The Comms Room

HopelessN00b

13:01

@TheCleaner Girl I'm seeing has the LG G2. It's nice.

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner I have a RAZR MAXX HD and had the RAZR MAXX before that. They're solid phones.

MDMoore313

@TheCleaner No, and not to totally ignore your suggestions, but Samsung GS4s are on sale now

since the 5 is about to come out @TheCleaner

TheCleaner

I like the GS4 but (here's my absurdness coming out) I feel like everyone has it. Same with the iPhone. The G2 has some killer specs but the Droid Maxx has a serious battery life (big plus for me) and I still have fond memories of my OG Droid.

pauska

I have a SGS3, but it's slow..

it was blazing fast when I got it, but apps grow in size every day

Basil

morning

HopelessN00b

13:10

Yeah, I'm not getting a smartphone without a proper, physical QWERTY keyboard, so... sadly, my phone sucks. I mean, it was awesome 5 years ago, but I gotta reboot it anytime I want to use Google Maps. sigh

Mornin', Basil.

MDMoore313

@pauska CM10?

@HopelessN00b Seriously? Do you churn your own butter too??

TheCleaner

@pauska I was so hopeful that my Galaxy Nexus would be the coolest phone ever. While I loved the phone at first, it's battery life is abysmal. I may get 2 hours of heavy usage on 4g out of it if I'm lucky.

MDMoore313

GS3 w/ CM10 life has been great, haven't even batted a brow @ the GS4 or 5

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner My battery lasts forever

pauska

@MDMoore313 crashed too much, back to stock

MDMoore313

13:14

In all fairness I do use green power to limit drain from the antennas, but it's still a rock solid setup

TheCleaner

@MichaelHampton Yeah, that's the big appeal for me on the Droid MAXX. I don't really care about the 1080 resolution on the G2, but the Droid's processor makes me wonder if I'll still be loving it 2 years from now.

pauska

@HopelessN00b Try using a modern android phone with SwiftKey.. you'll never look back

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner It is not the fastest processor out there, to be sure. But it's plenty enough for me.

MDMoore313

@pauska Yeah, there are some releases that crashed a lot, but I've learned to just stick w/ one that works instead of upgrading every time there's a new release or a push notification on my phone

@pauska swift key == swipe? That does work nice

TheCleaner

@HopelessN00b I am amazed at how phones have advanced. I still have both of my "very old" Win Mobile at&t phones and it's wild to already see the difference 10 years makes

Nathan C

13:18

NFS...why you hate me so much :(

Michael Hampton

@NathanC Nightmare File System...what did you THINK it was going to do?

cole

@TheCleaner Wow, I remember those!

@NathanC are you doing NFS on Windows? If so, then you deserve it.

Nathan C

@cole NFS export on Linux, mounting on Windows...

Michael Hampton

As late as 2008 I had one of these...

Nathan C

Just trying to make it easier to mass-modify my nagios configs lol

Michael Hampton

13:19

cole

@NathanC FYL

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Seriously, yes. Still running a Droid 3... because the Droid 4 had shitty specs, and I figured a Droid 5 would be along soon enough. Oh well. No matter how I slice it, I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on something I don't like, unless it's taxes.

cole

Sneezy McGee over here this morning, jeez.

Nathan C

Meh, may just resort to using FTP

notepad++ supports it

TheCleaner

@MichaelHampton my wife had a razr. I was ready to give up my Samsung flip phone and the idea of a qwerty keyboard drove me to the winmobile phones.

Nathan C

13:21

I could make samba work but lazy

cole

@NathanC dude, it's easy!

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner I did almost no texting, so that wasn't an issue for me. Still don't text much, come to think of it...

cole

I had a blue Razr.

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton I still have one of those. Used it until the day after I got my Droid 3, which was... more recently than 2008. Still kinda feel Meh about smartphones. Got a little tablet, prefer to web over it anyway.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b I was referring to the physical qwerty keyboard thing. I'm not spending that much on a phone either that's why I mentioned the GS4 to @TheCleaner

cole

13:22

Man - I used to have a Nextel (I actually have owned two of them)

HopelessN00b

If physical keyboards are so passe, why don't you just use the OSK on your computer? :p

Physical keyboards are just better for inputting than touch screens, period.

