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16:00
@Jacob Why do you need millions?
you live in TN bob?
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@BigHomie Too broad for any SE site, IMO.
@BigHomie To start an ISP?
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@Jacob s/millions/billions/
Tampa tried years ago to provide free wifi across the city of Tampa. Verizon sued them thru the nose to get it prevented
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16:01
@Colyn1337 Australia. See: NBN.
@Jacob yeah, all you need is an uplink to a bigger ISP, right?
does your country establish internet as a right?
@BigHomie Last mile...
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Summary: previous gov started rollout of national FTTP/FTTH. Partially completed. New gov got voted in, dismantled it, changed it to FTTN with copper phone wiring (!!) going the last bit.
@DanilaLadner oh?
16:02
wtf
copper?
dumbasses
@ChrisS True story. Easy way to trash a machine: cat /dev/zero >/dev/mem
@DanilaLadner I wouldn't necessarily recommend that.
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@Colyn1337 You don't say.
It's nice to know some places can actually go through with it.
@NathanC :>/dev/mem
@Colyn1337 Same here... Heck I'd volunteer my services to help something like that get deployed and running here...
16:03
@Jacob Wireless?
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@BigHomie No. Just no.
@BigHomie Still need infrastructure.
I decided to start using myfitnesspal to keep track of the stuff I shove down my face-hole...it's surprising just how difficult it is to maintain sub-2000 calories unless you really pay attention
@ChrisS hell I'd do the same
When there's little private competition and near monopolies, it makes sense for a non-profit to step in. Whether it be gov't or not.
@NathanC Just eat less. You get used to it.
16:06
@Bob whatever, @Jacob has got to start somewhere. Comcast didn't start out an ISP giant, or a cable giant for that matter.
Nathan, avoid the sugar wherever possible.
The new desktops have arrived...
American food has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much sugar in it
@TheCleaner What's....what's with the golf balls?
@Colyn1337 No, only the best American food has sugar in it. Everything else has High Fructose Corn Syrup.
@TheCleaner Are those thin clients?
BA DUM DUM
16:07
@Jacob True. My stomach hates me for the attempt, but hey. I have to keep up caffeine because headaches suck (at least until I can get an appointment with a doc)
@NathanC caffeine tablets?
@NathanC stock photo...show size
I was speaking generically...... but yea, HFC is in a lot of our food.
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@BigHomie Wireless doesn't scale particularly well, though.
artificial tarriffs on sugar imports see to that
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16:09
With a single client? It can be amazing. With a thousand? Ugh. I'd rather copper.
Theory? Offer wireless service to $area, gain enough capital to fiber the last mile. Wash, rinse, repeat.
@Colyn1337 It's cheaper regardless, and it's so much more potent.
@Jacob Gonna buy some...i'm sure drinking Monster/Amp isn't helping the whole weight-loss thing (I've developed a bit of a uh...gut?)
@NathanC I know what that's like... 260lb
Granted, I'm not very over-weight, just don't want it to get worse.
16:09
@BigHomie no...regular pc's...vesa mount. Our thin clients are JackPC's
@Jacob I'm doing this for myself and my girlfriend because she's trying to lose weight...and I'm not much help if I don't try to cut out the crap I eat all the time. :P
I've been wanting to build a cheap HTPC...
@TheCleaner Those things are fair expensive aren't they?
@NathanC the thinkcentre m73? or the jack PC?
16:11
@TheCleaner The jackPC
Heh, I can cut one major thing...my love for ranch dressing (which is crazy high in sodium and fat)
Anyone know how fast you have to pump out pure oxygen to keep a human happy (and alive)?
@NathanC They are comparable to others...I think we pay around $250/each. But they are great on the shop floors
@TheCleaner How well do they remote into RDS?
@KevinSoviero 5-15 L/minute (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_therapy)
depends on the mix and what it's for...
@TheCleaner I've bought those.
16:16
@BigHomie this is cooler...but I have no need for it: chippc.com/products/zedpc
@BigHomie same as any other thin client...
Every time this makes me laugh:
@TheCleaner We've been looking at replacing the 10 year old machines on the factory floor...they collect soooo much vinyl dust and other crap. But, it's hard to find something that'll manage our SATO printing (using LPT) and that's compatible with our ERP software
The Pi worked initally but backfeed from the USB ports fried a couple test units
@NathanC have you looked into some of the enviro cases to keep the dust out?
They make even simple solutions like: computerdust.com/products/cpu_covers.html
But the fancier ones are like: commercetech.net/advanced-products/…
@ewwhite Why?
@NathanC I want to use it while exercising, as a means of keeping my energy up... Is that legal?
16:24
I mean i actually have no use for that one in the prod server.
And i have 2 of them, so mdadm raid 1 with them would not be a bad option i think.
for the storage box
@KevinSoviero I wouldn't without talking to your doctor
@TheCleaner Maybe. The machines are really old and also XP, so we're trying to find a cheap solution instead of dropping $500+ on equipment
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@NathanC The older revisions had polyfuses.
But, since we have the budget to start cycling out older office PCs...
@NathanC Why?
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They took them out to let you power it from a hub, IIRC.
16:28
@KevinSoviero You can easily overdo it and cause hyperventilation or other issues...I'm not a doctor :p
cycling, power hub... bicycles on the brain
