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ewwhite

00:00

@freiheit So how do I get a facter fact from /opt/puppet/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/facter/ to all clients?

Scott Pack

Woah woah woah. So how I can actually say "So's your face!" and it will have actual technical validity to our conversations? Righteous!

Michael Hampton

What is it with idiots on abuse desks lately? First GoDaddy, now Microsoft.

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Ry Jones

so a guy that got fired months ago is finally causing a ruckus about his missing paycheck... which is missing because he didn't fill out a timecard for his last day.

Mark Henderson

4

A: How many different parts of speech can the f-word be used as?

Noun: "Like fuck you will!." Also, since this is contended: Hard as fuck or Yes, thank you, I'd love a fuck. Pronoun: "I hit fuck-face over there with a baseball bat." (both cheating and plagiarizing @Joe but you said nothing about hyphenated forms) Adjective: "He's fucked!" Verb: "Fucked if ...

3

Favourite. Answer. Ever.

Journeyman Geek

00:15

@MichaelHampton; two words. lowest bidder

Scott Pack

@RyJones Those jerkfaces in payroll.

Ry Jones

@ScottPack even better, he was a contractor, and he didn't fill out a time card with his agency, either

Michael Hampton

@terdon That's just too fucking restrictive. Fuck that! — Michael Hampton 2 mins ago

Scott Pack

> Have you ever put toothpaste on your testicles?

Oh Top Gear.

Anonymous

00:31

@ScottPack which episode?

Mark Henderson

uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/…

> "Fuck fucking fucked fucker fucking fuckups fuck fucking fucked fucking fuckup fucking fucker's fucking fuckup." is a grammatically correct sentence first said by Lewis Black which can often be used as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated constructs.

Anonymous

>unfunnypedia

Anonymous

No thanks

Anonymous

I'd rather have my Encyclopedia Dramatica

Scott Pack

@PatoSáinz 21x05

Mark Henderson

00:35

@ScottPack I dunno about top gear these days. I've been watching for about 7 years and have watched every single episode from s1e1 of the rebooted series, and I really, really prefer the old stuff

In a whole series now you get about 15 stunts and skits and about 5 car reviews

And even their car reviews are stunts, like driving htem through shopping centers

I'm sure it makes them a buttload of money, but I might have to watch fifth gear now

Scott Pack

I watch it for the entertainment value, so all that nonsense is my motivating factor.

Mark Henderson

Well, their production values certainly are substantially higher these days

They can afford proper HD cameras and lighting and filters

And a lot of post-production editing

Scott Pack

Yeah. The cinematography is downright beautiful.

Anonymous

01:03

2

Anonymous

oh, consumer shit hehe

Scott Pack

Looks about right.

Michael Hampton

@PatoSáinz Surprisingly accurate.

Journeyman Geek

have you tried ~~setting the little fucker on fire~~ turned it off and on again?

(And yes, I do find it helps sometimes)

ewwhite

01:27

I want to cry...

Ed, we're adding 9 more access points tomorrow...

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Oh boy

ewwhite

Do we have enough ports to power them?

Anonymous

@ewwhite run while you still can

Zoredache

Well not all the lights are on. Just unplug those cables, they obviously are not being used. :p

Mark Henderson

As an aside, I hate black network cables. They're almost impossible to visually trace when you're squinting between network equipment

Scott Pack

01:29

ewwhite

Only the bottom switch is PoE

Scott Pack

Problem solved.

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson I like blue, red and green

and yellow for important shit

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Since I discovered a provider who makes custom cables with different coloured jackets and cables, I've been waiting for an excuse to use them

I'm thinking pink cable = iSCSI, red boot = live, purple boot = standby

Or something anyway

@ewwhite Are they aware that they want to plug 9 AP's into an 8-port switch?

ewwhite

they don't realize that the other switches aren't PoE

Mark Henderson

01:36

I also particularly like the single zip tie on the cable with nothing else on it

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson Fucking unfor-fucking-givable than none of those fucking fuckers linked "usage of the word fuck." Those fucks fucked-up bad.

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b It was in the last post

The Monty Python version?

@ewwhite PoE injectors for all!

ewwhite

eff that

Anonymous

HopelessN00b

01:38

@MarkHenderson Yeah... did not show up for me. Guess it's time to restart FF... probably not enough memory to process all my open tabs. >:/

Anonymous

these could come handy for you, @ewwhite

Mark Henderson

@PatoSáinz Oh fuck no

Anonymous

@MarkHenderson lol ya

Michael Hampton

@PatoSáinz I think your warranty is void now.

