wouldn't happen to be really good with MySQL would you?
@Magellan He asked me what it would cost for me to stay, and I told him that no amount would keep me from working at FC. Even if he paid equal to them I would still go
And hwen I told him I was staying, I got a nice bump as a thankyou
@Magellan I... would not
03:13
@MarkHenderson forgot we're hiring one of those locally too.
hiring like mad and can barely keep up with the growth.
@Magellan If you haven't paid $35,000 in licensing for your database engine, then I'm not your guy
I'm probably not your guy even if you have, come to think of it
@MarkHenderson oh, we're paying for the commercial version alright. no idea how much tho
And I believe that Stack Exchange have Brent Ozar on fucking speed dial
03:27
@MarkHenderson @MichaelHampton it's not about problems deploying them, it's about the design and the protocols
questions about deploying one are specifically off-topic IMO because they belong here
@MarkHenderson They have seriously awesome contacts on speed dial.
03:57
@Jacob I'd like to come and work for them just so I can absorb knowledge from the sweat of their ballsacks
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I would just follow them around all day like a puppy
@ShaneMadden hmmph
@ewwhite Know a good bike ship in the forest park / oak park area?
Bob
Bob
@MarkHenderson You have a weird idea of puppies.
When's the last time you saw puppies near sweaty ballsacks?
Don't answer that.
@Goatmale Yes... Lick Bike
04:11
@ewwhite Who calls thier company Lick Bike?!
Do they go around licking bikes?
slurp!
@Bob I was thinking more of a sub/dom relationship where when Brent Ozar says "suck" I say "how deep?" and then he has me on a chain and I follow him around panting
will they do small stuff? I bought this crappy bike http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Kabuto-Single-Speed-Frame/dp/B0041QF9EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401423092&sr=8-1&keywords=bike+kabuto
and the tires deflate immediately after pumping air in them and everything is lose because I put it together terrible.
loose. it is a rather lose situation though
04:22
Glad to see we're still making reiserfs jokes ^_^
05:07
OK so Apple's security questions are fucking stupid
Which of the cars you've owned has been your favorite?
Where was your least favorite job?
I have no idea what I would have written for those things? I've had lots of jobs that I hated
And as for cars, they've all just been cars. And I don't remember when I set the questions so maybe my favourite car has changed in the last 7 years
Did I write down its license plate? Or its model? Or maybe its VIN?
Fuck you Help:

> After resetting your security questions, consider turning on two-step verification. With two-step verification, you don't need security questions to secure your account or verify your identity.
THATS WHAT IM TRYING TO DO
ENABLE 2FA
FING AHOLES
Bob
Bob
05:24
@MarkHenderson I think I've answered "N/A" to >90% of my security questions.
And now that I've told all of you, please don't steal my accounts -_-
Fun days, fun days, I get to try to mitigate a slowloris attack...
@Bob I tried "fuck off" which is my standard security answer
@MarkHenderson: Its apple.
@Bob nginx reverse-proxy
or just use the event MPM
also, your mom sounds like a suitable answer to all their security questions.
...which you probably should do anyway.
Bob
Bob
05:27
@tylerl It's for a tomcat app server.
I want to use nginx.
But I've been told to use httpd.
Best part? We run full Windows here.
Hm. Might as well use IIS...
@Bob This is on a Windows server?
That's pretty f-ed up, dude.
I've never understood the difference between Tomcat and httpd...
Bob
Bob
@tylerl You don't say?
@strugee Tomcat deals with Java servlets, etc..
I should DuckDuckGo it
@Bob ah. sounds horrifying.
Bob
Bob
httpd deals with, well, a generic webserver/HTTP requests/mod_php/FastCGI/etc..
05:28
@strugee both are managed by the apache foundation. Tomcat is a service for running java apps as web servers.
httpd is the original apache project.
@tylerl right, I knew they were Apache, and I've worked with httpd before. but I've never had a reason to touch Tomcat.
/me shrugs
Bob
Bob
@strugee Lucky you.
@strugee You familiar w/ IIS and .NET?