@NathanC Don't get light headed or high... Got it! ;)
@Bob Well, the devices were on a USB hub (unpowered) and none of the devices pull power from the Pi (a barcode scanner, printer, keyboard)
well, the keyboard does but that's besides the point
@NathanC In all seriousness, I'll talk to my doctor, but I don't think he'll like the idea...
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@NathanC Yea, I'm just mentioning why the polyfuses are gone.
It's possible to manually readd them, but hardly something you want to do in your situation :P
16:31
@Bob heh, right. I still have a pi sitting unused in a drawer...
Who said earlier that they ran XBMC on a RPi?
RPi's were awesome until they became popular.
@KevinSoviero Yeah, you don't need oxygen... It could be rather bad for you.
@Jacob I like doing experiments on myself. What's the worst that could happen? ;)
Oxygen toxicity is a condition resulting from the harmful effects of breathing molecular oxygen () at elevated partial pressures. It is also known as oxygen toxicity syndrome, oxygen intoxication, and oxygen poisoning. Historically, the central nervous system condition was called the Paul Bert effect, and the pulmonary condition the Lorrain Smith effect, after the researchers who pioneered its discovery and description in the late 19th century. Severe cases can result in cell damage and death, with effects most often seen in the central nervous system, lungs and eyes. Oxygen toxicity is ...
that
16:42
@Jacob I'm not planning on inhaling 100% pure oxygen, I'm going to do what they do in hospitals where the mask has holes in it, and there's just a trickle of oxygen flowing into the mask.
@KevinSoviero Why? It's still just a bad idea
@Jacob I'm full of bad ideas, it's amazing I'm still alive considering the experiments I've done on myself.
Mostly involving electricity.
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@KevinSoviero There's also the question of where you'd get medical/actually pure oxygen.
Stuff for welding, etc., might not be particularly pure.
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16:44
@KevinSoviero Well ok -_-
@Bob Can get High Purity > 99.5% or Low Purity > 90%. Nice.
I have to go to lunch, brb.
@KevinSoviero Dude let us not forget I have used high voltage for hair removal. I'm with you! :)
@DanilaLadner It's better to use hardware RAID for OS on these HP systems
@DanilaLadner But again, I have a way of doing this stuff that comes from a lot of trial and error and production deployments. So I don't think I'm giving bad advice.
Right.
Well, ok, so i will have to create different logical volumes from 8 10K disks, but rememenr we were talking about caching, those pcie ssds are not seen by the hp storage manager
16:52
@DanilaLadner Well, I threw a lot of options out to you. The PCIe SSDs are usable with ZFS.
@basil that storage admin/virt admin job popped up again.. is symmetrix (vmax) a whole new game compared to VNX, NetApp etc?
From what I can tell they're using two (!) vmax 40k's in two different sites, plus netapps with vplex on top.. or something like that
@pauska Yes
@ewwhite yep, that i remember.
The differences are very large, but it's still storage
Yeah, that's what I thought
I tried to read a overview of the platform, and it kind of reminds me of EVA
16:55
I mean i can carve out the logical disk with hdds. I'll give you a call later on, gotta go take a walk.
Thanks.
@pauska So for VNX/Netapp etc, you can kind of just define what you want done, and trust the OS to take care of the details. With big iron storage, you need to plan out how you want it done
virtual blobs across thousand of spindles, which are then joined to raid etc
@pauska Depends on when the last rearchitecture was. Many big iron storage shops still have old designs- like standard raids instead of pools
@Basil The really weird part here is that they're a vpshere shop.. I don't understand why they have such a massive storage system
@pauska vsphere can get big...
16:56
Yes, but they're not that big.. atleast not that I know of
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Is it just me or have the SF questions been extra crappy lately?
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and it's suspicious that the storage admin left, 1 year after purchase
@DanilaLadner again, it's best for phone. Not SF chat.
@pauska Maybe they want the reliability and features of the vmax... or maybe they paid too much
@kce REALLLY bad.
16:57
@kce yep
they come in waves
@basil so I take it you've worked some on the Vmax then? Steep learning curve?
@TheCleaner why is this one cooler?
yeah, i haven't seen anything valuable to answer in like months actually.
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@ewwhite, @BigHomie - Terrible. I wonder what effects the rate of crappy questions per day. (CQ/D).
16:59
@pauska Never worked on it myself, but two of my colleagues have. It's similar to the DS8000 or VSP, but only in that it's solving the same problems with different software. At its core, you have a set of tools for masking, another set for managing internal resources (like defining pools/tiering/processor assignments), and another set for replication. Just like the VSP that I know.
I don't know how to use the tools because we went HDS, but I know what they do and what they're called
Symcli and timefinder
Not sure about the toolset for the internal management
@kce continuing steady decline
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@Iain - Yeah. I feel like as mouth-breathing Junior Sysadmin I can be pretty charitable at times but even I have to really dig for something that isn't garbage.
@kce You know what a man page is. Most of the folks throwing shit on the wall here don't.
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We're talking basics here. Like capitalization and complete sentences.
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Q: Server 2012 R2 - Locked HD

