The Comms Room

Iain

19:00

we'll see

ewwhite

@Iain Yeah you did that to yourself.

voretaq7

apache-config and apache also point to 2.2 - do you guys think we should bust those synonyms?

(or alternatively should we make the precedent "they go to the most recent version" and move them to 2.4?)

Iain

@ewwhite I don't understand why though I know the tag badges are awarded for points on non CW answers but at the time the badge was awarded the answers weren't CW and it's not like you loose rep at the same time you just stop earning it

ewwhite

@Iain hugs

MikeyB

19:15

0

Q: Expandable Linux filesystem w/ redundancy & support for different drive sizes?

I did a bit of research already and didn't come across any filesystems so far that have the following features: Expandability, Redundancy, and the ability to utilize the full capacity of different disk drive sizes. Basically, I'd like to get a large chassis that will support 20+ 3.5" drives and...

I think you found his desktop.

Chris S

@PatoSáinz They should at least create their own power cables... Save on that huge mess.

MDMarra

@pauska @MathiasR.Jessen I tapped out on the UAG/RDS VDI thing. They're opening a case with MS

Mathias R. Jessen

@MDMarra Sounds like the wiser choice :D

MDMarra

Too many things I don't know about are involved and I don't want to run up the bill on them

A non-production MS ticket is cheaper than an hour of me fucking around

MDMarra

19:35

omg

fml

social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/forefront/en-US/…

UAG 2010 supports SSO for RemoteApp only and the only confirmed documentation of this is a program manager commenting on technet forums

I'm going to go kill myself now. Bye guys

HopelessN00b

Bye the way, Mark, next time you're bored and want to explain simple concepts to idiots, let me know. I always have a backlog of B.S. paperwork for management here, so there's really no need to resort to:

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A: What are some good reasons to create a new forest, child domain, tree, site, or OU in Active Directory?

Forest You want to create a new forest when you need a security boundary. For example, you may have a perimeter network (DMZ) that you wish to manage with AD, but you don't want your internal AD available in the perimeter network for security reasons. In this case, you would want to create a new...

:p

MDMarra

haha

You have no idea how much money I make my employer by doing AD Plan & Designs for companies that have no clue

It's shocking how few people truly understand all of those things in that question

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Yeah, well, I'm still shocked by what passes for "sysadmin" at most places, so not understanding AD even a little seems to follow as a natural consequence.

Ry Jones

@HopelessN00b my guess is that role is doled out to "the guy that had the least to do when the router needed configured" and goes from there

that's how my last startup was, anyway

pauska

@MDMarra ManU - Cardiff starts now

ole gunnar solskjær is the new manager for the away team

special moment :)

MDMarra

19:44

@pauska I get Liverpool v Everton

pauska

@MDMarra not a bad one to be honest, local derby

HopelessN00b

@RyJones It's even worse than that at most non-tech places. It's "most skilled with a computer" which often translates to "once replaced a RAM DIMM" or "knows how format Word documents pretty well."

ewwhite

@MDMarra should we know this stuff?

@MDMarra If only you knew how much money I made off of you!!

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HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Depends. But I'd say that if it's a choice between having someone with a brain who can read a few pages of (free) technet documents and understand the concepts and paying a consulting company 5 and 6 figures to summarize the aforementioned documents, well...

MDMarra

@ewwhite If you're a national company with employees in 50 states and your yearly gross is measured in billions of USD - you should have one guy on staff that knows how AD works

I mean, or you hire my company and pay 30k for it or whatever

HopelessN00b

19:47

Thank God people would rather pay money for it than read the free docs, but it's still a dumb move.

@MDMarra ...and then do it again and shell out monies again in a few years when you need to upgrade or make substantial changes.

MDMarra

I leave excellent documentation behind :D

A typical AD Plan & Design is 5-7 business days and the organization ends up with a 20+ page document, including an appendix with 10-20 links to technet citing relevant sources

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Leave nothing but footprints - that way they have to hire you again next time. :D

MDMarra

ha, if that were the case, our sales guys would have a hard time justifying the initial cost

btw, thats just for plan and design, no implementation

implementation is a separate SKU

@pauska wooooow. Did you see that? (I get the first few minutes of ManU)

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Well, you should tell your sales guys to lie, you know, like every other sales guy anywhere. :)

MDMarra

haha

ewwhite

19:57

@MDMarra I mean, I can't even get that gas company to finish their VPN configuration with me.

