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19:03
@ewwhite Yo
uptimerobot is free, recommended by the good folks at webmasters.stackexchange.com
@Dan hello
@Dan www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyu2jAD6sdo; ;)
uptimerobot is ok
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Just had dinner - wound up chatting to the table next to me which was 2 carers and their 'patients'. One woman was lovely - she had major trouble speaking and with motor control, turns out she was over 50 and had been struck by a bus when she was 11. Rather puts life into perspective
19:04
so you see that there are two more thin clients.
playing with statuscake now
also, I never modified the DHCP scope
should I have?
Dan
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Nah, the DNS entry works
I think I just added a cname
Dan
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I just do both
So they discovered the HPDM server, and that imaging job completed
19:05
@Dan Why is 'patients' in quotes?
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@BigHomie It didn't seem like the right word
@Dan they have different agent versions
I see
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@ewwhite Yep, that's cos I updated the first one
Are you watching the screen?
@Dan how can that happen automatically?
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19:06
See the three boxes
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The top one is rules which are ran whenever a device FIRST sees the HPDM server
The middle one would be for each boot up
You can put the agent update task (or any task for that matter) in there. Great if you're imaging a large estate, configure the server, sort your image and simply turn on the clients
hmmm
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Can't remember how to filter "all devices"
computers are tough
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19:11
Now, if you were to add another device, the agent would update after it had found the HPDM server.
I'll ask client to unpack another
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You'll have to be patient though - I've started rooms full and some have done it within minutes, other have taken 15 mins plus to sort themselves ou
Want me to update the other two?
one is already updated
I accidentally tweeted that monkey helmet to the Nginx twitter account and not Wesley.
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"huh. thanks for sharing the helmet … are you concerned about head injury when using @nginxorg?"
Dan
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@ewwhite Yeah - wanna go ahead and push to the other two?
@ewwhite By the way, if you want to enable the Windows Firewall, we'll need to look at why it was failing. You'd ideally want to be sat at a client to test, though
19:14
sure... update them
what does that really do?
(I don't understand what the agent version actually means)
Dan
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There's a little agent and service that runs on the Thin Clients, but the one they ship with doesn't always 'match' the version of HPDM you have
Basically, it can break shit (Been there, done that), so always do an update
k, so next client plugged in will automatically update?
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Should do, yup
@Dan makes sense, client and server must be on the same version?
If I could just take a coma right now, I'd be happy.
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19:18
@BigHomie Yeah, but it's oh so fussy and sometimes minor versions matter too
like once, I pushed an image out to a room full of machines and it didn't push the boot sector properly.
I can't quite recall the issue, but I remember vividly it ended up with me going around with a USB which booted to DOS and I used some questionable freeware to rescue them
@dan client is getting an odd licensing error
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@ewwhite In what sense?
@ewwhite Better call the admin
@ewwhite Oh noes! Out of TS licenses. That one drives me nuts.
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19:27
Yeah, are you using device licenses per chance?
I remember there being some odd reason that I'd seen that error once. What was it...
@Dan User licenses
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And the TS box can definitely, 1000% see the licensing server which has available licenses?
Oh, right. The problem was a buggy OS X RDP client.. @ewwhite would that be applicable?
@Dan I'll double check
80 cals
restarting it... since rebooting fixes all
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19:32
:D
@ewwhite That's not true. I've tried rebooting to fix SharePoint 2013, but after rebooting, I still have SharePoint 2013 in my environment.
@Dan So what happens if I plug a Linux thin client in?
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@ewwhite Not sure
If it's got an agent with it, it should just connect, but I've only worked with Windows
Same error
hmm
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Anything in the event log on the terminals erver?
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Could try it as admin, perha
But I'm remote to the thin client... so I can't make the change.
or should I switch to per-device licensing?
what makes sense?
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Well, it has to match the licensing they've paid for
Hard to diagnose without playing at the client though
I bought 80 cals.
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So had you configured these devices they're booting before?
19:44
@Dan ?
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@ewwhite Sorry - is that connection error from one of the Thin Clients?
I just had someone unbox them
@Dan the error is on the thin client
similar to the message seen on the screenshot above
the MS forum question is basically the same issue
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@ewwhite So they've not been set up or anything as such?
@Dan on one of them (the first), I added a connection entry to connect to the terminal server
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Gotchya
Did it work when you did that?
19:46
yes
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Can they connect from other devices?
Yes
the error looks like the MS article I posted above
WTF?
Why don't these things work out of the box?
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Dunno, I do Citrix :D
19:53
Can I do anything about this?
a new one showed up under "HP ThinPro"
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Cool
It will need the same sort of agent config.
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@ewwhite It's going be a struggle off-site to be honest
alright gents, it's my time
see ya'll
@Dan why do you say?
So you're saying that there's no way to make the thin client "hands-off"?
Dan
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19:57
I'm not saying there's no way - I've just always tended to work with sites who have got people on site, or I've gone to site
:(
All I want is to have a connection profile and basic settings applied to new thin clients.
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You really want to be on site for this kind of deployment IMHO
and I can't find good docs on how to achieve that simple step
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Configure one (of each type) how you want it and push out images
Rather than faffing with trying to take specific config
It takes care of sysprep and everything for you - you literally just need to make it work/look how you want.
so I have to fix this registry key?
20:03
Why do websites insist on having auto-playing videos?
gahhh
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@ewwhite If that's the problem - it's just a guess
You can do the key with HPDM, but it seems to imply you need to run stuff as admin
or just have someone modify the image at the customer's site, then somehow import it into HPDM... then export it to other Win 7e clients?
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Q: Why do door knobs still exist?

