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02:00
@Ethan buy a kill-a-watt to find out
@Ethan Well, considering this thing has a 65W charger, it's safe to assume a 65W max (reality will be much lower) and the rest is multiplication
...yes
mhm
@Ethan I don't understand why you asked a question, then you argue with the guy that answered.
im sorry
02:02
what is your real question?
If you want to talk about max possible power consumption, you can do that without a tool. If you want to know actual power consumption, but a meter like the one @RyJones linked
is it "how much are these freeloading laptop surfers costing my coffee shop?"
haha very related
sort of backwards lol
How much are you costing your favorite coffee shop by freeloading? :D
yes
02:03
so now you know how to solve the problem, go solve it
well not exactly
are you always this helpless?
you've been given both ends of the story, stick it together
I'm trying to figure out how much I and also a general estimate of how much the "average" person could take in terms of money
assuming their paying about 10 cents
per kilowatt-hour
so buy a meter and find out
So get a kill-a-watt and see what average consumption is and extrapolate
02:05
they're $25 from amazon
nobody here can give you a better answer
Or just read some tom's hardware reviews or whatever for average power consumption numbers
(is tom's even still a good source?)
I tried but I can't find anything current
@MDMarra I don't use it
I read one article from 2012
it said the average kilowatt-hour was 6 cents
a newer one says 20 cents
I don't know if its that energy costs more now
so you're on math.se.com and you can't multiply?
02:06
or if the articles are wrong
power rates aren't available on the utility company's site?
not sure which one they are using
generally there's one per municipality
@Ethan Who the fuck is paying 6c/kwh and how do I get in on that deal?
im ignoring any tariffs
02:07
I just found out my parents pay 41c/kwh on-peak. That's crazy expensive, I pay 33c and I thought that was a lot
@MarkHenderson here let me show you the link
@Ethan Probably somewhere in Colorado or something with virtually free electricity from the hoover dam
here
not sure how reliable it is but this guy says 10 cents
that is a useless question.
5 years ago? A lot happens in that time
02:08
stop being helpless and find your utilities web site
I already found it.
@Ethan or just look at your own electric bill
But really, the difference between 10 and 20 cents per kWh when you're talking about 6h of 65w usage is minimal
theyre all small numbers
I pay 13.5 cents per kwh
PSNH charges like 8 cents/kWh and we consider that highway robbery. Fortunately we have competition now and you can get like 6.4 cents
how can it change so fast
I don't know anything about money though lol
anyway, the rates are easy to find (I pasted the rate from the example table, not the correct rate)
02:13
alright sorry for bugging everyone
Of course we also have our own nuclear power plant.
where do you live?
@MichaelHampton I never read my bill, I guess I should
lol I have a friend who has a job where he has to call people up and convince them to buy and install solar panels on their roof for money
@MarkHenderson Backwards Australia again. Fuck. At those rates I'd be working by candlelight.
02:15
my electric for nov-dec was $123 and I almost died
I used 584 kWh last month (ran the heat a lot) and it was $59.23 with all taxes
but it was cold as fuck and we have electric heat
so now isn't the time for me to talk about my electric bill?
@RyJones your rates are about what mine are
huh, my consumption is up 6 kWh over last year
@MichaelHampton It used to be cheap, but the government went and privatised the providers, and then they privatised the infrastructure, and then they made some weird fucking scheme where the people who bill you are not the providers
So the billers buy electricity wholesale from the provider, and then bill you for your usage
So by the time the electricity gets to you, 5 different peopl ehave had their cut
02:16
@MarkHenderson Bizarre. They did something wrong then. When they did something like that here, rates went down.