Tomcat is like the .net application pool
sorta
@tylerl no. thank God.
and besides, I have neither the finances nor the desire to pay for a license for Windows Server.
IIS is not that bad. I don't know why it cops so much hate
05:31
@Bob indeed.
Sure, IIS6 sucked pretty hard, but since then it's been pretty good
@MarkHenderson cost/benefit
@MarkHenderson it's made by Microsoft so I automatically assume that it's poorly-designed, opaque and just generally hard to work with
@tylerl Cost: Well I already have a Windows DC license
@MarkHenderson also, running an IIS server is so much more of a headache.
there's really no comparison
Bob
Bob
05:32
@tylerl Same could be said for anything you're unfamiliar with.
and as @tylerl said, why would I buy Windows Server when I could just run Apache httpd on a Debian stable box
@strugee Oh god you're one of them
if you do both, you tend to hate IIS
Bob
Bob
Personally, I favour nginx.
@strugee Sure, but why would you hate on IIS if you've never used it?
Bob
Bob
05:32
Given the choice between IIS and httpd, I'm not sure which I'd choose.
Probably IIS, cause, y'know, running on Windows and all.
I've been running lighttpd ;p
@MarkHenderson unashamedly
@Bob i'm talking about if you're very familiar with both systems.
@strugee May I suggest that you become a bit more tolerant in your early years
@Bob: meh, as long as you arn't doing something braindead like running it on a consumer varient of windows...
05:33
Different strokes for different folks
@Bob IIS really only makes sense if it's the only thing you know.
@MarkHenderson habit, I guess. I strongly dislike Windows in general (for technical and ethical reasons) and I guess I just kind of extended that to IIS
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Welllllllllllll (no, I'm not :P)
Need I remind you that the main Stack Exchange stack is IIS and SQL Server and .NET
well could get worse
05:33
@MarkHenderson that would probably be a good idea
@MarkHenderson I try not to think about it
:P
So you can't tell me that it's not fast. And not scalable. And unstable.
I once supported a custom python app, that needed apache, and mysql.... on windows XP.
(I almost reached @HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork levels of disgruntlement then)
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Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek No. Just no.
@MarkHenderson I never said any of those things
@Bob: we really ought to have run it on linux ;p
05:35
@MarkHenderson you could.
I mean honestly, it's not like I'm one of those people who hates Microsoft just because. I actually have reasons.
@MarkHenderson: one might argue its an exception, not a rule, and that SE has very smart people who have insanely good skills.
and for God's sake, at least I don't spell it "Micro$oft". that's gotta count for something.
@JourneymanGeek And it takes smart people with good skills to run apache/nginx sucesfully at a large scale too
05:36
micro$oft winblows!
And also SE is comparatively small ... say in comparison to youtube or netflix or amazon
@MarkHenderson: True.
@tylerl: very different needs though
@JourneymanGeek Exactly the point.
(and to shave a hairy chestnut, the best platform is the one you know.)
@strugee Your reasons I don't see as particularly valid. Now I don't exactly have a boner over Microsoft products - I believe in right tool, right job - but before I pile on the hate bandwagon I make sure I have valid reasons
05:37
and if its not the one you have, you either change that, or learn the one you do ;p
SE has relatively few servers and scales vertically instead of horizontally.
Hand-wavey generic statements like "I assume it's poorly designed" aren't good enough
@MarkHenderson I haven't listed them
6 mins ago, by strugee
@MarkHenderson it's made by Microsoft so I automatically assume that it's poorly-designed, opaque and just generally hard to work with
@strugee: Thats how I feel about apple's software on non apple platforms ;p
05:39
@MarkHenderson You could say things like "core components such as the terminal interface never get improved because of soap-opera-scale internal politics within the company". It's not quite the same thing, but you end up in the same place.
@MarkHenderson that wasn't me trying to list actual reasons. that was me making general hand-wavey description-y statements.
Which is why you have a new, fresh iteration on the concept of shared component access every 2 to 5 years, each one getting abandoned and supplanted rather than getting updated.