Mark Henderson

Anonymous

01:43

@MarkHenderson PoE

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson I think that twat whose answer you deleted is upset.

serverfault.com/a/580108/118258

Fuck you

1

"assholes, the whole damn lot of you fools"

Lol.

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b He was explained, twice, why his answers were deleted

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson No doubt. Just saying I don't think he liked the explanation.

jscott

02:29

Has anyone here installed an after market roof rack on their car/truck/whatever?

Stack Exchange

myotherpcisacloud.com: Powershell Dynamic Arrays Will Murder You, Also... A Pretty Picture! (Part 1 of X)

posted on March 06, 2014 by ryan

I was browsing the web a couple days ago and I saw this post, which I thought was a fun idea. I didn't want to look at his code though, because, kind of like reading movie spoilers, I wanted to see if I could do something similar myself first before spoiling the fun of figuring it out on my own. The idea is that you create an image that contains every RGB color, using each color only once…

Andrew

03:22

Anyone doing company-wide HTTPS MITM?

jscott

@Andrew Not yet? But as we've a domain CA, we may as well? :)

Mark Henderson

@Andrew We do it on our terminal servers

Andrew

@jscott it's more "forge all HTTPS certs, push new CA cert via GPO"

Ry Jones

@Andrew my employer does

Mark Henderson

New survey says that 2/3 of employers to MITM SSL inspection!

Andrew

03:23

... anyone use a "verify SSL certs" browser extension then?

Mark Henderson

@Andrew We control our terminal servers tightly. So no.

jscott

@Andrew Yeah, got that part. Guessing it's only one more GPO setting to disable users from installing "verify SSL certs" browser extensions. :)

Andrew

it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4862143&cid=46411347

Mark Henderson

@Andrew We do not do it to keep people off certain sites. We don't do any URL categorisation.

We do it so that we can anti-virus everything at the edge of the network

We have a terminal server that's shared with users from 20-30 different companies, some of them quite large companies

Ry Jones

so I discovered that Rachel's Ginger Beer has varying levels of carbonation

the first two flavors, shook up a lot and got a little "pffft" when I opened the bottle

third flavor - major mistake, ginger beer everywhere

also, Microsoft is probably king of the malware, they push all kinds of crazy shit to corporate desktops.

HopelessN00b

03:33

Is DFS always a horrible fucking nightmare, or is the DFS setup at [$employer] just more effed up than most everything else?

jscott

My bet is on the setup being effed.

Ry Jones

it was excellent when I worked at Microsoft. I've never seen an implementation outside of Microsoft that was anything close to excellent

HopelessN00b

@Andrew We do too. I keep hoping vendors... or someone, anyone, will find a way to make it not work, though, as I think it's a shitty practice.

Mark Henderson

UK - We call it Autumn, from the French word "autompne" and later, the Latin "autumnus" USA - WE CALL IT FALL BECAUSE LEAF FALL DOWN

Tweeted by Turbo_Jimmy on November 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

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jscott

You're only as sick as the certs you trust.

HopelessN00b

03:40

@RyJones Don't suppose you recall or know anything about how to replicate that lack of suck in a DFS implementation, do you?

jscott

USian here, both "fall" and "autumn" are in common use. Many areas don't experience the whole change-of-seasons, leaves falling, thing.

HopelessN00b

Turns out that the only thing worse than dealing with printers is dealing with printers that read files from a DFS share.

jscott

@HopelessN00b Wat

Ry Jones

I'm sure technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736324(v=WS.10).aspx was written from it

HopelessN00b

@jscott Yup. Read "labels" (label templates) from a DFS share, add lot numbers or whatever into the template, then print the whole mess onto some fucking box. Worst thing ever.

Ry Jones

03:42

@HopelessN00b sounds like you need mail merge

technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg690154.aspx ha ha

Unfortunately, there has never been a comprehensive DFS best practices document.

HopelessN00b

@RyJones Yeah, seen that.. not much of a help.

@RyJones No, that's valid. As bad as DFS is, it's still orders of magnitude better than FRS.

jscott

I'm more amused at the idea that printers are doing SMB/CIFS client stuff.

Ry Jones

@HopelessN00b what problem are you having with DFS?

HopelessN00b

@RyJones Almost everything under the sun. Replication breaking/stopping (without any warning or errors, and reporting as fine with the diag tools) happened a couple weeks back, 6 hours today has been spent on a folders disappearing from DFS (for some client machines) without any ostensible cause, and if I dig back further, there are other WTF moments.