MikeyB

@MDMarra Did you get your referral bonus from Bomgar?

MDMarra

@MikeyB Nope, but that was a long time and two employers ago

MikeyB

@MDMarra Ah. We just bought it. :) Maybe they got it.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Heh. I'm doing work for them soon

I forget for what - probably System Center

Actually, I just checked. The SOW isn't signed, so don't mention it ;)

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Hearing that one of Ed's clients runs System Center is chilling. Seriously, I think my body temp just dropped 10 degrees.

MDMarra

20:00

@HopelessN00b This is a fairly large utility company in the PA area

Not his normal produce client

ewwhite

@MDMarra I tried to reach out to my resident Microsoft expert to complete, but he was busy chasing down some SCCM or SCVMM issue somewhere.

MDMarra

hahaha

They dont have any of that yet!

What are you doing for them, anyway?

So when things break, I have specific technologies to point out :D

TheCleaner

Anyone here using Meraki's Systems Manager? meraki.cisco.com/products/systems-manager# I use their APs and love them, and was looking at doing some form of MDM here that isn't too intrusive and is easy enough to manage.

ewwhite

@MDMarra trying to get a VPN established between them and a software development firm I support.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Ah. So you're not doing work on their side, then

thats sad

ewwhite

20:02

@MDMarra their staff has taken 7 weeks so far to establish a site-to-site VPN

MDMarra

Yeah, they're too busy being in roadmap sessions with my boss

suck it

ewwhite

@MikeyB Wanna chime in here?

Ry Jones

@ewwhite world record baby

ewwhite

We have a few SSDs and would like to monitor there health more closely so we can more accurately predict there lifespan, what we don't want is just an alert one morning indicating a bunch of disks are about to die. — user207138 17 mins ago

HopelessN00b

@TheCleaner We're trying to get management on board with using that, actually.

MDMarra

20:04

@ChrisS I disagree with your merge on that question

TheCleaner

@HopelessN00b that exact product? Or something like Airwatch, etc?

JohnD

@ewwhite That's nothing, it's taking 6 months and counting to get a site to site VPN to a site THAT WE OWN.

ewwhite

:(

HopelessN00b

@TheCleaner The exact product. We got their foot in the door with the APs, and want to do moar with Meraki. We had them do a product demo/pitch for management that was really helpful... might be something to do if they've got an office in your city.

Chris S

@MDMarra I thought you might, but I think it's worth it to make a better Canonical knowledge base.

MDMarra

20:07

A lot of people struggle with when to create a new domain or when to create a new tree. It's a more advanced set of ideas than someone looking for what AD is

ewwhite

@MDMarra Do any of my clients need trees?

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Your produce companies need trees. How do you think they get their apples???

ewwhite

@HopelessN00b Oh, apples grow on bushes... just like pineapples...

Nathan C

That moment when an asp.net app hangs the entire server...

MDMarra

@ewwhite trees as in marijuana, yes - all of them. Trees as in a new tree in AD - no.

Chris S

20:08

@MDMarra Seriously, this is one of those times I'm frustrated I can't upvote more... Maybe I'll just add a bounty.

ewwhite

@ChrisS oh no

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Autumn is harvest time for the farmer. At dawn, my dad and I were out in the fields, picking carrots fresh off the trees.

ewwhite

@MikeyB Does it seriously make sense to monitor cheap SSD health?

on a hardware controller?

TheCleaner

@MDMarra - did MS ever offer their own SaaS System Center?

MDMarra

nope

Just Intune, which sort of overlaps with SCCM

They also have System Center Advisor, which you may like

TheCleaner

20:11

OK, yeah I knew Intune, but was curious about something that would be a SCOM in the cloud

MDMarra

check it out, it just went free

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite I almost responded to that comment with something snarky, but left it alone.

MDMarra

@TheCleaner that's exactly what System Center Advisor is, but slimmed down and free

Ry Jones

@MDMarra neat, it would be nice for home use

push vpn profiles out to everything

HopelessN00b

Because no, not really. If the SMART data doesn't alert that the drive's about to die, what are you going to monitor for? Stupid data?