Mladen JablanovićAs far as I know, in US, grip-and-turn style door knobs are still the most popular, as opposed to lever-style handles, which dominate in the rest of the world. Is there some UX advantage to door knobs that I am not aware of, which is the reason for keeping them around? Edit: To clarify the dif...

See anything wrong here?
client is having mail delivery problems...
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Wrong record type, or am I going mad?
20:08
@ewwhite Seems like one should have an MX record for getting mail..
bingo!!
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@ewww
I mean, mx is a good hostname but..
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@ewwhite Going to come off TeamViewer nwo dude, I hope I've moved you forward a bit at least
lol that's awesome
20:10
@Dan I'll contact you offline. I need your rate. Also to get the agent update configured on the Linux thin client
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@ewwhite Okay mate, I'm finishing over a week solid on the road tomorrow evening so may disappear for a couple of days but I'm never far away.
Anyone seen @tylerl lately? He seemed to have disappeared.
@Dan so can you finish the above or no?
@NathanC He dropped an answer on security.SE yesterday.
20:22
Ah...weird.
@voretaq7 Drunk thing :(
that's not a chimp
hahah that guy with the bread
20:27
Guy> "Bro I told you not to drink all those banana daiquiris - you can't hold your liquor"
Monkey> "OOH OOH <BLERGH> AAAH AAAH AHHH" ("SHUT UP! <vomiting> I love you man!")
Woman> "Oh man the sisters at the research sorority are going to love this!"
THAT'S A CHIMP!
really? how's that even possible. ruining my seamlessness, one step at a time
Banana daiquiri...sounds gross
Monkey> "EEEE EEEEE EEEE EEEE <BLERGH>"
("It tastes worse coming up than it did going down! <vomits>")
@freiheit @mossy sloth!
right click -> search google for this image....
20:30
@BigHomie That does not appear to be a sloth.
woah...I never knew that existed
@BigHomie I'm so confused
TIL sloth is monkey
@BigHomie no toe claws.
@voretaq7 Look closer
20:32
@voretaq7 That is definitely an ape
@voretaq7 Hangover....4?
Left foot. No claws. Right foot, no claws. Hand: no claws.
ergo: Drunk Monkey.
@voretaq7 that's not a sloth
Hair looks like my hair
@BigHomie no, it's not. It's a drunk monkey.
20:33
<< confused, what were you saying wasn't a sloth?
@BigHomie The drunk monkey
I just posted the photo of an educated sloth because SLOTHS!
I assume @mossy was commenting on Drunk Monkey
Lets just forget I said anything.
@mossy Let's just forget that pitcher of banana daiquiris?
20:35
big my bad then, I assumed @mossy was commenting on the back to school sloth
@voretaq7 As soon as possible, yes.
@freiheit THE WALL WILL NEVER FORGET
@voretaq7 Pitcher, or 55-gallon drum?
@ShaneMadden Hey, if you want to drink 55 gallons of vodka-laced banana puree....