@MarkHenderson if desired I will list them with excruciating verbosity
@tylerl Right cos Linux has one window manager to rule them all. No fighting between Gnome, or KDE, or Unity
Because you're all on the same page with no infighting
@MarkHenderson freedesktop.org
05:49
@MarkHenderson that's different because they're concurrently-developed options. You don't have a single company pointing at one and saying YOU DIE, YOU LIVE.
@strugee That's not even a website, that's just a directory listing
@MarkHenderson I know, I changed it. for some reason they serve the directory listing over SSL.
Anyway I'm just saying that Open Source has its own share of problems, if you're gunna go piling on the hate train to any closed source codebase, at least be honest about it in regards to your own preferences
@MarkHenderson the problem isn't the closed-source nature. They could use that to their advantage if the company encouraged it. The problem is that each team has its own fiefdom that it controls, and competes with the other teams. If the office team discovers an issue and needs to make a change to the OS common controls, they can't just push the fix -- they have to find someone on the OS team willing to do it for them.
Rather than going through the trouble, they build their own alternative implementation. So you end up with TWO implementations of the common controls shipped by the same company. But one only is used in Office.
ultimately it's all about perspective and what you value
05:55
(hypothetically -- this probably actually happened, but I don't have specific references in the case of common controls)
Most closed-source companies aren't this pathological. And Microsoft might not be anymore.
Not sure with the new CEO
G'day
e.g. I probably value the ethics of software more than anybody else in this room, since I buy into rms's stuff. although I'm not as extreme as he is (few are).
you, on the other hand, don't. so I dislike MS on an ethical level whereas you don't.
@strugee Yikes.
and of course, I have the luxury of doing that because I don't need to work.
RMS is a little.... He does his own thing.
05:59
@tylerl gee, thanks.
Not a lot of people are on board with RMS.
@tylerl like I said, I'm not an extremist :P
I'd like all software to be free and I do my best to use free software but I make a lot of compromises
@strugee There's a reason why Stallman's revolution was stolen by Torvalds. Stallman fought for principles above all. But in the end, open source only makes sense if you can make a business case for it.
which is more than a little ironic
06:14
@tylerl yeah. tragic.
06:34
Morning
good morning
06:58
FWIW: I'm not a fan of the clock widget that ships w/ KDE. I liked the GTK one more.
speicfically I like the GTK calendar pop-up more.
That said, KDE 5 >> GNOME 3 or Unity.
Bob
Bob
@tylerl Wait, KDE 5?
@Bob sry -- KDE4... QT5.
it's be nice if they kept it consistent
Windowmaker FTW.
ratpoison!
@MichaelHampton when you're about poke me please I have a question for you.
07:27
lol
I'm mostly using linux through putty these days
@JourneymanGeek I'm sorry to hear that; I hope you get better soon!
@JennyD: Well, I do that fairly often, and quite a lot of useful stuff I use are self-hosted webapps
I'm not sure if I bitched about it before, but I finally after 3 months of bitching got my dad's domain transferred.
@JourneymanGeek I would feel crippled if I had to do all my work fron a windows box
@JennyD: oh, I can walk over to a linux box, or reboot.
I just don't have anything that I can't do over putty at the moment
@JourneymanGeek Well, I probably could do all my stuff over putty. But I really really hope I never have to.
07:34
@JennyD: or ssh in or...
(anything that needs linux runs on its own box, which is reliable enough I don't need to really bother it so much ;p)
I used to, and still could run linux as a primary system
The recent SE podcast is quite interesting to listen to - it shows that they are thinking about and have spent time trying to improve the experience for higher rep users
Bob
Bob
Verdict: Apache httpd with mpm_winnt is absolutely useless against slowloris, mod_antiloris or not.
nginx stands up well, but I haven't had a chance to hit it with goloris yet.
Also, I really hope I can get a linux server :\
08:13
sup
08:25
@Iain Had the best birthday ever yesterday, just the perfect day for me
@Chopper3 Oooh many happy returns - what's that 44 ?
What did you get up to ?