BarrettHP Proliant Microserver Gen8; Server 2012 R2; Three 1TB SATA Harddrives, two arrays: 1 Raid 0 OS drive, 2 Raid 1 Data drives "The drive where Windows is installed is locked. Unlock the drive and try again." I came into the office on a Monday morning to that message. This Screen (from Ideaz): ...

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17:06
In other complaints. Think carefully about using Meraki devices. I can't say I am impressed.
I mean I kind of am. They're perfect for places where an MSP sets up an office and then comes back three years later but the damn cloud management is so so so annoying.
@kce That's not the worst of the sins
0
Q: Apache MPM changes by App size

user3657274Our client use these settings and wanted me to suggest new setting by Application size. Any suggestions are appreciated Current Recommended, Generic: ThreadLimit 200 ServerLimit 4 StartServers 2 MaxClients 800 MinSpareThreads 200 MaxSpareThreads 400 ThreadsPerChild 200 MaxRequestsPerChild 30000...

I really don't like mod-headshotting questions, but seriously? "Herp Derp Configure Apache For Me - No I'm not going to tell you anything else."? Not happening.
-1
Q: send snmp trap from centos

user241248I have two servers who run centos 6.4 I set the SNMP process sends snmptrap one another and I want to send snmptrap according server name defined in snmpd.conf and not like this(to the ip): [root@host log]# snmptrap -v 1 -c public 10.150.8.160 UCD-SNMP-MIB::ucdStart "" 6 17 "" SNMPv2- ...

That one made no sense to me either.
I should probably start reading questions rather than trying to decipher what the problem is from the title
then deciding it's out of my realm of expertise
except for cpanel. That stuff is cancerous.
-1
Q: Is it possible to prevent DDoS attacks?

SreeI recently read that certain industries—including the one I work in—are more likely than others to be targeted by a DDoS attack. Can you give me some tips on how to prevent DDoS attacks?

heh
I like the cpanel tag...
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> Check if port is open or closed on a Linux server using SSH?
17:13
@NathanC Why? Gives you something to filter out?
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why is that tagged ?
@BigHomie Yes, gives me a flag that says "avoid this cancer"
:p
@voretaq7 @kce @anyone I really don't understand why people won't let us have a site that isn't full of crappy basic questions that can easily be found on altavista
@Bob iptables -L
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Q: Check if port is open or closed on a Linux server using SSH?