Pitcher of beer: awesome idea. Pitcher of margaritas: great as long as you share. Pitcher of strawberry daiquiri: eh, ok. Pitcher of banana daiquiri: nononononono!
20:36
@freiheit banana hater!
Now I want Oberon.
@voretaq7 Yeah, I don't do the banana thing either.
I drink beer and whisky
occasionally wine
@voretaq7 Yeah, bananas are the grossest fruit commonly found in an average american supermarket.
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@freiheit I like bananas.
20:38
@voretaq7 You may not want to drink a whole pitcher of whisky, though...
@freiheit Whisky comes in bottles.
@freiheit How else am I supposed to get a good buzz on?
pitcher of whisky lol
@voretaq7 But mint juleps can come in a pitcher...
Oh hey @tombull89 is here.
20:39
@freiheit Whiskey can come in a pitcher too. Step 1 - open 3 fifths. Step 2 - pour into a pitcher.
mint julep pitcher recipe: tablespoon of sugar, 3 sprigs of mint, 2 bottles of bourbon whisky.
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork why would you do that?
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork Mint juleps are 95% whisky.
@voretaq7 Pitcher has a wider mouth, for easier chugging?
20:40
@freiheit you forgot the ice.
@voretaq7 fun!
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork just means you'll spill. And if you're chugging whisky you're DOING IT WRONG.
@voretaq7 chill the bourbon so you don't water it down with all that ice. :)
If you wanna chug something I've got some reagent grade ethanol around here somewhere.
@voretaq7 How's that? What else you gonna do with cheap whiskey (like Jack Daniels)? Not chug it?
20:41
@freiheit the ice is what keeps it cold on the table in the hot alabama sun.
@voretaq7 Sounds like a party
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork not buy it.
@voretaq7 Also: stay far away from alabama
@ShaneMadden It's all fun and games until the research chimps are puking on the walls.
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@voretaq7 Well, right, but frequently I encounter liquor I haven't bought, which I am allowed to consume, gratis.
20:42
@voretaq7 Then it's AWESOME!!!
@HopelessN00bGeniusofnetwork get better friends who buy better booze.
@freiheit Fine. Kentucky sun.
@voretaq7 I just escaped that, thanks though
@ShaneMadden But where will you drink mint juleps if not at the Derby?!
@voretaq7 That sounds terrible.
@freiheit I'm sure it is.
20:49
@voretaq7 On my back deck. Under a tree. In California.
@freiheit Bah! Not the same without the horses.
@voretaq7 I can watch the derby on the TV, but it would require going inside...
@voretaq7 They still had the "welcome race fans!!" stuff up at the louisville airport
This whole conversation reminds me: I need to pick up some bourbon at the store soon. I've got rye and scotch, but no bourbon...
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Q: How do I Connect a 30yr-old Tandy 1400LT laptop to the internet?