TheCleaner

20:13

@MDMarra that looks nice actually. I'll have to check it out.

MDMarra

It's not nearly SCOM quality, but for free it's worth a look

TheCleaner

Be nice if they actually had a demo vid or something beyond 4 screenshots.

Chris S

@MDMarra Have you ever thought about writing a book? Like a 50 page "What every AD SysAdmin needs to know" sort of thing?

MDMarra

@RyJones No need - there's an agent that calls back to MS. Only outbound firewall rules are required (if your default policy is deny)

@ChrisS nope

Nathan C

wow...this server's locked up tighter than fort knox

ewwhite

20:14

@HopelessN00b Really? With what?

MDMarra

@ChrisS maybe I'll think about it

Chris S

I'd read it =]

ewwhite

@MDMarra Next thing you'll know, you'll be the next Chris Wahl

A tech-blogger4lyfe... Khaki's and vendor polo shirts and trade show lanyards forever.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite I hadn't exactly made up my mind on what specific bit of snark I was going to throw out there, and then MikeyB put his answer down, which covered any value my snarky comment would have added.

TheCleaner

@MDMarra - microsoftvirtualacademy.com/training-courses/… will help me enough to decide if it's right for me...thanks

ewwhite

20:17

@HopelessN00b I don't believe in doing that for cheap SSDs

but what do I know?

I'm on the PCIe SSD tip now.

Ry Jones

SCAT? System Center Advisor Training? Come on

ewwhite

@RyJones Just my style...

MDMarra

@TheCleaner didnt know there was a course for it. cool

@RyJones SCAT SCAT SCAT

Nathan C

result of runaway asp.net process...a 2 GB log file

yay

ewwhite

@MDMarra skeet skeet skeet!!!

TheCleaner

20:24

There's just not a great SaaS monitoring solution out there for small businesses that don't want to spend some money. Spiceworks is ok enough on prem, as is Nagios or any open source/free solution, but to get a decent SaaS service for a small shop that "thinks big" you have to spend $$/month.

MDMarra

Yeah, SaaS + not-spending-money are typically a no-go

The whole point of SaaS offerings is for the recurring revenue

ewwhite

@TheCleaner Yes there are..

Logicmonitor... oh, but that costs $

I've been using Newrelic for servers.

for the pretty graphs...

TheCleaner

New Relic isn't "quick enough". 30 minutes and 24 hours of data retention isn't good enough for me. I'm considering pulling the trigger again on WUG or maybe ManageEngine's stuff...but Spiceworks is so close to decent. The fact that it does 80% so well helps overshadow the overall suckiness that is the other 20%.

Joel E Salas

NewRelic is rad for application monitoring

but that's about it

ewwhite

@TheCleaner I have 7-day and unlimited retention, depending on the server...

TheCleaner

20:31

I just think Spicework's actual "monitoring" sucks. Inventory/classification of devices and auto backups of Cisco configs, etc. is decent enough. But realtime monitoring is meh and I never really get decent alerts.

ewwhite

and the granularity is... 1 minute

Joel E Salas

Spiceworks is for poor people

TheCleaner

@ewwhite oh, and no network monitoring with New Relic. I'd rather stick to one product if possible.

Joel E Salas

@TheCleaner Impossible

ewwhite

I'm at a client who uses Logicmonitor for SaaS

@TheCleaner one product will suck

I use like 7 monitoring tools

TheCleaner

20:33

@JoelESalas we are poor (startup). It's not that I can't spend the money...it's that I'd rather not for our size (O365, 30 users globally, 4 Windows VPS, 2 Cisco VPS for CUCM, nothing but network gear at each site) at the moment. In the former life I had $$$$ budget...now I need to be conservative as I can while we grow.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Why use 7 when you can use one?

SCOM

:D

ewwhite

@MDMarra I don't even know what SCOM does... but it probably won't fix my produce servers.

MDMarra

it's a cross-platform monitoring and alerting solution

TheCleaner

@ewwhite if they are Windows machines...it will be like a MDMarra in a box working for you 24x7.

ewwhite

@MDMarra nah, never heard of it... Is it open source?

