The Comms Room

Basil

00:07

Had a tooth extraction instead of a root canal :(

first one

this sucks

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson So. You dealt with Lync much?

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack Nope, this will be my first one

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson I thought so.

@MarkHenderson Mac much?

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack Greenfield installation, free everything from Microsoft

@ScottPack 1/3

Scott Pack

Word of advice.

Mark Henderson

00:11

Well, free everything software from Microsoft. Gotta pay for the desk phones, networking, etc

Scott Pack

If you're using Lync on a Mac...don't ever...EVAR...put in or unplug a headset.

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack o..kay...

Scott Pack

Also don't put your machine to sleep.

Ry Jones

@ScottPack how about "don't use Lync on a Mac"

Scott Pack

Or click on the app more than once ever few seconds.

Mark Henderson

00:11

@ScottPack That bad?

Scott Pack

Lynch for Mac is awfully crash-tastic.

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Mark Henderson

Darn

Well the only mac fags are the graphics girls

And I don't thikn they will be using it too much

Scott Pack

It's possible they fixed this little bit in 2013 but at least in 2010 the clients obtain their edge server based on DNS round robin and pin to that server.

I'd look into Lync aware load balancers.

mossy

Over night shipping underwear because i don't want to do laundry.

sigh

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack Ugh yeah I have read a lot about how Lync discovers its endpoints

And about how you need a UC Cert becaues a wildcard is rejected by most phones, and if you do do a wildcard the wildcard needs to be in the SAN portion, not the CN portion, which means that you still have to buy a UC cert

@mossy Do you not have an internal laundry?

mossy

00:16

@MarkHenderson Nope. At the shop

Washer started smoking last week

Decided it's time to call a pro.

Mark Henderson

@mossy Bugger

I had a Bosch for 7 years before the belt slipped off and I put it back and it slipped off and I put it back and it slipped off and I put it back and it slipped off and I put it on ebay and some handyman bought it and I bought an LG directdrive with no fucking belts

mossy

haha

@MarkHenderson You ever been to a laundromat? Terrible experience.

I will over night all of my clothes for a month before I go back there.

Mark Henderson

@mossy Nope

They only really exist in the inner city suburbs, which is somewhere I've never lived

Pretty much everything ever built here has an internal laundry

Or at least a common laundry somewhere in the building

mossy

We need to take you out some time. @ScottPack and I. We'll go get pie, hit up a few laundromats

it'll be a good time.

Mark Henderson

@mossy Sounds... like a plan?

Michael Hampton

00:23

Oh look, I just got a shiny badge

Mark Henderson

Seriously though I suspect most of you wouldn't like me in real life

mossy

@MarkHenderson probably not.

@MarkHenderson (kidding)

Mark Henderson

@mossy I'm not. My wife tells me I'm unbearably irritating in real life and my jokes aren't funny and I talk too much

Oh and I'm too loud and I drink too much when I go out

cole

I'm probably the opposite of how I am in here in real life.

well not 100% opposite - just more weird

and awkward.

mossy

I'm what they call.. "grumpy"

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I've been working on it though.

cole

00:29

@mossy I too, am grumpy

My boss let me leave at 3:30 today because I was so grumpy

Mark Henderson

@cole Seriously?

Man I've been told to take a break or defer work, but I never go tto go home for being grumpy :p

cole

@MarkHenderson I said "I'm in a really bad mood and I just want to go home before I punch someone in the mouth." he said "Ok go! it's already 3:30!"

Holocryptic

@cole did he say you could come back?

cole

@Holocryptic he'd cry if I didn't come back

mossy

@Holocryptic haha.

cole

00:31

I'm 99.999% sure he would, at least.

mossy

I think it would be interesting to work somewhere like Blizzard.

cole

He just knows I'm going through some stressful stuff right now.

mossy

I would love to join their ops team. I'd get coffee. Sweep. Whatever.

Mark Henderson

@cole sOUNDS LIKE your lsat 10 years have been pretty stressful

cole

@MarkHenderson Most of the 27 actually have been

Journeyman Geek

00:33

@Holocryptic who else would wrangle the NT systems ;p

cole

The last 10 though have been tough - the last 3.5 even tougher.

Holocryptic

@JourneymanGeek I've got enough on my plate

@mossy I'd even do toilets. I've been on a Diablo 3 kick recently

Journeyman Geek

unrelatedly, and because this is the only place I'm on with people who ride bikes... satwcomic.com/how-to-use-a-bike (rest of the comic can occationally be NSFW)

mossy

@Holocryptic The amount of hours on my d3 account.. is depressing.

Ry Jones

@cole when you coming to Seattle to kill beer

Journeyman Geek

00:36

@Holocryptic: eh, I've been dithering on the expansion. DIII didn't hit the right notes for me.

cole

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@RyJones flight is Wednesday at 6:45AM

Holocryptic

@JourneymanGeek You need the expansion. It completely changes the game for the better

Ry Jones

how long are you in town?