TheCleaner

At the old job it was "get whatever you want and expense it". Here I pay for my own phone. So I'm not as keen to run the latest flagship. Otherwise I'd probably just grab the Nexus 5. Honestly, I'd love to sport a Win 8.1 phone like the Lumia Icon but the sheer lack of apps just sucks for me. I have 3 apps specifically that don't have Win equivalents.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b No argument there, but it all depends on what your inputting as well. Everything is swipe now, and like @pauska said you can even swipe words with better accuracy than before

MikeyB

@NathanC Dude - clusterssh. I'm sure there's a port to cygwin.

pauska

@MDMoore313 there is a swipe module, but I've never used it.. it's excellent at guessing what words you're going to type next though

MikeyB

13:25

@FalconMomot WTF?!?

Nathan C

@MikeyB Not worth the trouble just to edit some config files...

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b Oh I thought @pauska was referring to this goo.gl/bWcuVe

MikeyB

@NathanC but configuring NFS on Windows is easier? OK...

Nathan C

@MikeyB Heh...it's supposed to be since there's a native client for windows

pauska

@MDMoore313 swiftkey.net/en

MDMoore313

13:28

@pauska Oh okay, yeah you can swipe with that one too

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Yeah, not a fan. Rather just have something that does what I tell it, when I tell, and doesn't try to think for itself. The algorithms have gotten almost infinitely better, but they're still not good enough, yet.

on that note... smart keys are pretty dumb.

Nathan C

Cool, Windows 7 Pro lacks the NFS Client...

MDMoore313

> I wondered if they exercised at all, given their excitement at not having to - literally – lift a finger.

@NathanC That sucks, enterprise has it. I don't understand why they limit Pro, pro should be enterprise for non enterprise customers, you can't even run bitlocker on it for example. Not that I care much b/c truecrypt is dope btw

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Ugh. Truecrypt... I mean, not that there's anything better, but it's a pain in the fucking ass, even moreso than most crypto. Stupid fucking government.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b Really? You think?

I've got a client running it for 2 years now, zero complaints

My only complaint is no central management, if I weren't lazy I'd implement it myself

HopelessN00b

13:39

@MDMoore313 Yeah. Ever try to TC a RAID volume? Lost 5 TB of TV and movies that way. >:/

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b Oh, yeah that does sound like it would suck. which raid?

HopelessN00b

The lack of remote access is also rather bothersome, at least to me, and like you said, lack of centralized management. Not to mention if, heaven forbid, you get your OS disk corrupted, and have to attempt a repair on a TC encrypted volume. Huge bitch. (Ask me how I spent my weekend...)

@MDMoore313 6

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b I had my Windows 8 install fall over randomly...and it was TC encrypted

HopelessN00b

Part of that was the shitty HD placement on consumer laptops, but that fucking sucked... pulling the disk out, decrypting it so I could do a repair reinstall, re-encrpyting it, putting the whole effing laptop back together.... blech.

Nathan C

two choices: rebuild from scratch, or wait 22 hours to decrypt

HopelessN00b

13:43

Yeah, I got the old man's laptop, and decided there wasn't a pole long enough for me to touch a rebuild of that with.

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MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b bitlocker would work the same way though

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Yeah. Like I said, not that there's anything better. Full disk encryption is just a pain in the ass, and it's what you need if you want to protect your data. Damn government assholes.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b You want to know what's really a pain? SecureDoc.

mossy

Good morning

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Never heard of it.

pauska

13:47

trying to port some undocumented web apps from one server to another

IIS..

install feature did it work? No.. install another feature did that work? nope...

HopelessN00b

Ugh. Seems like that should come with hazard pay. Or a "fuck this, do it yourself" clause.

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cole

@pauska urgh that sucks.

sup @mossy

mossy

@cole Oh ya know.

Work stuff.

cole

fuck work

mossy

To be honest I'm just looking at my desktop.

contemplating life

HopelessN00b

13:52

@mossy No good comes of that. I just end up wishing I had rich, dead parents.

mossy

@HopelessN00b Same.

Maybe not dead.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b You don't want to. Long story short the straw that broke the camel's back was that with Macs they never got a development copy of the OS so everytime an incremental upgrade came out if a user were to upgrade their machine before we upgraded their securedoc client their machine would no longer boot. Guess how often that happened.