Joel E Salas

20:35

@MDMarra Cross platform?

can I yum install scom

MDMarra

@JoelESalas ya

theres a linux/unix agent, but it's a binary

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra Not bad

MDMarra

you can puppet it

ewwhite

yeah, @JoelESalas and I won't fuck with that.

MDMarra

or you can use SCCM to deploy it to your linux/unix since there's an SCCM agent for Linux too! :D

Never used any of it though, I'm mostly just playing around

ewwhite

20:36

I can see @JoelESalas shaking his head...

TheCleaner

@MDMarra did you ever use Live Maps? Or was that @pauska I was speaking to about that? I really liked that product with SCOM. (oh to have unlimited funds again for the good toys)

MDMarra

Places that use it are mostly windows with a smattering on *nix.

ewwhite

and even my dog is shaking his head...

MDMarra

@TheCleaner negative

ewwhite

What do you need to monitor in Windows?

Joel E Salas

20:36

@MDMarra I can see that, like a Varnish in front of IIS or something

@ewwhite Time since last reboot, if it's more than 2-3 days it automatically reboots

TheCleaner

@ewwhite me? or in general?

ewwhite

In general.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Service health. Application performance. Hardware health. resource utilization. Cache misses, etc

ewwhite

I can see that most Microsoft shops eschew SNMP.

MDMarra

You can get application performance for .net, java and some other languages with SCOM so you can see things like time to first byte, time spent in database queries, etc

it'll tell you the specific code for each segment so you can see the troublesome query

ewwhite

20:38

sounds like Newrelic.

Joel E Salas

Yes it does

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Yeah, MS tried to go the WMI route in lieu of SNMP. I'd rather do SNMP, myself, but it's often a pain to configure on Windows boxes.

Joel E Salas

So why does newrelic offer .NET introspection??

MDMarra

@ewwhite No, New Relic sounds like SCOM.

Joel E Salas

@HopelessN00b Microsoft basically says "No dude, don't use SNMP"

MDMarra

20:39

@JoelESalas Probably the same reason SCOM offers Linux support, but reverse

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra SCOM doesn't claim to tell you how Tomcat is doing though

HopelessN00b

@JoelESalas Too bad SNMP >> WMI

MDMarra

@JoelESalas SNMP is deprecated on Windows. It's still there but probably not for long

TheCleaner

@ewwhite New Relic = we'll grab the stats and you decide what to do. SCOM gathers the stats and then says "yo...here's an issue you need to deal with per KB article X or MS Baseline X...want us to do it for you? Click here to remediate"

MDMarra

@JoelESalas It could if there's a Tomcat management pack for it. That's whats great about scom. All of the alerts, monitors, classes, etc are defined in MPs. So vendors can create their own and sell or distribute them for free

HopelessN00b

20:40

@JoelESalas Well, truth in advertising. Even Tomcat doesn't know what the hell Tomcat is doing.... but it's safe bet that it's screwing something up.

MDMarra

Cisco, HP, Dell, etc all make SCOM MPs for hardware status, for example

It's a very modular architecture, and MPs are all XML

There's even a Solar Winds MP, so that if you don't want to use SCOM's network monitoring and want to keep Solar Winds, but want the device info in SCOM, you can.

ewwhite

Yeah, this is the only time I've heard SCOM mentioned.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Are you being serious?

ewwhite

I can't be that sheltered...

MDMarra

SCOM has been around since like 2000

ewwhite

20:41

@MDMarra yep

MDMarra

It used to be called MOM

Joel E Salas

loooooool "MOM"

MDMarra

Microsoft Operations Manager haha, but yeah terrible acronym

ewwhite

nobody I deal with uses it... I don't think I've even seen it on the resumes of people I've interviewed.

Mathias R. Jessen

Still tons of "MOM" references in SCOM 2012 R2 :P

Joel E Salas

20:42

@ewwhite Only @mdmarra is enthusiastic about it

MDMarra

@MathiasR.Jessen And in Service Manager

@JoelESalas My clients that deploy the whole System Center stack are also enthusiastic about it

ewwhite

@JoelESalas I took a look in Chicago, and there are about 30 jobs that mention SCOM

TheCleaner

@ewwhite that's probably because MOM/SCOM overall takes some getting used to. It's definitely not the most intuitive MS product out there. But once it is setup properly, it works wonders for Exchange/SQL/AD/etc. monitoring/issue remediation.

ewwhite

Finance - jobview.monster.com/…

Mark Henderson

Whoah. I should aim for low-hanging fruit more often.