Ry Jones

wow.

HopelessN00b

03:52

Of course, I'm not sure it's even DFS that's the problem. Could be that we use VLAN1 everywhere, could be our goddamn WAN-traffic optimizers (Riverbeds), could be the fact that we have an MPLS mesh of T1s choking on normal network traffic, could be our forest/domain naming clusterfuck... but for how nigh-on-impossible it is to get a proper debug/diagnostic-level report out of DFS, it's hard to know where to look for what.

Ry Jones

of all of that, we only have DFS and Riverbeds at work now.

HopelessN00b

Oh, that reminds me. Also, bi-directional DFS replication, FTF.

@RyJones Riverbeds don't cause you problems with DFS, I take it? Guess I'll bump those down on the list of possible causes.

Ry Jones

@HopelessN00b They aren't for us, but we also don't do bi-di DFS

we're pushing build products out to remote offices

there's some other stuff, too - we use DFS for user directories on windows - but that is very low volume. it might as well be read-only - people use it to share ssh keys among machines

HopelessN00b

Makes sense. I think our PHBs just decided that they'd rather spend more on these devices than on expanding our WAN bandwidth, for some reason, and use them to optimize all our traffic so we can almost fit it in a T1 (or 2 T1s) between all our remote sites.

Ry Jones

shit, until twitter moved into our building, we had the single available T1 with (no shit) comcast business class cable as our backup

HopelessN00b

04:00

Oh, DFS, not Riverbeds. Gotcha.

Ry Jones

sorry, I should use fewer pronouns.

HopelessN00b

@RyJones That would be a step up for us. We have the T1's and no backup. We've been pushing hard to get business-class cable or whatever else we can in, but no go... for some reason.

Ry Jones

@HopelessN00b our building ingress was "full", whatever that means (the building is half empty). I think they just didn't want to sell the pipe

getting serious pipe downtown Seattle is actually really hard

strugee

pipe?

Ry Jones

well, good night

jscott

04:03

Pipe, you know, a series of tubes.

strugee

as in a plumbing pipe? I figured it must be something else

HopelessN00b

'night.

@strugee Internet pipe. I image other types of pipe are readily available out there in Seattle. <inhales>

strugee

ah

we do have some underground buses/trains so I was confused. and it doesn't help that I spend a lot of my time on Unix & Linux, talking about chaining commands...

HopelessN00b

Chaining commands... another thing that sounds a lot more fun and kinky than it actually is.

strugee

@HopelessN00b whois; talk; date; grep; mount; yes; more; fsck; yes; umount; sleep

freiheit

04:17

@strugee s/;/ &&/g; # Need to verify success of a step before moving to next

strugee

@freiheit true, but I also need to be lazy

typing & repeatedly requires finding the 7 key repeatedly, which is something which I am not good enough at yet on my (blank) keyboard

HopelessN00b

strugee

@HopelessN00b there's a network by my high school named "Chode"

but sadly I don't have the dubious pleasure of connecting to it

HopelessN00b

That seems very appropriate for a highschool, for some reason.

strugee

I mean it isn't actually run by the school to be clear

but yeah I agree

Mark Henderson

04:23

@HopelessN00b If you fsck daily then I think you have some serious filesystem issues you need to get looked at

strugee

depends on if he fscks on boot or not

Mark Henderson

Also, my home looks similar, except it's fifty variations of BIGPOND29AE

And you can reverse engineer the default WPA2 keys by using the addresses on the ends of the AP names

strugee

@MarkHenderson related:

I hear this is an option in the latest Ubuntu release.

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson I think that my Windows 7 machine fscking at all would be indicative of a big problem. I kinda wanna try it out to see how it would go horribly wrong... so I guess I'll try it out on someone else at work tomorrow.

Mark Henderson

itwire.com/business-it-news/security/…

HopelessN00b

04:30

Probably makes me an ass, but you're kind of begging for it, leaving your credentials as default, no matter what the device or application.

strugee

sounds like food for IT Security

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b I agree

They also all come hard-coded to channel 11

strugee

@HopelessN00b not an ass. just clueful.