HopelessN00b

Gah. Seem to be a cautionary tale on using Apple products...

mossy

@HopelessN00b So I've been using LinkedIn as a eharmony replacement.

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Not working too well.

HopelessN00b

@mossy Right, maybe not dead... I mean, I'd settle for tripping over a dufflebag stuffed full of $100 bills, too.. but I'm starting to think that's not gonna happen either.

MDMoore313

13:55

@HopelessN00b Perhaps, but I'm against any enterprise level software company that can't invest the couple hundred bucks a year to make sure their apps are compatible w/ an OS before it hits the masses

HopelessN00b

@mossy Yeah, that doesn't sound like it would. I mean sure, LinkedIn is the professional's social network, but I don't think there's a lot of sex workers on it.

mossy

.

HopelessN00b

Anyway, I guess it's off to my meeting. If I'm lucky, maybe I'll die on the way.

Wish me luck.

mossy

@HopelessN00b Good luck sir.

cole

@mossy never know - my ex who lives down the street liked my new profile pic on LinkedIn (it's the only way we're connected via social media anymore).

ewwhite

14:01

Oh, Chicago...

mossy

@ewwhite :O

MDMoore313

Is that real?

ewwhite

"The train didn't stop, ran out of track and went up the stairs."

mossy

I feel like there's a design error there.

Train should not be able to travel to places that people walk.

Breaks or no breaks

MDMoore313

pauska

14:04

@ewwhite Conductor: "OOOOOH that woman has a pair of nice tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii"

MDMoore313

@ewwhite No trains in tha D, from your orig pic I thought the thing went down the stairs

Jenny D

last winter, that was

MDMoore313

@ewwhite @JennyD You folks should stick to the people mover

Detroit People Mover

The Detroit People Mover is a automated people mover system which operates on a single set of tracks, and encircles Downtown Detroit, Michigan. The People Mover is owned and operated by the Detroit Transportation Corporation, an agency of the City of Detroit. The Woodward Avenue Light Rail line, beginning construction in 2013, will serve as a link between the Detroit People Mover and SEMCOG Commuter Rail with access to DDOT and SMART buses as part of a comprehensive network of transportation in metropolitan Detroit. The People Mover uses UTDC ICTS Mark I technology and the cars are dri...

cole

14:24

ugh Windows 2000.

Journeyman Geek

could be worse

ewwhite

So I have a client with two domain controllers... SFDC01 and SFDC02 - They're both Windows 2003.

They never establish AD sites or much of anything.

I'm building two new DCs running Windows 2012 R2...

what should I name them?

cole

@ewwhite <site><dc><#>

MDMoore313

^

ewwhite

SFDC03 and SFDC04? Or just get rid of the padding? SFDC1, SFDC2

pauska

14:26

site-company-#

MDMoore313

@ewwhite I wouldn't kill the padding

Journeyman Geek

I'd keep the padding, and keep seperate names.

ewwhite

I mean, this is a produce company... they are only in San Francisco, so the naming is redundant

cole

@ewwhite I like the 0 in front of single digits, in case they ever get to double it looks cleaner, IMO.

ewwhite

the goal is to replace SFDC01 and SFDC02.

why would they ever have more than 9 domain controllers?

Nathan C

14:27

@ewwhite Silly train, you don't belong on an escalator

cole

GO HOME TRAIN U R DRUNK

MDMoore313

@ewwhite Then deprecate them one at a time and replace them with the same names

ewwhite

so do I make the new Windows 2012 boxes 03 and 04?

02 is physical at a warehouse a couple of blocks away... on pentium3 hardware...

can't remove it easily

cole

@ewwhite you'd have to, unless you transfer all the roles to 02, demote 01 - make sure there's no metadata pointing to 01. Promote a 2012 server as SFDC01 and transfer the roles over and do the same for 02.

ewwhite

Hmm

MDMoore313

14:29

@cole I was assuming they had all the same roles but that's definitely the way I'd go

Why name them 3 and 4 if there's not going to be a 1 and 2 much longer

and if they are in fact replacements

ewwhite

The client hasn't been using both DC addresses for DNS... so getting rid of one will break things for the moment.

pauska

@ewwhite You never know if they'll purchase another company and bring up a new site

ewwhite

It's stuff like this that makes Linux people think - inflexible

cole

Wait, what? Only one is running DNS?

ewwhite

I'd love to give these new DC's temporary names and rename them after the old Windows 2003 shit is gone.

cole

14:32

Renaming can be done, I just don't like fucking with that shit.

ewwhite

@cole both are running DNS, but the client hasn't pointed machines/devices to use both DCs as resolvers

@cole i've done it before... but it's so awful.