HopelessN00b

20:44

Oh, lol. If you click the off-topic -> other, it actually auto-comments for you.

Mark Henderson

103

A: Is it bad to redirect http to https?

The [R] flag on its own is a 302 redirection (Moved Temporarily). If you really want people using the HTTPS version of your site (hint: you do), then you should be using [R=301] for a permanent redirect: RewriteEngine on ReWriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} !^443$ RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://%{HTTP_HOST}/$...

seriously, +103 for that pile of shit?

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ewwhite

Doing some other bullshit - www7.ultirecruit.com/FEE1000/JobBoard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*2B2780357150A‌EF5

HopelessN00b

This question appears to be off-topic because a troll asked it. — HopelessN00b 3 mins ago

Probably too truthy for here.

ewwhite

Trying to be a Lync engineer - nigelfrank.com/en/vacancy/53068/…

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b Judge the content, not the asker

HopelessN00b

20:45

@MarkHenderson Your is it OK to mount a switch upside down Q is better.

ewwhite

Being the king of the desktops - bmo.taleo.net/careersection/2/…

TheCleaner

@HopelessN00b yes sir. Or I use the auto-comment script to stick mine in a comment if I feel the need to.

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson I did. it's the new Evan Carrol Q about his uncle's SOHO something or other.

MDMarra

@JoelESalas I have a client where we tied Orchestrator, Service Manager, and Operations Manager all together. SCOM raises an alert, that alert creates a ticket in Service Manager. That triggers Orchestrator to run some scripts to try and resolve the problem automatically - if it does, it closes the ticket, if not it assigns it to the operations group

It's cool shit, but it's not cheap and it's "windows first" despite the marketing around it.

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b Yeah but your comment is about the asker, not the question itself

MDMarra

20:46

So you hipsters working for hot devops shops don't have it on your radar

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b Hah, that was a dumb question that I just threw out because I was bored

TheCleaner

@ewwhite 130k for Lync? I guess the crosstalk knowledge required from the telecom industry might push it to that price. But I wonder if the guy will just push people to Lync Online.

ewwhite

@MDMarra not at all..

Mark Henderson

@ewwhite Lync looks really really nice and I have my first deployment of it under-way (very slowly). But I'm not convinced it has the longevity to justify getting qualified in it for that salary

ewwhite

.and outside of the big enterprise, I just don't see the products @MDMarra works with gaining traction.

Mathias R. Jessen

20:48

@MarkHenderson I saw it last night and postponed answering but - wow, that escalated :D

Too bad nearly all answers missed the opportunity do discuss pros and cons. Forced https redirection is not necessarily a good thing

MDMarra

@MarkHenderson Longevity? It's been around since 2005?

ewwhite

@TheCleaner @MarkHenderson Looks like it's a consulting role.

Mark Henderson

@MathiasR.Jessen Yeah, I nearly bypassed it, but @wesley's 10k-in-a-year-challenge is making me pick low hanging fruit

@MDMarra Yeah and from what I can tell it's been a bit shit until quite recently.

TheCleaner

@MarkHenderson Lync is a good product NOW...I wouldn't have said that when it was LCS 2005. Back then Jabber and others were simply better. Heck MSN IM was better. But now the product is pretty solid and a good choice for MS shops especially.

Mark Henderson

I'm just very skeptical of it. I've been involved in a few VoIP/UC projects where the chosen solution has been retired/discontinued

MDMarra

20:50

@MarkHenderson OCS was ok. Lync was a big step up. Even if you don't use it for voice it's still in a lot of places

Lots of places have Lync deployed and dont use it for voice

Mark Henderson

@MDMarra I really like the idea of working, integrated screen and presentation sharing. Ever since Microsoft discontinued NetMeeting

ewwhite

Meanwhile I'm installing Shoretel for the next produce client...