James AndersonHow can I check if a port is open or closed on a Linux server (running Cent OS 5 and cPanel) using SSH? EDIT: And how can I open the port if it is closed? Thanks, James

17:14
@BigHomie The answer to that question: don't piss off someone enough that they'd want to DDoS you
@Bob because the user has no concept of "command line"
@NathanC >> @PatoSáinz
Shoot it.
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@Jacob That's not gonna tell you if a port is listening or closed...
@Bob Well yeah, but a lazy q gets a lazy answer
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17:15
@Iain - Yeah. I don't get it either. There's plenty of other places that aim to be inclusive. I don't see why we can be the one site that has some "professional" standards.
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@Jacob I was just quoting the title of a question. And that was an incorrect answer.
@Bob Yeah well you might as well start at the firewall. If the fw isn't properly configured it doesn't really matter what is listening or not.
@Bob I thought telnet was the ol' school standard
@kce Actually I'm beginning to think that we're only here to keep he truly crappy questions away from dba.se, ne.se, etc
17:17
@voretaq7 Man pages are for mansplaining, right?
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@Jacob First thing to do is to check if it's accepting connections on that socket. Then check if you have some service actually listening on that socket. Then maybe check the firewall...
@MikeyB I thought they were abandoned in favor of google
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Well, I guess you can check the firewall as a second step if it's easier to access.
only partially kidding
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But doing it first doesn't really tell you anything...
@BigHomie Assuming you have it installed :P
Meh.
17:20
@BigHomie google:man programname
@voretaq7 definitely but sometimes that's too much hassle to read the definition of a switch
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Ahh. Alaska.
http://www.ktoo.org/2014/05/19/alaska-man-treats-gunshot-wound-ointment/
"A 43-year-old Anchor Point man is expected to make a full recovery after initially treating a gunshot wound to the head for five days with an antibiotic ointment"
@kce These people vote.
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@voretaq7 - Not for long at that rate.
@kce at least it didn't get infected
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17:28
@BigHomie - Yeah. True.
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A: Check if port is open or closed on a Linux server using SSH?

Ramya SanthoshDo the following vim /etc/sysconfig/iptables Add the following lines iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 54310 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 54311 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 50030 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 50060 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp...

^^@voretaq7 IMHO that has 0 attempt to answer the Q
@Jacob uhh yeah if I'm the admin
@BigHomie huh?
@Jacob I was thinking along the lines of 'Hey does this system have $port open', not how do I make this port open as that dude was
@Jacob "that's what downvotes are for" (but it looks like @MichaelHampton already killed it)
17:32
Yeah, he never came back to fix it, so screw him.
@voretaq7 Downvotes are for bad answers. That made no attempt to respond to the question
@Jacob If you think it's not an answer that's what Not An Answer flags are for :)
@Jacob Well, it responded to one part of the two part question.
@voretaq7 I did
Though even that part was wrong.
17:33
@Jacob then exercise patience - we'll delete things eventually :-)
@voretaq7 I only pinged you because of the comment
but why did the question get so many upvotes?
Really? using SSH??
@BigHomie Google?
@Jacob Don't you need a minimum rep to upvote?
People on other SE sites can get 100? or is it 200? rep here
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@BigHomie - That was back in the day when people handed out upvotes like candy.
@BigHomie it's 100
Makes me proud of my fellow dutchmen
yeah but you have to be a member of a certain number of sites w/ 200+ rep to get that, if I'm not mistaken
@BigHomie Just 1 site
17:35
@BigHomie you need 200 rep on any site, and you get 100 bonus rep for associating your accounts network-wide
@BigHomie completely OS agnostic...zero drivers required.
@NathanC grab a few refurbs off ebay or tigerdirect...then you won't care when they die... :)
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Q: When did bombs actually look like this?

HOttenI guess most are familiar with the cartoonish "bomb icon". It is used to warn of metaphorical or literal explosive danger and shows a deep black sphere with a smaller cylinder attached. That is where the burning fuse starts. (created by Wikimedia Commons User Nevit Dilmen, license: CC BY-SA 3....