Mark Henderson

So they're stomping all over eachother as well

HopelessN00b

...and now I've gotten my daily dose of mind-numbing fail from The Workplace. My coworkers don't clean the toilet after themselves

strugee

04:33

@HopelessN00b I'm not even fazed. try going to high school again. it's terrible

HopelessN00b

@strugee I got suspended and arrested enough my first time through, thanks. No need for a second pass.

strugee

@HopelessN00b ouch. I stand by my point, though

HopelessN00b

@strugee True enough, just don't think you'll be done with that BS once you get out of high school. As you can clearly see, there are alleged adults out in the real world who can't even use the toilet properly.

strugee

@HopelessN00b yeah and don't forget college too

I'm super excited for an entire lifetime of it whoo \o/

HopelessN00b

@strugee That's a little better. At least you have more freedom to choose who to associate with (or not) once you're no longer legally compelled to spend 8 hours a day with juvenile asshats you wouldn't cross the street to piss on. Get to college, and you're choosing to spend time with them. ... well, it is better, even if it doesn't sound like it. :)

In any event... have a good night all. I need to get my sleep in, so I can face printers and DFS and stupid bosses, and other fates worse than death.

strugee

04:40

@HopelessN00b \o/

night!

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b Shit man I don't need an SE question to tell me that. Our toilets here are disgusting

We share the floor with maybe 10 companies

I go up to Level 5 when I need to take a shit because their floor is just a bank and their toilets are always clean

AJ Henderson

@MarkHenderson - hmm, I was just looking at the chat rooms that were active and saw your name, figured I would say hello

Mark Henderson

@AJHenderson Haha it's a fairly common name

I've seen you in the teachers lounge

MikeyB

05:05

Had to stop by to show this:

"Before I could begin re-configuring the storage on their SAN to make it more efficient I had to first wipe all of the data from the SAN. Before doing this I shut down all of the VMs running off of this SAN and exported them to several external hard drives."

OH GOD NO I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1zntp6/i_just_dont_know_what_to_do/

And that's why you don't put critical data on shitty external USB hard drives.

Mark Henderson

@MikeyB You know what though? At least he tried

I don't buy his excuse about why there's no backups though

That's just poor planning

strugee

> I'll quit my job, grow a beard, move to South America, marry a hooker, raise a family and look back on this day as the day that kick-started the rest of my sun burnt life.

excellent plan, that

strugee

06:19

@terdon you have Server Fault's approval

6 hours ago, by Mark Henderson

4

A: How many different parts of speech can the f-word be used as?

Noun: "Like fuck you will!." Also, since this is contended: Hard as fuck or Yes, thank you, I'd love a fuck. Pronoun: "I hit fuck-face over there with a baseball bat." (both cheating and plagiarizing @Joe but you said nothing about hyphenated forms) Adjective: "He's fucked!" Verb: "Fucked if ...

Iain

07:09

G'day

Falcon Momot

yo

Iain

Are you well ?

dawud

07:53

morning

Dennis Kaarsemaker

08:21

moin

Dan

08:38

Morning

Timo002

09:06

Hello all. I'm trying to get rewritelog working. And it works, I added rewriteLog directive to my httpd.conf file

However, it's now only logging for the "main domain" that's running on the VPS where also Plesk is running on.

On a different domain running on the VPS I'm not getting any rewrite log's

VPS is running in CentOs 6.3 with Parallels Plesk 11.5.30

Iain

@Timo002 httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog

Timo002

@I

@Iain, What are you trying to say?

i got the rewritelog working.

I've added these lines:

RewriteLog /var/www/vhosts/domain/logs/rewrite.log

RewriteLogLevel 5

Iain

@Timo002 Where you put them is important - it's in the documentation

Timo002

But this only shows all rewrite logs of the "main" domain, not for all other domains running on the VPS

Iain

Anyway

> This is NOT a place for 'Live Support', Ask questions on the main site.

Timo002

09:15

Sorry. I already have a thread running, but the response is not that fast and hoped this would be easier.

faker

09:29

I love recruiters: "I have a great opportunity for you at the 3rd largest platform in Germany as Devops"

can you give any less information? Of course it took him 3 paragraphs to write that...