Mark Henderson

But there are just other options now

TheCleaner

Only pissy thing I don't like about Lync Online...you can't do the major IMs federation like you could with on-prem. So no chatting direct using it with people on Yahoo IM for instance.

Mark Henderson

The Cloud hosted solutions are nice, but to do it in-house is a massive undertaking.

And I'm oh so very wary of fully hosted solutions. It often takes about 2 years of paying for the service for it to be cheaper to do it in-house

That's why I don't get why so many people jump on the AWS bandwagon for their in-house servers. Have you seen the price of a decent AWS VM?

TheCleaner

20:53

@MarkHenderson I swear SF voting like that only happens when someone from SO comes over and asks a question all the devs would love to know. After all...look at the usernames in that question...

ewwhite

@MarkHenderson people are coming BACK from AWS

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite I'm also seeing this

People just get bullied into using AWS because it's the cool thing to do

but AWS has a really limited scope where it's cost effective

ewwhite

@JoelESalas Perfect application of Openstack, right?

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite I don't follow

ewwhite

Because who need elasticity and can do it in-house are good targets for Openstack

private cloud... and cheap

Mark Henderson

20:58

@ewwhite Not fucking surprised

@TheCleaner Yeah. Catchy bait-and-switch title too

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Right, also hardly any applications have any need for elasticity

Ry Jones

@ewwhite we're trying to decide between GCE and AWS. I keep arguing for a server in a rack, but I get shot down

apparently they don't want physical servers no matter the cost

ewwhite

I like servers in racks... it's not that hard!

TheCleaner

I swear I don't remember before Outlook 2013 the ability to send an email to just the BCC line (to prevent reply alls). I'm pretty sure the older clients wouldn't let you do this.

ewwhite

but it's because I run servers in places where I shouldn't run servers...

Ry Jones

21:03

@TheCleaner I used to do that all the way back to office 2003

Evan Anderson

@MDMarra - I got a chuckle out of your comment re: having to write "samba DC". I take it you're not much for the non-Microsoft AD implementations? >smile<

MDMarra

hah

Well, you need to know the history. @MikeyB recently deployed 1,400 Samba 4 RODCs. So whenever he asks a Windows question now, I die a little.

HopelessN00b

@JoelESalas Well, unless you can't be bothered to plan anything. (Or maybe have a legitimate reason for not planning , like being a start up.)

Zypher

@MDMarra oh god ...

Evan Anderson

1,400? Yikes!

Ry Jones

21:06

@MDMarra uh holy cow sir

MDMarra

I was like .... dude there are issues of scale with 1,400 WINDOWS RODCs that you need to be careful of.

Nevermind 1,400 Samba ones

Evan Anderson

That's a fuckton.

A metric fuckton.

MDMarra

Yeah seriously

Magellan

dang.

Puppet the Flying Fsck out of that, I would.

HopelessN00b

@EvanAnderson No, a metric fuckton would be 1000. 1400 would have to be the imperial-fuckton.

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MDMarra

21:07

I'm imagining a sysvol journal wrap or something on 1,400 DCs. Then I'm picturing something similar but on samba

Evan Anderson

@HopelessN00b - Ha! Absolutely.

Magellan

Is this the deployment where all those remote sites are connected to HQ by an ISDN or something ridiculous like that?

MDMarra

@pauska wow, 4 goals for Liverpool

Evan Anderson

I haven't kept up with Samba4 enough. I am looking forward to the day when it is a reasonable replacement for AD, but the last time I looked that day was very far off.

ewwhite

@EvanAnderson you lie...

c'mon... Samba is always a compromise.

Evan Anderson

21:09

Egad... I wonder if there were even 1,400 Samba4 RoDCs in the world before he deployed those. I bet he more than doubled the population.

MDMarra

I wonder if there were 1,400 Windows RODCs before then

Magellan

@MarkHenderson It's up to 106 upvotes now. And isn't it awfully early there?

Evan Anderson

@MDMarra - Windows RoDCs...yeah... I can account for at least 150-200 of them at a place I did some work a couple years ago.

They were RoDC crazy!

TheCleaner

@RyJones really? I could swear it used to stop me if it didn't have at least one person in the TO field.