Journeyman Geek

Most of the other recent games in the genre I've played have been awesome

Holocryptic

@mossy I hear you

Journeyman Geek

00:37

@Holocryptic: I'll probably take a look when I'm done with POE ;p

cole

@RyJones I leave 7:45AM Tuesday, the 10th

Journeyman Geek

(which somehow does a LOT of the things that annoyed me about DIII, yet...)

@Holocryptic: I think the biggest PITA was lag in single player games ;p

mossy

@Holocryptic fresh from xpac - us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/mossy-1988/hero/41913383

Holocryptic

@JourneymanGeek I felt the same way before the expansion. I didn't want to have to play through the same content over and over again. With bounties and adventures it's fucking amazing now

Ry Jones

@cole great! I'm busy that weekend but we can kill beer at some point

Journeyman Geek

00:38

I did upgrade my network, and it works a lot better now but... seriously... I DO NOT NEED LAG WHEN I AM PLAYING WITH MYSELF.

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cole

@RyJones yeah def let me know!

Ry Jones

interviews?

cole

This is my vacation and I'm super excited.

Ry Jones

even better.

mossy

@JourneymanGeek It's a lot better now (at least in the US)

Holocryptic

00:39

@mossy Ooo thats nice. I haven't had the balls to go hardcore yet

Journeyman Geek

@Holocryptic: asia. Its probably partially my network

Holocryptic

@JourneymanGeek I hear that. I think it's gotten better. Though if you're in asia I have no idea what the RTT would look like

Journeyman Geek

I moved as many of my systems off wifi as possible cause 2.4ghz is just too crowded, and very little of my gear does 5ghz. I have a lovely hybrid homeplug and ethernet network that works great.

@Holocryptic: I should probably talk to my DIII crazy friend about that ;p

but yeah, not a massive priority

BigHomie

PSA: Truecrypt could be compromised.

Journeyman Geek

@BigHomie: thats a strange compromise

and queue fork in 3...2....1....

cole

00:42

@RyJones yeah I'm super excited - my first vacation ever, in my life.

BigHomie

Mobile chat is a lot better, this is nice

cole

@mossy

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Journeyman Geek

@BigHomie: I haven't used stock mobile chat in a while

I'm a chatsey fanboy ;p

BigHomie

Can't see star wall, IT'S WORTHLESS.

Holocryptic

@mossy us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Holocryptic-1170/hero/44886317

Journeyman Geek

00:44

(alas, I cannot convince the author to do a metro port)

BigHomie

It's weird, the site's been re directed to a source forge page, you think it's deliberate @journeymangeek??

Journeyman Geek

@BigHomie: I seem to recall they were hosted on SF anyway

honestly, there's just too much Internet Speculation.

One can't be sure, especially where the truecrypt authors were fairly anonymous.

BigHomie

Good Point

mossy

@Holocryptic nice.

@cole haha i saw that.

cole

@mossy I know how I'm spending my Friday night's now

BigHomie

00:56

theregister.co.uk/2014/05/28/truecrypt_hack

Journeyman Geek

meh

el reg is a rag

'We ran the executable in a virtual machine so that you don't have to, and on Windows 8.1 it was blocked by the SmartScreen feature, suggesting it may contain malware." <-- windows 8 does that with nearly any software it isn't familiar with

BigHomie

What if the dev got hit by a bus

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie I inherited a project from a dead guy once

Classic ASP

Access database

Huge fucking mess

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson that sounds terrible, that mess should have died with him

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson The real problem with that is, since the former developer is already dead, you can't kill him.

Scott Pack

01:04

@mossy That won't be my worst date but it won't be my best either.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Yeah he was an indian off-shorer

So the sparse comments were all in broken english

And then his Dad didn't want to release the code at all, because the company hadn't paid him for a lot of his work

Should have taken that as a red flag, because then we didn't get paid

(so we just shut his shit down and he tried to sue us so we just gave him the goddamn code, told him to fuck off, and cut our losses)

Journeyman Geek

01:23

@BigHomie: eh. Everyone needs to plan for The Bus.

@MarkHenderson: This is why we need necromancy. That way we can bring him back to life then kill him. A few times.

mossy

@MichaelHampton Reading about truecrypt on reddit.

"Assumption #2 Something bad happened to TrueCrypt developers (i.e. take down or death)"

oh reddit

Scott Pack

It's on reddit so it must be true.

mossy

Oh they stopped dev? Must be dead.

Michael Hampton

Oh, fuck TrueCrypt.

I dunno what happened, but that is NOT the way you shut down a long-running and widely known and used open source project.

mossy

@MichaelHampton pay.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/26pz9b/…

Journeyman Geek

01:28

@MichaelHampton: Its not the typical ragequit either

mossy

seems a bit odd

Journeyman Geek

@mossy: they also broke the latest version completely it seems

mossy

something fucky going on

Journeyman Geek

You can't use it to encrypt files any more

Scott Pack

Fuck TrueCrypt

Journeyman Geek

01:31

@ScottPack: meh, it had its purposes

Scott Pack

My favorite was when I saw TrueCrypt used for whole disk on Windows servers.