@voretaq7 I'd post the rates directly, but the bill shows they had a rate change, so I have little tiny credits on every line
@MichaelHampton Yep
272.533 kWh @ $0.000335CR Per kWh <-- credit
584 kWh @ $0.091414 Per kWh was the base rate for the month
They also sold something like $10bn in assets for about $2bn or something
People went to jail over the deal, but it wasn't reversed
@MarkHenderson thievery never is
hmm, looks like next month's rates will be slightly lower due to a merger credit
whatever, this is like the first time I've looked at my electricity bill in a year
02:19
@MarkHenderson how do you know so much about this, do system admins need to know this sort of thing lol
maybe its just I know very little, alright I'm going to leave now
@Ethan thank you
I think I made everything get off topic from what it normally was
is* in here
we don't have a topic really
later
there is no topic in here
just no live support
02:21
we talk about all kinds of stuff, but we also expect folks can do some research effectively on their own :)
I'm not good with search engines
you know people can see the things you've deleted in chat, right?
there is always so much stuff out there
@MDMarra he doesn't know that, no
@MDMarra yea it's a compulsion
never sure what is trustworthy and what isn't
02:23
all of these chat logs live forever on the web.
but...deleting it just removes it from the window
yes, I do it so I can't see the words
you can click next to any message and click "history" and see what it used to say
don't encourage him
haha ok fair
He reminds of me of that guy that worked for rackspace for a week
They would get along well
02:24
lol
@MDMarra send an introductory email about electricity rates
Sup, Ravi?
Not much ;p
I like this guy
doing some routine maintainance. Hunting down dustbunnies, performing bondage on redundant cables from one and half decade old installation of cable, and so on.
02:26
it looks like /r/science up in this bitch
2/3 of the messages are [deleted]
(and damnit, I really need to convince my boss/parents that we need a small air compressor)
family business?
yeah
and I'm working around things more than working for them ;p
@JourneymanGeek they're like $50 at Harbor Freight, just pick one up
@Ethan Uhh I'm a home owner and a responsible adult who pays their bills
And reads the news paper
02:27
@RyJones: heh, Apparently it'll take up too much space.
HOWEVER, It'll pay for itself in 6 months.
@JourneymanGeek whatever, I have one in my living room
@RyJones: heh, this is the bad thing about living with parents, and running shit in a home office ;p
I forgot you're outside the US.
you're the guy in the army, right?
@RyJones: I'm a reservist. Not sure why.
@JourneymanGeek ok. well, regardless, telling you to pick up a compressor from a company that sells in the US is piss poor advice on my part :)
02:29
I do very important things like fetching coffee in vast quantities and visiting museums of very obscure nature when I'm called back for training
@RyJones: the issue isn't finding a compressor ;p
its buy in
regardless, time for me to hit the road
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Q: Is there a non-sexual phrase for sleeping with someone?

AnonymousThe phrase, "sleeping with someone," often means "having sex." What is the origin of this sexual connotation? Is there a non-sexual equivalent of this phrase to express sleeping with someone without sexual intercourse?

So I'm going to crash with @joelesalas
naked
@ewwhite when does HP release a new generation of server? To coincide with a new CPU socket?
@MDMarra it always follows Intel
same for Dell/Ibm
So remember the ARM question from yesterday?
02:35
@Andrew: that looks like something you could build a pretty nice nas out of
Yeah I saw that. The density that it'll be capable of is ridiculous but it'll only really be useful for things that are massively parallel but don't need a high individual thread performance
At least at a glance
If you want super small cheap & dumb: 8devices.com/carambola-2
runs OpenWRT
To quote the guy who did a talk on using that vs. RasbPi / Beaglebone: they all have graphics stuff which is unneeded, this doesn't.
I like where the atoms are going there too. An HP Moonshot fully loaded with C2750 blades would be pretty crazy.
@ewwhite ...when I'm having sex with someone I say I'm having sex with them
02:38
Though they're 4.3U. Which is just horrible.
You can get this thing as a bare module (without the ethernet / USB board) if you want super density of them
I don't do this polite euphemisms to spare the children crap. We're fucking like rabbits.
@ewwhite sharing a room?
@voretaq7: problem is I guess, there's so many euphemisms for having sex, and not enough for not having sex
@JourneymanGeek I'm becoming a monk
(with how often I get laid, might as well...)
02:40
lol
@JourneymanGeek Just say !(bouncing the mattress)
@Wesley: I knew someone who used knitting as a euphemism for sex.