Evan Anderson

@ewwhite - I'd love to use Samba for small office File 'n Print, but I want Group Policy. Samba3 doesn't cut it.

MDMarra

21:11

With the Windows release cycle lately, it'll fall behind

You already can't do central access and claims-based file access with samba4

Look how long it took them to catch up to 2008-era

Magellan

@MDMarra And they wouldn't have gotten that far if the EU hadn't forced MS to share some of their docs.

Evan Anderson

@MDMarra - True re: the Windows release cycle. I think their ability to keep up, however, has been helped by the European anti-trust docs.

TheCleaner

Dost thou laugh at other's misfortune?

0

Q: is there any auto backup of mysql database?

Unfortunately I have lost some part of my data (a field of table) in a mysql database on a linux server and my backup is old I want to know is there any solution to recover that table?

mysql backup

Evan Anderson

@TheCleaner - I don't want to laugh, but it's hard not to.

Joel E Salas

It seems I have lost the data and there is no way back. — Ahmad 2 mins ago

I love how quietly morose this is

Evan Anderson

21:14

The EU anti-trust docs have been a great help to me answering Server Fault questions. If nothing else I love them for that.

Joel E Salas

@EvanAnderson How so

Magellan

@EvanAnderson I'll forward that word of thanks along. Friend of mine is one of the poor saps working on the docs team in Redmond. =)

I swear, I've worked for startups with more technical writers than MS has on-staff.

ewwhite

@EvanAnderson Just plotting my approach to take you out this year....

Evan Anderson

@JoelESalas - To be fair, I haven't used the docs that much for Server Fault. Having said that, though, those docs are the closest that I can get to authoritative descriptions of the behavior of their products (being that I don't have Windows source access). I feel like the protocol docs get me as close as I can to reading the source (which is really what I'd prefer).

TheCleaner

@EvanAnderson Just to kick his dog while he's down.

I want to know is there any solution to recover that table? Do you have an Eiditic memory and decent WPM typing skills? — TheCleaner 15 secs ago

ewwhite

21:17

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Q: The Foreman EC2 Auto Scaling Cleanup

OK, so I have setup in the user-data section of my launch configuration, a way for an instance to automatically register itself with Foreman, and put itself into the correct host group through API calls. Now with the ephemeral nature of auto scaling, is there a way in foreman to clean hosts if t...

amazon-ec2 autoscaling foreman

is that a question?

Magellan

@ewwhite Why not? I was pondering the exact situation the other day.

Trying to figure out a clean way to destroy containers and remove all the entries for them from all the various infrastructure systems without manual intervention and still maintain audit trail.

Mark Henderson

@Magellan 8.20am

Magellan

I hate dealing with all this half-automated stuff.

ewwhite

@Magellan you want it to ALL be automated

Magellan

@ewwhite Of course I do. But wanting isn't always getting when you can't call all the shots.

Evan Anderson

21:22

@ewwhite - Your approach to take me out this year needs only to involve me worrying about work and the baby more than Server Fault. You don't really need to do much beyond what you're already doing... >smile<

ewwhite

@EvanAnderson oh phew.... I was hoping to win a tshirt

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Or even a pizza party!

Evan Anderson

@ewwhite - You are getting uncomfortably close, though. >smile<

Okay, back to the salt mines...

HopelessN00b

On a different note, does anyone know a way to query eBay for its most expensive auctions? Or a better way to find ridiculously expensive, useless items online?

TheCleaner

@EvanAnderson - btw, you might have saw my update to my IQMS question, but I ended up going with FireDaemon to handle IQAlert as a Service instead of leaving the server logged in. Technically it does have an interactive session "open" because of the service, but you can't get to it unless you login first and then shadow it via Firedaemon.

MikeyB

21:32

@MDMarra I didn't actually deploy them yet. Just did a proof of concept for a customer who wants to do so. :D Details!

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b ebay.com/itm/An-Artifact-A-Gift-from-God-/…

Sun Fire 15K SunFire E15K F15K (a must see) Loaded Only $290,000

MDMarra

@MikeyB did you update your new question yet?