Dan

They don't want you to contact the company direct

It gets even worse, though, because being submitted twice is a total nono as well. So over the last few months I've had calls like:

"Would you like to be submitted for a VDI Consultancy role in the Manchester Areas?"
"Yes please"

"Hi, would you like to submitted for a Citrix Consultancy role south of Manchester?"
"Uhhhh"

faker

I get that, but "Devops" - literally the only word with which he described the position - is too vague to know if you would be a fit or not

Dan

Oooh, I see that was the job description :D

faker

the rest was all "bla bla, awesome company, you need to work there! bla bla, he is friends with the CTO and he asked him to contact me, bla bla"

Dan

metro.co.uk/2014/03/06/…

Haha, I love Patrick Stewart

I've just re-read an e-mail I've just sent and, well, holy shit I really should have proof read. I managed a typo, an accidental word addition and an incorrect tense

cole

10:19

good morning

Falcon Momot

morning

cole

whyamiawake

I woke up at 4 with crazy heartburn

Note to self: Don't go out drinking after work - then come home and eat chili at 9PM.

Dan

Anyone who knows Hyper-V around?

cole

I won a $100 Amazon gift card from Solarwinds - weeeeee

Journeyman Geek

10:37

nice

Dan

Happy days

cole

Today I find out what my manager's favor he had to ask me is.

dun dun dun

Dan

Uh oh

cole

Yeah, I finally had time at 4PM and he had a call. So he was like "Well, it's not a 1 minute thing - we'll talk tomorrow."

Prior to asking me to come talk to him for a favor - he kissed my ass for 10+ minutes via Sametime(IM).

So.....that's a thing

faker

I'm moving apartments and it looks like my ISP turned off the connection in the old apartment and didn't move it yet to the new one meh

Journeyman Geek

11:00

hate that when it happens

cole

doh

Ohhh my new computer case will be here today.

pauska

antec?

'MERICA!

@MathiasR.Jessen Have you worked with DirectAccess implementation(s)?

Michael Hampton

11:38

Yow. Getting up at 4:45 am is for the birds.

Iain

@MichaelHampton The birds round here are starting to get noisy at that time now, well the Robins and Blackbirds anyway.

Michael Hampton

I did learn there's a two-lane roundabout at the airport though.

Iain

That's an odd thing ?

Michael Hampton

@Iain It's new for us... though I haven't been out to the airport for several years.

Iain

ah right they're not common $elsewhere

Michael Hampton

11:44

They're not common in the US at all.

Dan

12:04

Roundabouts are everywhere here

Journeyman Geek

they're a british thing

Dan

I think most of Europe has them

Journeyman Geek

but your roundabouts have roundabouts.

Dan

Haha, some do

Iain

They solve a problem quite well, though in some circumstances they cause worse problems

Dan

12:08

@Iain It's crap when you have a very minor road entering a roundabout where endless traffic is coming. Especially if it's a fast roundabout

And, no kidding, it took me about 15 minutes to get off the M6 at J19 on Monday

Iain

@Dan It doesn't need to be a minor road, we have several motorway junctions on the M53 that had that problem and people backed up onto the motroway because of it

Dan

@Iain Stupid

I was far happier on the train this morning

Iain

It just needs fast flowing traffic that doesn't circulate

Michael Hampton

In the US, something simple like this will give people fits.

Dan

I must admit, I spend a lot of time moaning about driving over here but yeah, the US takes the cake :D

I still love y'all, though

jscott

13:03

There's a series of two lane roundabouts just around (ha!) the corner from me. I've seen drivers make left turns into the oncoming traffic. Frightening.

Mathias R. Jessen

@pauska Only on UAG 2010

Dan

I'm working at a building society and there are loads of things called Name BS. I can not stop reading BS as Bullshit

cole

13:41

I hate dealing with account lockouts

Chopper3

this is not for me but what's a step up from a raspberry pi but is still very small?

cole

Intel NUC?

jscott

@cole Go get Get-LockedOutLocation PS1 and stop hating.

cole

@jscott I have a syslog server

just a PITA

jscott

Ah, carry on then.

Chopper3

13:51

@cole I'll take a look, thanks

cole

@Chopper3 Core i3/i5 - not sure if there's a Corei7 version - but it's small

Chopper3

that's more than capable, cheers

cole

I'm going to have to go to ADFS training

hnggggggggg

Awal Garg

Is there a meta site for chat.stackexchange.com?

Or a meta room I should say...

jscott

@AwalGarg Not that I am aware of. It seems most SE-wide issues are still handled on meta.stackoverflow.com. I know there was talk of a meta.stackexchange (proper), but I've not seen that yet either.

Awal Garg

13:58

Anyways, is there a stackexchange api available if someone wants to run a local version of the forum at a small server or network?

Basil

morning

cole

sup @Basil

jscott

@AwalGarg SE makes available data dumps, but not software stack. You may find their Data Explorer of some use.