@JourneymanGeek I'LL PURL YOU SO HARD!
@JourneymanGeek (And that was your mom and dad's code words around the kids, wasn't it)
@Wesley: I'm sure you clack your needles loudly
we're doing our taxes
02:43
@Wesley: oddly no, twas someone around my age with a much younger girlfriend.
@JourneymanGeek "much younger" Just what are the laws surrounding that in your country?
@KitFox And your computer isn't something you can have sex with...unless you're a very strange individual. — Michael Hampton 10 secs ago
@voretaq7 YOU SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH DON'T REMIND ME
@voretaq7: thats's clearly a euphemism for not having sex... cause there's nothing less sexy than taxes
@Wesley: 26 and 19 IIRC
@JourneymanGeek Oh that's not so bad.
I was thinking, like 31 and 14
02:44
naw ;p
@JourneymanGeek discworld fan?
@JourneymanGeek refund cheques get me hawt.
@Andrew: oddly enough, yes
@JourneymanGeek seamstresses and knitting, eh
(not a discworld fan but have heard the reference)
02:45
@Andrew I know that's a popular euphamism, not sure where it actually began. Reality, I suspect like many of Pratchett's references.
There is nothing new under the sun...
So, what's the over-under on how long it takes @Wesley to build the bike now that he has the frame?
@ShaneMadden 11 years, 3 months, 9 days
@ShaneMadden It's a matter of money at this point. Next up, buying rims and tires.
but the odds on "under" are bad - everyone's betting the over
02:48
wait.
@Wesley has PART of a bike?
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@ShaneMadden Also, the frame hasn't arrived so there's still a chance of a terrible shipping disaster.
@Wesley The frame would have been most of the cost though, right?
Also @freiheit scratch the disc trucker. That'll be bike #2
@Wesley: I know sweet fuck all about bikes but... what frame?
@ShaneMadden Not quite. Brand new LHT was $470. That'll be about 35% of the total build.
@Wesley Ahh, gotcha.
Oh this is awesome.
What's wrong with this picture?
@MikeyB That phone has an abnormally large antenna.
02:51
her posture is all wrong?
She's 15?
There's no monitor.
boooooo
Card her! GRAB HER PURSE AND FIND A LICENSE!!
@ShaneMadden From frame to ridable would be about 50%. Adding panniers, bags, and some sweet sparkly tassels will add a bit more to the price.
@Wesley Gotta have the tassels.
02:53
I hope you're running a tassel-first enterprise.
@MikeyB Also, at least post the high res version
DAT ANTENNA
@Wesley meh, remove the last 'm' from the filename.
@Wesley I know you'll eventually get your bike working...... but in the meantime...
@MikeyB Absolutely nothing?
@ewwhite I have a rake. Guess what you can do with it.
=P
02:55
@Wesley clear the path in front of the house so I can ride my bike-of-the-day?
@ewwhite How much does it pay?
I'll rake your lawn for you.
@ewwhite How do you find these questions?! Do you spontaneously think of the topic, Google it, and find it that way? Or do you troll the other SE sites for odd questions?
@ewwhite If I were you, I'd ride my bike to the kitchen and make a gyro
@ChrisS "I wonder what the total sexual potential of a toothbrush is. In fourteenth century Holland."
02:56
@MichaelHampton Took me at least 10 seconds to figure that out. =]
@Wesley Yes. Exactly
I've been tracing the etymology of "dude"...
all the way back to fop
Fop became a pejorative term for a foolish man overly concerned with his appearance and clothes in 17th century England. Some of the very many similar alternative terms are: "coxcomb", fribble, "popinjay" (meaning "parrot"), fashion-monger, and "ninny". "Macaroni" was another term, of the 18th century, more specifically concerned with fashion. A modern-day fop may also be a reference to a foolish person who is overly concerned about his clothing and incapable of engaging in intellectual conversations, activities or thoughts. Origins The word "fop" is first recorded in 1440, and for s...