@BigHomie hah!
@HOtten what did you expect a real version of a bomb to be used for? Mashing potatoes? :) — ANeves 6 hours ago
@ewwhite nopenopenope
17:41
@NathanC What's wrong? He's got lots of room.
@ewwhite awesome
@JoelESalas maybe you can help me
a devops friend sent me this:
# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/xvda1       32G   31G  582M  99% /
devtmpfs        3.7G   12K  3.7G   1% /dev
tmpfs           3.7G     0  3.7G   0% /dev/shm
# lsof | grep deleted
auditd     1103      root    5w      REG              202,1     2324183       8046 /var/log/audit/audit.log (deleted)
nginx      1371      root    2w      REG              202,1       18478     132207 /var/log/nginx/error.log (deleted)
nginx      1371      root    4w      REG              202,1       18478     132207 /var/log/nginx/error.log (deleted)
nginx      1371      root    5w      REG              202,1    26100615     131227 /var/log/nginx/access.log (deleted)
nginx      1372     nginx    2w      REG              202,1       18478     132207 /var/log/nginx/erro
oh duh... didn't see the catalina.out
@DennisKaarsemaker he had a cron hourly job that deleted the log files...
@ewwhite … and never HUPped.
17:51
@MikeyB exactly.
@ewwhite Pro.
devops!
Bob
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@ewwhite Apparently that gif is double actual speed
we went to college together... even won the CS department software engineering competition.
Hey everyone, I want to check something... How much does a typical middle class house in a nice neighborhood in your city cost?
17:53
He went on to start MapMyRide.com - I help people distribute bananas...
Austin, TX: $250 - $300K
I need an extra €90k so I can buy a model S
@DennisKaarsemaker I don't drive enough to justify one... but very nice
I'd drive more
@KevinSoviero Detroit, MI: $30k average
17:56
But it's about 3 times as much as I'd want to spend on a car
It's gorgeous though
@KevinSoviero $300k. Welcome to Long Island, will that be your left or right testicle?
@KevinSoviero If you can find a nice neighborhood
You movin here?
@DennisKaarsemaker I should go test one :)
@KevinSoviero typical 250-350
@ewwhite It's not like you do terrible though...
@Jacob Where?
17:58
@KevinSoviero Virginia Beach
@Jacob Oh, I could buy one. But I drive like 6,000 miles a year.
@BigHomie In Austin? There's plenty of beautiful neighborhoods.
@KevinSoviero Nah, Detroit.
@BigHomie Oh. Ya. That.
I should get a consulting job that requires me to drive to clients
18:01
@ewwhite I'm buying one as a black car service vehicle. Gets me a Tesla and pays for itself. Hire drivers to collect fares when I'm not going to use the car (which is most of the time since I bicycle to work)
@JeffFerland seriously?
@JeffFerland That's a lot of work to deal with.
@ewwhite Seriously.
@JeffFerland Seems like an administrative nightmare, no?
Nah. LLC, California TCP registration (both are 2 page forms) and record mileage logs. Otherwise it's like a normal car and I do double-entry accounting for all my personal expenses anyway so that's almost a no-op.
As for the driver, they sign up with Uber and Uber pays them weekly with a 1099.
18:05
wow. It's a LOT more complicated out here :P
@JeffFerland I honestly wouldn't want people driving or riding in my car...
But free money I guess
@JeffFerland Double-entry accounting seems fairly useful. I had an excel document that kept track of account balances. But, I stopped using it for one reason or another
@JeffFerland won't your insurance go through the roof?
nearly every black car or taxi driver I've encountered in the us drives like a mad man
@NathanC Gnucash does well by me. Importing credit card statements takes off a lot of burden.
@pauska Some states in the US don't require car insurance...
18:14
@pauska I'm sure it won't be super cheap, but I doubt it'd be more expensive than private insurance.
@JeffFerland Yeah, heard of that. I might look into it again as I try to reign in my budgeting
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Q: Do IT certifications help improve a job candidate's prospects?

ChadThere was a time(before y2k) when being an MCSE or CNA was a notable achievement that showed dedication and knowledge. In the last decade or so IT certifications became less noteworthy. Boot camps popped up that were dedicated not to teaching the skills to achieve the certifications but just ...

The first answer there seems to have nailed it...
18:30
@ChrisS yeah, and that Oracle exam sounds like a beast. I think there's a Cisco exam that's similar
MS exams too...
@ChrisS Really? That intense?
6TB HDDs running 6Gb/s SAS for $600?
SIGN OF THE DEVIL!
@BigHomie Microsoft has "Master" and "Architect" level tests that are that intense, yes. There are 4 different levels of MS test: Tech Specialist, Professional, Master, Architect. The TS are fairly easy; Pro level asks some weird off-the-wall stuff; Master and Architect have multiday training/assessment and testing.
18:43
@ChrisS That's wassup, the CCIE series is what I was thinking of
@BigHomie Seems that most mature certification programs have a progression like that: Entry, Normal, High-end, Master.
@ChrisS Yeah, how much does it really benefit though? I thought of getting an SCCM cert just to say I have one, for consulting purposes, but if it's just some mcp cert than what's the point
MS Certs are mainly for MS Partner consultants. If you're not a MS Partner there's pretty little benefit. OTOH, if you're a good test taker anyway it might take only a little cost and effort to get certified.
19:06
@BigHomie certs are like a degree. A piece of paper that says you can actually complete a task regarding a particular subject. (meaning you bothered to follow through and take the exams...and pass...NOT that you can actually know the stuff long term)
@MichaelHampton I liked it when the first level certificate was named MOUSE (Microsoft Office User)
Now I'm wanting to get my MCSE: Freecell, MCSE: Pinball, MCSE: Hearts...
@MichaelHampton This is easier...just order your own IT certification...certificados.br.tripod.com/Ntxpics/Order.pdf
@TheCleaner I assume that's not real...
Or at least meaningless, since it's the ID that counts
Isn't that kinda cheap for a 8-10ft tree w/ free shipping? tytyga.com/Yoshino-Flowering-Cherry-p/…
19:29
Hrm... looking for a largish SAS JBOD enclosure, dual-ported, with lots of slots. whistles nonchalantly at @ewwhite
Anyone know if you can be a web developer in a reputable company w/o a college degree?
@KevinSoviero Sure. If you have a portfolio that isn't shit.
@mossy Not a dev yet, I'm a Linux admin.
FINALLY
IT'S HERE
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Embedded Systemsembedded.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for designers and programmers of embedded devices