Awal Garg

I wanted to run a local version of the stack exchange forum for my and my mates' use. Is it possible in any way?

Basil

@AwalGarg Pretty sure it's proprietary. Why don't you create a private subreddit instead?

Awal Garg

14:05

I like the taste of SE..

Basil

@AwalGarg Speaking as someone who isn't a mod and doesn't work here, that's probably not going to change anything. They paid good money to pay people to build this, and I doubt they'd let someone else run it.

jscott

@AwalGarg There are some SE "clone" projects. Not sure of the quality of any of them.

479

Q: Stack Overflow clones

Listed here are clones of the Stack Exchange sites model.

Awal Garg

@Basil I'm not using it commercially

@jscott does anyone of them offer an api?

tombull89

@Chopper3 Intel NUC, as mentioned, or the Novatech Pockit - novatech.co.uk/pockit

cole

still dunno what favor my manager has to ask of me

Chopper3

14:15

@tombull89 actually I suggested a BeagleBone Black (?!!) and that'll do the trick apparently

tombull89

No, the only way to get a site is to propose it on Area 51, or host your own with something like OSQA.

jscott

@AwalGarg No idea. You could try visiting some of the project pages listed in the answer. StackExchange does have an API, but it sounds like you want to run your own stack.

Awal Garg

thnx for your help

tombull89

and the "hopelessly lost user of the day" award goes to this guy:

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A: How do I get my server off the ivmSIP/24 blacklist?

mr mcewen i am a solicitor and i cannot send emails to another solicitor i always do business with - this is causing me major troubles and cost in sending faxes. I note your reply above but like i said i am a solicitor not an IT expert and I don't know how to do these things. Please simply remove...

cole

15:02

Dammit Hangouts - why did you break again!?

RobM

15:19

I think I need to set some boundaries with our new senior Dev

I was told to give him local admin access on the production sharepoint servers, so I did (never waste energy fighting battles you will never ever win, right)

He emailed me asking if we should apply SP1 for Sharepoint 2013 the day after it was released. I said "good idea, we should schedule that for the next outage". He went quiet then said "I may have already installed it on half the servers in the farm". I let it go because it was too late by then...

Scott Pack

Well. I had a sad moment this morning. My Doctor Mayhem badge popped off my bag at the datacenter. Came right off the pin.

cole

Doh.

tdk2fe

@RobM why are developers patching servers?

cole

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RobM

@tdk2fe because I had not yet had the frank exchange of views with them that I have just this second finished having...

Basil

15:48

@RobM And how did that go?

mossy

Anyone get CompTIA discounts?

GIVE ME CODESSSS

cole

What do you want CompTIA for?

mossy

Going to take the Linux+ exam.

cole

ah

RobM

I think they were receptive to my ideas @Basil

cole

15:50

@RobM if not, beat them with their own limbs.

RobM

@cole i was seriously considering that earlier.

tdk2fe

@RobM at least people were receptive ... always annoying when ignorance gets defended with more ignorance

mossy

@Cole I need your input

cole

Sup

RobM

@tdk2fe they're a smart person who just didn't think things through, in fairness. I should have said something the first time too...

mossy

15:52

This: comptiastore.com/product-p/0-07-177157-3.htm

Or this: comptiastore.com/product-p/978-1-4260-2205-0.htm

cole

@mossy can I ask you a better question

Why Linux+?

mossy

Because I feel like I need to start somewhere

I'm not just going to bust into RHCE

That's scary.

cole

RHCSA dude

Linux+ is a waste of $$

and it's like $200+

Michael Hampton

If you've got a functioning brain and cash, you can get an RHCSA.

faker

or LPIC-1

mossy

15:57

Ok someone just tell me what to do with my life. I'm indecisive

cole

Well

what do you want to do?

You seem like a sharp guy - I'd go with RHCSA

RobM

If you hate yourself enough then become a sharepoint devops support type person. Or you could play piano in a brothel instead as that's more reputable.

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cole

Or you could be a NT 4.0 sys admin

mossy

Every time I start to research redhat training material, I end up on a page that wants me to sign up for a class that costs 3.5k

Basil

@mossy I hear that electricians make 3x what I do

faker

15:59

I have a couple of certifications, I never learned anything useful when getting them.
If you want to learn something don't limit yourself to certification material

RobM

cleaned out our software library today. Of the 600 cds and dvds it had gathered over the years I decided we should keep 10 of them, and two of those are Windows 98 and NT4 server disks I thought we should nail to the wall for fun...

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