MDMoore313

@ewwhite you could, might cause more problems than it solves

cole

@ewwhite ah are they all pointing to 01?

Iain

@ewwhite call them -0A and -0B then when you upgrade to Windows Server 2020 go back to -01 and -02

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MDMoore313

@ewwhite Well mod dhcp so that it hands out both, easy enough

Nathan C

14:33

@Iain Looking into the future eh?

ewwhite

So now I'm going to have to live with a name I don't necessarily want because renaming a domain controller is fraught with peril.

Nathan C

and explosions

ewwhite

@MDMoore313 40% of devices are static.

Iain

@ewwhite what's in a name

cole

@ewwhite netdom should do it, easily.

MDMoore313

14:34

@ewwhite 08 R2 or 7+? Powershell to update dns

ewwhite

@Iain well, it seems like a simple request.

Iain

It's the kind of thing that's a minor irritation now and forgotten in a month

ewwhite

@Iain perhaps

Nathan C

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MDMoore313

@ewwhite Assuming neither of those are CAs

HopelessN00b

14:38

@ewwhite Use dashes? site-dc-#

That's what we do... not that I care too much about the number, so long as they're unique.

faker

how does windows handle this anyway? If you have configured two DNS servers on the client and the first is down.
Will it wait some timeout until it tries the second one?

HopelessN00b

@faker Yeah. It's a pretty short timeout by default.. wanna say 2 seconds, for some reason.

Dan

@faker Someone recently linked an amazing graphic on the main site

faker

@HopelessN00b every request? Or it remembers it?

MDMoore313

@faker blogs.technet.com/b/stdqry/archive/2011/12/15/…

faker

14:41

@MDMoore313 thanks!

on our Linux boxes we rely heavily on DNS. No downtime possible.
We use dnsmasq and a load balancer to achieve that.
But our Windows server just have their DCs configured...

HopelessN00b

@faker Looks like part 1 covers that. Nice little blog.

...alright, here we go... spinning up a new Server 2003 R2 VM. <Shudder>

cole

@HopelessN00b :(

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b make sure those hamsters don't stop jogging

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 I'm really hoping that the hamsters catch fire, crash the ESXi cluster, and force us to switch to some other payroll (?) or whatever software that doesn't require Server 2003. Plus, if the cluster goes down, I have an excuse to upgrade to ESXi 5.5, which is something I can't seem to get permission to do otherwise.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b That actually doesn't sound like a bad plan.

I'd like to gain insight on why choose ESXi over Hyper-V/SCVMM other than the catchy name.

ewwhite

14:52

Because it typically just works™

MDMoore313

@ewwhite lol HyperV is solid as well, are you referring to the clustering?

ewwhite

@MDMoore313 Many professionals have a longer relationship with VMware and there's a proven track record for larger installations.

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Well, Hyper-V's less mature, so ESXi worked first. That's why we're using it. MS licensing with Hyper-V can also be a bitch.. to the point where Microsoft doesn't even know what's required sometimes. (That really rubs me the wrong way.)

cole

My experience with Hyper-V has been painful at best. However, NOT as painful as XenServer.

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Typical licensing may include the sacrifice of your first born child

mossy

14:56

AWS in one google chat message.

Top tier support? That's 15k

maybe

fuckers

cole

@mossy had a similar conversation about Amazon last night - but more so about selling through them.

Nathan C

that ended up being a larger onebox than I expected

HopelessN00b

@mossy Meh. AWS licensing is only painful if you haven't had to deal with MS licensing before.

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Tanner

@HopelessN00b fair point

Nathan C

AWS is overpriced for the hardware they give (based on EC2)

mossy

14:59

@HopelessN00b That's true. It's just a little terrifying when you set up a backup solution and you think to yourself.. "Hmm this could cost anywhere between 10 and 1,000 dollars."