Because, that's macaroni
A macaroni (or formerly maccaroni) in mid-18th century England, was a fashionable fellow who dressed and even spoke in an outlandishly affected and epicene manner. The term pejoratively referred to a man who "exceeded the ordinary bounds of fashion" in terms of clothes, fastidious eating and gambling. Like a practitioner of macaronic verse, which mixed English and Latin to comic effect, he mixed Continental affectations with his English nature, laying himself open to satire: The macaronis were precursor to the dandies, who far from their present connotation of effeminacy came as a mor...
That site makes my brain hurt... like:
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Q: Does the term "local unit shipping fee" is a correct word?

KitiWe have "unit price" is the price of 1 item only. And this price does not include shipping fee. I am using the term "local unit shipping fee" to express that is the shipping fee of 1 item only and that fee is just applied for local area. Is that a correct way to express that idea? What is the...

@MDMarra Dude, you made me.
@Wesley I thought we were talking about manscaping.
@ewwhite Depends on how much it pays.
@ewwhite Wait, it's complicated by your hair texture right?
03:02
@Wesley have you ever shaved a black man before? There are some very important differences. It's like going from Linux to Solaris and expecting killall to work the same way.
@MDMarra This is delving into sections of my past that I only remember very dimly.
I can barely shave myself, which is why I have a beard
I can't imagine someone like a barber that shaves people all day
Done.
somehow a pubic hair ended up on my dog... gross
@ewwhite ā€¦ don't they grow those naturally?
03:14
@MikeyB no, he wandered in while I was shaving.
you people are too damn strange.
@Wesley I'm going to see if I can make it out to phoenix sometime before the end of march.
@FalconMomot The city will never be the same.
I was just about to go to bed but then Twitter showed me that @ewwhite is talking about his pubes.
03:21
@FalconMomot What brings you down here?
@Wesley magnetism.
Animal?
@FalconMomot Animal Magnitism?
@ScottPack Fuck you I thought of it first! I just had to goof around with the stupid markdown syntax.
Qockwhisperer
@Wesley heh, no. I'm going to get someone to shove magnets into a couple of my fingertips.
03:23
@FalconMomot Ohh, yeah, I've heard of a guy in Phoenix who does sub dermal body mods. A legend, apparently.
the guy who invented that happens to live near you.
yes, that one.
Isn't that covered by your awesome Canadian health insurance?
ha!
if anything untoward is the result it would be :P
@FalconMomot Is that guy booked out really far?
no idea. hope not.
03:24
So they only cover neodymium?
otherwise I'll have to travel from canada.
@ScottPack heh. they cover titanium sometimes.
That sounds boring
well, yes, it's medicine.
At least the doctors apologize during the procedure.
also: legal weed is brilliant.
03:27
And we make the incision... Sorey aboot that.
you will find yourself in hell.
you know, it's very nice in Canada.
except that everything is slightly more expensive and colder.
I already left Kentucky.
you didn't set it on fire?
hmm
I really want some tea and bread, and I don't feel like crap anymore. yay.
Too much wild pot. Forest fires are interesting.
@ScottPack ha!
03:30
@Wesley Erik got into town last night. Look at the weather.
I told him it's OK because it's a dry cold.
@ScottPack It's Ohio. Of course it's going to be awful.
And not just the weather.
=P
It could only be worse if it was Michigan.
Or Minnesota
Which could only be worse if it was Wisconsin.
Which could only be worse if it was Chicago.
Which could only be worse if it was Detroit.
can we just abolish the whole east coast?
Or @ewwhite's bathroom. That place is apparently full of pubes.
03:32
this seems like an eminently reasonable thing
@FalconMomot I'd be okay with that, but leave Maine for the lobsters.
OK. I'm going to bed now. Gentlemen. Canadians.
And Florida, because we need some place to ship the crazies and fence off. The ocean does a good job of fencing.
@ScottPack head rub
Guy just gave me his business card with PhD tacked on after his name. Wanker, right?
He seemed like a nice guy, but I don't particularly care that you have a PhD
@MarkHenderson I'm pretty sure that a PhD is more than just a certification. When you get one, you're conferred the title "Doctor of..." so you've had a permanently augmented name.