@Iain Nah, I was 45 :(
Meh you'll get over it - in about 12 months ;)
@Iain Just had a nice day, went to the airsoft gun shop, got loads of bits, went home and spent two hours stripping guns down to fit them all, played a bit of 'watch dogs' then, and this may surprise you, saw McBusted who were just amazing
I don't know McBusted
08:29
@Iain it's that combination of mcfly and busted, just a really good night
I googled it with a certain trepidation as you have a certain erm, reputation ;)
08:41
@Iain :)
@PatoSáinz, yep, Eastern Standard Time here, so there's that
@Chopper3 I got paid today. I'm considering gettting Watch Dogs. Worth it?
@Iain that's what incognito mode is for :)
@tombull89 not really played it enough yet, some aspects of it are immediately impressive but why not ready some reviews for now, maybe wait a week?
The reviews I have read put it around the 75-85 score. I'll probably wait a bit until the price drops down on Steam.
08:51
@DennisKaarsemaker yeah but I have a sensitive disposition too ;)
@tombull it doesn't live up to the hype. Driving mechanics suck, hard. But so far I'm satisfied with my money's worth.
@tombull89 just don't want to recommend it on only an hour's play mate
09:59
Driving really sucks and pretty much everything that needs an ubisoft server is painfully slow. But other than that it's really fun
 
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11:24
Mornin
morning
@tombull89 I'm really enjoying watchdogs fwiw. I've turned off all the online play elements mind you, because fuck other people, but for me I'm really enjoying it
@faker has a point about the driving mind you. I'm getting used to it but it could be better.
11:55
@Iain I don't know anything!
@RobM Apparently the pirated one that's been going around on torrent sites has a bitcoin miner hidden in it
@NathanC I heard that too. Luckily I pre-purchased mine from Amazon before the price of mainstream games went up by £10/$20 as it seems to have done now.
@NathanC given how much resources watchdogs uses, I can't imagine the bitcoin miner getting much change from their efforts anyway
jeez dont you just hate exchange db corruptions
:@
I quite like them. Never had one of my own, so to speak. Been paid lots of money on the side to fix other people's.
@RobM True, but it also ran after the game was closed already
11:59
sorry @ColdT not helping, I know.
Also, since most games (including watchdogs) don't use all cores, it's easy enough to hide a miner behind it
that would do it, Nathan, I think.
true
@RobM simple ones yeah not too bad, use the panic switch!
The ironic thing is that they could probably say up front "you know what, the cost of using our pirated copy of watchdogs is that we're gonna run a bitcoin miner on your system while you pay" and people would probably still go for it.
@RobM i got the dreaded JET_errKeyDuplicate Illegal duplicate key error :(
12:01
@ColdT not good then :-(
wasn't bitcoin hacked a few months ago?
@ColdT Nope
@RobM that was after using eseutil /p
@ColdT I've used Kroll Ontrack's power tools before now to get data out of a corrupted exchange db. http://www.krollontrack.com/software/powercontrols/.

Not what you'd call cheap but less expensive than "our email's totally fucked".
@MichaelHampton maybe misread it
@RobM used it in the past for forensic, very nifty tool
12:03
@ColdT Bitcoin has never been "hacked". But web sites have been hacked and bitcoins stolen.
@MichaelHampton that's what i probably read few months back, but i reckon it's only a matter of time...
Mt Gox had all its bitcoins stolen. I don't think anyone outside of Mt Gox itself knows exactly what was going on there.
@RobM I still suspect it was an inside job
@MichaelHampton yes, me too. The levels of incompetence required otherwise just beggar belief.
@RobM was an old employee from the clues left behind
12:06
At the very least someone must have been paid to do something creative with the access logs, you would think.
@ColdT or that, yes.
Who hacked Mt.Gox? The leak contains some clues. A visit to the above-mentioned mirror brings a link to the zip file and a note: “I hated working with you. You deserve everything you get for what you did.”
or that could just be a diversion of attention to the real culprit, who knows
Either way, it's the poster child for why banks aren't maybe quite as bad as people think and why decentralised crypto currency might not be a panacea.

Which - as much I'm definitely a cynic about the viability of bitcoin - is a real slap in the face to the good people involved in it that are trying hard to make it work.