It's like the cable company

cole

oohhh TechNet Lab: Troubleshooting AD Replication: vlabs.holsystems.com/vlabs/…

mossy

i hate those guys too

"We'll be at your house any time between 9:00am and 6:00pm"

Nathan C

I did manage to score a $25 credit for doing their "survey"

mossy

fuck that

Nathan C

which I actually opened, then closed in a few minutes later - still got the credit

HopelessN00b

15:01

@cole Dammit, doesn't work in Firefox... and I suspect it'll puke pretty hard with the GPO settings we have for IE.

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b No styling with default IE 11 settings...sad when I have to compatibility mode for a MS site

HopelessN00b

Chalk it up to "web sucks." Concise and comprehensive.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b Javascript sucks. The web is merely infected.

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 No, there's also Java, and Flash, and PDF, and countless other piece of shit that only exist because of the web, and permeate it to its very core.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b Well the person who devises a way to kill them deserves a medal

PDF isn't so bad, except for that whole remote code execution business

voretaq7

15:09

@HopelessN00b Java isn't web only. PDF is a useful technology.

Flash has been dead to me for decades.

MDMoore313

@voretaq7 Yeah, java exists b/c of the incessant need of being lazy while writing software for multiple platforms

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Yeah, wish I'd had the foresight to patent that idea. "Hey, let's treat and render documents as images! Call it portable! Make millions off it, for some reason!"

voretaq7

@MDMoore313 If Java didn't suck as a language and the JVM wasn't full of terrible decisions I wouldn't have any problem with it - if it were invented today (when systems have enough power to bootstrap a fat-ass runtime) it would probably be tolerable.

MDMoore313

@voretaq7 haha, yeah if water wasn't wet eh

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b PDF is effectively equivalent to postscript - I don't understand what your problem is with it. The other option is to literally treat documents as images and send bitmapped pages around the internet.

MDMoore313

15:13

@voretaq7 That'd be horrible, but like I said, the whole remote code execution business.....

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Even if, you know someone would find a way to fuck it up. Like deciding to install it on a coffee maker, or a light bulb, or whatever other internet-of-things thing they could think of.

voretaq7

@MDMoore313 None of my PDF viewers supporrt that bullshit so I don't generally care about it

HopelessN00b

"Why does my icemaker keep running out of memory and crashing?" Because Java™.

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MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b You mean like my blu ray player? Thanks Sony.

ewwhite

@voretaq7 So MH370 crashed in the Indian Ocean.

voretaq7

15:15

but even that is arguably "useful" (you can do everything you do in an Excel spreadsheet, except it's cross-platform)

@ewwhite probably

ewwhite

@voretaq7 cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/…

voretaq7

but hasn't that been the assumption of everyone who wasn't drunk or stoned? :)

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Well, to be fair, they gave you fair warning. The word Sony on the front was full disclosure that it would be a crippled piece of shit.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b Yeah, real devs use Linux for that sort of thing

voretaq7

@ewwhite it's still just a (sound) working assumption until they find the black boxes

MDMoore313

15:16

@HopelessN00b touche, but is there really anything better?

ewwhite

Why is my Windows 2012 limited?

voretaq7

or a chunk of wreckage with a tahi number :)

MDMoore313

@ewwhite firewall? dns?

voretaq7

@ewwhite "limited" is more sensitive than "retarded"?

HopelessN00b

@MDMoore313 Sure, anything? Honestly, I hate optical disks so much I have 30 TB of RAID so all my media's on spinning rust, as a file. Without shitty DRM or other ridonkulousness.

@ewwhite Are you sure it is? Sometimes it just says that. Try hitting up an external address (browser, ping, whatever), and see if that goes away.

MDMoore313

15:18

@HopelessN00b yeah I'm thinking of going that route, I need to b/c my toddler destroys optical disks for fun

Bob

@ewwhite Because it's having trouble loading www.msftncsi.com/ncsi.txt

MDMoore313

@ewwhite haha network location awareness probably

@ewwhite give it a while it should rectify itself

cole

ugh I hate mouth breathers on conference calls

Dude sounds like Darth Vader over here.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite There was an article on Wired last week, by an experienced pilot saying the same thing... pretty convincing.