03:38
@FalconMomot Jumping my work car from my family car because the battery discharged from the cold and scraping off a foot of snow was nice, yeah.
@MikeyB well, stop living on the east coast, if you do.
@Wesley Sure but I should have asked him what is PhD was on. It was probably something like The Effect of Electrons on-wire with UTP when the ethernet devices are mounted inversley at either end of the link
@MarkHenderson now now, permanent head damage is a VERY real problem people need to be aware of.
If you have a postgres server which has contention transmitting data does it appear as "slow queries"? i.e. are the queries not considered complete until the results are completely transmitted to the clients?
@FalconMomot SWO, nestled snugly in between a couple Great Lakes.
yuck
that needs to be abolished too
along with ottawa
federalism for the lose
03:40
@FalconMomot: Capital cities have a purpose. Who else would be universally revilled?
Capital cities do not exist. Capitols do, but shouldn't.
apparently I am frightening to babies this week
babies are abominable horrors.
thinks its the stubble.
naw, my nephew is mostly ok
both Hitler and @Wesley were babies at one point, before they became the monsters they did.
03:44
@FalconMomot Ottawa:
@MikeyB Ottawa:
@FalconMomot: But westley redeemed himself! He has part of a bike!
Let me guess @FalconMomot, your two favorite metal bands are Circle of Dead Children and Dying Fetus?
@JourneymanGeek I don't know who that Westley guy is, but if he has a bike part I need I'm totally robbing him.
@Wesley no, when they are dying they are even worse.
@Wesley: don't forget "Modest Proposal"
03:47
I'm wondering if I should set up skype/hangouts on my old phone, so my mom can stop yelling across the apartment for me.
@JourneymanGeek Crank the deathgrind. Problem solved.
@Wesley: my mom blasts religious music.
Its one of the reasons I can't hear here yelling across the apartment half the time.
@JourneymanGeek CRANK THE AUGUST BURNS RED.
(I have nothing against religion. I just think that if I can hear here across the apartment, beyond wifi range, something is messed up)
03:54
@JourneymanGeek Your little suburbia lies in ruins (Original vocalist, hasn't been around in ten years =( )
@JourneymanGeek Also Norma Jean
I've scared you haven't I @JourneymanGeek =(
Well, that's enough quickbooks and tax forms for one night.
@Wesley: no. I did set up a wireless@sg account on the phone tho ;p
@MarkHenderson I'll take two!
04:09
@Wesley It would go well with your Mercedes S65 or Rolls Royce Phantom
@MarkHenderson I want a Phantom so bad.
@JohnD I remember that user
so good
@MarkHenderson the best part is:
@JosephR, my point was, I don't know whether there was relevant use of Unix/Linux in the Twilight saga, so I only criticized the image sizeā€¦ — manatwork 10 hours ago
@MikeyB haha that's gotta be deliberately trolling
I should make a Samba4 ad "You don't need Windows for Active Directory!"
@ShaneMadden Love it.
Okay suzzwads. It is can be nighttiems nao
@MikeyB "You just need Balls of Steel and a cranial injury!"
@MarkHenderson Great quote for the movie poster.
@MarkHenderson Nothing says "Samba4" like a hemispherectomy.
04:22
@Wesley Doing it before the brain swelling goes down after a serious impact is probably a great time to make that decision
05:06
@Wesley I'm pretty sure 'she' is a troll. She stood for the SU election on the platform that she's cute.
05:20
I found the source of the picture "Alex" is using... NSFW blog.livecamnetwork.com/2009/07/…
 
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06:33
Wut? cPanel is advertising for a Linux SysAdmin on Careers.SE? The End is Nigh!
07:12
@Magellan I submitted an application for that, focusing on my desire to use only cPanel to administer cPanel's cPanel servers. Wonder if I'll hear back.
@HopelessN00b hee!
07:32
Hey
howdy
07:57
$OTHER_CLIENT cancelled for today. I think I may actually have time to breathe!

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