@RobM Banks are very good at keeping people's money safe. That doesn't mean they're perfect. They have to do whatever the government tells them to do, so you have absolutely no privacy, for instance.
oh yes, absolutely. But I think most people would rather their money was a little bit safer than their privacy a little bit more protected from their own govt.
Of course some of them don't realise until they put their life savings into bitcoins on mt gox because they saw a news article about how kewl and rad and cloudy bitcoins are, then go crying to their local finance regulatory authority about losing all their money.
@RobM Most people would, that is true. Of course nothing is safer than bitcoins on your own USB stick right in your own pocket. Assuming, of course, that you know how to secure your computer.
@RobM Now those people are just idiots.
12:17
Well yes, but given that an economy is based around the movement of money as well as the simple existence of money, you need the idiots to get on board with your new crypto currency because the smart people who know enough to make their own intelligent calls on the matter are too few in number to keep the currency churning.
@RobM I say they're idiots, because it's Investor 101 that you don't invest more than you're prepared to lose, and even the bitcoin community repeats this warning every damn day.
And I would agree with you. Believe me, I'm not defending the idiots.

But we both know they're out there. Making poor decisions on things they don't understand. Blaming others for the consequences. Getting listened to by politicians because they're too many to ignore. Hell, how many people really understand 'conventional' money? How many people have you heard referring to a loan or other credit they haven't even got yet as "my money" as if it was an entitlement?
It's a problem with any new system. We know this as sysadmins and developers. You can't just design for the best, or even the average person using your system. You need to design for the worst. You need to make allowances for the fact that if everyone hops on board then the average user may well be a halfwit.
@RobM Oh yes, they're out there and they do that shit.
yup
The "cloud" wasn't designed for halfwits...
12:24
nope but it's sure used by them ;-)
Sorry, I'm feeling especially cynical today
The core clients (that I've seen, on PC and Android) are easy enough to use. It's when you give your money to other people for safekeeping that you run into issues.
yep
though again the problem is that for the average person, they can't tell the difference between the safe and unsafe tools.
I found it hilarious that so many people who'd been all "government should have nothing to do with my money" then suddenly went all "government should give my money back to me"
@RobM Thus our advice to treat them all as unsafe. The standing advice given by the community is to not transfer anything into such services unless you're about to make a transaction, and then to empty it out afterward.
To a non technical user that "super happy spyware removal program no honest, really it does, not spyware AT ALL I purple pony promise you.exe" program that comes up first in a google search for "security" is totally indistinguishable from norton antivirus.
@JennyD exactly.
12:28
I had about half a US cent in Mt. Gox. I won't miss it.
Like the people who scream "the police are pigs" until they get home and realise someone's broken into their house...
@RobM Here we just shoot the home invaders and call the police to pick up the bodies...
sounds much simpler. But you still see the point I'm getting at, I know.
@RobM Oh of course.
12:35
spokesman.com/stories/2014/may/11/… "You're probably going to prison for 10 years and no, you can't defend yourself." 'merica
@BigHomie that's kinda depressing
@RobM Yep, I know it's gotten worse but to see the exact same area mapped over several years is extremely depressing. I hope it gets better soon, and hope I'm around to see it thrive like it did before my time
yep
Northwest Detroit actually has nice looking neighborhoods, one of the better sections of Detroit
Bob
Bob
@BigHomie The house in the middle... it just... disappeared...
12:40
@Bob On Hoyt? Wow, it sure did
> The last neighbor left six months ago, he said, and the single streetlight overhead has not worked for months. “I love the quiet, but if something went wrong, the city isn’t going to come
12:56
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Q: Best practice on Linux servers and CPU/power throttling?

ValentinI am running a couple of Debian 6 (2.6.32) and 7 (3.2) Linux servers and all of them have energy saving settings enabled in their BIOS. Furthermore Linux shows that the CPUs are throttled if the servers are idling. I wonder if this could cause any harm - could there be e.g. performance impacts b...

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@DennisKaarsemaker Do you do anything special with power management?
@ewwhite yes, I don't buy low-power kit 'cause it doesn't perform

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