BigHomie

Truecrypt ~~was?~~ is dope

And if that server had phi on it @scottpack .... well, then....

Scott Pack

Well then use an appropriate tool. Not using TrueCrypt is very different from Not Using Encryption.

Windows Server? Fucking Bitlocker that.

Key Escrow bitches.

Journeyman Geek

@ScottPack: well, it was nice for cross platform portable containers

and every.damned.forensics.class has a truecrypt container somewhere in their assignment VMs ;p

Mark Henderson

IIRC Microsoft does not recommend TPM-only bitlocker deployments

They (used to) recommend TPM + passcode or USB authentication

Scott Pack

01:41

Natch.

I wouldn't expect them to recommend anything less.

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack So then you can't really schedule a reboot of a server

You'd be silly to use the USB format in a server - because steal the server, you're also stealing th ekey

Which leaves passcode. Who wants to enter a passcode every time they reboot their server?

Scott Pack

Whole disk is always an odd situation anyway because really the only threat vector it's properly good against is physical theft or access.

Generally not much of an issue on servers. At least not if your servers are in an actual place that's worth putting them as opposed to most of @ewwhite's clients.

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack This is true

Journeyman Geek

@ScottPack: theft primarily. Access is probably taken care of by other things.

Mark Henderson

If your shit is high value enough then you probably have an armed guard outside the only entrace to the server room

(one of our previous DC's actually had this. Between reception and the airlock was an armed guard and you had to sign in to someone sitting behind bulletproof glass)

Scott Pack

01:44

@MarkHenderson That's overstating it a bit, but in this day and age you should have sufficient physical protections for server rooms anyway.

Journeyman Geek

or of course, government seizure, but thats why you can be compelled to give passwords by law in civilised places, and by wrench when it isn't.

(of course, I'm pretty certain local LEO has very few trained forensics guys)

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson No, you also have Network Unlock

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek Depending on your L, yeah.

@JourneymanGeek At my old job 2 other guys and I were the forensics for LEO. :)

Journeyman Geek

@ScottPack: I had a few local police in my classes ;p

Mark Henderson

> Applies To: Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012, Windows Server 2012 R2

Interesting, this is newer than my knowledge

Last I looked at it was prior to 2012

Scott Pack

01:46

@JourneymanGeek Not that surprising to me. The department that taught IT stuff at ye olden university typically had 1 or 2 active police per term.

Journeyman Geek

@ScottPack: I've seen about 2 total

and they didn't really have the sort of knowledge I'd expect from someone who's familiar with the field

(I did do a module or 2 on forensics in my last school prior to the whole breakdown thing so I was slightly more familiar with the subject. Totally different software package, but prodiscover (which my school uses) is more student friendly than encase)

BigHomie

@scottpack protection against physical theft is desired in some cases though

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek We were largely an EnCase shop.

@BigHomie Of course it is.

Michael Hampton

Journeyman Geek

@ScottPack: encase's free edition only works with a specific casefile.

Mark Henderson

01:49

@MichaelHampton Well it's on the books

Journeyman Geek

With prodiscover, our lecturer built his own, so there were a few little things we could socially engineer out of the guy ;p

Scott Pack

@BigHomie That's why I was specifically referring to servers and using phrases like "should" and "typically".

Mark Henderson

This year I'd like to upgrade our DC's to 2012 R2, but just gotta wait for budgetary approval for new licenses

BigHomie

@scottpack I can't reply to specific posts on mobile!

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek We got in a habit of leap-frogging versions to safe on cost. Let me tell you, though, I was freaking floored when I saw a quote for an enterprise license at 10kUSD

Journeyman Geek

01:50

@BigHomie: what sorta phone do you use?

Scott Pack

@BigHomie brokenbydesign

BigHomie

Samsung GS5. I can use desktop mode but everything shows up screwy then

Journeyman Geek

oh

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Q: ChatSEy - An Android App for SE Chat

Screenshot About Completely overhauled styles, including default and dark themes Reply to, star and flag messages Slide-out Sidebar for easy menu/star list access Tweaks to make typing easier (including Return -> Send, @username completion) The app works by injecting extra CSS and JS i...

give this a shot.

desktop mode dosen't scale

mossy

TRUECRYPT IS FINE PLEASE CONTINUE USING FOR ALL SECRET DOCUMENTS

Tweeted by NSA_PR on May 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM

BigHomie

Rofl

@JourneymanGeek So far so good

Journeyman Geek

02:06

@BigHomie: the biggest issue with chatsey is its all stuff I wish they'd have anyway on mobile and regular chat ;p

BigHomie

Exactly

Iain