MDMoore313

@HopelessN00b I saw that they tried to dismiss his claims also, scary.

HopelessN00b

15:28

More proof of the boundless reaches of human stupidity, or something.

ewwhite

My forest is being upgraded :(

I don't know what that means

Nathan C

@ewwhite Changing it to the 2012 forest?

ewwhite

It's taking too long!

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Why you say that? Longer = more billable hours, no?

ewwhite

15:45

yes.

Travis

@voretaq7 What question? :)

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite :( Probably gonna need to check the logs to figure out how to fix that.

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b I pulled the server out the rack and blew on it a few times... Now it works!!

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Travis

@HopelessN00b You must work in my office. I wish the same thing daily.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Heh. That's a new one to me. Have to add it to the troubleshooting checklist. If AD configuration fails, then pull server and blow on it.

@Travis Shitty management's all alike.

ewwhite

16:01

@HopelessN00b Just yesterday, I ran into a VMware issue where the instructions were to "walk away from the keyboard and let it sit for about an hour."

The #VMware #vSphere Data Protection upgrade process is just painful! - http://www.filippello.com/?p=211 @VMwarevSphere @VMware #sysadmin

Tweeted by ewwhite910 on March 23, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Travis

@HopelessN00b I'm the manager...but the owner figured our $60k "ERP" works just fine for this $100m company...why do we need something that's $400k?

He also questioned why I have to get everyone off Windows XP by April 8th... His comment was, "will it stop working"... YES! It will. Every Windows XP machine here will stop working on April 8th...except the one you have at home.

Chopper3

@ewwhite I had a look at VDP and stopped when it didn't work on VM's with hyphens in their names, wonder if that's fixed now? VDR was such a pile of crap it put me off VDP, and yes I know it's wildly different

ewwhite

@Chopper3 VDP works... but it's really Avamar... and there's a whole world of hurt involved in maintaining it.

cole

Anyone know of a way to test a Windows service account from Linux?

HopelessN00b

@Travis Well, sounds like your owner is being too managementy... and he's bad at it, surprise, surprise.

@cole RDP?

cole

16:07

@HopelessN00b service account - can't log in

Travis

@HopelessN00b His solution for our "fax line was down" was to have the receptionist dial the number to make it "busy" so it would roll over to the secondary line. She had to hit redial every 3 minutes...

HopelessN00b

@Travis Ugh, maybe we do work at the same place. Well we're billion dollar company, so I guess not... but that sounds like exactly what we would do.

Travis

My solution was: "Now is the time to get everyone off faxing us orders"

HopelessN00b

@cole Guess you'd have to use PAM.

Microsoft even punched up an article on authing against AD with Linux clients... maybe something in it is helpful.

@Travis Yeah, <sigh>, I think it was only a couple months ago that I had to try to track down fax drivers. For our shiny new Windows 2012 Print servers. I died a little more inside.

Fortunately, I couldn't find any, so I didn't have to kill myself (or anyone else).

Travis

We just upgraded to server 2008

cole

16:13

@HopelessN00b just found that myself, thanks.

Travis

and replaced 8 year old desktops with new ones

HopelessN00b

@Travis Yeah, we're trying that. I'm getting tired of trying to fight for not moving the same old shit to a shiny new package... so we'll probably end up moving the same old shit to a shiny new package. :)

Travis

@HopelessN00b haha! They did fortunately let me migrate our CRM database off a 2003 physical machine (4GB RAM/1.2 Ghz quad core) onto a 2008 VM (16GB RAM, 2.3Ghz quad core). It did slow it down though and I'm trying to work through why... I moved the file shares off that same server onto a different '08 VM and it's slower too.

Tanner

@Travis That's awesome

Travis

@Tanner Moving it or watching everything slow down?

*2.93...not 2.3

Tanner

16:20

@Travis Redial.

Travis

I'm guessing it has something to do with the NUMA aware technology for the slow down. Gotta find my perfect match.

@Tanner I felt dumb after that..."why didn't I think of that" oh right...it wasn't LOGICAL

Tanner

@Travis Well, for certain short-sighted definitions of the word "logical", it does make "sense". :)

Should have at least punched up a bash script that continually makes requests curl requests to a phone API so that would call it, instead of making the poor reception hit redial every 3 minutes like some kind of trained monkey.