MikeyB

doing so now

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Wow that's an expensive space heater

Hah, a bunch of Ultra 25's with some sort of animal as the ebay listing photo

ebay.com/itm/…

pauska

@MDMarra yeah they're in good shape.. and those derbys usually turn out that way, loads of goals for one side

TheCleaner

21:38

@HopelessN00b ebay.com/sch/…

Michael Hampton

I'm in the wrong business. I really should be building appliances... Barracuda Message Archiver 1050 with 3 Yr Energize Update - BARRACUDA BMA1050a3 $216,551

Mark Henderson

Or shit, a Sun server with 2TB of RAM for 80k

ebay.com/itm/…

TheCleaner

ebay.com/itm/…

MDMarra

@MikeyB RE: your update - no clue. You're into samba voodoo. In a windows environment there's no extra steps

TheCleaner

check out the 2nd pic on that one ^^ lol

MikeyB

21:39

@MDMarra Can I use ADMT to migrate local user profile to domain profiles?

MDMarra

If the DNS servers are still valid that's all you need for windows

@MikeyB nope

TheCleaner

@MikeyB if that's all you are after just use ForensIT's user profile tool...free

MDMarra

@MikeyB but USMT can, I believe

MikeyB

@MDMarra if you're migrating from an NT-style domain, though, how do the remote workstations know to connect to the new realm?

The upgrade path is probably different...

MDMarra

In the AD world, there's a Windows 2000 mixed mode functional level that you use during the transition. Then you just decommission the NT stuff and raise it to native mode

TheCleaner

21:41

@HopelessN00b - buy this guy's patent for a flux capacitor and become crazy RICH! ebay.com/itm/…

MDMarra

I think you're into something samba-specific now

MikeyB

@MDMarra Right, so in my case I skipped the mixed mode. Hmm.

MDMarra

But clients themselves shouldn't care, AFAIK

@Cole may be a good resource here, since we're talking NT :)

MikeyB

@MDMarra From the clients point of view, all of a sudden they can't find their DC. Ugh... I wonder if we had a static netbios entry in their hosts file to point it at the PDC's IP at the main site?

MDMarra

Maybe?

really you don't need NETBIOS though.

So if you did that could bone it up

MikeyB

21:44

Well not anymore. :D

MDMarra

as long as a domain joined client can find the domains _msdcs zone, that should be all that matters

thought my NT4 domain knowledge is thin. I was like 7 when it came out

MikeyB

@MDMarra or lmhosts...

MDMarra

Oh god

or you're running WINS somewhere and forgot :)

MikeyB

@MDMarra oh yeah as soon as I say "join the ad.mdmarra.local" the machines are all like "OH! OKAY!"

MDMarra

But in your upgrade, the domain SID and the machine SIDS never changed?

MikeyB

21:47

@MDMarra correct. Hosts at the main site didn't need any changes.

pauska

I don't get it

suddenly everything is like 800x600 on my retina macbook

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MDMarra

What error do you get?

@pauska Viking mode: engage

MikeyB

@MDMarra "cannot find the domain controller" which is reasonable since it has no idea WHERE to look.

Was wondering if there's a dhcp-specific option to say "your AD realm is this" to give 'em a hint.

MDMarra

It should use DNS. You've got something fucked up somewhere

Something superseding DNS or fucking it up like a search suffix

TheCleaner

@MDMarra shut it. ;)

pauska

21:49

the best for screen setting is suddenly HUGE

MikeyB

@MDMarra It does use DNS after it realizes that it should. But it's still thinking NT4.

pauska

waddafuck

MikeyB

@MDMarra Yeah default search domain is office.custname.com, not ad.custname.com. Maybe that'll work.

MDMarra

Your clients just need to find _msdcs.ad.custname.com.

Anything above and beyond that is whacky

TheCleaner

Why do you state you remove them from the oldnetbiosname to newadrealmname? Are they not the same?

Wouldn't logging in and then pinging the domain return whether or not it can find a DC?

MDMarra

21:57

@MikeyB how is DNS configured? Is there a local non-DC resolver at each site?

Were those local resolvers perhaps configured with conditional forwarders to things that dont exist any more

MikeyB

@MDMarra DNS is working fine, but the clients in NT4 domains don't use DNS.

Shit dude, you were 7 :D

MDMarra

:)

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