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20:53
@freiheit DaFUQ kind of uncivilized world you live in? No tablet? No WiFi??
Am I the only one who can't read more then the first novel in a series? I have read all the way through certain series' like HHGTTG, but for others like Ender's Game, and Dune, I can't bring myself to read anymore of the series. Great books, but they feel like they were written with the first book in mind and the rest were all shoehorned in.
@BigHomie Wow. What some people consider "fun."
@Soviero skip speaker for the dead and the next one Xenocide and the rest aren't too bad
Dune is the only one in the series worth reading too
The only reason Frank Herbert continued Dune is because his publisher offered him an obscene amount of money to write more books
21:07
@Iain How was en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender_in_Exile? That's the one that really attracts my interest.
@Soviero I ahven't read tha one yet
@BigHomie Oh you know I had to answer that!
@Iain I read the original short story (well, one of them) called The Gold Bug, and it was pretty good.
@Soviero I picked up enders game for the first time and finished it in one sitting
@Iain I didn't finish it in one sitting, but I agree that it was a pretty short book. :(
@Iain Also, I meant that I read the short story for Ender's Exile, not for Ender's Game itself.
@Iain Does Xenocide of any of the rest really make sense if you haven't read Speaker? It introduces many characters that exist in the rest of that portion of the series.
@Zoredache Well, Ender in Exile takes place before speaker for the dead, but after Ender's Game proper.
Right, but Xenocide/Children of the Mind heavily depend on Speaker?
@Zoredache Oh, never read those
21:16
@Zoredache When I said the rest I meant from Enders Shadow onwards I forgot about children of the mind
@Iain I think I'm just going to move on to the next series, namely, Foundation
Asimov ?
@Iain Ya.
If you're into classics read some Heinlein
@Soviero I really don't like the audiobook version of Foundation. The presentation is not great. Foundation is somewhat like a series of short stories, but the audiobook does nothing to make it clear you are onto a new story that is set decades later.
21:22
I just got 20 rep on SuperUser for telling kids to get off my lawn. That place might not be as much of a cesspit as I thought.
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@Zoredache I don't listed to audio books, I prefer to read. Now, I wish they would make more radio plays with different "actors" and sound effects to tie the story together. They did that to the Torchwood books, and it was great.
@Soviero Also try Peter F Hamilton (they're all good but) the Night's Dawn Trilogy and Commonwealth Saga duo are really good
@Iain Not sure how I feel about Starship Troopers' guy.
@Soviero the book s much better than the film and was originally a juvenile
@Soviero He's got some "interesting views"
21:28
Can you guys see this? goodreads.com/review/list/…
@Iain The book has even more "interesting views" than the film adaptation :)
Not sure if you need to be logged in as me to see it
@Soviero yes
@voretaq7 The dragon books were from when I was 13, don't judge!
I don't have an electronic bookshelf
I prefer the real things
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21:30
@voretaq7 Me too, but if you keep an electronic bookshelf too, you get good recommendations for new books worth reading.
@voretaq7 I have 8 and they're full and largely neglected
@Soviero You could go with the Scientology guy, and read Battlefield Earth. Please ignore the movie for that as well.
@Zoredache oh no, you HAVE to watch that movie!
Everyone deserves to see Battlefield Earth at least once in their life
(It helps if you imagine it's a parody)
@Soviero If you like Fantasy then Fiest is good as is Eddings
@voretaq7 no no nopenopenope
I really want to see Scientology's core belief structure made into a movie.
@Iain You would deprive people of Battlefield Earth?
21:37
@voretaq7 The film
How can you say no to that face @Iain?!
21
Q: Does the South Park episode "Trapped in the Closet" accurately depict the beliefs of Scientology?

Andreas BoniniThe South Park episode Trapped in the Closet contained a dramatized explanation (you can skip the first 50 seconds) of the beliefs of Scientology. The video contains in the bottom the disclaimer: THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE Is it accurate?

It's the textbook definition of HILARIOUSLY BAD MOVIE
easily
@MarkHenderson Not good enough - I want a feature-length film!
21:38
Bored Of the Rings is a good parody
@voretaq7 It probably would have done better as a miniseries or TV show. There was far too much material to fit into 2 hour movie and have it make any kind of sense.
@Zoredache also if it wasn't, ya know, a shitty John Travolta vehicle
@Iain Not a fan of fantasy, no. But I do like that series. It's very nostalgic from when I was a kid.
I didn't really LIKE the book, though I don't actively dislike it.
The movie is just hilariously bad though
Best watched drunk.
21:52
This seems dumb
@MarkHenderson ^^^
@Jacob And yet she will expect full medical care when she stacks it on a curb and smashes her head open on the footpath
@MarkHenderson Do I think the state should try to protect you from your own stupidity? No? But I don't want to pay for your acts too.
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@Jacob I have little or no time for people who object to things based on the ground of fashion
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Q: Why do door knobs still exist?

Mladen JablanovićAs far as I know, in US, grip-and-turn style door knobs are still the most popular, as opposed to lever-style handles, which dominate in the rest of the world. Is there some UX advantage to door knobs that I am not aware of, which is the reason for keeping them around? Edit: To clarify the dif...