Or actually fix the problem... or remove the need for a god damn fax machine in 2014

Travis

It was more fun for me to watch the trained monkey... Although I don't want to insult the monkeys. She called me the other day and said her whole computer just went black. I shadowed over...told her the monitor was off. She argued with me that it wasn't... Someone walked by and pushed the power button to screw with her and she didn't see it.

HopelessN00b

@Tanner Well, until the government gets on board with not requiring faxes, no one else is going to either... but it's still the only way to get documents to a lot of government agencies (short of snail mail) even today.

Tanner

Mar 5 at 18:14, by Tanner

So... I have to go troubleshoot a dial-up hyperterminal issue...

Travis

16:27

@HopelessN00b I don't mind faxes, but when you tell an ERP vendor that 90% of your orders are faxed and they go, "really?" it kind of makes you wonder

Tanner

That was for Medicare. :(

mossy

Don't worry I'm back.

Travis

The monkey just called me and asked me why her excel spreadsheet is printing off in 4 pages even though it is landscape... "welllll...because there are 4 pages...."

HopelessN00b

@Travis Things like that remind me of that saying about not every customer being one worth having.

Travis

We accept credit cards. They want to do away with them because of the "fees" that get charged... Here's an idea...BUILD IT INTO THE PRICE! No one gets that

ewwhite

16:30

What happens when questions are migrated from another site, but the author doesn't have an account here? Is the question forever orphaned?

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Q: RAID 0 InnoDB speed - Comparing 8 x 7,200 RPM drives or 4 x 15,000 RPM drives

I am planning to set up a RAID array for scratch space use in a computational server (16 cores, 128 GB RAM). The users will routinely be creating large (500GB) MySQL InnoDB databases and storing these temporarily to the scratch space. The databases are filled with data from a cluster which may ha...

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Unless the author creates/associates an account. I've seen questions like that as old as 2010, and there a re probably older ones I haven't seen.

Nathan C

March 2014 Data Usage*
304 GB

Because Netflix

ewwhite

Well, that sux

Mathias R. Jessen

lol, Windows XP <3 on the International Space Station

HopelessN00b

@MathiasR.Jessen In fairness, hasn't the space program always been kinda behind the times, as far as software goes? Seems kinda weird for an industry all about the cutting edge of technology, but, nonetheless...

Ugh... so many thing about this make me sad.

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Q: Windows XP Service Dependency Order and SQL Express

Several years ago I built and deployed a system on XP that involved a custom written service that talked to a local 2008 SQL Express instance (that also had a CLR dependency). At the time I set up the custom service to be dependent on the Express service starting up, and all seemed well. Fast f...

sql-server-2008 windows-xp windows-service

Mathias R. Jessen

16:41

@HopelessN00b Yeah, it's a bit strange. On the other hand, you need well-proven tools for cutting edge science

HopelessN00b

They're talking about upgrading this system to Windows 7, by the way.

Mathias R. Jessen

> is more of a "Hello world" statement?

lol

HopelessN00b

@MathiasR.Jessen My assumption is that is has more to do with the levels of bureaucracy.

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Or epic levels of "if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it"

and suddenly, rootkit on ISS that causes it to be self-aware and vaporizes everything.

Tanner

@NathanC That sounds like a great maxim to live by when surrounded by the vacuum of space.

HopelessN00b

16:53

@NathanC I could buy that if they actually fixed the shit that was wrong, but they... well, they don't. That's why their shuttles kept exploding. Looks to me more like a case of bureaucratic paralysis.

ewwhite

Meh, I've tried too hard with answers today. Time to give SF a break :)

mossy

I like how Comcast randomly added TV to my account.

Joel E Salas

@HopelessN00b they kept exploding because they analyzed the risks and decided it was worth proceeding with the launch anyway

Tanner

@mossy oh nice

mossy

@Tanner I might just pay it.

Joel E Salas

16:55

@mossy Saved you the trouble right?

mossy

Not worth calling and fighting about

Nathan C

@Tanner True story.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Wish I could do that... but it would mean going back to work, so I don't see how that's a good idea.

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