Currently in private beta.

@BigHomie nice. I'm sure it will be flooded with arduino users :)
19:38
@RyJones They've got their own site, of which I don't approve
Just fragments everything
RPi, Arduino, Beaglebone,
This day is draggginnggg
In my experience the Arduino crowd is very much from the copy-paste school of software development, and if they're fenced off from serious embedded development, fine.
very much like the superuser split.
@cole Yes.
Never played with an Arduino - much more powerful than a RPi?
@RyJones You make a simple, yet intriguing, case
@cole No, but it was around first, and is also geared toward embedded development
8-bit micro
19:41
Ah.
@BigHomie I work with both sides of the fence - the arduino guys and embedded guys. arduinos are very capable machines, and a nice start, but the users quickly graduate to real embedded systems or they remain hobby users
I need to do something with my RPi - it's just sitting there
@cole sell it off? I have a nice, complete rpi setup that I've never really used
found out how little bandwidth it could support, tossed it in the pile
@RyJones That was me, I quickly graduated. I hope, however, that in the excitement of this site members start upvoting crap questions just b/c
@BigHomie just yesterday I was working on some BLE profiling and a s/o site would have been helpful for discussing exactly what was going on, but it's unclear that would fit
19:44
@RyJones going to play with it tonight - probably end up doing nothing with it. I have all the stuff to get it up
@cole it's really easy to get started. At least to the LED blinker demo or something
I need to do something
@Jacob Go shopping
Clean your house.
@mossy what if math is easy for @Jacob?
@Jacob Practice your stabbing. It's an important skill.
19:49
@RyJones I'm good at math
@RyJones I'm bad at math.
@mossy did that yesterday
I need to buy a house but DAMN, I can't afford a $300K house when property taxes are 5%...
@Jacob New wolfenstein is out.
I guess I need to find my keys... Those have been missing for awhile.I'm afraid that they may have fallen out of my jersey.
@KevinSoviero You'll never buy a house on 0 credit either. Oh and taxes are the least of your concern.
19:50
@MikeyB You only have a couple of options... HP MDS600 or something like this JBOD.
@ewwhite This configuration cannot be viewed because it belongs to another session. To create a new configuration of the same system, click here
bad link
@ewwhite I was reading through SuperMicro tech docs and it looks like the SC837 can be used dual-ported.
@Jacob I'm working on that. I just got a secured credit card, and will be getting a real credit card in a few months to a year. After that I'll be getting a small loan of some sort, and then a mortgage after about two years.
@MikeyB I wouldn't
for enclosures, my Nexenta vendor uses non-Supermicro JBODs
(but supermicro heads)
@ewwhite ooohh that looks nice.
19:54
of course it does ;)
they also have a dual-node cluster version
@KevinSoviero You should also be renting something.
@ewwhite screw that, I just want dual-ported disks behind dual SAN fabrics to which I can attach GPFS head nodes.
@Jacob Can't. Shouldn't. Won't.
@KevinSoviero Yeah... You need a solid history...
@KevinSoviero You have experience? Webdev experience I mean
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You're asking someone to loan you money for property, they want assurance you won't destroy it.
Unless you're in Virginia kinda sorta
@Jacob You can get that w/o renting, and renting isn't an option because I don't make enough to rent and save up.
@KevinSoviero Then how in the hell are you going to buy?!?!?!
@Jacob I can afford that. In other words, I can afford to rent OR save OR make payments, but not two of the above.
@KevinSoviero Then you're not ready to buy

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