Every time I move into a new home, I change all of the knob handles for lever handles
It is much more expensive than you think
@MarkHenderson I don't so much care about knob vs lever
@voretaq7 I do. I hate knobs. Knobs are fine for pull-only situations, but not for unlatching
(wow so much innuendo there)
You can open a lever with:

- Greasy hands
- Your elbow
- Your bum (if you stand on tippitoes)
- Your face

Knobs can be opened by:

- Clean, dry hands that are not holding anything only
22:08
oh levers are superior to knobs, I'm just not motivated enough to change every fucking knob
Knobs also have the advantage of not catching on belt loops, bags, etc.
@MarkHenderson You can also open a lever - and then the door - with the large package you're holding.
my favorite door had a dual-action lever though (push down 90 degrees, then lift up 180 degrees).
@MichaelHampton Yes, yes you can
@MichaelHampton you're just continuing the innuendos aren't you?
@voretaq7 Fair enough. It is expensive. Our current house's levers were $150/each
(we only had 3 so wasn't a big deal)
22:12
@MarkHenderson Jesus Jackrabbiting Christ
Yeah, I would not spend that much.
@voretaq7 Good, solid, heavy levers are not cheap
Good, solid, heavy knobs are like $20.
Probably because of the amount of CNCing involved in making them and the weight to ship them
CNC? Fuck that. Drop forge it.
At $150 that better be brass.
22:13
Plus the markup for the Australian market, plus the markup for selling it as "premium" product (by building it properly)
@Tanner ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
@Tanner At $150 it better be fucking gold.
So turns out only the front door was $150 - the others were cheaper
(it was a while back)
@voretaq7 As long as its solid and heavy enough to kill a man.
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boom. done.
$13.
@Tanner Context-Free Starring!
23:13
Ohai everybody!
23:25
@ScottPack you shut your piehole
@Holocryptic What kind if pie goes in this piehole?
Are we talking apple pie? Or a meat pie? Or one of those shitty british mince pies?
@MarkHenderson I'm partial to apple pie with cinnamon
Personally I'm more of a cornish pasty fan
I also like pumpkin pie
Never had pumpkin pie
23:34
its beyond delicious
I've also never had key lime pie
THat looks damn nice
I do much like me a key lime but I'm especially partial to cobbler.
I fell off my bike
I think I'm just a pie lover in general
Is falling off your bike just like riding a bike? You never forget how?
@MarkHenderson It looks better than it is.
23:37
@mossy Next time, try not to fall of of it
@mossy YOU SHUT YOUR PIE HATING HOLE!
@freiheit I blame the ninja sand pit
@ScottPack PUMPKIN BETTER THAN LIME. TRUTH
As long as the pie isn't watery I'm good with it
@mossy Also, avoid slippery things like sand, gravel, wet manhole covers, etc. And if you can't avoid them, don't brake or steer on them. And if you absolutely must brake, only use your rear brake. (but otherwise primarily use your front brake)
@mossy Depends on the season.
23:40
I spun my truck out once driving really fast on a dirt road and trying to brake before a turn. Good times, and learned a valuable lesson
Pull harder on the hand brake?
So work wants me to learn Asterisk
no hand brake on a 94 explorer. But the lesson was "don't brake"
I feel like the next few weeks are going to be stressful.
@mossy Tell em to fuck off and get a real PABX
23:45
@mossy Oh sure, now that asterisk is "mature"... FreeSWITCH is the new hotness
There's an obscure windows-based phone system called Swyx that I'm fond of
But I'm hopefully doing a full VoIP Lync install for a non-profit in a few months
Uhh. Did I miss something today? The fuck happened with TrueCrypt
@mossy nobody that knows is talking
Probably Obama
@mossy We'll find out soon enough. Rest assured, it won't be good news.
23:53
@MarkHenderson Sounds fun. I wish I had more opportunities to do Windows based stuff.
To be honest, I only had one AD class when I was in college.
Ask me any AD question and i convert to User mode.
@MichaelHampton Yeah I figured. Weird how they went about it though.
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huh.

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